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#1 Oct 02 2010 at 4:04 PM Rating: Decent
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(From another Board, thought it would be interesting to see what you guys thought.

I remember the old disclaimer in XI telling us all not to sacrifice friends, family, school, or work.
But over the past few years I've been seeing an evolution.

For some people, MMO culture IS real life.
Whether people want to admit it or not WoW has made MMO's more mainstream to the point that it's an accepted way of Life.
Hanging out with friends online is not so much considered a waste any more.
I've heard rumors of RL couple being formed over online games since it's no longer that weird for girls to game.
I used to play a lot of XI. My roommates played it, one of which was a guy we met in our LS who hit hard times and needed a
place to stay so we invited him to move across the country from Utah to Georgia to crash with us. We'd never met him but because we spent so much
time together online we knew him and were comfortable with him joining us.

At what point does it become sacrificing real life just being your real life? I don't see, in our current era, how wasting time with your friends watching Sporting Events at a bar is any different than wasting time with your friends doing stuff online aside from the fact that you're actually doing stuff and not just watching.

Seriously, how dedicated to gaming are you and do you think your level of dedication is healthy?
Is it just something you only do when bored? Is it something you do often? Is it just what you do?
#2 Oct 02 2010 at 4:12 PM Rating: Default
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it becomes sacrificing when you neglect things that don't onvole the game...

children
wives(those that don't play)
friends
family
WORK(call in sick to do a raid...WTF)

you know, those things call obligations, sure by nature your only obligated to yourself...but htis is society, not nature...welcome to mankind!

go text more kthxbye
#3 Oct 02 2010 at 4:16 PM Rating: Good
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Everything should be done in moderation. Be it playing an MMO, or going out and partying with friends. A lot of MMO players do NOT do it in moderation, they let it consume their lives. And it doesn't matter how much you say or think it, an MMO will never be a replacement for real life.
#4 Oct 02 2010 at 4:24 PM Rating: Decent
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All things in moderation, yes.
Not withstanding the obligations in our lives.
Don't neglect friends, family, or work, we're all in agreement.

But when you're not with friends or family or at work are you gaming?

I'm not talking about basement troll giving people snarky remarks on forums.
We all know they exist, but they are hopefully now in the small minority.
I'm talking about your average well adjusted gamer.
I guess I was trying to figure out why the stigma exists within the community as well as without.

Various people on various forums have made comments about how people
who game a lot must not have a life, but it is in fact part of their life.
Not to mention that these comments are made on gaming boards by other gamers.


And I hate texting, as well as text shorthand, use your whole words or stop trying to contribute.
#5 Oct 02 2010 at 5:46 PM Rating: Excellent
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I don't view it as "an accepted way of Life" at all. I'm sorry if I offend anyone but I don't see online interaction with people in an MMORPG as being the same as hanging out with people in real life. I don't consider people in my guilds in games or people I party with regularly that I don't know in real life to be my actual friends. These are just players to me, I appreciate when I'm helped by others in an MMORPG but I can't make a real social connection this way or feel like I know someone.

An MMORPG is a recreational activity to me, and that's it. It's something I do for fun, but it's all a game.
#6 Oct 02 2010 at 5:54 PM Rating: Decent
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To me it's just a more fun version of the whole social networking phenomenon. Nothing beats hangin' with the dudes/dudettes but it is an easier / different way for ppl to connect. I do agree it can get out of hand. I think facebook is the creepiest thing ever. Lol, I was joking to a buddy that I was gonna try to bring phone-calls back (biz related).
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#7 Oct 02 2010 at 5:58 PM Rating: Decent
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chomama wrote:
To me it's just a more fun version of the whole social networking phenomenon. Nothing beats hangin' with the dudes/dudettes but it is an easier / different way for ppl to connect. I do agree it can get out of hand. I think facebook is the creepiest thing ever. Lol, I was joking to a buddy that I was gonna try to bring phone-calls back (biz related).


Lol phone calls! That's absurd!
#8 Oct 02 2010 at 5:59 PM Rating: Decent
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BRizzl3 wrote:
chomama wrote:
To me it's just a more fun version of the whole social networking phenomenon. Nothing beats hangin' with the dudes/dudettes but it is an easier / different way for ppl to connect. I do agree it can get out of hand. I think facebook is the creepiest thing ever. Lol, I was joking to a buddy that I was gonna try to bring phone-calls back (biz related).


Lol phone calls! That's absurd!


I know right!!!
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#9 Oct 02 2010 at 6:04 PM Rating: Decent
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BRizzl3 wrote:
I don't view it as "an accepted way of Life" at all. I'm sorry if I offend anyone but I don't see online interaction with people in an MMORPG as being the same as hanging out with people in real life. I don't consider people in my guilds in games or people I party with regularly that I don't know in real life to be my actual friends. These are just players to me, I appreciate when I'm helped by others in an MMORPG but I can't make a real social connection this way or feel like I know someone.

An MMORPG is a recreational activity to me, and that's it. It's something I do for fun, but it's all a game.
I agree to an extent. I have a couple genuine friends from FFXI that I talk to on a daily basis, and I haven't played FFXI in 5 months. Some even quit before I did.

Part of the problem is that there are less obvious aspects to interacting with people in real life that don't carry over to the internet (or even to an extent, phones). It's not a suitable replacement, in essence, but it's not all bad either.
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#10 Oct 03 2010 at 9:56 PM Rating: Decent
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chomama wrote:
BRizzl3 wrote:
chomama wrote:
I think facebook is the creepiest thing ever. Lol, I was joking to a buddy that I was gonna try to bring phone-calls back (biz related).


Lol phone calls! That's absurd!


I know right!!!


The real challenge would be to bring back Landlines. Or phones with the twisty cord.
#11xthunderblazex, Posted: Oct 04 2010 at 12:48 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Irony is...it will take casuals over a month to gain 1 rank eventually.
#12 Oct 04 2010 at 1:01 AM Rating: Decent
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xthunderblazex wrote:
Irony is...it will take casuals over a month to gain 1 rank eventually.

Later ranks are going to take over 100k sp.

Surplus hits in at 80-100k sp...and you start getting 0sp at 160-200k mark.


Have fun.


Casuals don't have to worry about surplus sp, it wouldn't affect them.
#13 Oct 04 2010 at 1:03 AM Rating: Decent
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Elmyrsun wrote:
chomama wrote:
BRizzl3 wrote:
chomama wrote:
I think facebook is the creepiest thing ever. Lol, I was joking to a buddy that I was gonna try to bring phone-calls back (biz related).


Lol phone calls! That's absurd!


I know right!!!


The real challenge would be to bring back Landlines. Or phones with the twisty cord.


Man I loved those twisty cords!

To be honest, I laughed when I read the message from SE when I started up the game. But it's also kind of sad. My brother used to be really into EverQuest back in its original release. He was really into it. I can remember a situation where he was locked out of the room where the family computer was and was threatened to have his character's deleted (My mom was not happy about his habit). He ended up punching a hole almost entirely through the door and ripping up some window blinds just out of sheer rage. And this was only one situation.
That's when I think dedication goes too far. I'm all for people being enthusiastic and excited about things. I respect people who are dedicated to certain goals and activities. But to become so attached to something (and really this applies to more than just games for me) like that is ridiculous. Like people above have said, gaming should be a recreational thing. It's fun, so have fun with it. But you're part of life and life isn't just gaming. Nor is it just school. Nor is it just your family. It's everything, so don't live just part of it.
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#14 Oct 04 2010 at 1:05 AM Rating: Default
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In Buddhism it is believed "To suffer is to live". Wonder if there are any monks playing? XD
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