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#1 Sep 29 2010 at 7:59 PM Rating: Default
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I am sorry for posting a new thread on this subject but I was getting no response on the PC build thread.

I currently own an HP laptop about a year old. It runs the game, but the lag is so terrible, it renders the game un playable. I went to the HP website and am attempting to build a decent laptop so I can finaly enjoy this game. What I came up with is this :
HP dv6tse series

Operating system Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit edit
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-720QM Quad Core processor (1.6GHz, 6MB L3 Cache) with Turbo Boost up to 2.8 GHz edit
Graphics card 1GB ATI Mobility Radeon(TM) HD 5650 Graphics [HDMI, VGA] - For Quad Core Processors edit
Memory FREE Upgrade to 6GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm) edit
Hard drive FREE Upgrade to 640GB 5400RPM Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection edit
Office software Microsoft(R) Office Starter 2010 edit
Security software No additional security software edit
Primary battery 6 Cell Lithium Ion Battery (standard) - Up to 5 hours of battery life +++ edit
Display 15.6" diagonal High Definition LED HP Brightview Widescreen Display (1366x768) edit
Touchscreen No TouchScreen (includes HP TrueVision Webcam) edit
Primary optical drive SuperMulti 8X DVD+/-R/RW with Double Layer Support edit
Networking Intel Wireless-N Card edit
Keyboard Standard Keyboard edit

once again sorry for yet another pc topic but I'm dieing to play the game already.
thank you for the help
#2 Sep 29 2010 at 8:15 PM Rating: Decent
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You're not alone. I have an HP laptop too and I lag horribly as well
#3 Sep 29 2010 at 8:33 PM Rating: Decent
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How much is that laptop going to cost you? You might be able to get an equivalent from a different manufacturer cheaper.
#4 Sep 29 2010 at 8:39 PM Rating: Good
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Try turning off extended drawing and pysyx. Try what you are comfortable with, in this guide.

http://ffxiv.zam.com/forum.html?game=268;mid=128536051236599131;page=1#m128536051236599131
#5 Sep 29 2010 at 8:41 PM Rating: Decent
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The price after rebates is under $1200 which in my eyes seem rather affordable compaired to other laptops I have been looking at. I heard grey screen problems with Asus laptops and I like HP because the one I own now has been a good little trooper with all the other games I play but I just think FF 14 is just too much for the guy and would need a major update. Im not a very tech savy person so I reach out here for help so I wont make a mistake in buying something that will give me the same problems I'm having now.
#6 Sep 29 2010 at 8:44 PM Rating: Decent
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Valha wrote:
The price after rebates is under $1200 which in my eyes seem rather affordable compaired to other laptops I have been looking at. I heard grey screen problems with Asus laptops and I like HP because the one I own now has been a good little trooper with all the other games I play but I just think FF 14 is just too much for the guy and would need a major update. Im not a very tech savy person so I reach out here for help so I wont make a mistake in buying something that will give me the same problems I'm having now.


That sounds like a good price for it actually. It will at least run it better than what you have now, I don't think any laptop will run it flawlessly though.
#7 Sep 29 2010 at 8:48 PM Rating: Decent
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I gave up on laptops for gaming. It just doesn't equate to a enjoyable experience.

Do you need your new system to be a laptop? I mean if you have a semi new one, why don't you just build a desktop for less money. I have a laptop I use for school, and I just put in my order for my new gaming only desktop.
#8 Sep 29 2010 at 8:48 PM Rating: Decent
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Valha wrote:
ATI Mobility Radeon(TM) HD 5650 Graphics
Not well, but it will run at a low resolution passably.
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#9 Sep 29 2010 at 8:54 PM Rating: Decent
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Thanks for the input I appriciate it. I turned off all the pretty stuff in game and went into the configuration menu outside the game and put everything to low settings. I will try some of the things in the guide but I can almost hear the tiny screams from my poor laptop in trying to play this game. I got as far as killing one wolf in a battle tutorial and after that, I kept over running mobs or trying to attck and get nothing and they walk away from me from the lag. Yes I'm sure no laptop would be perfect in playing this game but because I am on the move so much, I can't lug around a desk top everywere I go... or can I? haha
#10 Sep 29 2010 at 9:22 PM Rating: Good
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For posterity,
I'm playing it on this guy: http://1toppc.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=U33JC-A1 (mine has slower CPU, but same everything else)

I turn off dust, physics, extended draw and play windowed 720p at 3/4 buffer, all textures and models on high and I get very playable performance.
I do plan on building a performance desktop eventually, but this laptop is more than good enough for it, and I think the one posted is even faster.
#11 Sep 29 2010 at 10:38 PM Rating: Decent
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If your spending 1000-$1200 you should be able to afford a laptop with a better graphics card. Try doing some more looking around.
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#12 Sep 30 2010 at 1:27 AM Rating: Decent
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Okies so I did some more searching but I couldn't find any HP laptop on their website that offers a better graphics card than the one I posted. so I found this Toshiba Laptop for around the same price. Now I don't really know what is a good graphics card would be but it sounds nice on the web site:

Satellite P500-BT2G23

Limited Warranty and Services

■1 Year Standard Limited Warranty

Accessories


Laptop Specifications ■customized


■Intel® Core™ i7-740QM processor (1.73 GHz (2.93 GHz with Turbo Boost Technology), 6MB Cache
■Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium 64-bit
■6GB DDR3 1066MHz SDRAM (4096MB+2048MB)
■640GB HDD (5400rpm, Serial-ATA)
■No Secondary Hard Drive Installed
■NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 330M with 1GB GDDR3 discrete graphics

Any better guys? I would hate to keep bumping this old topic to the top of the boards and bother you all but I really don't wanna spend $1200 for a **** laptop. Thank you everyone =)
#13 Sep 30 2010 at 1:34 AM Rating: Decent
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If you didn't have to have a laptop I would get a desktop. You'll get more bang for your buck as a gaming rig that way. Laptops even in the pricier ranges don't usually even perform so well(for the money anyways). Most of the high end gaming laptops feel like someone put a stove burner in your lap as well lol
#14 Sep 30 2010 at 7:04 AM Rating: Decent
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Mobility HD 5650 is actually better than the 330M. If you really want a laptop, buy a very cheap and very portable one, then build your own desktop with the remaining funds. You'll have the best of both worlds, just in two different packages.

For example, if you're going to spend $1200 on a laptop, you may want to consider getting a $400 laptop and then buying $800 worth of PC parts and making a stronger desktop than you could possibly get with $1200 in a laptop.
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#15 Sep 30 2010 at 9:52 AM Rating: Decent
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I would go with asus g73. I actually did go with the asus. AFter research it was that or toshiba quosmio (i had an older quosmio i used for gaming and loved it but heat dissipation was an issue). I read a lot about the gerrey screen on the asus, but from messageboards it seemed like they recently came out with a fix that worked for those who tried it. I gave it a shot and the only issue i had wasz ffxiv would crash at login until i updated card to newst drivers. As for those who say laptops are not worth playing on it is all opinion and mine is the opposite. I cant imagine being tied to to one location anymore. My settings are set medium to high for nearly everythin andonly real lag i have is in inventory and that is not the pc. Even plays well with softwRe mouse, but better now with hardware. Desktops definitely more cost effecient especially factoring in eaSe of upgraDe. Zsorry if spelling bad i typing on phone.
#16 Sep 30 2010 at 10:30 AM Rating: Decent
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Valha wrote:

■NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 330M with 1GB GDDR3 discrete graphics

meh...

This 17" Alienware, with SLI or Crossfire, would do the trick.

Personally i'd wait for something like this Avid, with the GTX 480M to come down in price; this game is a notebook killer!
#17 Sep 30 2010 at 10:38 AM Rating: Decent
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I play on a Toshiba Satellite with only a i3 330M - 2,26GHz, and ATi Mobility Radeon HD5165, and it runs the game with medium setting with ease. No problems at all; my guess is with that i7 proc. the OP shouldn't have an issue running this game with high settings.
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#18 Sep 30 2010 at 10:39 AM Rating: Good
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Here is a new system for what you're looking to do

its just under 1500 so a bit more than the hp system
but its spec'd way way way better

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220695&cm_re=G73Jh-_-34-220-695-_-Product
#19 Sep 30 2010 at 11:12 AM Rating: Good
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Here is another decent laptop:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834152192&cm_re=msi-_-34-152-192-_-Product

Almost as good as the ASUS, but 150 cheaper, after a mir.
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#20 Sep 30 2010 at 11:26 AM Rating: Decent
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MinosGraedus wrote:
Here is another decent laptop:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834152192&cm_re=msi-_-34-152-192-_-Product

Almost as good as the ASUS, but 150 cheaper, after a mir.
That was one that I was really looking into getting, but the 1680x1050 native resolution wasn't quite what I was looking for. I preferred having the full HD 1080p screen, but that's just a personal preference. Otherwise, the differences are fairly minimal. I will say that the ASUS does a very good job with cooling and staying quiet under load, something my mom's Toshiba Satellite doesn't do well idle. The comments on the MSI laptop's feedback page indicate that the fan can get very loud, so that's worth considering.



Edited, Sep 30th 2010 12:26pm by bsphil
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#21 Sep 30 2010 at 11:30 AM Rating: Decent
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I just want to thank everyone for all your help. That Asus laptop looks very nice even with the $1500 price tag and might be my choice if he grey screen issue can we worked around. I'm sure I am being overly cautious about graphics cards and procssors and all that good stuff being I am totally PC ignorant (I'm a console girl) I just find all this shopping a little overwhelming. I even tried to shop for a "portable" desk top that would be easy to break down and travel with from my house to my boyfriends house, moms house etc.. like a fragbox from falcon but the price was insane lol. so really a laptop is my only choice for the time being. My goal isn't to run the game on high or medium settings with all the bells and whistles. I would be content to play on the lowest settings possible and no pretty effects just as long as I dont lag =)
#22 Sep 30 2010 at 11:42 AM Rating: Decent
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bsphil wrote:
but the 1680x1050 native resolution wasn't quite what I was looking for. I preferred having the full HD 1080p screen,


Just so its said, you going to need a lot more horse power to run FFXIV at playable framerates @ 1080p. My desktop plays at steady 30FPS (only) at 1080p /w AMD 2.8Ghz Quad Core / GeForce GTX470; well above the “recommended system requirements”

I have an Alienware m11x; it has the i7 2.2Ghz (turbo) / Geforce GT 335M. Its not playable at 1280x720, FRAPS averages me at around 14 FPS. It is playable 1280x720 at HALF resolution; looks like the PS2 version of FFXI…

I’d look at that Alienware M17x and Avid I linked above if you’re going for higher resolution… I’m waiting on more models with the GTX 480M myself.
#23 Sep 30 2010 at 11:46 AM Rating: Decent
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sideways wrote:
bsphil wrote:
but the 1680x1050 native resolution wasn't quite what I was looking for. I preferred having the full HD 1080p screen,


Just so its said, you going to need a lot more horse power to run FFXIV at playable framerates @ 1080p. My desktop plays at steady 30FPS (only) at 1080p /w AMD 2.8Ghz Quad Core / GeForce GTX470; well above the “recommended system requirements”

I have an Alienware m11x; it has the i7 2.2Ghz (turbo) / Geforce GT 335M. Its not playable at 1280x720, FRAPS averages me at around 14 FPS. It is playable 1280x720 at HALF resolution; looks like the PS2 version of FFXI…

I’d look at that Alienware M17x and Avid I linked above if you’re going for higher resolution… I’m waiting on more models with the GTX 480M myself.
For what it's worth, even during the beta I was getting 30 fps on my G73JH at 1080p. The MSI laptop listed also has the same CPU and GPU, so it should be performing at about the same level, slightly better because of the smaller max resolution allowable by the monitor.

I'd have no doubts that a 335M GPU is going to make the game nigh unplayable even at low resolutions. It's just a bad mobility video card. There are very few good ones, and they happen to be the mobility HD 5870, the 470M, and the 480M.

Edited, Sep 30th 2010 12:48pm by bsphil
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#24 Sep 30 2010 at 11:50 AM Rating: Decent
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Sounds like they made one hella PC :)
I’d run the benchmark so you have synthetic proof your all right.
#25 Sep 30 2010 at 12:40 PM Rating: Decent
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sideways wrote:
bsphil wrote:
but the 1680x1050 native resolution wasn't quite what I was looking for. I preferred having the full HD 1080p screen,


Just so its said, you going to need a lot more horse power to run FFXIV at playable framerates @ 1080p. My desktop plays at steady 30FPS (only) at 1080p /w AMD 2.8Ghz Quad Core / GeForce GTX470; well above the “recommended system requirements”

I have an Alienware m11x; it has the i7 2.2Ghz (turbo) / Geforce GT 335M. Its not playable at 1280x720, FRAPS averages me at around 14 FPS. It is playable 1280x720 at HALF resolution; looks like the PS2 version of FFXI…

I’d look at that Alienware M17x and Avid I linked above if you’re going for higher resolution… I’m waiting on more models with the GTX 480M myself.


For the record i have 0 issues playing at 1080p with "resolution" settings on my g73. Some g73 screens dont have 1080p resolution though so have to look at details. I think all can send 1080p out to monitor or tv though
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