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#1 Oct 01 2010 at 11:15 PM Rating: Decent
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before ffxiv i was a WoW player for quite some time (4+ years), and playing that game for that long i developed some good friendships as you might imagine. my core friends all felt pretty much the same way i did about WoW, its growing tired and redundant and we'v spent more than our fair share there and its about time for a change. after many months of shamelessly promoting ffxiv to my friends trying to convince them this is the way to go one of my best friends there tells me today he bought aion and wont be joining ffxiv. his reasoning behind the decision is that he watched a few reviews including the BFF report thats linked here through zam and thinks its not a good game.

now i understand everyone is entitled to their opinion and this game isnt for everyone but am i justified for being upset that this decision was made mostly by an obviously biased reviewer ranting and insulting a game thats been out less than 2 weeks? i mean seriously, if you watch the video hes very clearly upset and has his mind made up on the OPENING CINEMATIC CUTSCENE because he's too dense to realize theres no auto attack. and nevermind the fact that Aion has been out for like 2 years now and theres hundreds if not thousands of negative reviews for that terrible excuse for a game.

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a friend decided to turn down ffxiv which has been out for a week based on a bad review and pick up Aion despite the seemingly numerous bad reviews its recieved over its 2 year existance even tho he has friends vouching for the quality of xiv and who are currently playing.

am i just being dramatic or am i entitled to be upset here?
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#2 Oct 01 2010 at 11:20 PM Rating: Decent
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wouldn't worry about it too much, he'll get tired of the endless grind that is aion before too long.
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#3 Oct 01 2010 at 11:21 PM Rating: Decent
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Just dramatic.
#4 Oct 01 2010 at 11:27 PM Rating: Good
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In all fairness, Aion was a lot more polished when it was released in the US and it's almost a WOW clone.
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I played Aion for a while. I got my full lvl 30 Deava set and all. There are a lot of things i like about that game, but there wasn't enough to keep me. For me, the community ruined it mostly. PVP games tend to be like that for me. The whole server is split 50/50 from the get go.

BTW, you have to get 5 characters to lvl 30 to get full Deava set. So it's not like i played it for a week and decided it sucked.

It just doesn't compare to FF XIV IMO. @ weeks in, and i'm already happier with this game than i was the 10 months i played Aion. (i played on chinese server b4 the beta hit NA.)
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Wolfums wrote:
In all fairness, Aion was a lot more polished when it was released in the US and it's almost a WOW clone.


polished sure, but has it proven itself to be a quality game over time? not really...
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#7 Oct 01 2010 at 11:43 PM Rating: Excellent
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Good lord, don't let him take up Aion. That's a terrible idea.
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As far as reviews go, Aion is not as poorly-reviewed as you seem to think it is. It currently has a 79.34% average at GameRankings, and at Metacritic it's running a 76/100 metascore and a 6.6/10 user score.

EDIT: Try to keep some perspective. It's just a game - it's not a major life decision. Choosing a different MMO than the one you prefer is not some kind of betrayal.

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Aion has better graphics and he will get higher performance. Also, the game in general is built better. If he can pvp well, he will like the game better than ffxiv. If he sucks at pvp, he will quit faster than a lvl 30 tauren who paints his hooves red. Out of the gate, it had all of the options you expect from a MMO, I was there for release. It does have an endless grind to it, much like I am starting to find in FFXIV as well. Most MMO's have this, it all comes down to if you make friends in the game, just like your OP eluded at.

The BFF report isn't the only thing that tried to take a look at FFXIV. G4TV was covering the game in its weekly mmo report during open beta and then they saw the UI, the overall gameplay, all of the restrictions on exp gains, and other things that generally slowed the player down. Some of it, they had incorrect, but mass media like this gets to people. During the CE and regular release, G4TV did not mention FFXIV in the MMO weekly report and this is pretty uncharacteristic of them, unless they had a lawsuit threatened haha.


I give all of these links free of opinion. Unless you want one.

Fast forward to 4 minutes in on the MMO report. The most recent.

http://g4tv.com/videos/48738/The-MMO-Report-Thursday-September-16th/

Where the real damage was done.

http://g4tv.com/videos/48462/The-MMO-Report-Thursday-September-2nd/

G4 apologized for the misrepresentation of the exp system about 1 min. in the next week.

http://g4tv.com/videos/48569/The-MMO-Report-Thursday-September-9th/



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BastokFL wrote:
As far as reviews go, Aion is not as poorly-reviewed as you seem to think it is. It currently has a 79.34% average at GameRankings, and at Metacritic it's running a 76/100 metascore and a 6.6/10 user score.


i dont deny that good reviews for aion dont exist, but on the same token good reviews for ffxiv exist as well. im just frustrated that with so little information out about ffxiv so far he would rather join a game that doesnt necessarily have the best track record instead of taking a shot on an established franchise where playing with friends would be possible.
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#11 Oct 02 2010 at 12:26 AM Rating: Default
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am i just being dramatic or am i entitled to be upset here?



you're entitled to be however you want. but it sure seems like a waste of time/energy to be upset over some *** *** (that Fony guy is ***, right? i have no problem with that, but well, he's also a ***, which is completely different)not liking your new game.






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Elamille wrote:
BastokFL wrote:
As far as reviews go, Aion is not as poorly-reviewed as you seem to think it is. It currently has a 79.34% average at GameRankings, and at Metacritic it's running a 76/100 metascore and a 6.6/10 user score.


i dont deny that good reviews for aion dont exist, but on the same token good reviews for ffxiv exist as well. im just frustrated that with so little information out about ffxiv so far he would rather join a game that doesnt necessarily have the best track record instead of taking a shot on an established franchise where playing with friends would be possible.


Well, that's a WoW player for ya. *ducks*
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#13valeforheya1984, Posted: Oct 02 2010 at 12:49 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) bigist thing is not what someone else likes its what you like. i know meny ppl that think ff xiv is "too hard" so they stay on wow. to me i take it as this. there too frikin stupid to understand the system. its not that frickin hard of a system. use that object on your sholders and stop playing the butten mashers! --end rant--
#14 Oct 02 2010 at 12:49 AM Rating: Default
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Well, that's a WoW player for ya. *ducks*


hey now, i came from wow myself.... tho i came to wow from xi. so does that mean im forgiven? ^^;
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#15 Oct 02 2010 at 12:56 AM Rating: Default
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hey now, i came from wow myself.... tho i came to wow from xi. so does that mean im forgiven? ^^;


lol i did the same played XI till there was nothing left other then every class 75. went to wow and took 3-4 month breaks left and right playing wow and still keep up with the players that were there 24/7

that aside im haveing high hopes for XIV atm there alot of potential there. it seems SE is trying to let players learn the system whill they work the rest of the bugs out befor adding more content.

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#16 Oct 02 2010 at 1:01 AM Rating: Decent
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Critics are....eh just critics. MMO's change, and you almost never see them critique the game again (until an expansion), not to mention its just one person's perspective. I can tell you already no matter how "bad" aion did in reviews, (which wasn't that bad to be honest) as much as I hate to say it FFXIV is not going to be doing much better. It sucks because a lot of people blindly follow reviews without even giving the game a shot before deeming it a failure. I for one will still be playing this regardless of what the critics are going to say about it.
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#17 Oct 02 2010 at 1:14 AM Rating: Decent
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Elamille wrote:
...am i justified for being upset that this decision was made mostly by an obviously biased reviewer ranting and insulting a game thats been out less than 2 weeks?


IIRC the review you're speaking about was actually released based on beta test content. Not much has really changed from beta to release so it's still pretty much the same, but I thought that review was actually favorable. The reviewer didn't rant really. The segment about copy pasta was a bit redundant, but if you play the game and notice things like that then the scenery is redundant too.

I would say that you are not really justified for being upset. Different people have different things they want out of their gaming experience. I don't play FFXIV because I don't feel the development has worked out enough of the problems in the game. I don't think it's horrible. It looks great, but it doesn't play nearly as well as it looks. To me that is more important. I'd play this game in 16-bit if it were more gameplay friendly.
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#18 Oct 02 2010 at 1:23 AM Rating: Good
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Elamille wrote:
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As far as reviews go, Aion is not as poorly-reviewed as you seem to think it is. It currently has a 79.34% average at GameRankings, and at Metacritic it's running a 76/100 metascore and a 6.6/10 user score.


i dont deny that good reviews for aion dont exist, but on the same token good reviews for ffxiv exist as well. im just frustrated that with so little information out about ffxiv so far he would rather join a game that doesnt necessarily have the best track record instead of taking a shot on an established franchise where playing with friends would be possible.


FFXIV really doesn't have much in the way of reviews at all yet - none, really, from any of the major reviewers (IGN has a work-in-progress review - that is, the review itself is a work in progress).

Most reviewers realize you can't review MMOs the same way you review offline games - you likely won't see any significant reviews until the middle of October.



Final Fantasy being an established franchise isn't really relevant, for several reasons. First off, "established" doesn't necessarily mean a franchise's newer games are any good (a certain fast-running blue rodent comes to mind). Another big reason is that the online FFs are markedly different from the offline ones - most FF fans do not like or do not even want to play the online games (to the point that some even hate FF12 specifically because it "plays more like an MMO"), and there's a fairly large number of FFXI players who have never played another FF game or do not like the offline games.

FFXIV is still new - so as an MMO goes, it's somewhat of an unknown quantity. Because it's new, it has no free or low-cost trial. Even completely ignoring people's current complaints, playing a brand-new MMO is not for everyone, even if it is with friends. It has significantly higher hardware requirements than it's competitors. Combine all of these, and FFXIV has a fairly high barrier to entry. I don't fault anyone for opting for a different MMO.
#19 Oct 02 2010 at 1:25 AM Rating: Default
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maybe ranting is a bad word to describe his nonstop complaining, he just starts off immediately getting frustrated. practically his first comment is that the mouse sucks and etc. it just seems like he starts his review with a negative predisposition. it doesnt matter anyways, he looks like the little brother from someone in good charlotte and has a pubic hair landing strip on his chin >.>


the point of this post isnt the guys bad review anyways. its that my friend chose to not pick up this game based on one bad review and bought a game that has its fair share of bad reviews out there too. but those were ignored and bff wasnt. o well...
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maybe ranting is a bad word to describe his nonstop complaining, he just starts off immediately getting frustrated. practically his first comment is that the mouse sucks and etc. it just seems like he starts his review with a negative predisposition. it doesnt matter anyways, he looks like the little brother from someone in good charlotte and has a pubic hair landing strip on his chin >.>


the point of this post isnt the guys bad review anyways. its that my friend chose to not pick up this game based on one bad review and bought a game that has its fair share of bad reviews out there too. but those were ignored and bff wasnt. o well...


You can't really blame him for being frustrated. As a fan of the FF series I was the same way minus all of the ********* I left my feedback on the alpha forums and went on about my business, but when nothing changed I just gave up. Keyboard and mouse has been working for PC and PC games pretty much since the invention. No idea why they decided not to include functional controls for this control scheme, but being mostly a console developer is no excuse. If you can't make your game work well on a PC(which to be honest it should actually work better), don't sell it on a PC.

All that aside, like I said this is a pretty favorable review. If you disagree and think that he had a negative predisposition then take the word of people who bought and are playing the release version. There is a post on these forums about Amazon.com sales, but if you want to save the trip I'll just tell you...

For every 5 star review this game got from Japanese players(who are usually much less likely to ***** and complain), there were a dozen 1 star reviews. 12:1 Japanese players did not like this game. You're lucky your friend didn't see those reviews or instead of just getting ditched for Aion, he might have punched you in the head =/
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FFXIV really doesn't have much in the way of reviews at all yet - none, really, from any of the major reviewers (IGN has a work-in-progress review - that is, the review itself is a work in progress).


That's probably a really good thing, unbiased reviewers unwavered by the fact it's a Final fantasy game will burn this game at the stake.
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Critics are....eh just critics. MMO's change, and you almost never see them critique the game again (until an expansion), not to mention its just one person's perspective. I can tell you already no matter how "bad" aion did in reviews, (which wasn't that bad to be honest) as much as I hate to say it FFXIV is not going to be doing much better. It sucks because a lot of people blindly follow reviews without even giving the game a shot before deeming it a failure. I for one will still be playing this regardless of what the critics are going to say about it.


You have to understand though, the people who review games for IGN, G4, etc, are all deemed professionals in the eyes of the people who watch the shows which adds some extra weight to what they say. Also, forgive me if I want to read some reviews before dropping my hard earned money on a game. The only thing that even got me to get 14 was the name and the hope that it would improve after OB.

I did jump the gun and buy the game 3 days after CE release though due to boredom. Quite frankly, I regret that decision. I know SE's track record with XI and XIV should have had stupid easy features such as the auto sort and multiple chat logs, these were 2 features that were in XI, why didn't they include them in 14? Sheer laziness? Who knows.

I still have high hopes for this game, hence why I'm still reading about the game in the forums, but I've canceled my sub for the time being. Come Oct 24th, I will not be renewing unless a lot of the kinks are worked out by then.

To the OP, understand that WoW had a great model. As much as FF fans don't like to admit it, it did things right. I mean ****, look at how many subs it has right now. You're gaming buddy is entitled to his opinion and he decided to go with Aion. I was even ready to pick up the game when I was at Best Buy tonight just so that I would have something to do until 14 had been polished a bit more. I wouldn't get mad at him, but rather respect his decision to play something that he wants to.

And in case you're wondering, I wouldn't recommend 14 to my worst enemy, let alone my best friend. I wouldn't want anyone to feel as though they got robbed.
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#23 Oct 02 2010 at 6:04 AM Rating: Good
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Why would you convince your friends to leave a polished, well-designed, content-rich game for something that hadn't even been released yet? Did you even play open beta? Wait, I'm guessing you were one of the folks who had this hare-brained idea that the game would magically fix itself upon release.

I don't blame them for jumping ship -- coming from a WoW environment spanning the last 3 years FFXIV is anything but "new" and "refreshing". It's actually frustrating and obtuse. All of this will change eventually -- but why you would assume FFXIV is going to appeal to all your buddies is beyond me.
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you cant compare Aion with FFXIV,thats like compare appels with pears and thats stupid.

Aion is a game that in a way stands on its own and that haves a culture pvp,one race against the other and its a very intensive game with a number of pvp ganking what issent a big problem when you like pvp becouse you can gank them back.
Graphic whise and playing wise its also totaly differend,its more colerful than than FFXIV and there are way more quests and missions thats why its a real grinding game,and you can love it or hating.

FFXIV is totaly differend,color wise its softer and smoother,fighting wise its more relaxing and with the other futers it will proberble also be more relaxer,just like a final fantasy belongs to be.

The only thing i can say about the game is that Aion was at starting(i played the game and still am)was a very smooth game with everything polished and working,with very good working updating systems with free expansions,nice extra's for the paying players as double exp weekends bonus items and so on.

With Final Fantasy XIV we could expect that after having so mutch gaime building experience in all these years specialy with FFXI that is in its kind very unique compared to all other games that are out,we could expect that they could bring a game out that is polished and ready for another 8 years of final fantasy fun but they diddent.

And that is in my eyes very wrong,specialy with howe the competition in the other games are going now,with something new from WOW is almost coming out,Guild wars 2 almost coming out,Diablo 3 that is proberbly also not to far away and proberble other MMO's and RPG's on the way that the competition is so big that FFXIV can die an early dead,and that can be sooner as SE thinks.

And than will FFXIV ends like Age of Conan(that i also played)that is in a way a good game but where they never had the chance to bring that out good becouse all the players left the game with leaving behind 3-4 servers with some die harts on it that refuse to give up.

So Squere Enix get your act togetter and have a very fast move on getting this game good or you wont reach next spring with all the competition around.
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wouldn't worry about it too much, he'll get tired of the endless grind that is aion before too long.


Are you implying FFXIV is any less of a grind? ****, even Aion has more content than FFXIV does (quests, dungeons, sieges).
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The BFF report isn't the only thing that tried to take a look at FFXIV. G4TV was covering the game in its weekly mmo report during open beta and then they saw the UI, the overall gameplay, all of the restrictions on exp gains, and other things that generally slowed the player down. Some of it, they had incorrect, but mass media like this gets to people. During the CE and regular release, G4TV did not mention FFXIV in the MMO weekly report and this is pretty uncharacteristic of them, unless they had a lawsuit threatened haha.


This is why I believe there is a gag order on a lot of the sites that post these reviews. There simply are no reviews whatsoever on this game, and one would think that the media would be all abuzz about this fantastic new MMO, the new threat to WoW's throne.

SE knows the reviews aren't going to be favorable, and I heard from a JP source that they politely asked certain sites to hold off a couple weeks on posting reviews. Whether it's true or not I can't say, but it does have some merit, as the only reviews currently about the game date back to Beta.

It doesn't make sense that there isn't more information out about this game, and it's a shame that the Amazon reviews are so horrid. People really do read those - and I can tell you that if I hadn't pre-ordered the CE and was someone looking to try a new game... Well I would read those reviews and probably move on too. I don't blame your friend for not wanting to spend his money on a game that is ATM very broken. He would be better off hanging onto his money for a few months to see how this all shakes out. SE has two choices - sink or swim. We all hope they swim, but the ball is in their court now.
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I don't understand this double posting!! Stop it!!

lol

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I played Aion up until FFXIV release and I can say that I am enjoying the foundation of what's in FFXIV, you've just gotta give it time. I'm not going to lie it's not perfect, but might as well give it the first month or two to see what they change.

One thing I am noticing about these "Aion was more polished at release," comments. I think people are forgetting Aion was out for a full year in Korea. Even then people were still having issues with "lack of content" "horrible grind system" "annoying bugs."

So, with that said, I think you've just gotta be patient and in a month when/if changes come into affect in FFXIV and it starts to become a "better" game. Bring it to your friends attention and see if he's interested in trying it then. Til then have fun with the game!

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[quote=Parsalyn]I heard from a JP source that they politely asked certain sites to hold off a couple weeks on posting reviews.


SE is going to need more than just a couple weeks... A LOT more.
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Are you implying FFXIV is any less of a grind? ****, even Aion has more content than FFXIV does (quests, dungeons, sieges).


In before everyone starts telling you that you can't compare 1 mmo to another mmo because so and so mmo has been out for a year..

Honestly, I'm sick of that excuse.. That's a deflection to try and justify why the game is in utter shambles right now.. SE is a well established gaming company, the "Square" side has been doing FF since FF1..

You can all make excuses on why we shouldn't be comparing a new game to an old game, but the reality of it is we're going to.. If blizzard were to make Diablo III really nice graphically, but the UI just like Diablo 1, would you buy into it? D2 expanded upon D1 and D3 should expand upon D2.. Blizzard knows wtf they are doing in the online market, SE apparently hasn't figured it out yet.
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And than will FFXIV ends like Age of Conan(that i also played)that is in a way a good game but where they never had the chance to bring that out good becouse all the players left the game with leaving behind 3-4 servers with some die harts on it that refuse to give up.


Actually, AoC has 6 American and 12 European servers running currently, they've released their first expansion to favorable reviews, and their population is growing again. So it seems that Funcom has actually managed to turn the game around.

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This is why I believe there is a gag order on a lot of the sites that post these reviews. There simply are no reviews whatsoever on this game, and one would think that the media would be all abuzz about this fantastic new MMO, the new threat to WoW's throne.


Actually, there is no official review embargo for FFXIV, though SE did ask reviewers to wait 3 or 4 weeks before publishing reviews.

Not that they needed to; current industry-standard behavior is to delay MMO reviews anyway, to provide more time to properly experience the game. In general, reviews for an MMO won't start to appear until about two weeks after release, and then trickle in from there (with the slight exception of IGN, which has a work-in-progress review of FFXIV - the gimmick being that readers get to watch the review take shape as the reviewer spends more time with the game).

Even with WoW, with the notable exception of GameSpot, most reviews didn't go up until Dec 7, 2004 at the earliest, at which point WoW had been out for 2 weeks.
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I kinda like FFXIV :/

Yes, the content is minimal. But fighting is fun (more fun than XI in my opinion. Much more tactical already.) Crafting and gathering is far more interesting than any MMO I've played previously.

But from the opening Ul'Dah (tutorial) quest, I can see that the quality of writing is good.

Yes, it needs improvements. But they'll come.

I just wish they'd release an announcement about WHEN.
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#33 Oct 03 2010 at 4:39 AM Rating: Decent
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IMO I find it pretty retarded to rate an mmo that just came out, even after 3 weeks I find it's too early. They will probably put some dumbass to rate the game anyway.
#34 Oct 03 2010 at 5:21 AM Rating: Good
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Torrence wrote:
Parsalyn wrote:


The BFF report isn't the only thing that tried to take a look at FFXIV. G4TV was covering the game in its weekly mmo report during open beta and then they saw the UI, the overall gameplay, all of the restrictions on exp gains, and other things that generally slowed the player down. Some of it, they had incorrect, but mass media like this gets to people. During the CE and regular release, G4TV did not mention FFXIV in the MMO weekly report and this is pretty uncharacteristic of them, unless they had a lawsuit threatened haha.


This is why I believe there is a gag order on a lot of the sites that post these reviews. There simply are no reviews whatsoever on this game, and one would think that the media would be all abuzz about this fantastic new MMO, the new threat to WoW's throne.

SE knows the reviews aren't going to be favorable, and I heard from a JP source that they politely asked certain sites to hold off a couple weeks on posting reviews. Whether it's true or not I can't say, but it does have some merit, as the only reviews currently about the game date back to Beta.

It doesn't make sense that there isn't more information out about this game, and it's a shame that the Amazon reviews are so horrid. People really do read those - and I can tell you that if I hadn't pre-ordered the CE and was someone looking to try a new game... Well I would read those reviews and probably move on too. I don't blame your friend for not wanting to spend his money on a game that is ATM very broken. He would be better off hanging onto his money for a few months to see how this all shakes out. SE has two choices - sink or swim. We all hope they swim, but the ball is in their court now.


I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but there is enough information on this game, even if you didn't play beta. Yes a lot of those "reviews" are bad, but let's be honest, this game had and still has a lot of problems, I'm not talking about problems that are so rare and so hard to fix that only a few people strike them, no, one of those problems lie in the meta game.

You are obviously a FFXIV fan, which with all due respect you are entitled to, but you must not forget people do not say a game is crap for no apparent reason. (Well there are people like that but >_>)

And about the "fantastic new MMO, the new threat to WoW's throne." I'm sorry to burst your bubble once again, but as many as those other MMORPG's that came out and were such a "threat" to WoW are wishing they had as many subsribers.

WoW is an entirely different MMORPG for an entire different group of people. Average Joe is sooner to pick up WoW than FFXIV.

"SE knows the reviews aren't going to be favorable, and I heard from a JP source that they politely asked certain sites to hold off a couple weeks on posting reviews."

I haven't heard anything about this, but IF this were to be true, then this would be very, very, very poor from SE. They released a product, an unfinished product to boot, asking full price, but they would ask to not review until they deem fit?


TL;DR: Pink glasses, take them off.

#35 Oct 03 2010 at 5:51 AM Rating: Good
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Riathy wrote:
I haven't heard anything about this, but IF this were to be true, then this would be very, very, very poor from SE. They released a product, an unfinished product to boot, asking full price, but they would ask to not review until they deem fit?


Apparently, review copies went out with an email from SE saying that they hope that reviewers will wait three or four weeks before publishing final reviews, but would love to see reviewers post their impressions in the meantime. Basically they said "talk about it all you want, but we'd appreciate if you didn't put the score on for a few weeks. Thx. Love, SE."

In general, it seems very few people are making a big deal about this, at least in the English-speaking world, because they basically just asked nicely instead of demanding, insisting, or threatening.
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