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#1 Oct 03 2010 at 5:30 AM Rating: Sub-Default
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I'm already pretty sure the answer is "no", but I'm tired of seeing a hundred idiots trying to sell mole meat for 10k.
#2 Oct 03 2010 at 5:35 AM Rating: Good
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The game's only been out for 11 days.

That is not long enough for prices to have settled at anything near equilibrium.
#3 Oct 03 2010 at 5:40 AM Rating: Default
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I think you missed my point. My problem isn't with the prices, it's that 90% of the people who set up their retainer in the market wards aren't even selling anything useful in the first place (most people are selling crap like mole meat and rat tails, etc), the ridiculous price on the useless items is just a kicker. I have no idea why anyone would sell crap like that, but apparently most players think it's a good idea for some reason and it makes it impossible to find anything between the vast amount of retainers and graphic loading lag.
#4 Oct 03 2010 at 5:45 AM Rating: Default
Hahah! Sorry but the topic title made me laugh.
They have some ridiculous prices there for stuff you can farm easy but the real sick one are the outrageous gear, weapons and tools prices going into 80 to 180k.
I can craft hempen (cotton nis next) robes and cowls now which i was selling a little high (like 22k) but that is if you buy the materials from the NPCs. Now i just farm everything even though it can take very very long and is a pain in the *** but now i can sell robes and cowls for about 12k to 7k (some color tints are hard to get atm).
One day maybe:
#5 Oct 03 2010 at 5:58 AM Rating: Good
Ya, that's the frustrating part right now, everyone you look at is selling stuff from level 1 mobs. Unfortunately right now, things are generally priced at what you're willing to pay for them. I paid 65k for a chocobotail saw, overpriced? Probably, ingredients hardly cost that, but, just to get it done, it involved about 3 people. So after the 3 split the costs of it, they make about 21k each, which isn't that great. To me the price was right, I actually started succeeding my level 15 leve quests, and gained a few levels in carpentry.

As for other items that are being mass produced, just do a bit of research online to see what it should be worth. I geared my Archer and my Carpenter (with crafting) gear for very cheap since everyone and their mother is leveling weaving.

The biggest issue right now is EVERYONE is leveling a craft, only those who get way ahead will manage to make any profit right now. But I do agree seeing 20 willow and Lauan Masks for 10k a pop is ridiculous seeing how it requires very little to make them. Once the game's been out for a couple months, we should see things start to settle. Even if they add an AH at this point, all you'll see about 1000 sets of every low level item.

#6 Oct 03 2010 at 6:14 AM Rating: Decent
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I think the worst part is retainers with plain names, I dont bother to check them. Now one named crystalz or miner or wood or armorcraft.....etc. my personnel fav is weaponsandshields are the only ones I check. Ill never figure out why SE thought this was better than an AH, dont they play the game?
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#7 Oct 03 2010 at 6:23 AM Rating: Decent
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Our market ward is empty save for the first two wards, the second one only has like 3 people in it. And nothing useful in either of them.

It would be great if each servers population agreed on set items for each ward until SE does it for us by naming them properly.

Then again alot of people don't even know the market ward exists.
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#8 Oct 03 2010 at 6:45 AM Rating: Excellent
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I wouldn't really blame the players having retainers with plain names. What if ya decide to sell something completely different at some point? Since everything can be leveled. Trying to collect all your banked stuff, kicking her / him, making a new one with a new name, swapping back all items? clue if that's so great. Also I'm not sure if I want to see 100 retainers on screen called Swordsandshields and other variations of that, or 100 with nice names making them appear like real people in the world (immersion and stuff like that).

No sorry, I fully blame SE for that kinda crap. The other thing though, people selling cheap nonsense for tons of gil, yea, that be their fault for being insane and without any kind of respect or common sense. Sad enough that most of them probably expect to sell all of that stuff. Then again, those actually purchasing such insanely priced items are just as guilty.

Curious to see what happens once the wards are getting their (semi useful) update. At least it should be a bit less chaotic and confusing from then on. Me's hoping for more to come, nontheless.

Edited, Oct 3rd 2010 8:47am by FanciatheDragonkeeper
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#9 Oct 03 2010 at 7:02 AM Rating: Decent
To the OP

You forget that perhaps that some of these players may be new to the game, and it's fully justified that they may think that a piece of mole meat should sell for, as per your example, 10k in Gil.

In time, hopefully, these players will learn to check all the other bazaars and find that they are costing things too high.

Patience is a thing that many players will never have, though...

AS for the current system, I agree that random names do make it chaotic at times, and the fact that you may find something that takes your fancy so you buy it, only to browse through 50 bazaars later to find your bought item way cheaper...hopefully, the next update for ward categorization will help, even if for a little bit.

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#10 Oct 03 2010 at 8:12 AM Rating: Excellent
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hanibalz wrote:
I think the worst part is retainers with plain names, I dont bother to check them. Now one named crystalz or miner or wood or armorcraft.....etc. my personnel fav is weaponsandshields are the only ones I check.

I've heard this before and personally I think its just stupid. I'm not going to create a new retainer and name him something different every time I have something different to sell. I'm not going to end up with a retainer named "Armor" when I need to sell weapons and crafting items.
#11 Oct 03 2010 at 8:51 AM Rating: Good
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I Would just check all the wards. I know its a little minute of trouble, but you will maybe find subcultures of thoughtful people. Sometimes linkshells, like the one i was in during closed beta 3, try to set up shop in a separate ward. usually these micro economies are more thought out, and organized. on the server i play now, istory, around the 3rd or 4th ward, things get more empty and organized. That's usually the first place i go to when i feel like browsing. if you see a ward that has only a handful of people in them, they're more worth your time checking than the first two wards.
#12 Oct 03 2010 at 9:20 AM Rating: Default
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The naming issue wouldn't even be a problem is SE would just let players set a short line of text above their retainer's name, much like nearly every other single MMO that utilizes a similar economy system. But no, SE decided to be stubborn and thickheaded and decided that it'd be a good idea to have a completely player driven economy with very little organization and communication relating to trade.

I honestly don't care about the stupidly high prices or having to search through the laggy market wards every so often (obviously an AH or at least a search function would be preferred, but I'm not going to beat the dead horse). What I do mind is having my time wasted by these clowns selling garbage, the server lag is bad enough when going through retainers, and I guarantee even after the market wards are renamed, 90% of these same morons are going to flood the first ward with useless goods.
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