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#1 Sep 28 2010 at 2:02 AM Rating: Good
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I've been waiting on FFXIV for literally years. Following the development, blogging about it, getting friends to join me on it, creating meaningful groups behind it. I love the look of it, the feel of it and I truly want to believe in it, I really honestly do. But there are so many flaws right now I'm finding it incredibly hard to enjoy myself. One thing after another, one headache after another, I finally start wondering when I will experience some of the good fun things or something that makes me go "Yay!". There are so many bugs and glitches that have been around since Alpha testing, that people have flat out made over 9000 posts on the official beta forums about telling Square Enix what they are and still they remain unaddressed. I know the game is still in it's infancy, but even then when there are so many flaws, so many things that should be or should not be, so many bugs and glitches, as a consumer you have to eventually say "I'm glad it's in it's infancy, but why does that make me want to play it?".

I just failed a guildleve, again, due to another bug. These things are on a 36 hour reset timer and we only get 8 of them, it's also most people's main source of income right now (although I know it's not the only source). The fact of the matter is, I failed it because even though I switched classes BEFORE starting the guildleve, once I began it the game still thought I was on my crafting class (it was a battlecraft leve) and I tried unequipping, re-equipping, setting action abilities, everything, nothing worked so right before time was going to run out I tried temp logging which failed the leve for me. I have to wonder, why is it if you temp log or disconnect you fail one of these? And if you fail, why can you not simply restart or retry it?

There are just so many things like this that eventually add up. I'm sure you're all aware of pretty much all the little flaws, all the little bugs, all the glitches, all the systems that should be in place that aren't and all the things that are in place that shouldn't be. Square Enix not only has 8 years of MMORPG experience now, they have a community that for over 6 months has been telling them what to do, what they want, what they don't want, and 95% of it has been ignored. It's just starting to worry me. I know the game is still in it's infancy but again, you have to say, if there are enough things frustrating you at what point do you say it's not worth it? I've certainly not given up yet but I feel the urge to play less and less every day. Can anyone relate? How do you feel about this?

Edited, Sep 28th 2010 1:04am by EndlessJourney
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#2 Sep 28 2010 at 2:19 AM Rating: Decent
Next time, check to make sure your DoH/DoL class isn't in active mode. I had a glitch once where I was trying to switch classes from Miner and it wouldn't let me. It just told me I couldn't do that, not that I was in active mode. And the tricky part is, it's difficult to tell when a non-combat class is active. In my case (Hyur Highlander) he looks almost the same as in passive mode but his hands are a little farther out to the sides.

Other than that, I've never encountered a glitch that has prevented me from changing classes. And I make a point of ensuring that I'm the appropriate class before I even initiate a levequest.

If one failed leve is going to send you over the edge, take a break. It's not worth it. It's not worth another thread ******** about it. It's a few glitches and bugs here and there in a game that was rushed to market. It happens. I haven't heard of a single MMO that shipped its initial release at the level of polish people are accustomed to when switching from other, older MMOs.

I've been playing pretty steadily since CE release and I haven't failed a levequest of any kind. I've crashed twice (both while running around doing nothing besides running) and I've had the server conk out on me once. I haven't died yet (so much for the hideous onion helm's benefit). I do my thing and I learn to work around the unpolished bits. And if I were to fail a levequest or die because of a glitch, c'est la vie.
#3 Sep 28 2010 at 2:25 AM Rating: Excellent
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I didn't expect miracles but I *DID* expect open beta issues to be addressed by the time the game was released.

After hearing what people think of the game, my pre-order's been cancelled indefinitely. And I've signed up to beta test Star Wars: The Old Republic. I'll keep an eye out on XIV, and if it drastically improves I might consider picking it up at some point. But as of right now, I'm not going to be playing the game.

Such a shame. After the success of XI, people hoped SE would take a lot of the good points from that and build on it. But they haven't.
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#4 Sep 28 2010 at 3:49 AM Rating: Decent
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Square Enix not only has 8 years of MMORPG experience now, they have a community that for over 6 months has been telling them what to do, what they want, what they don't want, and 95% of it has been ignored


There is no way you should be saying this having played FFXI, you know how the dev team that are working on FFXIV are since they were the team on FFXI for the first 4-5 years. They listen to nobody, refuse to be pushed into doing things the players want and follow their own idea of how things should be, FFXI players know this....or did the last 2 years when they lost intrest in FFXI and just gave us everything make you forget how the game was run through its prime(when they cared)?

We got the **** stuck up FFXI dev team on here now, we all know how they operate or at least you should. They would rather see the game die in flames than be bullied into making changes to their vision of the game.

It really amazes me when long time FFXI players make comments like this, like all the years of experience on the previous game with how they operate just vanished out the window.
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#5 Sep 28 2010 at 4:32 AM Rating: Good
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preludes wrote:
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Square Enix not only has 8 years of MMORPG experience now, they have a community that for over 6 months has been telling them what to do, what they want, what they don't want, and 95% of it has been ignored


There is no way you should be saying this having played FFXI, you know how the dev team that are working on FFXIV are since they were the team on FFXI for the first 4-5 years. They listen to nobody, refuse to be pushed into doing things the players want and follow their own idea of how things should be, FFXI players know this....or did the last 2 years when they lost intrest in FFXI and just gave us everything make you forget how the game was run through its prime(when they cared)?

We got the **** stuck up FFXI dev team on here now, we all know how they operate or at least you should. They would rather see the game die in flames than be bullied into making changes to their vision of the game.

It really amazes me when long time FFXI players make comments like this, like all the years of experience on the previous game with how they operate just vanished out the window.


I guess a lot of us just hoped and heard that they had changed their ways and would be changing from this mentality, but I certainly can not argue with what you say, as it is indeed correct.
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#6 Sep 28 2010 at 4:38 AM Rating: Decent
There is a lot of crap that sucks.
There used to a whole lot more crap that sucks.

I'm having a blast regardless and hoping for more fixes soon.
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#7 Sep 28 2010 at 4:54 AM Rating: Default
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The game is still in its infancy,

you should probably stop playing for a couple of months and wait for the patches...
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#8 Sep 28 2010 at 5:01 AM Rating: Good
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EndlessJourney wrote:
The fact of the matter is, I failed it because even though I switched classes BEFORE starting the guildleve, once I began it the game still thought I was on my crafting class (it was a battlecraft leve) and I tried unequipping, re-equipping, setting action abilities, everything, nothing worked so right before time was going to run out I tried temp logging which failed the leve for me.


OP, I had this *EXACT* same glitch happen to me during the Open Beta... Lesson learned, do NOT mess around with your class before/during levequests. After spending the first 10 minutes hopelessly trying to beat it by throwing rocks at dodos, I came up with an idea.

I was able to resolve this by asking somebody to be in my party so I wouldn't lose my leve.. Added them to my party, tried to log out but it wouldn't let me (said I was already engaged), did an Alt+Tab to crash the game, restarted it, logged in, changed my class, had them invite me to the party, joined the party, touched the crystal.. badda-bing badda-boom problem solved and I was able to complete it before the timer ran out.


Edited, Sep 28th 2010 7:05am by Sidicas
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