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#1 Oct 01 2010 at 3:33 PM Rating: Good
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I know talking bad about FF14 is forbidden on these forums, but I was very hyped to play this game and even took a couple days off work when it was first released. Honestly it's not a terrible game, but it needs time to be refined just as FFXI was when it was first released. I see a lot of potential but at the moment I feel as if I'm wasting my time playing this.

I have about 5 hours to play when I get home from work and before I have to go to bed. The other day I logged in and started collecting my new leves and went off to craft. I just felt so horribly bored while grinding out these localleves. I was thinking to myself while crafting that I had a better time at work doing a take off, which is literally doing a count as to how many parts appear on a blueprint.

I don't know what it is, FF14 is missing something though and feels too much like work. I know MMOs aren't supposed to be carebearish and make everything easy for you a-la WoW style, and I know MMOs are designed literally to suck up time, but FFXIV feels like it goes out of it's way to waste your time. I suppose it the UI and menu layout that really does it for me. Everything is so clunky and has unnecessary steps. On top of that, socializing is pretty much discouraged while you craft since it continues to close out the chat box. Yes, I know you can reopen the chat and hit the up arrow to resume your typing but it's still lame.

The worst part of this all, and I was guilty of this until last night when I had enough, is that I kept defending the game and doing my absolute best to put on a face that I was enjoying it. Friends would ask me how it was and I'd tell them how much I was loving it, etc. I don't know why I did that, I guess I just want FF14 to succeed and didn't want to talk badly about it.

tl;dr: Is anyone else disappointed by this game but afraid to admit it to themselves or others?
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#3 Oct 01 2010 at 3:36 PM Rating: Good
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Kind of the other way around for me. I feel like I'm forcing myself to enjoy real life. FFXIV is my crack.
#4 Oct 01 2010 at 3:39 PM Rating: Good
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I'm envious of you guys, I really am. I just don't see the point to this game. In FFXI I loved so many different things, I struggle to find one in this game aside from the graphics. While FFXI was a lot of grinding, it had a good amount of content to it and fun, challenging, and interesting rank missions to do along the way. The main story line is semi-interesting at best for Gridania so far up to the rank 20 quest, it's not challenging in the least and really not all that fun. So I have that to look forward to after grinding out 5 or 10 levels, and that's pretty much it.
#5 Oct 01 2010 at 3:39 PM Rating: Good
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I love the game so much, I went to gamestop when it opened, bought the game, and I still don't have my new desktop for the game. I hug the case from time to time.
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I agree completely with the original post. I enjoy some things about the game like killing in Coerthas with my ls mates the other night, but even that was messed up as we weren't all getting experience. The menus are horrible and everything from speaking to npcs, selling and buying from merchants, and crafting is all so terribly slow and time consuming. I fail to see an improvement in this game from FFXI and actually prefer the feel of FFXI completely over this game. I will still play hoping for the improvements, but the menu system has to change it is so frustrating, is there a need to have to hit 5 buttons to speak to an npc?
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#7 Oct 01 2010 at 3:50 PM Rating: Good
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I play now knowing at one point the game will have a huge turning point, at that point I can say, I stuck with it from the beginning and knew it'd happen. I'm not forcing myself to do anything, I actually enjoy the game too, but it's just even more exciting knowing the best is yet to come though.
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#8 Oct 01 2010 at 3:50 PM Rating: Good
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I definitely feel as if I am forcing myself to play it, but with a huge amount of optimism that they will fix the issues.
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#9 Oct 01 2010 at 3:54 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'm getting to this point now. I'm not part of a large or organized LS, and I cannot for the life of me get any gear or materials to advance anything. The one and only thing that's ruining my game experience is the bazaar system; I can't find anything to buy and I can't sell anything.
#10 Oct 01 2010 at 4:06 PM Rating: Excellent
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I definitely feel as if I am forcing myself to play it, but with a huge amount of optimism that they will fix the issues.


Enjoying it an awful lot at the moment, but with a side helping of this.
#11 Oct 01 2010 at 4:12 PM Rating: Good
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I do a bit.

It feels like this game has no direction.
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I'm almost the same way.

I really am getting into the story and I like my character. But I really need a linkshell and need to group more.

I do think one of the problems is that SE hit the wrong middle. By that I mean it isn't as quick as WoW, yet it isn't as overtly social as FFXI. So there's bigger lulls.

I think I'm going to try to take it a bit slower, and like I said make some more friends and see how it goes from there.
#13 Oct 01 2010 at 4:21 PM Rating: Decent
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I know talking bad about FF14 is forbidden on these forums, but I was very hyped to play this game and even took a couple days off work when it was first released. Honestly it's not a terrible game, but it needs time to be refined just as FFXI was when it was first released. I see a lot of potential but at the moment I feel as if I'm wasting my time playing this.

I have about 5 hours to play when I get home from work and before I have to go to bed. The other day I logged in and started collecting my new leves and went off to craft. I just felt so horribly bored while grinding out these localleves. I was thinking to myself while crafting that I had a better time at work doing a take off, which is literally doing a count as to how many parts appear on a blueprint.

I don't know what it is, FF14 is missing something though and feels too much like work. I know MMOs aren't supposed to be carebearish and make everything easy for you a-la WoW style, and I know MMOs are designed literally to suck up time, but FFXIV feels like it goes out of it's way to waste your time. I suppose it the UI and menu layout that really does it for me. Everything is so clunky and has unnecessary steps. On top of that, socializing is pretty much discouraged while you craft since it continues to close out the chat box. Yes, I know you can reopen the chat and hit the up arrow to resume your typing but it's still lame.

The worst part of this all, and I was guilty of this until last night when I had enough, is that I kept defending the game and doing my absolute best to put on a face that I was enjoying it. Friends would ask me how it was and I'd tell them how much I was loving it, etc. I don't know why I did that, I guess I just want FF14 to succeed and didn't want to talk badly about it.

tl;dr: Is anyone else disappointed by this game but afraid to admit it to themselves or others?


Nope.

I know what I'm doing and where I want to go. By the time I get there SE will have released more content and I'll have a new goal(s).
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#14 Oct 01 2010 at 4:26 PM Rating: Excellent
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Anyone feel like they're forcing themselves to like FF14?


Yeah, to some extent. I keep thinking, if this was the same game, but made from a different company with a different title, I would have already got really ****** that I paid out for this game, and would probably quit now and cut my loses.

But since, it's SE, I want to give them the benefit of doubt, just because there were so many things that were done right in Final Fantasy 11.
#15 Oct 01 2010 at 4:29 PM Rating: Decent
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Nope.

I know what I'm doing and where I want to go. By the time I get there SE will have released more content and I'll have a new goal(s).


That's actually a great way to put it.

1. I had a plan when I decided to play.
2. I used OB to learn the basics and figure how they fit into my plan.
3. Found an LS that is both fun and great with supporting each other.
4. Commence plan.
5. ????
6. Profit!
#16 Oct 01 2010 at 4:31 PM Rating: Good
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#17 Oct 01 2010 at 4:33 PM Rating: Decent
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Having slept around with nearly all the MMO titles ever i feel like this game has alot of potential yet the fine tuning is absolutely imperative. controlling everything is a hot *** mess and pulling up quest objective maps is a full blown pain in the ***. That being said the toons are ****, and that makes everything ok.
#18 Oct 01 2010 at 4:36 PM Rating: Decent
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No, I don't have a lot of time to play now that my vacation is over and now my biggest problem is choosing 1 or 2 goals and sticking to it/them.

Yeah the game is flawed right now but it feels great knowing that for once even though I don't have a lot of time to play all the time I will probably be able to get to end game with some cool folks and do some awesome content.
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#19 Oct 01 2010 at 4:37 PM Rating: Good
Ya, I feel the same why, trying to like the game, but everything gets old fast (probably cause everything is so cumbersome as it is). Doesn't help that we were 15 people from FFXI coming over, and there's basically 3 of us left after the first week, the others have already given up on it. They said they'll come back once they fix the UI, but until then, they'll stick to other games. It's unfortunate cause the game obviously becomes 10x more appealing when you're doing things with others.

I'm gonna stick it out for now, and wait until they at least add more content before I make a final decision on a game this big.
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Well I was starting to feel a bit of that, but then I unexpectedly stumbled upon one of the two areas that are not starter cities. I don't even know then name of it because I had no idea it existed. I ventured in to the mountains zone and my jaw dropped.
I saw this map that was so ******* big, I had to just walk around. Then it hit me, SE has a lot planned but for what ever reason, chose to release this game somewhat earlier. They probably wanted to release the game before WoW Cataclysm.

My feelings changed though. They have a game that they want us to play but they haven't finished it and I can tell. I haven't even seen a Beastman yet. They need to add more mobs to every zone so it doesn't feel so lifeless. They could also add more landmarks to each zone to make some of the areas more memorable, especially Gridania.

The class guildleves are in btw.
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#21 Oct 01 2010 at 5:17 PM Rating: Excellent
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I very much know how the OP feels. Usually I'm clearly loving or clearly disliking an MMO at the beginning, but my feelings keep getting yanked around by FF XIV. One minute I'm in love with the graphics, the elegance and look of the game, and the rich details that abound. I'm having fun with harvesting and crafting and combat.

But inevitably the sheer number of keystrokes/clicks it takes to do ANYTHING (and I do have macros set up for class changes at least) starts wearing on me. Then, when I travel from one area with super easy mobs to the next area where everything one-shots me, I get annoyed that there's no gradation in difficulty, no range of mobs in an area, just easy easy easy then REALLY HARD HARD BLAM YER DEAD. It feels like lazy area design. Other lazy/rushed design decisions irk too: no sorting in inventory, etc etc.

I love the flexibility to do any crafting, be any adventurer, but with the limited questing the feeling of grinding sets in very quickly. I'm fine with not having many quests, but make the ones we do have richer and more interesting: for example how about a quest that takes us across several areas of expertise: have us mine some ore then do some blacksmith tasks to make a weapon and then take that weapon out for a spin by killing a few mobs, and wrap a bit of story around it while you're at it. Yes we can make our own stories, but it would be a great introduction to the wonderful possibilities of their system if they could have these few quests we get serve as a really fun and enjoyable tutorial system rather than have us boringly click our way through a few scant lines of text explaining game mechanics at the local crystal. Once again, it just feels they were either very lazy or very rushed.

It's quite the odd feeling to go from "Ohmigod this world is great" one hour to "I'd rather pound my toes with a hammer than go through all these clicks to get my loot one more time." the next. I have a couple more weeks to decide, and still am not sure what that decision will be.
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I feel the same really, I love the atmosphere of the game, the enviroments, the amazing music etc. For the first day or two I really felt as if I could put all my time into this game and it to be my next full time mmo, that quickly faded and now it just feels clumsy, devoid of any kind of community and it just seems really barren of stuff to do really. I want to like it and ill probably force myself to play it for quite a bit longer but i'm not enjoying it as I did with FFXI or WoW at the start really.

I don't think its a bad game I think it's more a case of the previous games I played just really fitted well with what I liked and they are big shoes to fill.
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not sure how people reference how much they loved XI but they dont find the same immersion here..... perhaps its you that changed not the game cause.. when i started ffxiv i was disappointed its nearly identical to Xi except much better looking so.. for anyone who wants an idea of what XIV is like.. go play XI imo.
#25 Oct 01 2010 at 5:29 PM Rating: Decent
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not sure how people reference how much they loved XI but they dont find the same immersion here..... perhaps its you that changed not the game cause.. when i started ffxiv i was disappointed its nearly identical to Xi except much better looking so.. for anyone who wants an idea of what XIV is like.. go play XI imo.


I haven't seen a fight or encounter than requires any kind of skill. FFXI had some very interesting fights with different ways of approaching things. At the moment everything is easily soloable, or if it does require multiple people you just have the mages spam Cure for skill points and the melee mindlessly go at it. The hate management in this game isn't nearly as interesting as FFXI. There are many other ways 14 pales in comparison to 11, so yes, us FFXI veterans do have some valid reasons to feel disappointed. Also the complete lack of a death penalty takes away the thrill of battle. "Oh we died? Glad the respawn is right here. Gonna go grab a drink while weakness wears."
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not sure how people reference how much they loved XI but they dont find the same immersion here..... perhaps its you that changed not the game cause.. when i started ffxiv i was disappointed its nearly identical to Xi except much better looking so.. for anyone who wants an idea of what XIV is like.. go play XI imo.


Honestly I don't get this at all, I love FFXI and I mean really enjoy that game a lot. From the moment I started 7 years ago I was hooked and I never lost that feeling. If what you said was true for me I would quit FFXI and be totally happy with a prettier FFXI, sadly it's not the case at all.
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I'm enjoying the game, though I've been pretty outspoken about some of the major flaws. I'm banking on future potential with a lot of it.

OP, was FFXI your first MMORPG? Perhaps subconsciously you're getting disheartened because FFXIV isn't creating the same levels of excitement that FFXI once had. I had to caution myself against that...first MMORPG's come with a lot of inherent newness and excitement because they're a totally new experience. FFXIV is at times a bit too familiar; it draws up old feelings for FFXI, which I can't reasonably expect it to match.
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While I wish there were certain tweaks etc... I'm quite happy as is. I know the game will grow and at the moment, I'm playing at the pace I want to yet I'm progressing. I can't complain other than the lack of story. BTW the lack of story is still deeper than quite a few MMO's I've played at release in the last 3ish years.

Then again I've played a few in the last 10 that had good story and yet 0 content or loads of bugs... what's there to complain about, I sit near a stool, and I actually sit on it. For me, that's kinda refreshing at release.
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what's there to complain about, I sit near a stool, and I actually sit on it. For me, that's kinda refreshing at release.

One thing they did right is they let people literally sit around and wait... <ducks>

#30 Oct 01 2010 at 8:43 PM Rating: Good
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yes, I feel much like you OP. I like teaming up for some leves but the jobs feel bland and no one job feels unique. The UI is horrendous, I cant stand doing local leves, I dont mind crafting but I cant stand clicking through 5 sub-menus to get something started. It feels.... like work, boring painful work.

Personally I find it insulting that SE would release a game with some of the defects that are in this game and expect a monthly payment from us. Keep in mind this is the first MMO launch I've ever played, but non-sortable inventory, no search function, this retainer mess. It feels half assed.

I spent almost 2k on a new computer in anticipation of this game, I played FFxi for 5 years, and was going crazy waiting for this release. I hope they put a serious effort and make this game what it could be, but for now I find many of the problems and lack of basic features unacceptable for a publicly released game.
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I agree with you, I still play because it's some what enjoyable and because I know it will get better eventually and I'll be glad I stuck with it. I just hope it doesn't take too long because the menu lag, the time sink for simple things like sorting inventory is really getting to me.
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I never played FFXI, so to me this is an all new mmo... and while i have to disagree with the poster as i like the game and if i want i dont have to make umpteen characters to play all the classes. and provided i play for a long time the 1 toon wil be able to at least mess with them all some.

this is not my first mmo launch by far. but i must say overall it is one of the more smooth ones. other then some issues i have with the entire ui, and the ui/npc/getting down to craft/doing stuff in bazzars.. basically any window to do stuff in thats not your main menu lag.. its pretty good.. i dont rememeber..

but didnt the final fantasy for the nintendo have a sort option?? if not i know 3 in the us (5 or 6 i thinik overall) for the super nintendo did. so whos bright idea was it to give us 80 inventory spaces, 80 retainer spaces and no sort option. did the dev tell the boss hey think we should have a sort option and the boss showed up drunk and went naaahhh, if they want to sort they can take 3hours doing it with trading back and forth with a retainer and deal with the ui lag it has.. lol.. i would like to see at least the ability to leave people messages.. i mean in only have 3 people i have done crap with in the game..but what if i wanted to leave them a message telling them i found and have an item they are looking for or something. oh and searching bazzar wards.. lol.. yeah not doing that again.. i dont need any item that bad,.. i will just not be at my best.

now that might look long.. but those are more of an annoyance thing that ever mmo i have ever played has something that annoys me. if they never have an auction house, ok well i can live with that. i still like the game so far since i have been playing when the early access started.
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naa, Just like some other posters I've set myself a goal and I'm sure that once I reach that goal SE will have released new things to do.

It can be fun, aggravating, empty and yet meaningful as I work towards this goal but it really does drive me forward to play.
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There are far too many obvious mistakes (no sort being the biggest)and bugs, and a few too many design choices that I think are poor ones (usage based skillups, retainer bazaars, repairs, 'upside down pyrimid' crafting, too many parts involved with synths) for me to really be in love with the game. Add to that my spending 2 days waiting for my SE friend to be able to join my server (couldnt motivated myself to reroll, was holding out hope he would get in) and my feelings are pretty luke warm at best.

I'm gonna stick it out though. I've been really excited about the game since I heard Square was making a new MMO. I think there is alot that needs to be addressed, but since alot of people seem to share my concerns, I'm confident that they'll be addressed in a way I'm happy with. Pretty much going with the simple philosophy, of "i'll play until I don't want to play anymore". If I find myself logging out to watch reruns of the office, thats when I'll give up on it.
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I think it seems clear the reason some are finding it more acceptable than others is they are setting themselves some goal and looking beyond the horrible things, I can understand that I guess because thats how I would force myself to grind a specific job all day long or grind out merits on FFXI when I was bored of doing so. However I think with a new game this shouldnt really be needed, the only honest hook this game has right now is how it looks and sounds that's about it.

This game is what FFXI would be with a horrible UI, no community, broken gameplay, key features removed like mog house/ah etc, some FoV books(sad when you think the main content of 14 is a restricted FoV, even when I see everyone crowded around the crystal I think about people crowded around the book in cape terrigan lol..) and 1-2 missions. If this game was anything but a final fantasy title and didnt look and sound as it does it would already be dead.

I'm not sure if I'm forcing myself to like the game because i'm worried ffxi will die in a few years and I will be without a game if I hate this or I'm just being really shallow and trying to like it cause its so pretty, I honestly don't know but I kinda feel like slapping myself for forcing myself to playing a game i'm not enjoying. I wonder how many would be left if all of us in this state of mind just stopped playing the game we aren't having any fun in till they actually make it good. I would say as time goes on this will become more and more of a problem, killing the urge to even log on at all for those of us feeling this. Once that happens the game will start looking pretty dead and the downward spiral will begin, it will only get worse as people have less to do to take their minds off the horrible problems this game has.
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I've had about 5 days where I had fun for a good many hours. I've also had 5 days where I couldn't take it any more after 20 minutes. I think I'm going to start avoiding the things that irritate me and do the one thing that isn't terrible. Fishing it is.
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So far haven't had to force myself to play but after getting to 16 maur today I really feel like the game is broken class xp wise, I liked XI for the partying with other players its simply flat out broken in this game, some ppl dont get xp others get too few esp while trying to tank you dont get credit for it its just all damage based xp it seems which is really unfair to a party.

Heck even solo xp is broken, fighting dodos you'll get 50 skill pts sometimes othertimes 300 why such a huge difference for mob of the same level, and behind that it seems I get more skill ups for easier fights then some of the longer tougher fights against harder mobs.

Doing some leve quests me and a friend were getting waaaay more skill ups on weaker mobs that we took down in 3-4 hits then ones that took a minute or two to kill. How in the world does this ever make sense and why aren't more ppl complaining about this then other things?

The lag/menu UI and horrible chat interface are something I can overlook in hopes they will work on it but the class xp stuff just feels completely broken to me.

Me and a friend just pretty much stopped duoing because we get more XP solo this has been going on for a few levels now.

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OP, was FFXI your first MMORPG? Perhaps subconsciously you're getting disheartened because FFXIV isn't creating the same levels of excitement that FFXI once had. I had to caution myself against that...first MMORPG's come with a lot of inherent newness and excitement because they're a totally new experience. FFXIV is at times a bit too familiar; it draws up old feelings for FFXI, which I can't reasonably expect it to match.


Yes, FFXI was my first MMO and I think a lot of what you say is true. I really have no doubt in my mind FFXIV will be as amazing or better than FFXI once it's given some time. It's just these early rough stages I'm having trouble keeping with it. I'd also like to thank everyone in this thread for a good and mature conversation. I almost didn't bother posting it because I figured I'd be told to go back to WoW and to stop complaining.
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Eske, Star Breaker wrote:
OP, was FFXI your first MMORPG? Perhaps subconsciously you're getting disheartened because FFXIV isn't creating the same levels of excitement that FFXI once had. I had to caution myself against that...first MMORPG's come with a lot of inherent newness and excitement because they're a totally new experience. FFXIV is at times a bit too familiar; it draws up old feelings for FFXI, which I can't reasonably expect it to match.


Yes, FFXI was my first MMO and I think a lot of what you say is true. I really have no doubt in my mind FFXIV will be as amazing or better than FFXI once it's given some time. It's just these early rough stages I'm having trouble keeping with it. I'd also like to thank everyone in this thread for a good and mature conversation. I almost didn't bother posting it because I figured I'd be told to go back to WoW and to stop complaining.


Yeah, I'm taking a lot of solace in the fact that I feel like I'm in on the ground floor for the first time in an MMORPG. I always get into these things way after release. I think it'll be nice to be one of the ones further ahead in the game, to be able to help and give advice for new players.
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In response to the OP, no.
While I *am* very frustrated with a lot of the borked things that many others complain about, I'm not forcing myself to play. I'm actually kind of addicted. :P

For me, it's the crafting. And YES, I *do* have a lot of the same issues with the crafting system and economy that others do. I would love to be able to have a recipe book of sorts, at least listing things I've already made rather than having to consult a web page every time because I can't keep all the components/mats/level requirements straight. I do eagerly await the fine tuning of the system but I like it for it's complexity. I know it feels like work to a lot of people but I haven't been this intrigued by crafting since SW:G (the original version). Even buggy as that was, no MMO has really done it for me in the crafting area. I think EQ2 came a little close, I don't remember it very well because I quit SOE a very long time ago due to CS issues but I do remember it being somewhat interactive. Horizons/Istaria took the edge off a little bit but even their system didn't quite hit the spot.

I just really love how interactive it is. It makes the crafting grind more tolerable and I love that I get shards and exp in addition to class skill points and materials. About the only thing that could make it better would be customizable recipes. They may even exit and I just haven't discovered them, low level as I am. What I mean is, in Horizons/Istaria, you could have 3 people all with the firebolt spell. Depending on who crafted the spell for them, one person might have a keen spell (more damage) while #2 might have a longer range on it, etc. The same with gear. Everyone would have essentially the same skills and gear (eventually and if you were the same class) but there was still a lot of individualism because of the effects that you could add while crafting.

I like that might Alchemy and Carpenrty and Botany etc are higher than my Conjurer rank. I enjoy making things for people and to sell. And while the system definitely has it's bumps, I still look forward to logging in and crafting. :P

I realize too that it sounds like I have rose colored glasses or that I'm in denial because I still speak of the frustrations. I have no way to prove other than to offer my word, take it as you will, that I do not feel like I'm forcing myself to play or enjoy this game. I'm happy for now, maybe that won't last if they take too long to iron things out but I do truly enjoy it for now.

Edited, Oct 2nd 2010 10:44am by LadyMarisa
#42 Oct 02 2010 at 8:53 AM Rating: Excellent
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I love FFXI. I love the game and have high hopes for FFXIV.

But seriously.. year 2010, and Square Enix can still produce the most retarded unintuitive and ridiculously complicated (especially for people living outside the 3 regions of NA, Japan, Europe... HELLO SE THERES SOMETHING CALLED ASIA IN THIS WORLD.) payment, account management, and totally busted P2P Patching client.

Haven't even gotten to the bloody game yet and the infrastructure surrounding it already has my blood boiling.

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#43 Oct 02 2010 at 9:13 AM Rating: Good
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I too have to agree with the OP and there are already too many posts to count for all the reasons why.

Just after the NA release of XI I still remember (although not so well, Alzheimer’s and all) the first time I stepped out of San d'Oria into the world of Vana'diel as a lvl 1 war and ground out the first 10 levels. I almost gave up a few times as FoV didn't exist then and it was taking way too long. The world was so big and I couldn't get out to explore it yet. Too many bunnies wanted to make me into Meklore stew.

Personally I think that the thing that made XI magic was that you were 'forced' into partying with others. It forced social interaction on you, you were 'part of something bigger than yourself' and that victory is sweeter when shared with others. You were given a sense of community and belonging.

XIV just doesn't have that feel to it.

So I will continue to play with the knowledge that this game, if anything like XI, has a lot of potential. I just have to make it 'out of the dunes' to get there.
#44 Oct 02 2010 at 9:31 AM Rating: Excellent
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I feel exactly the same way some days, like today. I know it is going to be great once things get fixed... XI was great, I trust SE. But waiting for it to get there is going to be agony. As things get fixed, like AH, more quests, Skill Point bug, LAG, it'll be much much more enjoyable.

I don;t mind paying SE & waiting for this, but some days I do force myself to like it and want to punch my monitor. And yes people are allowed to call XIV what it is (mostly horrendous with lots of potential) and still play and enjoy themselves most of the time :P
#45 Oct 02 2010 at 9:51 AM Rating: Good
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I like this game a lot, but... I can't play it in the state it is right now. The problem I have is the combination of not having a reliable way of buying any item I want (AH, Bazaar Search, whatever) and having to repair equipment. If there was an AH I would just buy new equipment whenever mine got rusty, and if equipment didn't need to be repaired I wouldn't mind spending hours crafting everything I need. I just can't deal with both.

I WILL play this in the future and I will love it, as long as something gets fixed.
#46 Oct 02 2010 at 10:00 AM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah I have to agree with the OP.
I am quite literally forcing myself to like the game. I invested so much to play it, new rig etc., that I don't want to not like it. But the leve restictions and the abysmal return on anima and needing to be right on time twice a day to refresh my guardian favor is kinda the countdown to when I take a break and wait to see if it gets better.
I'm already walking everywhere and setting the alarm on my phone so as not to forget the measly 20 pts of favor you can get back everyday. I just don't know what to do in this game anymore. I've searched for stuff to do, but it seems it's just leves, crafting, grind, wait for a new story quest to open up. I'm kind of sick of having to repair gear so often, it's a giant headache. Find all the crafters for all the different stuff u have that u can't repair yourself, or pay out the nose to have an npc repair it.
I almost feel like gameplay was not examined during the Beta. You can't have people getting bored and/or frustrated this early in an MMO, it's suicide for a game's success long-term.
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I'm not forcing myself to like it, I'm giving it a chance. However, the more I play, the less compelled I feel to continue playing. There's just too much wrong with the game right now for me to seriously enjoy my time in it.
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#48 Oct 02 2010 at 10:22 AM Rating: Excellent
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For the life of me I can not figure out why it's OK that SE released a game that isn't fun yet with the promise that "one day it will be fun!" I mean at least 5 different people in this little thread alone have said they're just waiting for it to get fun.

I'm definitely forcing myself to play this game, too. I'm just as guilty. And I've said the "one day it'll get fun" phrase as many times as the next guy. But in reality it's such a stupid way to look at it, as a consumer. There's no reason anybody should be happy with this.
#49 Oct 02 2010 at 12:58 PM Rating: Good
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This thread was a big help.

I was a FFXI player who went to WOW, but I had a blast playing FFXI for a long time. I asked my brother how he felt about FFXIV and he said that he hasn't bought it yet because everyone he knows says it's no fun. Thinking he was being overly dramatic, I googled to see what the general consensus was, and sure enough, it seems like he was right. Such a shame. SE obviously has the resources to make a good game, but to have this sentiment, this soon, is going to be a huge mountain to get over.
Hopefully SE will get this game fixed in time to win me and thousands of others back over before cataclysm comes out.
#50 Oct 02 2010 at 1:23 PM Rating: Excellent
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It's quite the odd feeling to go from "Ohmigod this world is great" one hour to "I'd rather pound my toes with a hammer than go through all these clicks to get my loot one more time." the next. I have a couple more weeks to decide, and still am not sure what that decision will be.


This sums it up for me.
I've been posting about stuff since closed Beta. I'm tired of posting about the SAME stuff since closed Beta.
The game cannot live on the graphics alone.
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#51 Oct 02 2010 at 1:34 PM Rating: Good
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I've said this to all my friends.

I feel that SE already had the game finished for the most part before even releasing alpha. I was in alpha and everything following alpha and everything is the same now too!

The alpha and beta were a gimmick by SE nothing more. I wouldn't be surprised if none of our suggestions were read. The only things that got addressed were the times when people leaked game into to the media and masses during the alpha and beta.

I like the game just not the implementation.
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