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#1 Sep 29 2010 at 10:24 AM Rating: Default
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Hello people, Something odd happened yesterday in regards to CPU and GPU Temps. here is a rundown.

I tested my system yesterday and found this scary,

UT3 - Max graph - CPU 48 GPU 52

WOW - MAX GRAPH - CPU 55 GPU 65

FFXIV - WINDOWED 1050X768, NO OCCUSION- CPU 88 GPU 90.

This is crazy, i think I wont be playing this game until this is resolved, is not my PC
#2 Sep 29 2010 at 10:27 AM Rating: Good
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Aucirob wrote:
Hello people, Something odd happened yesterday in regards to CPU and GPU Temps. here is a rundown.

I tested my system yesterday and found this scary,

UT3 - Max graph - CPU 48 GPU 52

WOW - MAX GRAPH - CPU 55 GPU 65

FFXIV - WINDOWED 1050X768, NO OCCUSION- CPU 88 GPU 90.

This is crazy, i think I wont be playing this game until this is resolved, is not my PC


A lot of people say this, but in general it can indeed be a factor. FFXIV is higher quality compared to WoW and UT3. It isn't as optimized as it can be but it demands more resources than the other 2. Lots of people had to make changes to their setup in various ways to accommodate XIV.
#3 Sep 29 2010 at 10:28 AM Rating: Decent
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It is your PC. My GPU runs at about 60*C, and my CPU is water cooled so that's not really fair to compare. Perhaps you just need a better ventilated case, or a better system.

You're talking about playing a cartoon game vs playing a highly-refined movie-game, lol..

Edited, Sep 29th 2010 12:29pm by NecoSino
#4 Sep 29 2010 at 10:32 AM Rating: Default
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It is your PC. My GPU runs at about 60*C, and my CPU is water cooled so that's not really fair to compare. Perhaps you just need a better ventilated case, or a better system.

You're talking about playing a cartoon game vs playing a highly-refined movie-game, lol..

Edited, Sep 29th 2010 12:29pm by NecoSino


Well, Im also running Starcraft 2 at ultra full screen and cpu stays under 60 and gpu under 67, so i guess something is odd.
#5 Sep 29 2010 at 10:37 AM Rating: Good
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Regardless of what program you are running, your CPU temp should never get that high. Most "hot" cpus aren't supposed to exceed 60-65 celcius. I've noticed mine runs much hotter on FFXIV than wow or starcraft, but it never exceeds 57-58. And I've a fancy zalman copper cpu cooler.
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Try running a stress test on your system for 24 hours. See what your temps look like. They'll proabably look a lot like playing FFXIV for a few hours.

Any system build should have proper stress testing performed to make sure you built/bought a pc with adequate cooling and airflow. It's not FFXIV's fault that you don't have good cooling. FFXIV is making use of the available resources in your PC. Your other games are not.

You should find out what the safe operating range is for your components and then run stress tests. If you are not happy with the results, or find that the stress tests get bad results in their calculations then you need to reevaluate the cooling of the component having issues.
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Aucirob wrote:
Hello people, Something odd happened yesterday in regards to CPU and GPU Temps. here is a rundown.

I tested my system yesterday and found this scary,

UT3 - Max graph - CPU 48 GPU 52

WOW - MAX GRAPH - CPU 55 GPU 65

FFXIV - WINDOWED 1050X768, NO OCCUSION- CPU 88 GPU 90.

This is crazy, i think I wont be playing this game until this is resolved, is not my PC


Those games are not at all a good comparison to FFXIV. High end FPS games are usually good for testing out temps, like Crysis or Metro 2033.

EDIT: For stress testing how long should I run Prime95 or Furmark to ensure stability? Is an hour good? Some say overnight but that seems excessive. I get blue screens randomly once or twice a month or so and I want to see if it has to do with my overclock on my CPU. Also Crysis crashes at max settings after a few minutes even though it runs fine.

Edited, Sep 29th 2010 1:44pm by BRizzl3
#8 Sep 29 2010 at 11:48 AM Rating: Good
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Aucirob wrote:
Well, Im also running Starcraft 2 at ultra full screen and cpu stays under 60 and gpu under 67, so i guess something is odd.


I'm really getting sick of this... Aucirob, I'm sorry but people keep saying "I run SCII perfectly"... guess what, my computer runs Barbie Pony Adventures 2011 perfectly.... Just because a game is new doesn't mean it's amazing or demanding on your system. SCII is a nice game, but for the most part it's SC with a minor graphical overhaul.

See where I said minor? You want a Strategy Game that destoys your system? You'll be hard pressed to find one that does so on the GPU side of the house, yet you could nearly max out your CPU on Strategy games from the last decade. Strategy is usually CPU intensive, FPSs are usually GPU intensive. Newer games sometimes stress both; Crysis in it's youth is a good example of how a new game can make people think they have inadequate systems and become a benchmark, to only find out years later that it was just poorly coded in some areas. XIV might follow in the path of Crysis legend, or it just might be a forward thinking MMO.

Another fun one is Modern Warfare, it's so lax on system usage it's not even funny, but I swear between MW2 and SCII you'd think some one invented the next Crysis.

*EDIT* While I was typing BRizzl3 posted a more constructive post that better reflects what I was trying to get across.

Edited, Sep 29th 2010 5:50pm by PerrinofSylph
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#9 Sep 29 2010 at 11:56 AM Rating: Good
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WOW is over 5 years old, as is UT.
SC2 was meant to work on crappy web browsing PCs in Asian net cafes.

A better comparison to a modern RPG would be check temps vs Aion or Dragon Age.
#10 Sep 29 2010 at 11:56 AM Rating: Good
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Download MSI afterburner and setup your gpu fan speeds. It may be hotboxing your case.

That's all I got.
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Aucirob wrote:
Hello people, Something odd happened yesterday in regards to CPU and GPU Temps. here is a rundown.

I tested my system yesterday and found this scary,

UT3 - Max graph - CPU 48 GPU 52

WOW - MAX GRAPH - CPU 55 GPU 65

FFXIV - WINDOWED 1050X768, NO OCCUSION- CPU 88 GPU 90.

This is crazy, i think I wont be playing this game until this is resolved, is not my PC


That's realllly high and I assume your temps are in C and not F.

I have an AMD Phenom x3 with the stock heatsink/fan that it came with, in a stock case with no modifications, the only non-stock thing I've done is used artic silver thermal paste because I had to RMA my motherboard which destroyed the original thermal pad that came with the heatsink. My CPU temp stays between 40 and 41 C when playing FFXIV.

If that's 88 C on your CPU you're looking at greatly reduced life span on that part. I'd really look into increasing air flow and/or looking into your thermal pad/greese (if you put greese on yourself, maybe you used too much).
#12 Sep 29 2010 at 12:02 PM Rating: Default
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Aucirob wrote:
Hello people, Something odd happened yesterday in regards to CPU and GPU Temps. here is a rundown.

I tested my system yesterday and found this scary,

UT3 - Max graph - CPU 48 GPU 52

WOW - MAX GRAPH - CPU 55 GPU 65

FFXIV - WINDOWED 1050X768, NO OCCUSION- CPU 88 GPU 90.

This is crazy, i think I wont be playing this game until this is resolved, is not my PC

How old is your pc?
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Just used Prime95 on my CPU the first time using Easy Tune 6 to monitor heat, it seems like the program isn't safe. I've never had my CPU go over 56°C before, in 3 minutes Prime95 made it go up to 70°C and then I stopped it since this is where my alarm goes off and I will not allow my CPU to get any hotter. Even FFXIV Open Beta with Google Chrome and Windows Media Player open didn't make my CPU go over 56°C.

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Windows Vista 64-BIT
Gigabyte GA-MA770-UD3 Motherboard
AMD Phenom X4 9650 Agena OC'd to 2.7GHz
4GB G. Skill DDR2 1066 running at 540MHz(I know that's high, clocking it under this actually made my system unable to boot)
Radeon HD 5770 Juniper XT 1GB



Edited, Sep 29th 2010 2:05pm by BRizzl3
#14 Sep 29 2010 at 12:35 PM Rating: Default
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Hello ppl

Thanks for all the input, Good and bad posts are part of what forums are about and I will stress test my system cause I think its a great Idea to do, But I have to say still there is something wrong with this game, its taxing too much resources and ignoring many post about people getting their video card fried, even with stellar systems lead to believe something needs to be done by SE, Starcraft 2 do tax the machine to a crawl, MW2 also is a taxing game and the new Battlefield comes to mind. My PC is at least a year old with my latest addition a ASUS ENGTX 460 about a month ago, The FF benchmark told me i was golden to run this game and sadly I have to windowed mode because if i set it to ful screen and alttab I get booted out. Hopefully this will be fixed.
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Aucirob wrote:
MW2 also is a taxing game


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#16 Sep 29 2010 at 1:27 PM Rating: Good
BRizzl3 wrote:
Just used Prime95 on my CPU the first time using Easy Tune 6 to monitor heat, it seems like the program isn't safe. I've never had my CPU go over 56°C before, in 3 minutes Prime95 made it go up to 70°C and then I stopped it since this is where my alarm goes off and I will not allow my CPU to get any hotter. Even FFXIV Open Beta with Google Chrome and Windows Media Player open didn't make my CPU go over 56°C.

Specs:

Windows Vista 64-BIT
Gigabyte GA-MA770-UD3 Motherboard
AMD Phenom X4 9650 Agena OC'd to 2.7GHz
4GB G. Skill DDR2 1066 running at 540MHz(I know that's high, clocking it under this actually made my system unable to boot)
Radeon HD 5770 Juniper XT 1GB



Edited, Sep 29th 2010 2:05pm by BRizzl3


Hi,

If you have your cpu overclocked you should have already done stability testing with a program such as Prime95. The whole point of that program is to stress your cpu to test system stability and temps. If you are running on the stock cooler while overclocking I highly recommend getting aftermarket cooling. Also take a look at your case air circulation. If your RAM is not letting you boot at stock settings something is wrong with your system; perhaps the voltage? What program do you use to check hardware temps? I recommend Real Temp and CPUID HWMonitor. Lastly, if you have not already done so you may want to try reseating your heat sink. Sometimes heat issues can stem from poor contact. Make sure you reapply a thin layer of thermal paste every time you remove the heat sink.

-Hansel

P.S. Prime95 is perfectly safe on a stable system.
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HanselofAsura wrote:

Hi,

If you have your cpu overclocked you should have already done stability testing with a program such as Prime95. The whole point of that program is to stress your cpu to test system stability and temps. If you are running on the stock cooler while overclocking I highly recommend getting aftermarket cooling. Also take a look at your case air circulation. If your RAM is not letting you boot at stock settings something is wrong with your system; perhaps the voltage? What program do you use to check hardware temps? I recommend Real Temp and CPUID HWMonitor. Lastly, if you have not already done so you may want to try reseating your heat sink. Sometimes heat issues can stem from poor contact. Make sure you reapply a thin layer of thermal paste every time you remove the heat sink.

-Hansel

P.S. Prime95 is perfectly safe on a stable system.


I do use the stock cooler, as I said though I do not have heat issues. My temps normally range from 40-56°C, Prime95 was the only thing I have ever seen raise my CPU temp over 56°C. I used Gigabyte's Easy Tune 6 to monitor the temps on a 3 second refresh. The RAM will let me boot at stock if I set my CPU to stock(2.3GHz) but with my CPU at 2.7GHz(x10 multiplier at 270) it only seems to work with the RAM at 540MHz(x4 multiplier I believe). The heat I was experiencing was using the Torture Test in Prime95, again I have never seen temps like that before and it happened in 3 minutes, that doesn't mean something is wrong with my setup. If there was something wrong then the temps would get high when playing any one of the several games I have tried on this setup over the year it's been set up like this. I have played Crysis, The Sims 3, FFXIV, Modern Warfare 2, and Aion on this to name a few and never seen CPU temp over 56°C. Also my CPU fan went up to 4000RPM.
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BRizzl3 wrote:
Prime95 was the only thing I have ever seen raise my CPU temp over 56°C....The heat I was experiencing was using the Torture Test in Prime95, again I have never seen temps like that before and it happened in 3 minutes, that doesn't mean something is wrong with my setup.


You have inadequate cooling. You definitely have something wrong with your setup.

Software doesn't make hardware magically get hot. Software torture testing tells your hardware to do it's job and keep doing it. If your computer overheats and shuts down with Torture Testing then you have issues. What happens if some software or a virus on your pc glitches (or god forbid Windows hiccups) and pushes your processor to 100% for an extended period while you are not sitting in front of it - in your case you are relying on the auto shutoff to save your pc from frying itself.

I would instead recommend a properly mounted after market heatsink, with good thermal paste, and maybe a investment in some decent fans. It's amazing how good a fan you can buy for under $10. And you can get an amazing heatsink for less than the cost of this game. Your PC's cooling capabilities should be superior to it's processing power. If your processing power is superior to your cooling capabilities you're going to fry your equipment.

Edited, Sep 29th 2010 5:21pm by NayliaMR
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#19 Sep 29 2010 at 3:24 PM Rating: Excellent
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PerrinofSylph wrote:
SCII is a nice game, but for the most part it's SC with a minor graphical overhaul.


To be fair they did increase the amount of DIMENSIONS by 50%.
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NayliaMR wrote:
You have inadequate cooling. You definitely have something wrong with your setup.

Software doesn't make hardware magically get hot. Software torture testing tells your hardware to do it's job and keep doing it. If your computer overheats and shuts down with Torture Testing then you have issues. What happens if some software or a virus on your pc glitches (or god forbid Windows hiccups) and pushes your processor to 100% for an extended period while you are not sitting in front of it - in your case you are relying on the auto shutoff to save your pc from frying itself.

I would instead recommend a properly mounted after market heatsink, with good thermal paste, and maybe a investment in some decent fans. It's amazing how good a fan you can buy for under $10. And you can get an amazing heatsink for less than the cost of this game. Your PC's cooling capabilities should be superior to it's processing power. If your processing power is superior to your cooling capabilities you're going to fry your equipment.

Edited, Sep 29th 2010 5:21pm by NayliaMR


That must be the reason that AMD said that Furmark damages graphics cards and doesn't represent real world applications.

At any rate I'm not going to go through the trouble of changing my CPU heatsink and fan at the moment because I'm going to be changing to an Intel build sometime soon and the only thing that will remain the same in my PC is the PSU, DVD RW Drive, HDD, CD-ROM, Wi-fi Card, and for a limited time the Graphics Card, and at that time I'm going to be using an aftermarket cooler for that setup. I'm not worried about it anyway since it doesn't regularly overheat. I did clock my processor back down to 2.3 after reading some articles about it being bad for overclocking and unstable even at 2.6, though.

EDIT: I guess I was probably wrong about Prime95 just ran it a little bit again at stock and the CPU stayed from 65-67°C, never breaking 70. I read that if your CPU can stay under 70 for Prime95 you're pretty good, however this brings me to believe I should keep my CPU at stock temps since it doesn't have aftermarket cooling.


Edited, Sep 29th 2010 6:26pm by BRizzl3
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NecoSino wrote:
It is your PC. My GPU runs at about 60*C, and my CPU is water cooled so that's not really fair to compare. Perhaps you just need a better ventilated case, or a better system.

You're talking about playing a cartoon game vs playing a highly-refined movie-game, lol..

Edited, Sep 29th 2010 12:29pm by NecoSino


Your GPU is 60C in part because of your water cooled CPU. If you had a CPU anywhere between 40-60C with that hot air getting blown into the case you'd have GPU temps in the 70's-80's. Also you don't mention what GPU you have and what fan speed you keep it at. But the OP's GPU temp of 90 is normal, whereas 88 is not.
#22 Sep 29 2010 at 6:19 PM Rating: Decent
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BRizzl3 wrote:
That must be the reason that AMD said that Furmark damages graphics cards and doesn't represent real world applications.


This sounds more like Cover Our *** from AMD. Oops, we released reference card designs that had inadequate cooling when the cards are pushed hard...

I see similar temps from FFXIV as from Furmark...so I'd say I'm calling their bluff that it doesn't represent real world usage. We clearly have a video game that is capable of pushing cards hard to create a beautiful world. I'm not sure this is one we can blame on SE. Aren't video cards somewhat based on the idea that they will be pushed hard by future games - not just have to play old ones well?

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EDIT: I guess I was probably wrong about Prime95 just ran it a little bit again at stock and the CPU stayed from 65-67°C, never breaking 70. I read that if your CPU can stay under 70 for Prime95 you're pretty good, however this brings me to believe I should keep my CPU at stock temps since it doesn't have aftermarket cooling.


Yes, you'd be wise to stay at the processor's spec'd clockspeed if you aren't using aftermarket cooling. Also, I'd say that under 70 is a bit of a generalization and the temp range you want to stay in will vary from AMD to Intel and also differently across product lines. You should be able to research your specific processor and find out what the recommend operating range is. Then you don't necessarily need to run Prime95 forever to test it, but make sure that Prime can run for at least 30 minutes without causing an auto shutoff and you can monitor it inside the recommended range. I find that 30min gets you to the 99.9% temperature and after that you usually see only smaller temp fluctuations so everyone should be at least trying that.


Note...I'm running a HD 5570 hard. And just enjoying that the game is playable and looks good. It's definitely running hot, but it's also running fanless so I'm making a tradeoff about cooling vs longterm life of my card. But I understand that putting a graphics card with just a heatsink and no fan, and then playing video games on it non-stop with limited system wide cooling available will potentially shorten the life of the card. It might also give me an excuse to by a higher end card if I can just kill this one :)

Edited, Sep 29th 2010 8:25pm by NayliaMR
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NecoSino wrote:
It is your PC. My GPU runs at about 60*C, and my CPU is water cooled so that's not really fair to compare. Perhaps you just need a better ventilated case, or a better system.

You're talking about playing a cartoon game vs playing a highly-refined movie-game, lol..

Edited, Sep 29th 2010 12:29pm by NecoSino


Your GPU is 60C in part because of your water cooled CPU. If you had a CPU anywhere between 40-60C with that hot air getting blown into the case you'd have GPU temps in the 70's-80's. Also you don't mention what GPU you have and what fan speed you keep it at. But the OP's GPU temp of 90 is normal, whereas 88 is not.



Gotta agree with this. His GPU temps are just fine, it's the processor temps that are concerning. I wouldn't bat an eyelid if my GPU hit 90c under load with stock cooling and no manual tuning of the card's fan while running a game like FFXIV. I would **** many bricks if I looked and saw my CPU at 88c under load.
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#24 Sep 29 2010 at 7:14 PM Rating: Decent
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Gotta agree with this. His GPU temps are just fine, it's the processor temps that are concerning. I wouldn't bat an eyelid if my GPU hit 90c under load with stock cooling and no manual tuning of the card's fan while running a game like FFXIV. I would sh*t many bricks if I looked and saw my CPU at 88c under load.


Definitely, I saw my GPU hitting temperatures in the 85-90c range. This was easily remedied for me, I ran MSI Afterburner with fan speed monitored and found out that the top speed my fan was hitting was 40%, and not until it hit 80c. Easily fixed my cooling issue by opening up CCC and setting the fan speed to manual 50%, so it is always at 50% no matter what. Now my card idles at about 45c and in FFXIV goes up to ~75c. Interestingly enough The Sims 3 will still push my card into the 80's, that game is taxing.

Edited, Sep 29th 2010 9:15pm by BRizzl3
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you don't want an AMD going over 60 to be honest, if you're using coretemp, 55 is the most you want when overclocking,

as for your processor, the first gen phenoms really do suck at overclocking. the newer phenom II's hit 4ghz for the 955 and 965 models with good cooling pretty decently without breaking the bank.

if you want to go intel all well and good, but I think you should read up a bit more about cooling and overclocking before you jump in head first.
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you don't want an AMD going over 60 to be honest, if you're using coretemp, 55 is the most you want when overclocking,

as for your processor, the first gen phenoms really do suck at overclocking. the newer phenom II's hit 4ghz for the 955 and 965 models with good cooling pretty decently without breaking the bank.

if you want to go intel all well and good, but I think you should read up a bit more about cooling and overclocking before you jump in head first.


I know a lot more about overclocking now. I built this computer at the beginning of 2009 and it was my first build. I've done a lot of research since then. I'm upgrading to Intel because I can get an i7 950 quad core that scores better on benchmarks than the AMD Phenom X6 1090T:

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/desktop-cpu-charts-2010/PCMark-Vantage-Overall-Result,2414.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/desktop-cpu-charts-2010/Raw-Performance-SiSoftware-Sandra-2010-Pro-GFLOPS,2409.html



Edited, Sep 29th 2010 9:59pm by BRizzl3
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Thanks for all the input, Good and bad posts are part of what forums are about and I will stress test my system cause I think its a great Idea to do, But I have to say still there is something wrong with this game, its taxing too much resources and ignoring many post about people getting their video card fried, even with stellar systems lead to believe something needs to be done by SE, Starcraft 2 do tax the machine to a crawl, MW2 also is a taxing game and the new Battlefield comes to mind. My PC is at least a year old with my latest addition a ASUS ENGTX 460 about a month ago, The FF benchmark told me i was golden to run this game and sadly I have to windowed mode because if i set it to ful screen and alttab I get booted out. Hopefully this will be fixed.


You have a cooling issue. I can give you a program right now that will make your system run hot, because it has the new technology. Manage how your fan speeds adjust to programs and/or research how to get a good flow of cool air in and out of your PC. I can run wow right now or many other games at max settings and my temps. don't go as high. But if I run something that is taxing my gpu and cpu with a modern framework, my temps. start to rise higher.
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Most likely your cooling. Most people cry that there PC runs slow or crashes or cant compete to the same persons PC specs but have over looked their tower and cpu cooling.

hope this video answers all questions, dont over clock with poor cooling

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQxw9Sx1-Uk
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Everyone saying that software can't cause hardware to overheat by terribad coding couldn't be more incorrect. While in most cases it's a user generated problem - there are hundreds if not thousands of instances where bad coding can lead to obnoxious overheating in system components because they won't 'throttle' properly. Basic computing knowledge <.<
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loyaltrekie wrote:
Everyone saying that software can't cause hardware to overheat by terribad coding couldn't be more incorrect. While in most cases it's a user generated problem - there are hundreds if not thousands of instances where bad coding can lead to obnoxious overheating in system components because they won't 'throttle' properly. Basic computing knowledge <.<


I'd push back and say that the OS and the drivers are then also not doing their job. If some lazy application coding can completely override all safeguards on hardware, then those safeguards aren't doing their job.
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loyaltrekie wrote:
Everyone saying that software can't cause hardware to overheat by terribad coding couldn't be more incorrect. While in most cases it's a user generated problem - there are hundreds if not thousands of instances where bad coding can lead to obnoxious overheating in system components because they won't 'throttle' properly. Basic computing knowledge <.<


Starcraft II pre-patch would like a few words with you... it was frying GPUs in still frame areas of the game... they forgot to code a frame limit into the normally on-intensive sesions of minimal animation. So the cards were just redrawing it faster and faster until they fried. Granted on a case with good airflow you'll hear the fans ramp up to ungodly levels long before your hardware is permantly damaged... usually. But most people who consider themselves enthusiast PC gamers are in fact entry level (They bought pre-builts, or they tried to go cheap etc... I've never been a big fan of the whole $20 PC case housing a PC that cost 2 grand... although my Wifes PC is just that with modified airflow). This leads to all sorts of potential nasty situations.

PS I'm so glad you have "Basic computing knowledge <.<
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#32 Oct 01 2010 at 12:09 PM Rating: Decent
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It is your system and i isnt.

My pc strted bluescreening all the time with FFXIV and it turned out that my 9800GTX was overheating bad it would hit 80 degrees and video drivers would crash. I had noticed i never heard my GPU fan kick in like it used to..

I downloaded a EVGA overclocking utility and manually turned my fan to 80% and now i can hear it and game doesnt go over 72 degrees and doesnt crash anymore..

Try that out remember default gpu drivers dont have fine fan control for your card thats why your not supposed to just downlaod the latest drivers from nvidia or ati you have to download the older "crappy" ones from your card manufacturer or you will have these same problems all the time.
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