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#1 Sep 26 2010 at 11:21 PM Rating: Good
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My system Specs:

Processor: i7 950

motherboard: asus p6x58d-e

ram: DDR3 HyperX kingston triple channel 6gb 2000mhz

graphics card: EVGA GTX 480

OS: WIndows 7 pro 64bit

I have everything on top settings and resolution at 1600x1200 on Final Fantasy 14 and i still get some frame skipping, are there some driver updates I can use to help increase performance? This is a brand new PC, built 2 days ago.

Or, am I expecting too much and have to go SLI gtx 480?

thanks for your help :)
#2 Sep 26 2010 at 11:28 PM Rating: Good
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HI....I'm running a GTX480 and I do not have any skipping. I'm running the latest beta drivers, but I had no problem with the latest that were not beta. I don't think the game is really optimized for SLI at the present time, but not sure. I'm not sure what your problem could be.
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#3 Sep 27 2010 at 12:08 AM Rating: Good
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Odd, there must be something i am missing... all i did was download the latest driver from nvidia for my graphics card, i didn't install the evga cd that came with it
#4 Sep 27 2010 at 1:17 AM Rating: Good
Hello,

I have a similar setup to yours.

Processor: Intel Core i7 950(stock for the time being)
Motherboard: ASUS P6X58-E Motherboard
RAM: G.Skill PI Series 6GB (1.5V, 1600 MHz)
GPU: MSI GTX 480 (stock)
OS: Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
HD: Western Digital Caviar Black 750 GB

I run with everything maxed except for Ambient Occlusion. My resolution is 1680x1050 with Vsync enabled through Nvidia control panel. I run in windowed mode if it makes a difference.

I also experience occasional stuttering mostly in the cities. I have MSI Afterburner's FPS display on all the time; the lowest I've seen it drop is the high teens but it is usually around 30 fps. Outdoors I am usually pegged at 60 fps unless I'm near a camp. I expect that performance will improve as drivers mature. Eventually I'll try overclocking a bit to see if that helps.

If you plan on running 2 (or more) GTX 480s in SLI make sure your power supply is up to the task!

-Hansel
#5 Sep 27 2010 at 1:21 AM Rating: Good
Is it tearing, or actual stuttering? If it's just tearing, then enable some Vsync and see if it helps.
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#6 Sep 27 2010 at 1:43 AM Rating: Decent
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Yeah something sounds amiss on the driver. Your processor is more than good, gtx 480 should have absolutely no problem, and your ram vs a normal ram is 0 difference on almost anything, ffxiv included.
#7 Sep 27 2010 at 2:14 AM Rating: Default
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Sadly, its because you vid card is a year old...nothing you can do

Upgrade to at least an ATI 5870... yes ATI...they are light years ahead if nVidia now GTX 480 is an OLD card now
#8 Sep 27 2010 at 2:53 AM Rating: Decent
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Dkay wrote:
Sadly, its because you vid card is a year old...nothing you can do

Upgrade to at least an ATI 5870... yes ATI...they are light years ahead if nVidia now GTX 480 is an OLD card now

480 was released after the 5870... and it's not even a year old.

Edited, Sep 27th 2010 4:54am by jakarai

Edited, Sep 27th 2010 4:54am by jakarai
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#9 Sep 27 2010 at 3:18 AM Rating: Default
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OLD tech, not calendar... benchtest show its not very good

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/284842-33-5870-5850



Edited, Sep 27th 2010 2:32am by Dkay
#10 Sep 27 2010 at 3:58 AM Rating: Decent
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Just cause you have a GTX 480, doesn't mean it can handle ambient occlusion. If you are one of those people who just check everything and put everything on high without knowing what they are doing forget about it. Set multisampling to 4, or 2ms if needed, beyond 4 has diminishing returns. Check OFF Ambient Occlusion (This is usually the main problem). Enable Hardware Mouse, and lastly Draw Distance... basically, the game tries to copy real life where it makes farther things blurry and closer things sharp, that's draw distance in a nutshell. Honestly though, do you really not want to see what is off in the distance in a game like FF14?

Ambient occlusion is the same, it creates like a super shadow like real life putting shadows on everything, that requires a serious gfx to run, it almost cuts your frame rate in half with it in. If after all these your game still lags, it is definitely your rig.
#11 Sep 27 2010 at 4:07 AM Rating: Good
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Thanks all for the replies. :) I'm unsure how to enable vsync..

I used ATI before this, the catalyst display is so much better. Not used to the nvidia control panel
#12 Sep 27 2010 at 4:12 AM Rating: Good
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Dkay wrote:
Sadly, its because you vid card is a year old...nothing you can do

Upgrade to at least an ATI 5870... yes ATI...they are light years ahead if nVidia now GTX 480 is an OLD card now


Im sorry this is just not true. The GTX 480 is newer and benchmarks considerably higher than the 5870. I originally designed my new rig with 2 5870's then changed it when i saw the difference in benchmark scores and went for 2 GTX480's.

(THe other consideration is that SLI uses up to 70-80% of the second cards power, crossfire uses about 20%)
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#13 Sep 27 2010 at 4:17 AM Rating: Good
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I would not say 7% is "considerably" higher

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The 480 is 7% faster at max resolution. 7% for 50% more power and 20% more heat. It's pathetic, probably the worst card since the 2900XT, and the 470 is barely better.
#14 Sep 27 2010 at 4:18 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm running an i7 950 with 6b on Win7 64 ultimate (Only went with Ultimate over Pro for language pack) and 2x gtx 470.

With SLI disabled on 1 470 I can run 4xMSA with everything enabled and shadows on high (not highest) on windowed at 1680x1050 no problems. I haven't done a FPS check yet but I would estimate between 25 and 40 FPS depending. A good check for me is the sit and spin method (rotate camera to check for skipping).

With SLI enabled I can run full max settings at 1920x1200 no problems (ie consistant 40-50 fps estimated).

I don't have vsync enabled on either setting and there's no tearing just minor skipping on the first setting in an area with loads going on.

Just saying it shouldn't be your card unless you've tried to force some settings via nvidia controll panel. You might want to lower the prebuffered frames down to 1 or 0 and see if that helps (via control panel under the profiles tab)?
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#15 Sep 27 2010 at 4:24 AM Rating: Decent
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Dkay wrote:
I would not say 7% is "considerably" higher

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The 480 is 7% faster at max resolution. 7% for 50% more power and 20% more heat. It's pathetic, probably the worst card since the 2900XT, and the 470 is barely better.


The quote is just not right. Look at benchmarks. The GTX480 is a considerably better card (a generation ahead) of the 5870. You might mean the 5970 which starts to get close but in SLI there is no comparison between these cards.

Honestly, check the benchmarks. ITs not 7%, its more like 30%!
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#16 Sep 27 2010 at 4:37 AM Rating: Default
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Until developers take advantage of hardware accelerated tessellation however, the 5870 still gives a GTX 480 incredible competition for being over six months old.


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So two months later, both AMD and Nvidia have delivered new drivers for their current generation GPUs and very little has changed. The GeForce GTX 480 is still very fast, on the expensive side, and very power hungry. The Radeon HD 5870 on the other hand is almost as fast, it's a better value per dollar, and much more fuel efficient. For those reasons alone the Radeon HD 5870 still gets our seal of approval.


enough said, the experts spoke

Edited, Sep 27th 2010 3:44am by Dkay
#17 Sep 27 2010 at 4:39 AM Rating: Good
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Well, I have a question.

I'm running on a NIVIDA 9800M GTS Graphics card and a Intel Core 2 Duo Processor (4 GB).

For me, I'm playing at 1280x720 window size, 4x MSAA, Buffer Size Two-thirds window size with Ambient Occlusion and Depth of Field off. Everything else besides Texture Filtering is set to low.

At the moment, the game run very smoothly, even in heavy populated areas. However, every maybe 15-20 mins or so, the game tends to slow down, giving me horrible frame skipping. At this time, lag and input commands are horrible and NPCs and PCs take forever to appear. This last for about maybe 2-3 mins before returning to its smooth and perfect speed.

I have no idea if its my system, connection or the server. This even happened to me on a boat, crafting, where I was by myself and only 1 NPC... NOTHING ELSE!

I've been messing with Graphics and all kinds of options and I can't seem to figure out why this is happening. Has anyone else run into this problem or knows any solutions?

I'm sure I know whats gonna happen, I'll have to upgrade. lol
#18 Sep 27 2010 at 4:51 AM Rating: Default
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its the interface matching of MB to Video card. your MB does not "talk" to vid card. I'm guessing they are different manufacturers.

If you are gonna upgrade I suggesst this MB with the MSI 5870 Lightning

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130297&cm_re=msi_motherboards_amd-_-13-130-297-_-Product

they "talk" to each other and the MB is designed to interface video

I never get any lag whatsoever anywhere in any situation so far

that MB
that Vid Card
8 Mgb RAM
Phenom II x6
120 SSD

Edited, Sep 27th 2010 3:55am by Dkay
#19 Sep 27 2010 at 5:38 AM Rating: Decent
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Dkay wrote:
its the interface matching of MB to Video card. your MB does not "talk" to vid card. I'm guessing they are different manufacturers.


lolwut?

Seriously?

Mix matching brands doesn't matter these days, the only configuration issues PC builders have to worry about is matching RAM models to their MoBo to ensure they can scale properly. Every major MoBo manufacturer has a list of supported brands and sku's of RAM. NO MoBo manufacturer has a list of supported GPU vendors.

The only thing is with AMD it's harder to find true SLI support and easier to find Crossfire support and the opposite with Intel boards. For the majority of the population who will only be using a single GPU it doesn't matter.
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