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#1 Sep 30 2010 at 7:48 PM Rating: Default
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My god ive never seen such a appauling updater in my life the thing does nt work i used to play champions-online and it worked just fine i used to be able to get around 900kbps for a patch update with this updater it peaks around 35kbps now i cant even connect to the ******* thing ive currently been waiting 15 mins for it to start a download that i stopped and has nt worked since im feud up i emialed the clowns that make the game and dont expect a speedy response i mean honestly how ******* hard is it to make a updater that works for people i see its a big issue i tried the port fowarding ******** im not sure if i did it correctly and that did nt work .actually just as i speak the download started working at a blistering 9.5kbps what a ******* joke can anyone give some useful advice and simply not blaster the words port fowarding around like everyone should be ale to to it and actually explain how to do it im not a computer tech guy.it staggers me something like this is nt tested before the games is released i mean for real how the **** are people meant to play the **** game if they cant download a patch!!!!!
#2 Sep 30 2010 at 7:55 PM Rating: Default
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A very helpful "education" thread is on these very forums that tells you how to fix this.

This is not the fault of SE as the downloader works ok for those of us that have forwarded the relevant ports. Dont blame SE for your hardware setup.

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#3 Sep 30 2010 at 7:57 PM Rating: Default
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HallieXIV wrote:
A very helpful "education" thread is on these very forums that tells you how to fix this.

This is not the fault of SE as the downloader works ok for those of us that have forwarded the relevant ports. Dont blame SE for your hardware setup.



LOL

So many ******* fanbois running around the FF forums. Yes, it is SE's fault for releasing a ****** updated and an unfinished game. For the love of god stop defending their 1,000 mistakes.
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#4 Sep 30 2010 at 7:58 PM Rating: Default
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god i cant even download the ******* patch now it just will not start lmao this is some ******* funny **** right here
#5 Sep 30 2010 at 7:59 PM Rating: Default
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listen i should nt have to foward ports ive never had to do it before why the **** should i have to do it now??its a development mistake
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If you read my thread and try to follow it it should help you out. You can pm me if you have questions on the steps. I have provided a link there that will take you to instructions for different equipment on how to forward the ports. I know you don't like this port forward thing but it is all I would know to tell you to try. It is fairly simple once you understand what you are trying to do. It does take a second to understand what you are trying to do tho. If you run into a wall feel free to reply to my post or pm me with what you think the problem is and maybe I can help you through it. there are a lot of equipment types so the odds of me actually knowing the steps for your equipment off the top of my head is slim, but it could happen. I would have to go to the port forward site more than likely and follow the same instructions you would see and relay them to you.
#7 Sep 30 2010 at 8:06 PM Rating: Decent
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Déjà vu lol. Most these issues have been covered since the CE release. Solutions for most problems are available searching this forum. Let's not have another week of this mess again. The game is what it is. If you want to play fix the problems. If not, roll out till it is totally plug and play and there are no problems left for you to have.(which will never happen tbh)
#8 Sep 30 2010 at 8:08 PM Rating: Decent
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its stopping and starting all the time.i logged into my router and went to the port fowarding section i have a dynalink RTA1320 i enter these vaules
Application Name External Packet Internal Host Delete
IP Address Protocol Port IP Address Port
ff ports ALL TCP 54992 - 55551 192.168.1.1 54992 - 55551
ff ports ALL UDP 55296 - 55551 192.168.1.1 55296 - 55551

is this correct
#9 Sep 30 2010 at 8:09 PM Rating: Decent
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JarL05 wrote:
HallieXIV wrote:
A very helpful "education" thread is on these very forums that tells you how to fix this.

This is not the fault of SE as the downloader works ok for those of us that have forwarded the relevant ports. Dont blame SE for your hardware setup.



LOL

So many @#%^ing fanbois running around the FF forums. Yes, it is SE's fault for releasing a sh*tty updated and an unfinished game. For the love of god stop defending their 1,000 mistakes.


Honestly, I used to have your problem, then i followed the thread and opened ports (actually i did this during beta) and now I update at very fast speed. It is not SE's fault that you are completely ignorant. They designed the game for people who can follow simple instructions. If you cant, maybe you should learn to read (and write while you are at it) and take the very kind advice provided by Zoltanrs.

Not a fanboi - just a player whose updater runs very, very fast. Actaully I retract my advice, please ignore me. I really dont want idiots like you playing teh game so am happy for you to rage quit because you cant follow simple instructions.
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#10 Sep 30 2010 at 8:10 PM Rating: Decent
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zoltanrs wrote:
Déjà vu lol. Most these issues have been covered since the CE release. Solutions for most problems are available searching this forum. Let's not have another week of this mess again. The game is what it is. If you want to play fix the problems. If not, roll out till it is totally plug and play and there are no problems left for you to have.(which will never happen tbh)


Why are people not entitled to complain? Why should people shelve a game that they have waited years to play? Why should people have to wait to play a game that they paid 80+ dollars for? Seriously, the fanboi attitude is sickening here. SE has made so many mistakes, stop defending them. Let people complain.

How about this - if you don't like to read complaints then don't read the forums until SE fixes their game.

Edited, Sep 30th 2010 10:11pm by JarL05
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JarL05 wrote:
zoltanrs wrote:
Déjà vu lol. Most these issues have been covered since the CE release. Solutions for most problems are available searching this forum. Let's not have another week of this mess again. The game is what it is. If you want to play fix the problems. If not, roll out till it is totally plug and play and there are no problems left for you to have.(which will never happen tbh)


Why are people not entitled to complain? Why should people shelve a game that they have waited years to play? Why should people have to wait to play a game that they paid 80+ dollars for? Seriously, the fanboi attitude is sickening here. SE has made so many mistakes, stop defending them. Let people complain.

How about this - if you don't like to read complaints then don't read the forums until SE fixes their game.

Edited, Sep 30th 2010 10:11pm by JarL05


There is nothing broken here that requires fixing and no problem with the downloader. People can complain who have something to complain about. Complaining about this is the same as complaining because of your own ignorance and inability to read. It is YOUR HARDWARE SETUP that is the problem. it is the SETTINGS ON YOUR ROUTER that is the problem. How can you blame SE for this?
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#12 Sep 30 2010 at 8:16 PM Rating: Decent
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can you pleas ehelp me i think i folloeed the instrcutions i have entered these stats in my port fowarding section in my router
Application Name External Packet Internal Host
IP Address Protocol Port IP Address Port
ff ports ALL TCP 54992 - 55551 192.168.1.1 54992 - 55551
ff ports ALL UDP 55296 - 55551 192.168.1.1 55296 - 55551
#13 Sep 30 2010 at 8:16 PM Rating: Decent
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zoltanrs wrote:
There is nothing broken here that requires fixing and no problem with the downloader. People can complain who have something to complain about. Complaining about this is the same as complaining because of your own ignorance and inability to read. It is YOUR HARDWARE SETUP that is the problem. it is the SETTINGS ON YOUR ROUTER that is the problem. How can you blame SE for this?


Yes I can, 99.9% of games have a working tech support webpage that will explain what the problem is and generally direct players to the proper information to fix the problem. The simple fact that players must rely on other players and even third party programs (hardware mouse and windower in beta) to get the game functioning is a serious problem.

Edited, Sep 30th 2010 10:18pm by JarL05
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JarL05 wrote:
zoltanrs wrote:
Déjà vu lol. Most these issues have been covered since the CE release. Solutions for most problems are available searching this forum. Let's not have another week of this mess again. The game is what it is. If you want to play fix the problems. If not, roll out till it is totally plug and play and there are no problems left for you to have.(which will never happen tbh)


Why are people not entitled to complain? Why should people shelve a game that they have waited years to play? Why should people have to wait to play a game that they paid 80+ dollars for? Seriously, the fanboi attitude is sickening here. SE has made so many mistakes, stop defending them. Let people complain.

How about this - if you don't like to read complaints then don't read the forums until SE fixes their game.

Edited, Sep 30th 2010 10:11pm by JarL05


Simply put, because it's already been done. If you want to play fanboi's and injuns I guess you're entitled to do so although it won't get you anywhere. If you want to stop throwing a temper tantrum and let people help you out then hopefully we'll get you running as good as can be done right now. I'm not a fanboi actually, this game has problems. So does every game just out of beta. I simply know how to deal with some of them. If you want to make the 150th post about the exact same problem you should probably copy pasta it and send it to square instead of clogging up the forums.
#15 Sep 30 2010 at 8:20 PM Rating: Decent
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zoltanrs wrote:
Simply put, because it's already been done. If you want to play fanboi's and injuns I guess you're entitled to do so although it won't get you anywhere. If you want to stop throwing a temper tantrum and let people help you out then hopefully we'll get you running as good as can be done right now. I'm not a fanboi actually, this game has problems. So does every game just out of beta. I simply know how to deal with some of them. If you want to make the 150th post about the exact same problem you should probably copy pasta it and send it to square instead of clogging up the forums.


I'm not the one asking for help kiddo. Read the thread before you respond.
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#16 Sep 30 2010 at 8:20 PM Rating: Decent
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ok its downloading for like a few seconds then stopping someone help me i tried the port fowarding i think i set it up correctly when it is dowloading it said it was at about 600kbps
#17 Sep 30 2010 at 8:21 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm having the same problem to man, I feel your pain. In fact, there are several other players having the same problem.

But just so you know, try reading the dudes ''education' thread a few posts down. Its pretty helpful, but a little confusing to. Give it a try.
#18 Sep 30 2010 at 8:22 PM Rating: Good
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sabatonnz wrote:
can you pleas ehelp me i think i folloeed the instrcutions i have entered these stats in my port fowarding section in my router
Application Name External Packet Internal Host
IP Address Protocol Port IP Address Port
ff ports ALL TCP 54992 - 55551 192.168.1.1 54992 - 55551
ff ports ALL UDP 55296 - 55551 192.168.1.1 55296 - 55551



You'll want to forward the ports to the IP address of your computer. I think that you have used the ip address of the router(just a guess based off typical setups) if 192.168.1.1 is your computer you re set if not change it to the comp IP
#19 Sep 30 2010 at 8:23 PM Rating: Good
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well i think i have the ports set up correctly but still no success
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JarL05 wrote:
zoltanrs wrote:
There is nothing broken here that requires fixing and no problem with the downloader. People can complain who have something to complain about. Complaining about this is the same as complaining because of your own ignorance and inability to read. It is YOUR HARDWARE SETUP that is the problem. it is the SETTINGS ON YOUR ROUTER that is the problem. How can you blame SE for this?


Yes I can, 99.9% of games have a working tech support webpage that will explain what the problem is and generally direct players to the proper information to fix the problem. The simple fact that players must rely on other players and even third party programs (hardware mouse and windower in beta) to get the game functioning is a serious problem.

Edited, Sep 30th 2010 10:18pm by JarL05


In the excellent spirit of community the answer has been provided for you on these very boards - why are you still complaining unless it is for the sake of complaining.

Also, I cant believe that you are saying there was a problem with not having a HW mouse in beta - it was a beta!!!!! This was fixed for retail release so why even mention it. There were very good development reasons why there was no HW mouse in beta which I am not even going to try to explain to you.
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#21 Sep 30 2010 at 8:23 PM Rating: Good
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People needs to understand that the updater is using a torrent client. As with any torrent application, if you want faster downloads you have to open up ports if you are behind a router, even utorrent. Also please keep in mind that your Anti-virus may blcok UPnP automatically. I have Norton Internet Security 2010 and it blocks UPnP automatically, even though it is enabled by default in Windows 7.

Just open the ports and set the correct firewall rules and you should be getting a few local and remote connections with 800+ kbps downloads speeds.

If you really are desperate and lazy, just plug your computer directly into your modem, bypassing the router and disable your firewalls. Do this at your own risk.
#22 Sep 30 2010 at 8:25 PM Rating: Decent
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JarL05 wrote:
HallieXIV wrote:
A very helpful "education" thread is on these very forums that tells you how to fix this.

This is not the fault of SE as the downloader works ok for those of us that have forwarded the relevant ports. Dont blame SE for your hardware setup.



LOL

So many @#%^ing fanbois running around the FF forums. Yes, it is SE's fault for releasing a sh*tty updated and an unfinished game. For the love of god stop defending their 1,000 mistakes.


This. I'm so sick of people blaming everyone except the dumb asses that made this crap...I can not see the point in this game...it feels like Cafters Online...What a joke...
#23zoltanrs, Posted: Sep 30 2010 at 8:25 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Actually I just looked past that to the cause of your tear filled angst. I got way too much grey hair to be a kiddo tho.
#24 Sep 30 2010 at 8:26 PM Rating: Default
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Peteribit wrote:
JarL05 wrote:
HallieXIV wrote:
A very helpful "education" thread is on these very forums that tells you how to fix this.

This is not the fault of SE as the downloader works ok for those of us that have forwarded the relevant ports. Dont blame SE for your hardware setup.



LOL

So many @#%^ing fanbois running around the FF forums. Yes, it is SE's fault for releasing a sh*tty updated and an unfinished game. For the love of god stop defending their 1,000 mistakes.


This. I'm so sick of people blaming everyone except the dumb asses that made this crap...I can not see the point in this game...it feels like Cafters Online...What a joke...


Sock puppet?
#25 Sep 30 2010 at 8:30 PM Rating: Default
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pintsizetaru wrote:
Peteribit wrote:
JarL05 wrote:
HallieXIV wrote:
A very helpful "education" thread is on these very forums that tells you how to fix this.

This is not the fault of SE as the downloader works ok for those of us that have forwarded the relevant ports. Dont blame SE for your hardware setup.



LOL

So many @#%^ing fanbois running around the FF forums. Yes, it is SE's fault for releasing a sh*tty updated and an unfinished game. For the love of god stop defending their 1,000 mistakes.


This. I'm so sick of people blaming everyone except the dumb asses that made this crap...I can not see the point in this game...it feels like Cafters Online...What a joke...


Sock puppet?


Agreed - how many accounts does one individual want. I suppose it is nice to have someone else who cant read, write or follow simple instructions though (even if it is himself)
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#26 Sep 30 2010 at 8:31 PM Rating: Good
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sabatonnz wrote:
well i think i have the ports set up correctly but still no success


Your next step would be to open up ports in your firewalls and/or antivirus if it has a firewall. if you're in doubt turn them off and see if it works then. If so it is still causing a problem.

If your router or modem has a firewall you might try toggling them off as well and seeing what happens. My modem has a firewall that even tho ports are supposed to be bypassing it they do not. I have to turn it off and forward to get it to do right. Always turn off if you're in doubt. You can go back and fix the problem once you know what it is.
#27 Sep 30 2010 at 8:33 PM Rating: Decent
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ok i changed the ip address to my computer ip but it will not download it only starts downloading for like 3 seconds then stops but the speed was at about 300 its always uploading its at about 30kbps i dont know what is going on im not a computer expert
#28 Sep 30 2010 at 8:36 PM Rating: Decent
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ok i clicked on my firewall tab and i Disabled IP Filtering thats the only option there i also tried to let it allow traffic from those ports that did nt work.listen its just not even downloading the upload is always working


Edited, Sep 30th 2010 10:36pm by sabatonnz
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Also, I cant believe that you are saying there was a problem with not having a HW mouse in beta - it was a beta!!!!! This was fixed for retail release so why even mention it. There were very good development reasons why there was no HW mouse in beta which I am not even going to try to explain to you.


/facepalm

Why do you fail at reading? I was using the hardware mouse as an example of things that the community had to fix. Name one other modern game that doesn't utilize a hardware mouse? And honestly, they had no intention of implementing a hardware mouse until the community COMPLAINED about it. Sort of gone full circle here... complaints lead to progress. Yet these forums jump on people for complaining about a game that has more faults than goods. Even if the complaints are repeated over-and-over the complaints are warranted.
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#30 Sep 30 2010 at 8:37 PM Rating: Good
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There were very good development reasons why there was no HW mouse in beta which I am not even going to try to explain to you.
Actually, I'd love to hear this.
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#31 Sep 30 2010 at 8:38 PM Rating: Excellent
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It is YOUR HARDWARE SETUP that is the problem. it is the SETTINGS ON YOUR ROUTER that is the problem. How can you blame SE for this?


Sundi's f*ckin' wit' mah router, bro!
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#32 Sep 30 2010 at 8:48 PM Rating: Decent
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ok i clicked on my firewall tab and i Disabled IP Filtering thats the only option there i also tried to let it allow traffic from those ports that did nt work.listen its just not even downloading the upload is always working


Edited, Sep 30th 2010 10:36pm by sabatonnz


Your upload will just aboiut always work as long as you have an internet connection. Handy huh lol.

Try disabling/turning off the firewalls and see what that does. Beyond that a program like utorrent will let you downlaod what you need if the SE downloader just refuses to work. The catch is that it still requires ports open to work. The upside is it gives you a nice big red picture to tell you that your network isn't open. So at least you would know when you had fixed it. The other thing is that bit torrents may take a few minutes to ramp up because you have to connect to peers and clear through the queues to download from the different sources. This can happen as early as 10 seconds or take 5 minutes depending on the situation.
#33 Sep 30 2010 at 8:49 PM Rating: Default
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i tried ******* fowarding the **** ******* ports and disabling my ******* firewall know its not even ******* downloading on a regular basis it downloadss for like 3 seconds at a good speed about 300 kbps and up then stops for like 5 mins lmao.im ******* pulling out my hair here this is a complete and utter joke what a waste of 90 dollars this ******* piece of **** its going straight back to the shop tomorrow i think its taken 2 hours now to go from 29 percent to 29.3 percent lol
#34 Sep 30 2010 at 9:08 PM Rating: Default
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well im using utorrent still ****** download speeds around 100kbps lmao what a ******* debacle this is
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I would imagine there are a blue million leeches on utorrent right this minute and not that many seeders. If your network is reading green then that won't be the problem if not still a bit of problem there. Utorrent actually takes more setting up than the SE patcher but it works better out of the box typically. There are literally thousands of sites with different ways to maximize utorrent speed. 0 of them help if it's chocked full of leechers tho.

Edited, Sep 30th 2010 11:19pm by zoltanrs
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I built a new PC, re-installed, and downloaded (about an hour ago, took maybe 20-30 min?), and was playing within about a 2-3 hour span. Including running out to buy Win7.

No downloading issues at all.

Spend less time net-raging and more time net-fixing, since you are obviously the weakest link.

Old game show references ftw

Edited, Sep 30th 2010 8:46pm by FlixEffect
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i tried @#%^ing fowarding the **** @#%^ing ports


Well keep fuckin' tryin' bro! This is very useful general knowledge you are learning. It can be applied to anything else that interacts with the internet via your home network. That pain your may be feeling in your skull is just the out of shape neurons firing off. It's nothing to be concerned about. In fact you'll eventually begin to find it somewhat pleasurable.
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#38 Sep 30 2010 at 10:10 PM Rating: Default
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im sure i followed the port fowarding steps correctly and disabled the firewall and still no results ive given up the ******* fight with the patch dowanloader utorrent is working im at 75% with a 423mb file its pain but im going to play this ******* game surely they must be looking at fixing the patch downloader like i said i never had any issues with the champions online patch downloader i was getting over 500kbps on a regular basis.i remember a while back with company of heroes they had there patchs as utorrent files but alot of people were getting poor speeds and some guy found a work around where you could simply download it as a http file it worked great got awesone download speeds
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JarL05 wrote:
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Also, I cant believe that you are saying there was a problem with not having a HW mouse in beta - it was a beta!!!!! This was fixed for retail release so why even mention it. There were very good development reasons why there was no HW mouse in beta which I am not even going to try to explain to you.


/facepalm

Why do you fail at reading? I was using the hardware mouse as an example of things that the community had to fix. Name one other modern game that doesn't utilize a hardware mouse? And honestly, they had no intention of implementing a hardware mouse until the community COMPLAINED about it. Sort of gone full circle here... complaints lead to progress. Yet these forums jump on people for complaining about a game that has more faults than goods. Even if the complaints are repeated over-and-over the complaints are warranted.


/facepalm - the community never had to fix it, the game was never going to be released without a hardware mouse. The reason there was no HW mouse in beta was that SE wanted to collect technical data about the way the the player interfaces with teh game, this is easier with a server side mouse.

The community had absolutely nothing to do with it.
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I built a new PC, re-installed, and downloaded (about an hour ago, took maybe 20-30 min?), and was playing within about a 2-3 hour span. Including running out to buy Win7.

No downloading issues at all.

Spend less time net-raging and more time net-fixing, since you are obviously the weakest link.

Old game show references ftw

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#41 Sep 30 2010 at 10:21 PM Rating: Decent
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HallieXIV wrote:
/facepalm - the community never had to fix it, the game was never going to be released without a hardware mouse. The reason there was no HW mouse in beta was that SE wanted to collect technical data about the way the the player interfaces with teh game, this is easier with a server side mouse.

The community had absolutely nothing to do with it.


LOL

Is that why the SE devs stated, in an interview, that hardware mouse would NOT be implemented? Is that why the hardware mouse is an option that you can choose to enable? You need to get your facts straight. The only reason that the hardware mouse made it into release was due to the community uproar over the lack of one.

Edit: In fact, their reason for sticking with the software mouse was actually to help curb third party programs (bots) from functioning. Your facts are all screwed up.


Edited, Oct 1st 2010 12:22am by JarL05
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JarL05 wrote:
HallieXIV wrote:
/facepalm - the community never had to fix it, the game was never going to be released without a hardware mouse. The reason there was no HW mouse in beta was that SE wanted to collect technical data about the way the the player interfaces with teh game, this is easier with a server side mouse.

The community had absolutely nothing to do with it.


LOL

Is that why the SE devs stated, in an interview, that hardware mouse would NOT be implemented? Is that why the hardware mouse is an option that you can choose to enable? You need to get your facts straight. The only reason that the hardware mouse made it into release was due to the community uproar over the lack of one.

Edit: In fact, their reason for sticking with the software mouse was actually to help curb third party programs (bots) from functioning. Your facts are all screwed up.


Edited, Oct 1st 2010 12:22am by JarL05


Your comment was actually a mistranslation from a Japanese interview with a video game magazine. According to SE, the Japanese translation of our words "hardware mouse" was not understood. It was always intended for official launch.

As to reasons - you are also correct. The explanation provided by SE did indeed include botting, but that is because of the capability of the "software" mouse to better monitor such programs. These reasons are all linked and pretty well explained to our fellow Japanese gamers. The problem is that much of this is either not translated or mistranslated.
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#43 Sep 30 2010 at 10:30 PM Rating: Good
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Concerning the mouse function. There is an obviously lag currently even with the improvements towards the mouse; in particular it seems that the software mouse speed is tied to the FPS on your computer -- so if you have less FPS, then the mouse is laggier. Can we expect an implementation of hardware mouse prior to release?

We're aware of it and hardware mouse is something we're still looking into currently. At the moment we dont have any plans for the hardware mouse but will continue to improve the situation before the game is out and also after.


I don't buy the "mistranslation" for a heartbeat. If you want to show proof of that, be my guest. Until then, it is just heresay.
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Concerning the mouse function. There is an obviously lag currently even with the improvements towards the mouse; in particular it seems that the software mouse speed is tied to the FPS on your computer -- so if you have less FPS, then the mouse is laggier. Can we expect an implementation of hardware mouse prior to release?

We're aware of it and hardware mouse is something we're still looking into currently. At the moment we dont have any plans for the hardware mouse but will continue to improve the situation before the game is out and also after.


I don't buy the "mistranslation" for a heartbeat. If you want to show proof of that, be my guest. Until then, it is just heresay.


I will see if I have the article on my home computer web history when I get home. If I can find, I will post and put up the Japanese for translation. Perhaps if an independent person translates I will be able to prove my point. Otherwise, thats fine, it matters not whether you believe me or not. You are obviously the source of all truth.

I recommend that everyone interested in Japanese games gets themselves and person fluent in Japanese to live in their house.

Edited, Oct 1st 2010 12:40am by HallieXIV
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#45 Sep 30 2010 at 10:39 PM Rating: Default
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ok i downloaded that page now what folder to i put it in can someone help?
#46 Sep 30 2010 at 10:49 PM Rating: Decent
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Yeah about that hardware mouse being included into the game, It was always gonna be in it.
Case in point the hardware mouse in the beta that the community used was possible because
in the game there is a boolean for hardware mouse that was set to false and no way to make it
true. The only thing the program did was set it to true. The people that created it
even said that. So hardware mouse wasin the beta but we could never access it. So
they were gonna put the hardware mouse in from the start because if the game already had that
capability why not implement it. With the software mouse they can track were mouse goes and
learn how the players play and ways to improve the UI.

Edited, Oct 1st 2010 12:51am by kiddster58
#47 Oct 01 2010 at 12:48 AM Rating: Default
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surely the developer has been flooded with support tickets about this patch update issue yet not one ******* solution is posted on there site its amazing people are paying good money for this game and cant ******* play it yet these ******* morons dont do a thing about it im suck of game developers releasing games that dont work .im that desperate i might buy a xbox 360 to avoid the non stop ******** that comes with pc gaming assassins creed 2 was the last game with major issues get this i could nt play the game with quadcore processing i had to use 2 processors i mean how the **** does something like that slip threw the cracks when a games tested ???honestly dont they ******* tests **** like this out before they release
#48 Oct 01 2010 at 12:54 AM Rating: Default
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man i might have to call the developers on the phone to sort this issue each time i look at the download speed i get more ****** off i cant believe i wasted 90 dollars on this game i knew i should have kept playing champions online
#49 Oct 01 2010 at 3:18 AM Rating: Good
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The updater is a horror, the game is beautiful, stick with it.

I found that for the first 20mins I would be around 8b/s then after 35kb/s dl speed. Best to leave it on overnight. If it times out restart and it will pick up from where it left off.

I did have some luck updating my laptop using bitorrent and copying the patch files to the correct folder using the instructions here:

http://ffxiv.zam.com/forum.html?game=268&mid=1285185366169859554&page=1

For some reason this wouldn't cut it on my desktop. I did notice two torrent files in the metadata folder instead of one. After wasting 3hrs trying to manually patch I just used the SE updater and let it run its course, was patched by morning.

I did my patches before the 30th, that may have some bearing...?

How long have you just let the updater run, after you did your Port Forwarding before closing it?
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#50 Oct 01 2010 at 4:04 AM Rating: Good
sabatonnz wrote:
man i might have to call the developers on the phone to sort this issue each time i look at the download speed i get more ****** off i cant believe i wasted 90 dollars on this game i knew i should have kept playing champions online


Or call your ISP, since they're the ones that can fix your problem since you obviously can't. If you call SE, they'll likely just tell you to call your ISP.

Seriously though, it's really NOT SEs fault that you can't download fast. It's an easily fixable hardware issue.

Not SEs fault. Easily fixable.

Nope, still not SEs fault. Yep, still an easy fix
#51 Oct 01 2010 at 4:08 AM Rating: Good
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I am afraid I am going to take sabat's side.. it is SE's fault.

hardware setup? most tom **** or harry's laptops are pre built with nothing fancy no port changes etc etc.

I my self have had trouble with patch 1 when it came to SE. Since I manually downloaded that one patch the updater has worked fine and no problems. How is that down to my PC? And it updates fast and again no troubles.

People sit there saying its the firewalls, I dont have any. I stuck it directly in to the modem and my service provider does not block anything either. If I was at work I expect nothing to work because we are behind about 5 firewalls and peer2peer/games ports are blocked. As well as a bunch of others.

At home I turned off the virus scanner completely and still had issues with Patch1. And I never have had issues with any online gaming before. And No FFXIV is not the first or close to it ;) I understand peoples frustrations but there are people who dont have a clue about IT and they will struggle to know what a "port" is!

What people dont get is this is something that should not exist. When you buy a game you expect it to work. You some times get a message "please disable any virus protection during the installation process" or "Please close any programs" but anything else really shouldnt be happenening and the fact it is really is a failure on SE's part. I Played STO/FFXI/CS/DOD (before steam and back in the WONID? and during steam) also some other games on steam and other online games and never had this trouble. Same service provider, same OS and the only thing that has changed is windows updates and virus scanner version.
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