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#1 Sep 30 2010 at 8:14 AM Rating: Decent
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Imp proceeds to AoE everyone for 1000 damage.

According to that other topic, I should just pretend everything in this game is a quest from WoW. So I'm pretending this is where I press release and turn into a ghost so I can talk to a ghost NPC that rewards me with a funny looking hat.

But I don't get an actual hat. And my leve still isn't finished.
#2SudoNemesis, Posted: Sep 30 2010 at 8:23 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Yeah the con system is completely broken, just ignore it. Welcome to Final Craftasy XIV, where 90% of everything will one shot you. Except rats. They only one shot you 30% of the time.
#3 Sep 30 2010 at 8:53 AM Rating: Excellent
SudoNemesis wrote:
TheLufia wrote:
Imp proceeds to AoE everyone for 1000 damage.

According to that other topic, I should just pretend everything in this game is a quest from WoW. So I'm pretending this is where I press release and turn into a ghost so I can talk to a ghost NPC that rewards me with a funny looking hat.

But I don't get an actual hat. And my leve still isn't finished.

Yeah the con system is completely broken, just ignore it. Welcome to Final Craftasy XIV, where 90% of everything will one shot you. Except rats. They only one shot you 30% of the time.


You're posts are starting to get really boring now.
#4 Sep 30 2010 at 8:58 AM Rating: Default
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Pinkfyre wrote:
SudoNemesis wrote:
TheLufia wrote:
Imp proceeds to AoE everyone for 1000 damage.

According to that other topic, I should just pretend everything in this game is a quest from WoW. So I'm pretending this is where I press release and turn into a ghost so I can talk to a ghost NPC that rewards me with a funny looking hat.

But I don't get an actual hat. And my leve still isn't finished.

Yeah the con system is completely broken, just ignore it. Welcome to Final Craftasy XIV, where 90% of everything will one shot you. Except rats. They only one shot you 30% of the time.


Your posts are starting to get really boring now.

Well exccuuuuussseeeee me princess.
#5 Sep 30 2010 at 9:32 AM Rating: Decent
If you're in a party, don't trust the colored icon. Ever. I learned that the "hard" way in open beta when myself and two others came across a giant crab in La Nosca that conned blue to us in a group and when we engaged it, it just spun in a circle one-shotting us. The icon system seems to be applicable as a solo player, but the way they've tuned the adjustments it makes when you're in a party makes it ineffective.
#6 Sep 30 2010 at 9:37 AM Rating: Decent
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Not sure what the deal is with the imps, but their AOE attack seems to be really weak to one shot capable.

As for the con system. Not sure what your parties have been made up of, but I am sure that you were probably the lowest person in the party. I have yet to find any mob that has mis-conned when I am in a party, and I have been able to kill every mob we have seen that is orange or lower, as long as I don't pull too much hate (being a con, I am alittle bit squishy).
#7 Sep 30 2010 at 9:38 AM Rating: Good
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The One and Only Aurelius wrote:
If you're in a party, don't trust the colored icon. Ever. I learned that the "hard" way in open beta when myself and two others came across a giant crab in La Nosca that conned blue to us in a group and when we engaged it, it just spun in a circle one-shotting us. The icon system seems to be applicable as a solo player, but the way they've tuned the adjustments it makes when you're in a party makes it ineffective.


OR (and I could be completely wrong because I've haven't grouped yet >_<, but) it could be con-ing off of the highest level player?
#8 Sep 30 2010 at 9:57 AM Rating: Decent
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The group was lvl 14-15. We were doing a 3 star lvl 20 leve.

Edited, Sep 30th 2010 11:57am by TheLufia
#9 Sep 30 2010 at 10:28 AM Rating: Excellent
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Why at 14-15 would you put a rank 20 leve on three stars?

Granted there are the occasionally really easy ones (the roseling/beetles one from bloodshore, and the nutbiter one from tranquil.) but there are ones that are brutal too, wights, assassins, footpads, antelope, crabs... any of those at three stars with a group of 14-15 would be practically impossible.

The biggest thing stars seem to do is make the mobs hit harder... not really what you want from mobs with aoes 5 levels under the optimal rank.
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#10 Sep 30 2010 at 11:36 AM Rating: Decent
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Why at 14-15 would you put a rank 20 leve on three stars?


I've soloed lvl 20 1 star leves at lvl 13 (including the leve in which I failed at in this topic). I duoed several more lvl 20 leves (including the humanoid one) at two star as a lvl 13/16 double caster party. So me thinking I could 3 star a lvl 20 leve in a tank-caster-caster group seems perfectly reasonable to me.
#11 Sep 30 2010 at 11:39 AM Rating: Decent
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If the names of the stars are anything to judge by, 1 star is solo, 2 is 2-3, 3 meant for 5 people, 4 is meant for 10, and 5 for 15 people. But its kinda wonky. Sometimes more stars just increases the str and def of the targets. Sometimes it causes insane spawns. (level 10 leve where you have to fight scalepuks, if you set it on 5 stars, you get a linked pack of 6 scalepuks. its AWESOME seeing them all cliff cry a single person and instagib them)
#12 Sep 30 2010 at 11:45 AM Rating: Decent
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You seem to be forgetting that the imp conned even matched to a 3 person group with the highest level being 15.

Should I mention that we killed several "even matched" giant crabs in our journey?

I also don't think amount of people would have mattered, considering it was an AoE. Even a level 20 getting hit for 1000 is probably going to die. It's not like HP increases drastically, and your phys level points start meaning a lot less once you hit the 40 point soft cap. And if you're gonna say that if we were the appropriate level we wouldn't have taken as much damage, THEN WHY IS IT EVEN MATCH? Shouldn't something that one shots you be...I dunno...incredibly tough?
#13 Sep 30 2010 at 11:47 AM Rating: Decent
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Heh. Friend and I tried to duo a 1 star leve last night. He didn't tell me what it was going into it. kill ten cactuars. Second it loaded I called "I'm going to laugh when we get insta-gibbed by 1k needles". Sure enough, instant-prep spamming aoe 1k needles. Even if one of us ran away, it'd follow spamming it.
Edit: To note, they con'd blue.

Edited, Sep 30th 2010 1:47pm by SudoNemesis
#14 Sep 30 2010 at 11:52 AM Rating: Decent
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I've soloed a cactuar leve. The answer to 1k needles was kill it before it used 1k needles (or hope it missed).

So perhaps the only answer here is "kill it faster." Hopefully it's simply derived from the lack of understanding of the game. Think back to goblin bombs. Drastic, but preventable. Granted, gobby bombs hurt, but weren't 1 shots.
#15 Sep 30 2010 at 11:53 AM Rating: Decent
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Seeing a pattern here I'd say SE needs to change the opening fight for beginners so that, they too, will be one shotted.

As they die the screen pans up to the sky and the FFXIV logo appears. Welcome to Eorzea!

This way it will prepare virgin players for what's to come :3
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#16 Sep 30 2010 at 11:54 AM Rating: Decent
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I have no idea what goblin bombs are >.> never played FFXI. Only playing this until guild wars 2 comes out. And yeah, we managed to kill 1 before it cast 1k, then the others just started spamming whenever they hit 50%. I was drastically underlevel for it, rank 10 phys 12. He wasnt much better, 13/16.
#17 Sep 30 2010 at 11:54 AM Rating: Default
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LyleVertigo wrote:
Seeing a pattern here I'd say SE needs to change the opening fight for beginners so that, they too, will be one shotted.

As they die the screen pans up to the sky and the FFXIV logo appears. Welcome to Eorzea!

This way it will prepare virgin players for what's to come :3

As I said in another thread... Welcome to Final Craftasy XIV, where 90% of everything will 1 shot you. Except rats. They only 1 shot you 30% of the time. :-P
#18 Sep 30 2010 at 11:58 AM Rating: Good
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SudoNemesis wrote:
LyleVertigo wrote:
Seeing a pattern here I'd say SE needs to change the opening fight for beginners so that, they too, will be one shotted.

As they die the screen pans up to the sky and the FFXIV logo appears. Welcome to Eorzea!

This way it will prepare virgin players for what's to come :3

As I said in another thread... Welcome to Final Craftasy XIV, where 90% of everything will 1 shot you. Except rats. They only 1 shot you 30% of the time. :-P


Well Excuuuuuuuuuuuse me Princess :P
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As I said in another thread... Welcome to Final Craftasy XIV, where 90% of everything will 1 shot you. Except rats. They only 1 shot you 30% of the time. :-P


That was this thread you idiot.
#20 Sep 30 2010 at 11:59 AM Rating: Decent
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lol
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#21 Sep 30 2010 at 11:59 AM Rating: Default
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Doh. I've been up 36 hours. Maybe I should sleep <.<
#22 Sep 30 2010 at 12:09 PM Rating: Decent
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I have no idea what goblin bombs are >.> never played FFXI.


Goblins in FFXI had an AoE bomb that did a lot of damage. You could easily spot it because the goblins had a distinct readying animation before they used their bomb. During the few second of the goblin "casting" the bomb, you could either try to run away from whoever he was targeting or use a stun skill to stop him. The goblin would also sometimes drop the bomb at its feet and kill itself, as seen in the video below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7NRgkhVLNs
#23 Sep 30 2010 at 12:11 PM Rating: Decent
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Oh cool. I get the feeling that theres supposed to be something like that with the cactuars so you can run away, but its buggy right now, because most skills that are instant of enemies just cast, whereas the cactuars "prepare" it first, but its instant prepare--> fire.
#24 Sep 30 2010 at 12:26 PM Rating: Decent
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when you party the con is not based on any player but the combined strength,
(con for the WHOLE party)
so you really shouldnt fight anything yellow or above.

Edited, Sep 30th 2010 11:27am by timmyofalex
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