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#1 Oct 03 2010 at 7:02 PM Rating: Decent
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A lot players claim there is a party bug,

Could those who experienced this please post specific details on how you get it?

1. Level differences
2. Party size
3. Location
4. Target monster type
5. Specific class you were using
6. Specific class your party were using.
7. Did you change weapons in between the party (change class)
8. Any other particular things happened? Like leveled? or died ? or extended periods where you are away or not participate in any action of the party?

Seeing how many players claim this was found on phase 2, i think this might have something to do with specific condition. Since not all players experiences this problem. (i never did)
#2TaruHunk, Posted: Oct 03 2010 at 7:39 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) [poll]
#3 Oct 03 2010 at 7:45 PM Rating: Default
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First time only one party member. Second time 3 party members. Level 10 conj at camp skull of limsa both times happened when I accepted invite.
#4 Oct 03 2010 at 8:12 PM Rating: Good
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Taruhunk it's not a vote, it's a survery. He wants people to answer each point so we can gather enough info to find a cause.

You should edit that poll out of your post so people don't just click one and move on.

Edited, Oct 3rd 2010 10:14pm by RattyBatty
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#5 Oct 04 2010 at 11:12 AM Rating: Default
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Sense: this thread makes none

P.S. - can someone please turn this post into a poll as well, thank you

Edited, Oct 4th 2010 1:14pm by DonFlamenco
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#6 Oct 04 2010 at 11:19 AM Rating: Default
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Anyone in a party 3+ or larger experiences it, whether you notice it or not. If you consistently party - it will eventually effect you. Not having it effect you because you killed a mob or two with a party of 4 is not a large enough sample size to matter. I've experienced this on 3 different classes, with my 'static trio' through almost every region below R30 - so I highly doubt it has anything to do with a mob, class, or any other variable WE can detect.

OH WAIT - I completely forgot, I was drinking Dr. Pepper in almost all of the instances where it happened -so that is obviously the culprit(since it's the only 'static variable').

Edited, Oct 4th 2010 1:20pm by loyaltrekie
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#7 Oct 04 2010 at 11:36 AM Rating: Good
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Please state what you mean by 'party bug'?
#8 Oct 04 2010 at 11:42 AM Rating: Decent
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There is no "claiming" about it, everyone who has partied for a significant amount of time has been hit with this bug. The difference is whether they understand how the SP system works, and most do not. You are not actually awarded SP until the end-battle-total-up. That is what most people can not grasp. If that total-up message doesn't appear at the end of battle, you receive NO SP, despite all mid-battle messages claiming you "Gain" 30 SP, 80 SP, Etc...

Edited, Oct 4th 2010 1:44pm by Furia
#9 Oct 04 2010 at 12:00 PM Rating: Good
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What is the bug? I hear people talking about this bug but I've never seen anyone explain what it actually is. It's just "The party bug is bad! Everyone has the party bug! Even if you don't think you have it, you have secretly contracted the party bug! You probably got it from a hooker! It's dirty!" So I don't really get it. I play grouped with my wife constantly but that's only 2 people so I guess it wouldn't affect us.
#10 Oct 04 2010 at 12:24 PM Rating: Decent
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I just want to see what is the cause of that.

I partied as well, i don't see any SP skill up as well. But however, as a conj even solo, time from time i have monster that give no SP.

Did you know that if the monster is Killed by shock spike will cause no experiences in return ?

Some people suggest it is cause by the fact the monster has reset at the end of the battle. So i assume that has to be certain angles as well.

If you don't want to do it, it is fine. It might just give SE more general information about the SP bugs. And if we can identify the cause of it (as everything have a cause) you can also avoid it.

Does it help if you drop party or return? Does it help if you change classes? Does it help if you run out of range and return back?

Need more trial and error to figure it out.
#11 Oct 04 2010 at 1:23 PM Rating: Good
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Perhaps examples will make it more clear:

This is a NORMAL log

You Engage the Dodo

You Gain 30 SP
You Gain 40 SP
You Gain 80 SP

You Defeat the Dodo

You Gain 600 XP
You Gain 150 SP


This is a NORMAL log

You Engage the Dodo

You Defeat the Dodo

You Gain 600 XP


This is a GLITCHED log

You Engage the Dodo

You Gain 40 SP
You Gain 70 SP
You Gain 20 SP

You Defeat the Dodo

You Gain 600 XP


You will notice in the glitched log there is no SP total-up when the mob dies, ergo, you actually receive no SP. SP is awarded based solely on the total-up, not the mid-battle procs. Rejoining and relogging do not affect the glitch.

#12 Oct 04 2010 at 1:45 PM Rating: Good
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Is this actually confirmed or just a misunderstanding?

Often i'll get two to 3 notices of gaining 150-300 class xp during the battle and then a single 150 class xp at the end along with the physical xp notice.... my math may be broken, but 200-300 xp does not equal 150 at the end to be totaled.

I'll have to retest when i get off work, but i was under the impression (which could be wrong) that the class xp gain is determined trough a semi random formula each time you perform an action while engaged in combat with a mob and awarded as earned and not at the end of the battle.... Will test as soon as possible though.. i'm intrigued.

#13 Oct 04 2010 at 2:36 PM Rating: Decent
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furia has it down, happens to me constantly i have checked my logs and numbers and I am in fact, not getting sp. It seems to happen more often the bigger the party is for me.
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