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#1 Oct 02 2010 at 11:13 AM Rating: Good
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I'm starting to get annoyed.

I'm Rank 16 using a Rank 11 Tool with nice crafting gear - I accept and start a Rank 15 Local Leve. Nothing special required, no recommendations, etc.

You use Standard Synthesis (success)
You gain 9% Progress
You lose 11 Durability

You use Standard Synthesis (fail)
You lose 21 Durability

And then I pretty much only get 4-5 more success out of 6 SETS of material. Failures losing around 17-20+ Durability every time.

Really? Should I just crank out Rank 1 Leves? They give more experiencing then blowing up SIX sets of ingredients on something I should be able to at least complete, if not complete more easily. Do DoW or DoM get mauled on appropriate level Leves with good gear?

Anyone else still having problems like this?

#2 Oct 02 2010 at 11:17 AM Rating: Default
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I think it's just that you tried a rank15 leve. It would be entirely dependent on what the item type is. If it requires support and you didn't use it. I've failed 10's at 9. I've failed 10's at 11. It depends on the item. I don't have that problem what so ever now, even on weaver. The only difficult I have with weaver right now is crafting cotton cloth. The simple truth is, just because you're above it in ranks, doesn't mean you're gonna be able to crank it out.
#3 Oct 02 2010 at 11:23 AM Rating: Good
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So nobody should accept Rank15 Leves until they're Rank 20? That doesn't make sense.

I'm accepting an appropriately leveled Leve - it did NOT ask for any recommomendations, etc like I said - and I didn't even get maybe SIX SUCCESSES... not like I was able to complete 1 synth.. I had SIX total success over probably .. Let's see: 6 Materials, average maybe 5-6 actions per material... Out of 36 tries I am successful a sixth of the time?

I would understand it being DIFFICULT. Like choosing waits appropriately - lots of red popping up and you've got to save Preserve for the last couple tries - barely squeezing a synth out, etc. But this wasn't even close, it slaughtered 20 minutes of my time and a wasted leve.
#4 Oct 02 2010 at 11:25 AM Rating: Decent
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EmotionBlues wrote:
So nobody should accept Rank15 Leves until they're Rank 20? That doesn't make sense.

I'm accepting an appropriately leveled Leve - it did NOT ask for any recommomendations, etc like I said - and I didn't even get maybe SIX SUCCESSES... not like I was able to complete 1 synth.. I had SIX total success over probably .. Let's see: 6 Materials, average maybe 5-6 actions per material... Out of 36 tries I am successful a sixth of the time?

I would understand it being DIFFICULT. Like choosing waits appropriately - lots of red popping up and you've got to save Preserve for the last couple tries - barely squeezing a synth out, etc. But this wasn't even close, it slaughtered 20 minutes of my time and a wasted leve.



I can understand why you're saying it doesn't make sense. There HAVE been several 10 leves I COULD NOT do at 10. It's just the way it works unfortunately, and if others are doing it at that level it has to be something you're doing. That's really all the advice I can offer because I haven't encountered massive fails since the fix. I've actually done 10x better since the fix.
#5 Oct 02 2010 at 11:30 AM Rating: Excellent
Gear in need of repairs?

I've found the change to be working ok, myself.

Also consider what crystals your craft primarily uses. Are your elemental attributes in line with that?
#6 Oct 02 2010 at 4:07 PM Rating: Good
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Once you get above rank 10 or so, you should be using the facilities at the camp to get a crafting buff..
#7 Oct 02 2010 at 5:45 PM Rating: Default
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So i'm in limsa and i pick up my crafting leves. ! i have an armorer rank 10 leve for bearded rock. Befor today i was doing all my crafting with a rank 1 tool and no support or crafting clothes. While running around limsa i make my rank 12 armorer tool,and get 5 pieces of crafting gear as I want to get a little more serious about my crafting and don't want to waste more expensive mats.

I truck out to bearded rock,get to the npc,get the material,go get support,and figure this will be a breeze. try 1:

Maker's Muse
Standard Synthesis failed -21 durability
Standard Synthesis failed +10 progress -20 durability
Blinding speed
Rapid synthesis works +30% -10 duribility
rapid synthises fails -30 durability
Standard Synthesis Fails
You Botched trying to make bronze sqaure

Now,im a rank 12 armorer,5 pieces of crafting gear,a rank 12 armorer tool,with guild support. I did a leve to produce a rank 8 item that i was previously making with a rank 1 tool and no support or crafting gear.The crafting in this game is in a sad state of affairs to say the least...I could just go grind mobs,sell the drops and buy the stuff off the bazaars of the people that have actually had the luck to get their crafting up high enough but at an outrageously inflated rate.

SE seriously dropped the ball on this game. My wife and I bought 2 CE of this game. Her pc wouldnt download the game due to copy redunency check issue that other folks have been having with their pc's as well. I even placed a call to SE tech supprt after waiting 4 days from the email i sent em and they said "sorry". On my copy i never recieved my onion helm when i opened my account even though i made sure that i imputted the registration code correctly befor i put it in. I mailed SE about that with no responce...

Im sorry I got a little off topic here but this crafting thing is a huge kick in the nuts...the perverbial straw thats breaking the camels back kinda things. I really want to love this game,I loved FFXI.

Sorry for the rant folks just feeling very discouraged atm :(:(

Edited, Oct 2nd 2010 8:15pm by warandpeaces
#8 Oct 02 2010 at 6:12 PM Rating: Good
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You're basing that SE dropped the ball off of one failed synth? I have not felt that there was anything wrong since that last update. That doesn't mean I have 100% success rate on items even below my cap, but I don't think that is the intended result.
#9 Oct 02 2010 at 6:17 PM Rating: Decent
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No Vawn I'm not basing it on 1 failed attempt,I'm complaining about alot of failed attempts but decided to only post about the first one since purchasing gear and items that by SE word would make crafting alot easier. Supposedly they fixed the crafting yesturday,how?
#10 Oct 02 2010 at 6:48 PM Rating: Decent
I have to agree, it really seems like crafting got hit by the nerf bat then ran over by a truck carrying a buttload of nerf bats. Finally, a guy named Derf accidentally pushed a button that caused a giant nerf satellite to come crashing down out of orbit to finish the job.

Not sure where I was going with that... But crafting almost seems a little more random now. Some synths utterly fail I could do with ease before, while strangely some standard attempts will either yield no progress upon failure, or won't take any durability at all when successful. Somehow I managed to complete a synth I was sure to botch from 60% to 100% using only standard synthesis and 12 durability left. Each success took no durability. Of course I promptly got nothing but failures and botched the next without even getting to 40% progress.
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