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#1 Sep 26 2010 at 3:45 PM Rating: Decent
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I was wondering if anyone knew how to fix this problem? Id like to switch between my game and browser but evertime I try the Games shuts down, any help would be great.
#2 Sep 26 2010 at 3:46 PM Rating: Decent
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stop using Cntrl.

It's just Alt+Tab.
#3 Sep 26 2010 at 3:52 PM Rating: Decent
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Sorry I ment alt tab
#4 Sep 26 2010 at 3:52 PM Rating: Good
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Use windowed mode.
#5 Sep 26 2010 at 3:54 PM Rating: Decent
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It reads, "Unable to detect directX device". "The preogram has shut down", "Please restart FFXIV"
#6 Sep 26 2010 at 3:54 PM Rating: Decent
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Are you playing windowed or full screen? I'm playing 1900x1280, but windowed, and don't seem to crash when I switch out using alt+tab.

I've tried running full screen, but for some reason I only see black after the Square Enix splashscreen.
#7 Sep 26 2010 at 3:55 PM Rating: Decent
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Windowed Mode works but I like full screen. Anyone else having this problem or knows how to fix it.
#8 Sep 26 2010 at 3:55 PM Rating: Good
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This happens to everyone. If you're running the game in full screen, you can't alt+tab w/o crashing the game unfortunately.
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#9 Sep 26 2010 at 3:56 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm using full screen. Windowed works fine but not full screen.
#10 Sep 26 2010 at 3:57 PM Rating: Decent
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Ahh thats sucks to hear, thanks I'm surprised I havent seen this thread come up.
#11 Sep 26 2010 at 3:57 PM Rating: Decent
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It was this way in XI. This has come up before, but not a lot, because most XI players kind of expected this.

Edited, Sep 26th 2010 5:58pm by Vawn43
#12 Sep 26 2010 at 6:40 PM Rating: Good
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Well.. To be honest, I'm somewhat relieved to read that this is intentional..
Honestly, capturing and releasing a DirectX device is something I learned in my first week of DirectX .NET programming.

If Square Enix can't do something so basic as capturing and releasing a DirectX device which takes a whole 2 lines of code, my confidence in the whole game would have completely ruined..

I realize now that this is completely intentional.. No doubt about it.. Windows is taking the DirectX device away from the game and the game is an incorrectly programmed DirectX application according to all Microsoft DirectX documentation. It continues to use the DirectX device anyway without context and it just crashes. Though it would have been *nice* if SE had properly caught the exception and ended the game gracefully (logged user out) instead of using the exception to terminate the game client side..

It appears that Alt+Tab crashing in this manner leaves your character still connected to the server and idle. You have to log in again (which will give an error) and then properly log out for your character to leave the world.
Meh anyway you slice it, any DirectX programmer would tell you that's some ridiculously sloppy programming..

But again, if people say it's intentional as part of their anti-cheat/hack then that makes a lot more sense. Certainly isn't going to stop the more sophisticated cheats/hacks that use screen grabbers and packet sniffing to get a handle on game context... But it will eliminate opportunity hacks where the temptation to do it is high and the effort to get it done is low. So SE is basically making it so if you write a hack, you need to put a bit more thought into it rather than just designing it out on a napkin during dinner.

DirectX is and always has been designed by Microsoft to be as flexible as possible which makes it very hackable.. And it's not a bug, it's a "feature" of DirectX.

I can think of some other reasons to end the game while alt+tabbing out.. Such as preventing users from wasting server resources when they aren't actually playing.

Edited, Sep 26th 2010 8:58pm by Sidicas
#13 Sep 26 2010 at 8:11 PM Rating: Good
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Sidicas wrote:
But again, if people say it's intentional as part of their anti-cheat/hack then that makes a lot more sense... I can think of some other reasons to end the game while alt+tabbing out.. Such as preventing users from wasting server resources when they aren't actually playing.


It's obviously not an anti-hack measure, because it only occurs in fullscreen mode, not in windowed mode - which highlights that it's merely sloppy coding, because alt-tabbing from fullscreen causes software to lose the rendering context, but alt-tabbing from a window doesn't. And they would have to know from their experience that any attempt at subverting functional alt-tabbing would eventually be worked around anyway.
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