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#1 Sep 28 2010 at 12:00 AM Rating: Decent
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Hey guys. I don't know about you all, but I seem to get some ugly framerates. I don't know what I should be expecting, or what everyone else is getting, but I get about 23-28fps, regardless of graphical settings. Here's my specs:

Windows 7 64 bit

Core i7 870 2.9GHz
8MB RAM
Geforce GTX 480 @1536 MB RAM

My video card's also getting real hot. Any help or jsut sharing your experiences would be greatly appreciated.
#2 Sep 28 2010 at 7:05 AM Rating: Decent
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Do you have ambient occlusion on? :O

How hot is "real hot"? High end GPU's run really hot in general, and it's normal for them to reach a pretty hot temp from running a game like this.

Also, is this 23-28fps in town or anywhere?

OC that CPU a bit, that should help you a lot in town.
#3 Sep 28 2010 at 7:08 AM Rating: Default
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Turn off ambient occlusion.
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#4 Sep 28 2010 at 8:56 AM Rating: Decent
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For your video card, download EVGA precision: http://www.evga.com/precision/

Set it to turn on when your computer starts up, and set a fan profile that will increase your video card fan higher when the card hits around 80*C.

I have 2x GTX 275's in SLI, and the top one gets really hot in FFXIV. I've actually had it freeze my computer. I downloaded precision, and this hasn't happened yet, and my temps dont go over 85*C (not sure what they were at before, but hot enough to lock up the display).

Edited, Sep 28th 2010 10:56am by MinosGraedus
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MinosGraedus wrote:
For your video card, download EVGA precision: http://www.evga.com/precision/

Set it to turn on when your computer starts up, and set a fan profile that will increase your video card fan higher when the card hits around 80*C.

I have 2x GTX 275's in SLI, and the top one gets really hot in FFXIV. I've actually had it freeze my computer. I downloaded precision, and this hasn't happened yet, and my temps dont go over 85*C (not sure what they were at before, but hot enough to lock up the display).

Edited, Sep 28th 2010 10:56am by MinosGraedus



The top one is getting hot because FF isn't using SLI (didn't for me) and one card is doing all the work while the other one idles. If you force sli in FF within the nvidia control panel you will see the work load go 50/50 and heat will not be a issue.
#6 Sep 28 2010 at 9:36 AM Rating: Decent
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Awesome, I will try that when I get home. However, I thought that as long as you play in Fullscreen, FFXIV will enable sli automatically?
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#7 Sep 28 2010 at 12:40 PM Rating: Decent
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you would think so but from what I have seen 1 card does the motherload of the work while the other picks its nose.

i bought two cards and want them both to pull their share.
#8 Sep 28 2010 at 6:13 PM Rating: Decent
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What resolution are you playing on by the way?

I have two Gigabyte GTX 480 cards (set at stock speed), on a system with 12gb RAM, i7 930 @ 2.8ghz and I can only get 20-30 fps in busy zones but about 40-60 outdoors depending on what's there.

I run the game on 1920x1200 fullscreen with all settings to max except AA (which is set to none). The FPS hit for using 8x or 16x AA is around 5-10 and since I can't actually discern the differences I have it off. Ambient occlusion is worth about 10 fps as well so I keep that off. Having it on, I can't even reach 60 fps most of the time.

I have a feeling I've either set up my hardware wrong or something considering I can only get as much FPS as you >_<.

(note I'm using this profile on this link http://www.ffxivcore.com/topic/10596-nvidia-sli-fix-25896-drivers/)
#9 Sep 28 2010 at 6:54 PM Rating: Excellent
Defragging after installing helped me a lot, by cleaning up a good 15k files (so pretty much all of FFXIV).

Though that's using a defrag that isn't **** (I.E. not stock windows crap)
#10 Sep 28 2010 at 7:08 PM Rating: Good
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Been using 8800 GTS 512 with a dual core since launch, although there may be some lag in town due to the amount of players, it generally runs pretty smooth everywhere else. so nothing that stops my fun.
#11 Sep 28 2010 at 7:11 PM Rating: Good
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I have an EVGA GTX480 and I get about 25 to 35 fps around a lot of people and about 45 to 60 out and about. I use EVGA Precision and before I start the game I set the fan speed to 85% and I get 65 to 75C while playing.

Someday I will learn to proofread before I post the message. :)

Edited, Sep 28th 2010 9:13pm by Tasis
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#12 Sep 28 2010 at 7:12 PM Rating: Default
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get the i7 3.2ghz+ card should do fine stock and defrag your HDD to the max(a few times till it gets done fast) then it should be smooth

gtx480 max temp on nvidia site is 105C stock should not get hotter than 80C's and gets loud



Edited, Sep 28th 2010 9:18pm by mitmystria
#13 Sep 28 2010 at 8:22 PM Rating: Good
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Turning off draw distance alone will yield about 5 fps more. If you get to about 30 fps, then that is about as far as most will be at for a while until they optimize the game.

More information: http://ffxiv.zam.com/forum.html?game=268;mid=128536051236599131;page=1#m128536051236599131
#14 Sep 28 2010 at 8:25 PM Rating: Decent
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Kikiurin wrote:

8MB RAM


You may want to upgrade your ram.
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#15 Sep 28 2010 at 9:14 PM Rating: Good
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Reiterpallasch the Flawless Victor wrote:
Defragging after installing helped me a lot, by cleaning up a good 15k files (so pretty much all of FFXIV).

Though that's using a defrag that isn't sh*t (I.E. not stock windows crap)


Which defragger did you use?
#16 Sep 29 2010 at 12:20 AM Rating: Good
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Reiterpallasch the Flawless Victor wrote:
Defragging after installing helped me a lot, by cleaning up a good 15k files (so pretty much all of FFXIV).

Though that's using a defrag that isn't sh*t (I.E. not stock windows crap)


Which defragger did you use?

I use "Smart Defrag" which is part of Advanced System Care. It has a "Deep Optimize" setting which:

Smart Defrag wrote:
Defragments and intelligently organizes drive data for maximum program performance and long-lasting data contiguity.

The whole Advanced System Care program really is amazing. I only recently got the paid version (was worth it), but even the free one has some great features, able to un@#%^ a lot of registry problems, clear out junk files, get rid of spyware etc.

Edit: Also has a handy button that will shut off pretty much all unnecessary programs running in the background to free up a bit of RAM (usually 150-200MB in my case)

Edited, Sep 29th 2010 2:22am by Reiterpallasch
#17 Sep 29 2010 at 12:48 AM Rating: Decent
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Wow, thats guys, for all the helpful tips.
I did actually end up finding out about the Ambient Occlusion being a little buggy so I turned it off and my performance increased substantially. Now, I'm getting 45-60fps outside and about 27-45 in the city. I'm running at 1920x1080 windowed. Not really sure about the exact GPU temp. But I will get that evga precision because I want to keep this bad boy as healthy as possible.
I've had bad experiences with SLI, which is why I opted to buy this 480:D Getting more RAM is probly my next upgrade, but I jsut bought a new case so I'll hold on it for now. I'm going to also try a new defragger if i can find a decent one.
Currently I'm happy with how the game runs now that I turned Occlusion off, but with all these new suggestions I'm wanting to push it even further:)
#18 Sep 29 2010 at 12:54 AM Rating: Decent
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If you're getting those kind of frames, I must be doing something wrong with my SLI profile or whatnot lol. Interesting to know...
#19 Sep 29 2010 at 3:13 AM Rating: Decent
I have heard some people say SLI does not work in windowed mode?
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Kikiurin wrote:
Wow, thats guys, for all the helpful tips.
I did actually end up finding out about the Ambient Occlusion being a little buggy so I turned it off and my performance increased substantially. Now, I'm getting 45-60fps outside and about 27-45 in the city. I'm running at 1920x1080 windowed. Not really sure about the exact GPU temp. But I will get that evga precision because I want to keep this bad boy as healthy as possible.
I've had bad experiences with SLI, which is why I opted to buy this 480:D Getting more RAM is probly my next upgrade, but I jsut bought a new case so I'll hold on it for now. I'm going to also try a new defragger if i can find a decent one.
Currently I'm happy with how the game runs now that I turned Occlusion off, but with all these new suggestions I'm wanting to push it even further:)



I have the same setup and our FPS is the same roughly. Just use the windows defragger(Dont see how this would help anyway).
The 480's were built to run hot. Mine sits around 75-85c with the fan on auto. That is more than acceptable. As your system stands I would upgrade nothing. SLI is not working correctly in this game, and it may not for a long time, so dont waste your money.

**Well maybe the processor could use a upgrade, but meh it is a i7. I use this

I7920 2.80
Evga 480sc
6g ddr3 1600

I run the game at 1920x1080(fullscreen)
All settings to max. Ambient and .....the other option disabled. 8xqcsaa.
I get 60FPS everywhere with the dip to 35 in heavily crowded areas.
The ONLY this you should have set in your nvidia profile is single display mode(if applicable), Vsync and triple buffering on. Everything else should be set to default. That will give you your best FPS possible without screan tearing.

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Go to the device manager and click on the display tab. Right click the video card and click uninstall. Make sure you check the box labeled Uninstall drivers.
Restart in safe mode. Use a driver cleaner program like Driver cleaner. Restart when asked into regular mode.
Install drivers.

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Edited, Sep 29th 2010 7:55am by Remidi

Edited, Sep 29th 2010 7:59am by Remidi
#21 Sep 29 2010 at 5:36 AM Rating: Decent
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mygosity wrote:
What resolution are you playing on by the way?

I have two Gigabyte GTX 480 cards (set at stock speed), on a system with 12gb RAM, i7 930 @ 2.8ghz and I can only get 20-30 fps in busy zones but about 40-60 outdoors depending on what's there.

I run the game on 1920x1200 fullscreen with all settings to max except AA (which is set to none). The FPS hit for using 8x or 16x AA is around 5-10 and since I can't actually discern the differences I have it off. Ambient occlusion is worth about 10 fps as well so I keep that off. Having it on, I can't even reach 60 fps most of the time.

I have a feeling I've either set up my hardware wrong or something considering I can only get as much FPS as you >_<.

(note I'm using this profile on this link http://www.ffxivcore.com/topic/10596-nvidia-sli-fix-25896-drivers/)


Don't force settings in the drivers btw. Set AF and FSAA to "application controlled" and use FFXIV's config to set that instead.
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Final Fantasy XI 12-14-11 Update wrote:
Adjust the resolution of menus.
The main screen resolution for "FINAL FANTASY XI" is dependent on the "Overlay Graphics Resolution" setting.
If the Overlay Graphics Resolution is set higher than the Menu Resolution, menus will be automatically resized.


I thought of it first:

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=10&mid=130073657654872218#20
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