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#1 Sep 27 2010 at 11:55 AM Rating: Good
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I'm a keyboard/mouse pc player by heart.

I must say however, after hooking up my xbox 360 controller it made the game so different. I still use my keyboard/mouse for combat, but crafting, running around, harvesting, man is the controller sweet. So nice to sit back and play, camera movement is better, going through menu's seems faster and easier.

If you are one like me and you had not tried this game out with a controller, do it!
#2 Sep 27 2010 at 12:00 PM Rating: Good
Do you need to do anything special to get this to work? Could someone give me a step by step for getting this up and running? I already have a wireless that I can plug in using a USB will that work?

Edited, Sep 27th 2010 2:00pm by toohotforu
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#3 Sep 27 2010 at 12:00 PM Rating: Default
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crushgroove wrote:
I'm a keyboard/mouse pc player by heart.

I must say however, after hooking up my xbox 360 controller it made the game so different. I still use my keyboard/mouse for combat, but crafting, running around, harvesting, man is the controller sweet. So nice to sit back and play, camera movement is better, going through menu's seems faster and easier.

If you are one like me and you had not tried this game out with a controller, do it!



I agree, but I refuse to use mine. Its a PC game, they need to implement the pc/kb more, or they will lose many customers.
#4 Sep 27 2010 at 12:00 PM Rating: Default
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The One and Only toohotforu wrote:
Do you need to do anything special to get this to work? Could someone give me a step by step for getting this up and running? I already have a wireless that I can plug in using a USB will that work?

Edited, Sep 27th 2010 2:00pm by toohotforu



I forget what its called, but its a device you plug in your usb specifically for the controller. I think you have to buy them as a package now.
#5 Sep 27 2010 at 12:01 PM Rating: Decent
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I also always played with mouse and keyboard ... but when attempting beta with this game, I found it LOADS easier to just use a controller.
#6 Sep 27 2010 at 12:03 PM Rating: Decent
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I had a usb microsoft 360 controller laying around.

They used to make wireless adaptors, but discontinued them. You may be able to find one somewhere.

I'd just go buy a wired, think they are $12~ used, just make sure to get a MS brand one for driver support in windows.

Outside of that, you just plug it in. Then go into the FFXIV config, set controller mapping, done.
#7 Sep 27 2010 at 12:06 PM Rating: Decent
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360 controller, nothing needed with windows. Plug in and play
PS3 controller, a bit of a hassle with windows

Logitech ramblepad 2, cheap and perfect if you don't have either of the console controllers, but IMO the logitech option is better than the ps3 controller because of the bugs it can cause.
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#8 Sep 27 2010 at 12:09 PM Rating: Good
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Xbox controller drivers were always iffy though - unless they fixed the trigger mapping issues. I don't know what kind of support XBCD has in Windows 7 now. XP it was pretty good though.

I use a USB adapter for playstation 2 controller and that works well without any extra tweaks in Win7. The Logitech Rumblepad 2 is a terrific wireless controller similar to the playstation style (just dont drop it too many times lol) that will work out of the box too, and finally you can use a Playstation 3 sixaxis controller with some special drivers and tweaks.

Still, they need to fix the effing Keyboard and mouse method. Ridiculous for a PC game to REQUIRE a controller to be passable.

#9 Sep 27 2010 at 12:26 PM Rating: Good
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PerrinofSylph wrote:
360 controller, nothing needed with windows. Plug in and play
PS3 controller, a bit of a hassle with windows


This is my experience too. I started off trying to get a PS3 controller to work. It was much hassle (windows 7 64 bit, I read that its easier on 32 bit).

XBox 360 controller was plug and play. Windows found and installed the driver on its own and it was ready to rock and roll.

And as far as "this is a pc game, it should use mouse & keyboard", this and 11 are designed to be fully playable on PS2 and PS3. It appears to me the controller was an integral part of the design and navigation decisions they made.

Its really great with a controller.
#10 Sep 27 2010 at 12:45 PM Rating: Good
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Yes the Logictech rumblepad 2 or wireless version best option. Xbox controller will work fine, but its around $50 for a wireless gamepad and USB receiver
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#11 Sep 27 2010 at 1:36 PM Rating: Good
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Remidi wrote:
crushgroove wrote:
I'm a keyboard/mouse pc player by heart.

I must say however, after hooking up my xbox 360 controller it made the game so different. I still use my keyboard/mouse for combat, but crafting, running around, harvesting, man is the controller sweet. So nice to sit back and play, camera movement is better, going through menu's seems faster and easier.

If you are one like me and you had not tried this game out with a controller, do it!



I agree, but I refuse to use mine. Its a PC game, they need to implement the pc/kb more, or they will lose many customers.


It's a mulit-platform game not a PC only game.

Simply refusing to try is a close minded attitude.





Edited, Sep 27th 2010 3:38pm by sparkytenks
#12 Sep 27 2010 at 2:05 PM Rating: Decent
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Just to clarify for those who may think they can just plug in a 360 controller and it work, a couple things to know...some of you may not find this "plug & play".

If you have a wired controller, it should be plug and play.

However, if you have a standard wireless 360 controller, you cannot use your "Recharge USB Cord" to connect to your PC. That cord only provides power, or in this case, the ability to recharge your chargeable battery pack - NOT DATA.

In order to do this, you either need to 1) Find am XBOX USB Wireless Receiver to connect to your pc or, 2) Buy the Wireless XBOX Controller for windows, which is a wireless controller with the wireless receiver - US Retail ~$60

Hope that helps.

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#13 Sep 27 2010 at 2:12 PM Rating: Good
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Just to clarify for those who may think they can just plug in a 360 controller and it work, a couple things to know...some of you may not find this "plug & play".

If you have a wired controller, it should be plug and play.

However, if you have a standard wireless 360 controller, you cannot use your "Recharge USB Cord" to connect to your PC. That cord only provides power, or in this case, the ability to recharge your chargeable battery pack - NOT DATA.

In order to do this, you either need to 1) Find am XBOX USB Wireless Receiver to connect to your pc or, 2) Buy the Wireless XBOX Controller for windows, which is a wireless controller with the wireless receiver - US Retail ~$60

Hope that helps.


To add to this. I suggest going to amazon.com and buying the Wireless Receiver.
I got mine there for a little over $20. Retail off the shelf is $50-60+ as they only sell it with a wireless controller now.

Yes! Very freaking lame. Especially if you already have 4 controllers

F you Microsoft. Those god **** moron swords.

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Edited, Sep 27th 2010 4:12pm by sparkytenks
#14 Sep 27 2010 at 2:18 PM Rating: Excellent
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I agree, but I refuse to use mine. Its a PC game, they need to implement the pc/kb more, or they will lose many customers.


If you refuse to use the game peripherals this was designed for just because you are used to mouse/kb then that's your own fault and you will quit eventually. FFXI is and was designed to be played with a controller as is FFXIV. This wont change. It will ALWAYS be superior to be played on the controller. If you actually gave it a chance you may find it's actually a lot better. I know a lot of people that refused at first to use a 360 controller, now they dont even touch their mouse.

Playing FFXIV with a mouse and keyboard while complaining how bad it is, is like playing guitar hero with a controller instead of a guitar and saying "this game sucks, they need to make controller more useful".

360 controller is superior when playing FFXIV. Anyone that thinks otherwise most likely hasnt even given it a chance. It's the same people that will cry and cry about not having a threat meter eventually. If they arent used to it, then it immediately sucks and cannot be adjusted to. People dont like change. It's a fact of life. But those that embrace change tend to enjoy life a lot more.

Edited, Sep 27th 2010 4:19pm by Soezu
#15 Sep 27 2010 at 2:19 PM Rating: Good
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My question to you folks using the Xbox controllers - are the drivers fixed so that the triggers no longer map as Axis? I tried a couple years back with a 360 controller, couldn't get the default drivers to map the triggers as buttons, fought with XBCD drivers for a month and wrote up a whole long guide somewhere in the feedback forums, and ultimately gave up entirely on using the xbox hardware.

If that's changed, I'd love to use an Xbox controller again. Very comfy, but I need those triggers mapped as buttons.
#16 Sep 27 2010 at 2:26 PM Rating: Good
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Torrence wrote:
My question to you folks using the Xbox controllers - are the drivers fixed so that the triggers no longer map as Axis? I tried a couple years back with a 360 controller, couldn't get the default drivers to map the triggers as buttons, fought with XBCD drivers for a month and wrote up a whole long guide somewhere in the feedback forums, and ultimately gave up entirely on using the xbox hardware.

If that's changed, I'd love to use an Xbox controller again. Very comfy, but I need those triggers mapped as buttons.


I know with XBCD with the original xbox (controller S) they're mapped as buttons. I can't say for the 360 controller though as I'm not home. Sorry.

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#17 Sep 27 2010 at 2:43 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm using both..kinda depends on what I'm doing. Down the road when fighting is more involved...I can see myself using a keyboard most of the time. The controller is just a bit too slow when I'm in a bind and need to make some quick moves to save myself or be creative with my abilities. But running around and crafting...360 controller is the way to go.
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#18 Sep 27 2010 at 2:46 PM Rating: Good
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Torrence wrote:
My question to you folks using the Xbox controllers - are the drivers fixed so that the triggers no longer map as Axis? I tried a couple years back with a 360 controller, couldn't get the default drivers to map the triggers as buttons, fought with XBCD drivers for a month and wrote up a whole long guide somewhere in the feedback forums, and ultimately gave up entirely on using the xbox hardware.

If that's changed, I'd love to use an Xbox controller again. Very comfy, but I need those triggers mapped as buttons.



AFAIK they are buttons. I mean, I'm using them to bring up the ctrl and alt macro list with LT and RT respectively. So I'm assuming they would work for any mapping.

I do have the Xbox 360 wireless controller for PC however.

Edited, Sep 27th 2010 4:47pm by Kierk
#19 Sep 27 2010 at 2:49 PM Rating: Good
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Torrence wrote:
My question to you folks using the Xbox controllers - are the drivers fixed so that the triggers no longer map as Axis? I tried a couple years back with a 360 controller, couldn't get the default drivers to map the triggers as buttons, fought with XBCD drivers for a month and wrote up a whole long guide somewhere in the feedback forums, and ultimately gave up entirely on using the xbox hardware.

If that's changed, I'd love to use an Xbox controller again. Very comfy, but I need those triggers mapped as buttons.


Yes, I am using them for target lock and something else I can't remember off the top of my head, they do act as buttons.
#20 Sep 27 2010 at 3:05 PM Rating: Good
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My controller is actually a 3rd party xbox wired controller. When I was setting it up I did notice that the trigger buttons looked like they controlled some axis, but all of my movement, camera, and menu navigations work correctly and the trigger buttons function like normal buttons, so I guess its fine.

The FFXIV controller set up lets you map any buttons/axis however you want.
#21 Oct 06 2010 at 5:50 PM Rating: Decent
Hiya,

I'm new to this board - and to FF XIV. I used to play FFXI a looong time ago. Been playing WoW ever since so just thought I'd give good old SE a last chance of redeeming themselves after the FFXIII disaster (don't shoot!).

I've purchased a Wireless Receiver off of Amazon for one of my 360 wireless controllers, as I thought I'd much rather use a controller if gameplay was even remotely similar to that of FFXI. Plugged it in, installed drivers, launched FF XIV config program, mapped buttons. So far so good. Saved settings...

And guess what? Game won't read my settings i.e. I can't use the controller once logged in. Have to go back to keyboard/mouse. After reading the glowing reviews all 360 wireless controller users have written here I'm kind of baffled. I've tried everything, can't get my controller to work. I've tried running the game controller utility on W7, it works flawlessly. Same with the "test gamepad" feature within the FFXIV config utility. Everything works fine... as long as I don't run the actual game.

Any ideas? This really has me puzzled...

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#22 Oct 06 2010 at 6:41 PM Rating: Good
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I use an Xbox 360 controller as well, and I don't even have a 360. I have also played using the mouse and keyboard, as well as a logitech dual shock knock off. Xbox controller is my favorite, even for battling.

I use a wired version though, searching google shows that is the easiest way.
#23 Oct 06 2010 at 6:42 PM Rating: Excellent
I love using my Dualshock3 with FFXIV! Then again, I played through the original LoZ with the old Rockband 1 guitar Smiley: cool
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