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#1 Oct 04 2010 at 11:41 AM Rating: Decent
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well I think I am about done with this game

the game is beautiful and I had lots of fun the first couple days
I can handle the lag and interface issues and all the other problems this game has but the lack of an auction house has really effected my play

I have been 5 days and gotten 6 PL's trying to find a new lancer weapon and have only seen 1(lvl 9 harpoon) and they wanted 50k for it
I have spent hours shouting and searching bazaars, such a big waist of my valuable gametime

that is a rediculous price for such a low lvl weapon and I refuse to pay that much

I will give it a couple more days but I really don't know what they were thinking when they decided to not put an AH in the game
#2 Oct 04 2010 at 11:52 AM Rating: Good
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I don't think 50k is very much. I have 400k just from doing my guildleves every 36 hours.
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#3 Oct 04 2010 at 11:55 AM Rating: Decent
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That doesn't sound like such a bad price. You can easily sell shards for 100-200 gil per. It's fairly easy to get 100+ shards, and at the price I mentioned you would get at least 10k per 100. There are various types of shards as well so if you save them up until you have 100 and then sell them in groups like that you could easily make 50k. Also you could pick up a craft and sell things for those "ridiculous prices", that might help.
#4 Oct 04 2010 at 11:57 AM Rating: Decent
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50k is not that much for a weapon of that level. NPCs sell weapons of that level for around 30k. I'm not sure if you have done much crafting yourself, but it takes quite a bit to get to the level and all the materials you need to make certain weapons. 50k is very reasonable.

Edited, Oct 4th 2010 1:59pm by SleeplessMickey
#5 Oct 04 2010 at 11:57 AM Rating: Default
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hm there is usually a city that sells a weapon for each class but it does cost a bit of money. Leves do get you alot of money though @_@. 1.4mil and i don't even craft ;/

Hang in there !
#6 Oct 04 2010 at 11:57 AM Rating: Decent
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Money is retardedly easy to get. If you gave in and just bought the harpoon and continued leveling you'd get that 50k back in a very short time.

When I want something, I generally buy it.

65,000 for a piece of undyed canvas. Horribly overpriced but at the time (three days ago) about 4 people on the server could make them and 65k was the cheapest one.

Now I have my Birdsbeak hammer and have more than made my 65k back.

Gil is not the same beast it was in ffxi.

Don't be miserly with it, it comes and goes... the higher you get the easier it comes. Sooner or later the people who overcharge for things will become less and less able to do so... or what is more likely to happen, since gil is so easy to get the prices they thought were overcharging will be about fair.

Lancers do have the worst of it though, since no vendors sell any of their weapons. But if you actually take the time to look into what makes a bone harpoon you'll realize that the person selling it for 50k... probably only making about 10k off it. Unless they spent the time to level smithing, goldsmithing, carpentry, fishing, and alchemy to do everything themselves. in which case... I think they earned it.

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#7 Oct 04 2010 at 12:03 PM Rating: Good
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So what are you saving your money for anyway?
#8 Oct 04 2010 at 12:05 PM Rating: Good
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sylph19 wrote:
So what are you saving your money for anyway?

Probably weed and funyuns.
#9 Oct 04 2010 at 12:07 PM Rating: Decent
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An AH wouldn't stabilize the prices any quicker than it would take for it to naturally stabilize. The reason being there's not a ton of people actually making weapons most are actually working on armors and accessories since they're the easiest to make and require only 1 craft unless you want to make EVERY material yourself.

See here's the issue with the "need an AH argument"--it still requires players to create and populate the AH with their items, much like the retainer/personal bazaars as we're experiencing now. Many want an AH but it's not going to instantly solve all our problems, the game's economy is still brand new, it will take time for things to stabilize even in this type of economy.

Even a week later people are still trying to sell bone rings for more than 10k. The people who sell things for reasonable prices will be known and get a lot of the business compared to billy bob who sells everything for 70k-300k no matter if it costs 1k to make or 500g to make.

I don't know if you've played FFXI, but in 2005 I think the gil selling websites sold a million gil for $1, you can guess who long it took for the AH to become worthless when it comes to even HQ items which cost up to 10x less than their NQ equivalent, it took months for it to stabilize and there's still some people today who's swimming in all of the gil they made then. The reason this is, A LOT of gil came into circulation but didn't really go anywhere for the longest, in FFXIV you get like 10-20k per leve and even higher on higher difficulties and sharing/linking with others so a lot of gil is entering the system which is why it may seem like a lot at first it really isn't that much when you realize most people who played since CE has multiple hundreds of thousands of gil and even millions. Once SE throws in gil sinks everything will stabilize much quicker.

An AH would be nice but when talking about an economy regardless the medium it will take time for everything to stabilize.

`Sides, everyone is too busy running around wanting to look like an Assassin's Creed reject to really bother with weapons lol. So it's frustrating but the game is still new once everything gets stabilized it won't be so bad--50k is a lot for someone just starting off and not up to snuff on their leves but in general it's not that much with how much gil you'll end up with very quickly.

Once we get our 100,000g bird rental fee and 300,000 airship fees people won't be able to charge that much for very long.
#10 Oct 04 2010 at 12:10 PM Rating: Decent
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My guild mate pointed out that there is an Auction House area in LL. Go to the docks and one the side doors leads to a place that looks like an AH with the sign n' all but isn't open yet. So it looks like there will be one..
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#11 Oct 04 2010 at 12:21 PM Rating: Decent
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I did play ffxi for many years and part of my problem is I am still in that mindset as far as gil goes but my big issue is after spending days searching and waisting many hours I have only seen 1 lvl 9 harpoon

I do understand that things will be more expensive now than later but an ah would make thing 100x easier to locate and purchase

when I did see the 1 harpoon I only had 40k and tried to talk to the seller but they just turned and walked away without even acknowledging that I was standing there right beside them,I could even understand that if they didn't speak english but I even used the auto translate system after my first attempt and the toons name made me think they were from NA

I have all my crafting at lvl 6-11 and I will be able to make the harpoon myself soon if I can gather all the mats needed
#12 Oct 04 2010 at 12:28 PM Rating: Good
HolyCannoli wrote:
My guild mate pointed out that there is an Auction House area in LL. Go to the docks and one the side doors leads to a place that looks like an AH with the sign n' all but isn't open yet. So it looks like there will be one..

Speak to the NPC outside that establishment and you will see its not going to be an Auction House.
#13 Oct 04 2010 at 12:34 PM Rating: Decent
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50k as people have already pointed out.. is a decent price for a level 9 weapon.

If your frustrated that it took that long to find one.. Maybe you need to socialize more in game. It is an MMO. I was in a Guild where there were crafters swapping out stuff for this and that.. We could Make LOTS of stuff and had our characters equipped with what we needed.

Cause you know.. We worked together.

Shocking... but I think that is the idea behind a NO AH system.

In WOW or any other MMO that has an AH... Do you remember the person you bought stuff from? More than likely it was some reseller marking up prices.

Join a Linkshell. Makes some friends.. Start ONE Crafting profession and you can trade your stuff to other professions as well.
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