If you haven't even played the game past beta then what gives you any ethos here? I mean you're waiting for the problems to be fixed like the rest of us. But there is still a lot of fun to be enjoyed from this game. A lot more fun that being a beacon of negative comments here.
Fun for you, maybe. I played the game in the beta and so far most people have reported only two things changing, the UI being more responsive, and the hardware mouse (which I hacked to enable in the beta anyway). That's not going to change the fact that the game isn't fun for me to play in the state it's in. So rather than drop some money on it now and sit around not playing and waiting for some of the major easy fixes to get implemented, I'm just going to not play. Until then I'm waiting to see when that's going to actually happen. Despite what most people apparently think, I DO want to play the game, but I want to enjoy it too.
You seem to be under the false impression that people who don't like the game either are mistaken and SHOULD be liking the game, or will NEVER like the game and therefore should just leave.
Indeed. If only some of you sheeple could do the same.
lolwut? How exactly am I one of the 'sheeple' for going against your recommendation to just buy the game and play it? Edited, Oct 1st 2010 2:31pm by bsphil
Actually I think it was more along the lines of, what do you hope to accomplish by posting dozens of negative complaints every day? I've noticed the same, though I don't see you as an enemy. Quite possibly neither does he/she.
It's ok not to like the game. You're justified. So are people who do like it. But flooding the forums with negativity does have it's consequences on the community, emotionally and mathematically. If you have hope for the game, focus on that. It seems right now your purpose is to destroy it.
Because there's a chance devs or community managers glance at these forums every once in awhile, if they don't see any threads complaining about the game, they'll assume people are cool with it, well people are not cool with it, and the more hate threads that are on the forums, the more likely it is one of these devs might give it a glance and notice just how many people are in disapproval.
You incorrectly assume that the only way to report a problem in the game is to complain until you and everyone else around you is miserable.
Let's say you have a house, and you haven't mowed the lawn in a while and your front step really needs to be painted, but unfortunately, the disrepair of your home is driving property values down for your neighbors.
20 neighbors come over to you and scream and yell and insult you.
20 other neighbors invite you to a street party, get to know you, feed you, and are generally pleasant, but request that you please paint your front porch.
Which of those things are you likely to do first?
I'm not saying he shouldn't post problems about the game. I'm saying he's doing himself, and everyone around him, a great disservice by being repeatedly negative and almost altogether nonconstructive, and so is everyone else who approaches these issues in the same way.
There are issues with the game. I don't think that this game, or any other paid MMO should be released with more than typos, and occasional content errors. Some things just get missed in the mass of it all, and having 10 years experience as a game designer/developer hobbyist myself, I can say that you'll never find all the bugs until it's been thoroughly play tested. But! This is the world we live in. This is how the business is. Issues absolutely have to be reported in order to get fixed. But they're not going to fix things any faster because people negative and insulting as opposed to tolerant and constructive. The only real exception to this is when their mistakes start to hit their pocket books, at that shows up in their accounting statements, not on a forum. Developers read forums, not executives. At the end of the day the devs are going to focus things based on what they feel the game needs most at the time. Player input does matter, but they have planned this game to a science. They need our perspectives and input, but they know many times more about this game, and how it will likely turn out than the vast majority of us. Will it be the most popular game on the market? Probably not. But what else can you do? You can make a WoW clone, and feed off WoWs popularity... and by the way, which WoW clone has had any success that didn't ride the coat tails of a popular theme, such as lord of the rings or star wars? Do you think anyone would play a wow clone in a little known theme unless they were a cult fan? No, they'd just play WoW.
SE HAS to break the mold to be successful in this game. FFXI is a cult theme. Those who want WoW, should stick with WoW, or play LotR or Star Wars: The Old Republic when that comes out if they are more into one of those themes. Those that like FFXI should keep playing that. I am sure development is not going to stop on that game for a good time yet, especially if people are still playing it. Those who want to try something new, then you are in the right place.
At the end of the day feedback is feedback. The only thing that matters is that the devs receive it. If 100 people think something is a problem, they are going to fix it, no matter how the feedback is presented.
And as I said, if you want to leave the game, you can make that statement, and be equally heard whether you spout 6 weeks of hate-posts on the forums or not. The ones who make those decisions only read a number on an accounting statement.
So really, the presentation of the message only affects the community. You can either perpetuate feelings of frustration, anger, intolerance, etc, or you can make a personal decision to not do so, and express your concerns in a way that will not incite others to anger and frustration as well.
And by the way, it is communities that kill games, not the devs. Star Wars Galaxies was killed on its forums by haters. Had the haters simply left the game, and not spread their anger and hate, there would still be tens of thousands, if not many more people genuinely enjoy that game right now. Just as an example.
So yes, I again repeat. If he has hope for the game, focus on that. Right now it seems like he's trying to destroy it. Edited, Oct 1st 2010 5:35pm by charityneverfaileth