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#1 Sep 30 2010 at 10:05 AM Rating: Good
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Does it really have to take 10 minutes of intense clicking to clear out your intentory by either selling or discarding items? Do you wish to discard this item? YES. Are you sure you wish to discard this item? YES!! Please confirm that you want to discard this item. OMFG DO IT ALREADY! That's not exactly how it's wrote but it's similar.

Selling is equally as bad, you have to click each individual item and confirm a few boxes and there's stupid pauses involved aswell, it shouldn't take this long to do simple things.

#2 Sep 30 2010 at 10:10 AM Rating: Good
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I agree. What's worse is that I know I must just deal with it, as I'm sure it won't change.

Edited, Sep 30th 2010 12:11pm by Alabazman
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#3 Sep 30 2010 at 10:11 AM Rating: Good
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Perhaps it shouldn't, but it does. Understand the interface is built to be compatible with ps3 as well.

I've never discarded an item so I am unsure of that, but if those safe measures were not in place you would be on here complaining that you accidentally destroyed an item.
#4 Sep 30 2010 at 10:14 AM Rating: Good
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It is slow but you can speed it up significantly by getting as close to a counter / wall and going into first person by clicking 5 on the number-pad. This will reduce the stress on your system as it will not be loading everything around you. This of course is not a viable solution, but it does ease the menu delay.
#5 Sep 30 2010 at 10:14 AM Rating: Decent
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crushgroove wrote:
Perhaps it shouldn't, but it does. Understand the interface is built to be compatible with ps3 as well.

I've never discarded an item so I am unsure of that, but if those safe measures were not in place you would be on here complaining that you accidentally destroyed an item.


Confirmation on destroy is acceptable. But pretty much the norm in recent mmo's is to offer a 'buy back' screen, and let you just right click to sell an item/stack of items. But why would they do that? That's like....stupid n stuff.

Edited, Sep 30th 2010 12:16pm by Alabazman
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#6 Sep 30 2010 at 10:20 AM Rating: Good
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Perhaps it shouldn't, but it does. Understand the interface is built to be compatible with ps3 as well.

I've never discarded an item so I am unsure of that, but if those safe measures were not in place you would be on here complaining that you accidentally destroyed an item.


Have you tried to sell your items? 10 minutes to clear you inventory on a PC or a PS3. I'm not a fan of the "Its designed for the PS3 so things should work like crap" argument.
#7 Sep 30 2010 at 10:26 AM Rating: Good
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Perhaps it shouldn't, but it does. Understand the interface is built to be compatible with ps3 as well.

I've never discarded an item so I am unsure of that, but if those safe measures were not in place you would be on here complaining that you accidentally destroyed an item.


Have you tried to sell your items? 10 minutes to clear you inventory on a PC or a PS3. I'm not a fan of the "Its designed for the PS3 so things should work like crap" argument.


Important part is in bold...

How the heck are you even playing on a PS3? I smell something fishy, and it's not the fresh ocean breeze.



I mean, it's possible that you don't realize the game will speed up soon, or that by the time the PS3 version releases, the game will have stabilized to the point where there's no input lag. Really though, you'd have to be a little daft to not realize such things...
Granted, if it remains like this for more than half a month, then there is something very, very wrong on a fundamental programming level.

Edited, Sep 30th 2010 11:29am by Uryuu
#8 Sep 30 2010 at 10:27 AM Rating: Decent
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Imnotded wrote:
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Perhaps it shouldn't, but it does. Understand the interface is built to be compatible with ps3 as well.

I've never discarded an item so I am unsure of that, but if those safe measures were not in place you would be on here complaining that you accidentally destroyed an item.


Have you tried to sell your items? 10 minutes to clear you inventory on a PC or a PS3. I'm not a fan of the "Its designed for the PS3 so things should work like crap" argument.


If it's taking you 10 minutes to clear your inventory even at 80/80, well, something is wrong.

Here is what I do...

Get back to town, hit up my retainer, I entrust all my crafting supplies onto him, this takes maybe 1-2 minutes.

Go over to a vendor, click the top/first item I want to sell, sell sell sell sell, it auto goes to the next item, this takes at most 3 minutes if I had say, 40 things to sell.

If your inventory is an absolute mess then I could see why it's taking you so long to sell. I keep mine organized with the means I was given.
#9 Sep 30 2010 at 10:28 AM Rating: Decent
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Alabazman wrote:
crushgroove wrote:
Perhaps it shouldn't, but it does. Understand the interface is built to be compatible with ps3 as well.

I've never discarded an item so I am unsure of that, but if those safe measures were not in place you would be on here complaining that you accidentally destroyed an item.


Confirmation on destroy is acceptable. But pretty much the norm in recent mmo's is to offer a 'buy back' screen, and let you just right click to sell an item/stack of items. But why would they do that? That's like....stupid n stuff.
Using fanboy logic, SE wouldn't do that because it is
Alabazman wrote:
the norm in recent MMOs


If another game has that interface feature, SE clearly needs to not do it to stay unique. If you want a screen dedicated to quickly selling off items, go back to WoW/EVE/etc. </fanboy>

I agree that would be an excellent idea to add do the game. Would drastically increase the responsiveness of the UI in that situation to help close the gap between being a part of the game and maneuvering through a game's interface.

crushgroove wrote:
I keep mine organized with the means I was given.
Know what means would help organizing inventory a lot more? A function to organize inventory.

Edited, Sep 30th 2010 11:29am by bsphil
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#10 Sep 30 2010 at 10:33 AM Rating: Good
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Alabazman wrote:
crushgroove wrote:
Perhaps it shouldn't, but it does. Understand the interface is built to be compatible with ps3 as well.

I've never discarded an item so I am unsure of that, but if those safe measures were not in place you would be on here complaining that you accidentally destroyed an item.


Confirmation on destroy is acceptable. But pretty much the norm in recent mmo's is to offer a 'buy back' screen, and let you just right click to sell an item/stack of items. But why would they do that? That's like....stupid n stuff.


Even offline RPGs are getting into that - Mass Effect had a buy back screen, and that game's over three years old.
#11 Sep 30 2010 at 10:36 AM Rating: Default
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Know what means would help organizing inventory a lot more? A function to organize inventory.


You know what means would help this game? A function to delete players accounts who only whine about everything instead of dealing with it until it is fixed.

You are entitled to what you are given, if this does not appease you by all means you have the option to not play. I know of a perfect MMO you could go play that allows you to organize your inventory and sell items fast. I believe you even have the ideal mentality and need for instant gratification to fit in wonderful.

Let me see if I can find a link to that game for you, the name, wow, it eludes me.
#12 Sep 30 2010 at 10:40 AM Rating: Good
I was just joking the other day about this. The Interface with this game is overly cauious.

Do you want to Craft?
Are you sure you want to Craft?
Are you sure that your sure you want to craft?
What do you want to craft?
Are you sure you want to craft that?
Are you sure that your sure that you want to craft that?
Do you want to use this Crystal?
Are you sure you want to use this Crystal?
Are you sure your sure you want to use this crystal?
Are you really ready to craft?
Raise your hand if your sure!

Ok craft...
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#13 Sep 30 2010 at 10:40 AM Rating: Decent
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crushgroove wrote:

You know what means would help this game? A function to delete players accounts who only whine about everything instead of dealing with it until it is fixed.

You are entitled to what you are given, if this does not appease you by all means you have the option to not play. I know of a perfect MMO you could go play that allows you to organize your inventory and sell items fast. I believe you even have the ideal mentality and need for instant gratification to fit in wonderful.

Let me see if I can find a link to that game for you, the name, wow, it eludes me.


I see what you did there.


Edited, Sep 30th 2010 11:41am by Uryuu
#14 Sep 30 2010 at 10:42 AM Rating: Excellent
crushgroove wrote:
bsphil wrote:
Know what means would help organizing inventory a lot more? A function to organize inventory.


You know what means would help this game? A function to delete players accounts who only whine about everything instead of dealing with it until it is fixed.



If everyone just sucked it up and never said anything about problems then nothing would get fixed. Although it may be a pain in the *** to go though post after post of QQing, if they didn't then nothing would get done about any of it.
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#15 Sep 30 2010 at 10:55 AM Rating: Decent
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It took me about 12 mins, to sell about 65 items in inventory to NPC. It then took another 11 minutes to move 78 items from Retainer to my Main. Then another 16 mins to sell those 78 items I moved, I'm not kidding.

I have found, it seems to go a little bit faster if you start from the bottom of inventory and work your way up as opposed to starting from the top.

Edited, Sep 30th 2010 1:00pm by lurex
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#16 Sep 30 2010 at 12:47 PM Rating: Decent
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Uryuu wrote:
Imnotded wrote:
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Perhaps it shouldn't, but it does. Understand the interface is built to be compatible with ps3 as well.

I've never discarded an item so I am unsure of that, but if those safe measures were not in place you would be on here complaining that you accidentally destroyed an item.


Have you tried to sell your items? 10 minutes to clear you inventory on a PC or a PS3. I'm not a fan of the "Its designed for the PS3 so things should work like crap" argument.


Important part is in bold...

How the heck are you even playing on a PS3? I smell something fishy, and it's not the fresh ocean breeze.



I mean, it's possible that you don't realize the game will speed up soon, or that by the time the PS3 version releases, the game will have stabilized to the point where there's no input lag. Really though, you'd have to be a little daft to not realize such things...
Granted, if it remains like this for more than half a month, then there is something very, very wrong on a fundamental programming level.

Edited, Sep 30th 2010 11:29am by Uryuu

Sorry, for some reason I didnt finish that sentence in bold. What I meant to say is "10 minutes to clear your inventory on a PC or PS3 is entirely too long." If that came across like I was playing on a PS3 then, again, I apologize. We should be counting how long it takes to clear our inventory in seconds, not minutes.
#17 Sep 30 2010 at 12:57 PM Rating: Decent
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600 seconds to clear my inventory is too much.
#18 Sep 30 2010 at 12:59 PM Rating: Good
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I think this is my only legitimate complain with this game. I timed that in 15 minutes of straight npc selling, I sold 33 items...that means to clear my inventory takes an entire half hour. And I do a lot of crafting and grinding so it fills up fast
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#19 Sep 30 2010 at 1:04 PM Rating: Decent
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crushgroove wrote:
bsphil wrote:
Know what means would help organizing inventory a lot more? A function to organize inventory.
You know what means would help this game? A function to delete players accounts who only whine about everything instead of dealing with it until it is fixed.
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Q. I have read that there are changes planned to improve the market system, but is there any more specific information available regarding these changes and the direction the market system will take?
A. We have continued to receive copious amounts of feedback regarding changes that players would like to see made to the market system. As a result, we are planning a number of revisions and additions to the system, the first of which are scheduled to be implemented in the next one to two weeks.
Yeah, why bother giving negative feedback? They'll only decide something is worth improving.
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#20 Sep 30 2010 at 1:05 PM Rating: Default
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Hankshmi wrote:
600 seconds to clear my inventory is too much.



When I click on something it should happen......
I hear its the year 2010, and computers are fast.

Edited, Sep 30th 2010 3:07pm by Remidi
#21 Sep 30 2010 at 1:10 PM Rating: Decent
You'll notice that in highly populated servers where there may be minor - major lag that certain items can't will take a while be sold to NPCs. When the server has a reset (I'm on Gysahl) I've noticed that I can NPC EVERYTHING very quickly.

Now I need to test this when the maintenance finishes with NPCs outside of towns and such...and steal a First Sythngot Ward stand > >

Edited, Sep 30th 2010 3:13pm by GuiltyBoomerang

Edited, Sep 30th 2010 3:13pm by GuiltyBoomerang
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#22 Sep 30 2010 at 1:13 PM Rating: Default
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well in FFXI it could take you hours (no kidding) to clear the inventory or organize it or get to the items you needed, going thru several mules, MH, sending items etc etc etc, the option to have your "mules" summoned so you don't have to logoff and on to me is a vast improvement, tbh some of us don't understand the way japanese look at things, this and i belive all SE games have a lot of japanese culture on them, i belive so anyway, like travel time, lots of traveling in most SE or japanese games, fights are really organized to the point where you almost have to play speed-chess to do it, just my point of view.
#23 Sep 30 2010 at 1:48 PM Rating: Decent
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crudo wrote:
well in FFXI it could take you hours (no kidding) to clear the inventory or organize it or get to the items you needed, going thru several mules, MH, sending items etc etc etc, the option to have your "mules" summoned so you don't have to logoff and on to me is a vast improvement, tbh some of us don't understand the way japanese look at things, this and i belive all SE games have a lot of japanese culture on them, i belive so anyway, like travel time, lots of traveling in most SE or japanese games, fights are really organized to the point where you almost have to play speed-chess to do it, just my point of view.

Nobody has even talked about switching to a mule, that is totally different. Moving items between characters =/= selling items to a NPC. Having to walk a long way =/= selling items to a NPC. Culture =/= selling items to a NPC. Fighting mobs =/= selling items to a NPC. Please try and stay on topic, and use more periods. I think my eyes are bleeding.
#24 Sep 30 2010 at 1:50 PM Rating: Good
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when i get home I am going to try the suggestion of getting as close as possible and pressing 5 on the numpad for first person view.
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#25 Sep 30 2010 at 2:04 PM Rating: Good
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The One and Only toohotforu wrote:
I was just joking the other day about this. The Interface with this game is overly cauious.

Do you want to Craft?
Are you sure you want to Craft?
Are you sure that your sure you want to craft?
What do you want to craft?
Are you sure you want to craft that?
Are you sure that your sure that you want to craft that?
Do you want to use this Crystal?
Are you sure you want to use this Crystal?
Are you sure your sure you want to use this crystal?
Are you really ready to craft?
Raise your hand if your sure!

Ok craft...

To be fair, I appreciate that it allows me to select a recipe and then confirm that I didn't pick a wrong item to craft from those ingredients. What could be better is that they could integrate the next window telling me that I need guild support to craft this item in the confirmation of the item I'm crafting, it would save me one window to cancel if I never made that item before.

Also about dropping items, in FFXI you also got extra popups if you wanted to drop a rare/ex item, no different in this game.
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#26 Sep 30 2010 at 2:13 PM Rating: Decent
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I agree - the worst part about this game is how difficult it is to perform a simple task like selling or dropping an item.
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