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#1 Sep 27 2010 at 11:19 AM Rating: Default
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Hello,

I bought a laptop a few months ago with wicked specs and this game runs very poorly. I have a buddy pass, my g/f bought the collector's ed. From the start, it's edgy, the game runs 1-2 seconds than skips ahead to catch itself. I've tried lowering most settings with no improvement. When talking to the starter quest chick, that room took about 3 minutes to load all the NPC's. While running, my character takes 1-2 steps and then the screen pauses for a split second and it catches itself. I feel like there's a strobe light effect going on.

Is this a flaw in the game they are planning on fixing and is everybody playing through these terrible conditions? I watched my g/f play the beta and it wasn't this bad. Yesterday trying to play the game was agonizing at how slow it went. Her computer is even more maxed out with specs than mine and hers doesn't run fluidly. We have other PC games that run flawlessly. So why does this new game suck so bad?
#2 Sep 27 2010 at 11:23 AM Rating: Decent
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With no actual information on what "wicked specs" you bought, we cannot be of much help.

To answer what I can, the game runs very smooth for me @ 2560x1600. If an area is crowded it takes a few seconds to load everyone, but I have no jitters and lagging behind.
#3 Sep 27 2010 at 11:24 AM Rating: Decent
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Yeah you should post your laptop specs.
#4 Sep 27 2010 at 11:25 AM Rating: Good
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Also, if you're playing on WiFi, you could be experiencing network lag that would cause the "studder" where everything seems to pause, and then quickly catch up after a momentary standstill.
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#5 Sep 27 2010 at 11:26 AM Rating: Good
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TrooperCX3 wrote:
laptop ... with wicked specs. Her computer is even more maxed out with specs than mine


Does that make hers awesomely wicked maxed specs?

Seriously tho, to run this game smooth, you need kickin awesome wicked maxed specs. Hopefully that helps.
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#6 Sep 27 2010 at 11:30 AM Rating: Decent
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Are you from Boston or something?

You need to actually detail exactly what your laptop has or this thread is going to be a complete waste.
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#7 Sep 27 2010 at 11:30 AM Rating: Default
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I dont know if I trust anyone who says "wicked specs" to actually know much about computers. Very few laptops can run this game smoothly I apologize you may have wasted your money. Look at it this way I spent 1500 to build a pc to play this game so really you're saving cash in the long run.
#8 Sep 27 2010 at 11:32 AM Rating: Default
Sounds like an internet connection issue. I wonder what your Download and upload speeds are.
#9 Sep 27 2010 at 11:53 AM Rating: Default
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My g/f is running a gaming laptop, i'll link her specs as soon as she texts me the link. She bought the computer exclusively for this game and it runs like **** on her comp.

We are running wifi but as she grinds out her time running each brutally slow step, I can play other internet games with no latency. If she is the only connection to the modem, it is still the case. we typically run at S:120 R:200. Very similar to FF11 which we recently re-installed a month or so ago to get in the FF mood. FF11 ran perfectly, it was a lot of fun.

When I log on to FF14 it runs painfully slow as i explained before. It seems like server lag because there's about a 2-3 second delay when using menus and in combat. Since we have experience no such lag in any other games/youtube/netflix, we wonder what is going on. hoping for a fix?
#10 Sep 27 2010 at 11:55 AM Rating: Good
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Well, without specs for the Laptop, there's not much that can be said. I can say that aside from server downtime, I have had no connection issues whatsoever. In fact, considering it's the first week the games been active on a live-basis...server uptime has been, well, fantastic and stable for the most part.
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#11 Sep 27 2010 at 11:58 AM Rating: Decent
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TrooperCX3 wrote:
My g/f is running a gaming laptop, i'll link her specs as soon as she texts me the link. She bought the computer exclusively for this game and it runs like sh*t on her comp.

We are running wifi but as she grinds out her time running each brutally slow step, I can play other internet games with no latency. If she is the only connection to the modem, it is still the case. we typically run at S:120 R:200. Very similar to FF11 which we recently re-installed a month or so ago to get in the FF mood. FF11 ran perfectly, it was a lot of fun.

When I log on to FF14 it runs painfully slow as i explained before. It seems like server lag because there's about a 2-3 second delay when using menus and in combat. Since we have experience no such lag in any other games/youtube/netflix, we wonder what is going on. hoping for a fix?
I see no specs for your laptop anywhere in this response.
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#12 Sep 27 2010 at 11:59 AM Rating: Decent
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So, what are "your" system spec's?

Here is what we can tell you.

The menu's sometimes will take a few seconds to come up, especially crafting. Now when I log in at 5am before work it's much much better, so this gives me hope that it's a lot to do with how congested an area or the server is.

The game does not lag, jump around, hiccup or make me think I am in a rave with strobe effects. If you are having issues beyond a few seconds on your menu's lagging, the issue is going to be pc or internet related depending.

Do you happen to know what FPS you get while in game? You can download fraps for free and it will display.



Edited, Sep 27th 2010 1:59pm by crushgroove
#13 Sep 27 2010 at 12:05 PM Rating: Decent
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Aighty,

i7 Quadcore 1.6ghz, 8GB DDR3 memory, 1 TB harddrive, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5870

can you say, Double You Tea Eff?
#14 Sep 27 2010 at 12:09 PM Rating: Decent
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TrooperCX3 wrote:
Aighty,

i7 Quadcore 1.6ghz, 8GB DDR3 memory, 1 TB harddrive, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5870

can you say, Double You Tea Eff?


An i7 running at 1.6GHz? Also, what OS are you running and are your drivers up to date from the latest stable build from your OEM?
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loyaltrekie wrote:
TrooperCX3 wrote:
Aighty,

i7 Quadcore 1.6ghz, 8GB DDR3 memory, 1 TB harddrive, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5870

can you say, Double You Tea Eff?


An i7 running at 1.6GHz? Also, what OS are you running and are your drivers up to date from the latest stable build from your OEM?


Its a mobile version... a 720qm I believe. I have one in my Dell XPS 16 laptop. In fact I think I have the same GPU. I worder if he has the same laptop?

Only mine is Double You Tea Eff x2 because I put an OCZ Vertex2 SSD in it XD.

I got 2500 score on ffxiv benchmark. Good not great.
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#16 Sep 27 2010 at 12:39 PM Rating: Decent
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Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Edition

Yes, driver's are up to date.

The beta ran great, smooth and lag free. Maybe a slight lag during peak hours which was to be expected. We are scratching our heads why this sucks.

I can understand if certain menus take 10 seconds to load up if there's a lot to load, but waiting 3 minutes for a room full of NPC's is disappointing.
#17 Sep 27 2010 at 12:44 PM Rating: Good
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That's quite the quandry. Since it did run well in beta but not now is puzzling and would imply that something has changed.

Not that this helps, but it's always been my understanding that laptops aren't the greatest machines for gaming.

I wonder if your CPU could be a bottleneck, or how the mobile radeon compares to the full fledged version (I have the regular 5870 in my tower, and its very smooth for me.)
#18 Sep 27 2010 at 12:50 PM Rating: Good
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Video settings from Beta did not carry over to a fresh CE install, so I would make sure you didn't somehow get max settings in your config (ambient occlusion, depth of field, etc). Can check these in the Start->Square Enix->FFXIV Config.
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#19 Sep 27 2010 at 12:53 PM Rating: Decent
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I have the same laptop, and it runs fine for me, relatively speaking. Is your atiumdag.dll version 8.14.10.775? (should be in c:\windows\syswow64



Edited, Sep 27th 2010 1:54pm by bsphil
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#20 Sep 27 2010 at 1:10 PM Rating: Decent
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I will check the Atiu file. To be honest, it ran at 5 FPS until we unlicked one of the settings in the config, i can't remember which and i'm not next to the computer now. But the other settings, regardless of being full blast or low, haven't changed much. We've left the one option off ever since. I will post later if the file update is needed.
#21 Sep 27 2010 at 1:25 PM Rating: Good
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I suggest uninstall your video card drivers completely and then re-install a full ATI catalyst package.

Be sure you don't still have any torrent applications open either. check your system tray and close all un-needed programs as well.
#22 Sep 27 2010 at 1:44 PM Rating: Good
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I run those specs and the game runs great.


Get the 10.8 drivers and make sure you don't have it running some sort of power save mode.
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#23 Sep 27 2010 at 2:49 PM Rating: Decent
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Nyu wrote:
make sure you don't have it running some sort of power save mode.
This is a very good point. Use something like MSI Afterburner or GPU-Z to watch your GPU core clock speeds. They should be running at 700 mhz while in-game.
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#24 Sep 27 2010 at 3:12 PM Rating: Decent
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I also suggest running in windowed with task manager open in the background to check your CPU usage. If your core(s) never reach 100% your cpu is probably fine and its either a GPU issue or simply server lag.
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#25 Sep 27 2010 at 3:15 PM Rating: Good
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I have zero problems running the game minus server side lag.

I have the game at max setting minus the occlusion and depth setting

my AA is set to 4x and i am thinking of upping it.

I have a intel I5 quad core stock 2.0 ghz and oc'd that to 2.4
and both my 260's are oc'd to stock 280M spec.

Graphically the game runs wonderfully, no slowdown or artifacts.

I do have an alienware system and know i coulda bought 2 solid rigs for the price of
the current system, but I need the mobility so it works for me.

However in ur case i would suggest first look at the stock game setting
also check all background apps and close them off.

you have sufficient memory but other apps could be bottle necking ur cpu.

otherwise maybe a re-format of windows the HDD to clean things up and a fresh install of the xiv client?
#26 Sep 27 2010 at 3:17 PM Rating: Good
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What settings are you running at? I'm sure you cant run double buffer, or with ambient occlusion or depth of field enabled.
#27 Sep 27 2010 at 3:32 PM Rating: Decent
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I have the same problem, but im running on a bootcamped Imac. Im also using wifi could that be the problem?
#28 Sep 27 2010 at 3:34 PM Rating: Decent
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STeven92 wrote:
I have the same problem, but im running on a bootcamped Imac. Im also using wifi could that be the problem?
What are the imac specs? I highly doubt a wifi connection is the problem. Wireless connections have come a long way since their inception, and you can get near the same performance with a wireless connection as you would with a wired one.
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#29 Sep 27 2010 at 3:59 PM Rating: Good
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What settings are you running at? I'm sure you cant run double buffer, or with ambient occlusion or depth of field enabled.


I have the double buffer going but no occlusion and depth of field. Otherwise I am running
very smoothly at 720P and it looks stunning.

in outside world i get 50-60 fps on fraps

around aetheryte i get about 35-60 fps

and in cities or really busy aethers like bearded rock it drops to under 20 every now
and again.


I am running SLI with up to date drivers . . . and no other apps in the background.

But the game is running very smooth for me aside for the server side lag hickups

#30 Sep 27 2010 at 9:09 PM Rating: Decent
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My game does not run at all but i saw that your atiumd64.dll has to be updated to the newer one and mines is at 8.14.10.735 How can i upgrade this?
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Speeral wrote:
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What settings are you running at? I'm sure you cant run double buffer, or with ambient occlusion or depth of field enabled.


I have the double buffer going but no occlusion and depth of field. Otherwise I am running
very smoothly at 720P and it looks stunning.

in outside world i get 50-60 fps on fraps

around aetheryte i get about 35-60 fps

and in cities or really busy aethers like bearded rock it drops to under 20 every now
and again.


I am running SLI with up to date drivers . . . and no other apps in the background.

But the game is running very smooth for me aside for the server side lag hickups



That's nice lol but it wasn't directed at you :P lol
#32 Sep 27 2010 at 9:26 PM Rating: Decent
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Why would you run double buffer?
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#33 Sep 27 2010 at 9:43 PM Rating: Good
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Double buffer really does cause a lot of extra load on your GFX card.
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