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#1 Sep 27 2010 at 11:34 AM Rating: Good
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Here is my system

Mobo: Asus M2N-E (non sli) Socket AM2+ (Bios flashed with most recent update)
CPU: Athelon X2 6000 3.0 Ghz (currently set at 3% OC)
Memory 6 GB
OS: Win 7 (64-bit)
GPU EVGA Geforce 9500 GT 1gb
PSU Thermaltake 430 W

The game is playable, but low framerate. Obviously I need a new GPU. However I am also wondering if going to quad core CPU would also be advisable. Don't really want to build a new system (and be forced to buy a new copy of windows) just looking for the lowest cost way to get a little more out of what I have.

Edited, Sep 27th 2010 2:09pm by Addyyuna
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#2 Sep 27 2010 at 11:38 AM Rating: Good
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Quad-core adds a significant boost. You would also benefit greatly from a new video card as well. There's a lot of good options available, I would start with a video card. Options range from ATI HD 5700 and up series and Nvidia's Fermi line (450 GTS, 460/465/470 GTX). The 5770's perform better than the 450 GTS cards, and they have a great price point (less than $150). I run two 5770's in Crossfire with a Phenom II X4 and the game runs very smooth on max settings.

The best you can do for a Quad-Core on an AM2+ socket is the Phenom X4 line. Runs around $75 OEM and it will provide a boost in performance, but it's no Phenom II X4.

Edited, Sep 27th 2010 1:41pm by Ryneguy
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#3 Sep 27 2010 at 11:40 AM Rating: Good
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First question... the only GTX card in the 9000 series is the 9800. Is that what you have or do you have a 9500GT? Huge difference between the two.
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#4 Sep 27 2010 at 11:46 AM Rating: Good
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You would have to check your MOBO's compatibility for the newer quads. I have a older AM2+ Gigabyte model that can run some AM3 procs, so check that first. Honesty you may just need a new video card.

A GTX 460 would be a good. Though you may have to upgrade your PSU to 500w+.

In regards to your copy of Windows 7 if you have the OEM and want to upgrade your MOBO, then yeah you would have to buy another copy, however I've read and heard of stories that this may not be the case.

In any case total cost would be around $300-$500 for a decent upgrade.
#5 Sep 27 2010 at 11:54 AM Rating: Decent
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My CPU is Athlon II X4 620, the game is running fine at low-mid setting, just a little lag in town (according from my OB experience), so if your CPU is lower than mine, I would expect more lag in crowded area.

If you're going to upgrade your CPU, you'll also need to upgrade your motherboard, and possibly memory too. When you upgrade your video card, you'll also need to upgrade your power supply too.

As for video card upgrade, you may wanna go with Radeon HD 5770 if you're on budget. That card is about $130.

As for your win7, you can keep your current hard drive so you have to do anything. Even if you decided to get a new hard drive, you can still call microsoft and tell them you're installing your win7 on a new computer, and they'll give you a new product key.

Edited, Sep 27th 2010 1:56pm by dunlag
#6 Sep 27 2010 at 12:33 PM Rating: Good
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First question... the only GTX card in the 9000 series is the 9800. Is that what you have or do you have a 9500GT? Huge difference between the two


Yes, that is correct. 9500 gt

Hmm. looks like the HD 5770 would be a good choice. As for CPU upgrades, according to Asus I can drop a 3 Ghz Athelon II X4. Could also drop in a Phenom II with some sort of modification.
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#7 Sep 27 2010 at 12:40 PM Rating: Decent
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Have you tried changing the priority of the process from 'Low' to 'Normal'? This has increased performance on some friends' machines.

If you're confused..

Open task manager (Ctrl+Alt+Delete > Task Manager)
Find ffxiv process
Right click > Priority
Click 'Normal'
#8 Sep 27 2010 at 1:12 PM Rating: Good
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thx does help slightly
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#9 Sep 27 2010 at 2:45 PM Rating: Decent
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Addyyuna wrote:
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First question... the only GTX card in the 9000 series is the 9800. Is that what you have or do you have a 9500GT? Huge difference between the two


Yes, that is correct. 9500 gt

Hmm. looks like the HD 5770 would be a good choice. As for CPU upgrades, according to Asus I can drop a 3 Ghz Athelon II X4. Could also drop in a Phenom II with some sort of modification.


Is this your board?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131022R&cm_re=asus_M2N-E-_-13-131-022R-_-Product

If so, then according to the detail, it doesn't support any AM3 socket, but even if it does, Athlon II X4 CPU are usually 4000MHz, so that board would be a bottleneck of the CPU. Also, according to your first post, you said you had 6GB memory, so I'm guessing your set up is 2GB X3 right? Your board is a dual channel board, so when you upgrade your board, you would want to add 2 sticks at a time.
#10 Sep 27 2010 at 2:54 PM Rating: Decent
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superaga wrote:
Have you tried changing the priority of the process from 'Low' to 'Normal'? This has increased performance on some friends' machines.

If you're confused..

Open task manager (Ctrl+Alt+Delete > Task Manager)
Find ffxiv process
Right click > Priority
Click 'Normal'
Two things:

1) Ctrl+Shift+Esc is a much simpler way to get to the task manager.

2) Doesn't the game still automatically adjust the priority back to Low?

dunlag wrote:
Also, according to your first post, you said you had 6GB memory, so I'm guessing your set up is 2GB X3 right? Your board is a dual channel board, so when you upgrade your board, you would want to add 2 sticks at a time.
Or 2GB+2GB and 1GB+1GB.

Edited, Sep 27th 2010 3:55pm by bsphil
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#11 Sep 27 2010 at 6:56 PM Rating: Good
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Yes, I built it with a pair of 1 gb sticks and added a pair of 2 gb later on. Maximum memory 8 gb. I upgraded the BIOS to ver 5001 released this year for added compatibility. What I was thinking of was changing the CPU to the 3 GHZ X4 Athelon II. Its in the compatibility list from ASUS. Apparently, its one of the few newer ones that isn't listed as requiring Mobo mod. Just wondering if it would be worth the effort.
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#12 Sep 27 2010 at 7:34 PM Rating: Decent
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Addyyuna wrote:
Yes, I built it with a pair of 1 gb sticks and added a pair of 2 gb later on. Maximum memory 8 gb. I upgraded the BIOS to ver 5001 released this year for added compatibility. What I was thinking of was changing the CPU to the 3 GHZ X4 Athelon II. Its in the compatibility list from ASUS. Apparently, its one of the few newer ones that isn't listed as requiring Mobo mod. Just wondering if it would be worth the effort.


I just checked the Asus website about your board, and it did listed out some of the Athlon IIX4 (such as 640) as a supported CPU. However, if you really go for the Athlon IIX4 640, then your board will bottleneck the CPU because the board's FSB is only 2000 MT, and the CPU has a 4000 MT FSB...so it still seems not a good idea to do that.
#13 Sep 27 2010 at 8:32 PM Rating: Good
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Ok thank you. Guess I will settle for new video card for now.
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