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#1 Oct 04 2010 at 9:08 PM Rating: Default
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Your game is finally going to be released on December the 7th, don't let the door hit you on your way out.
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#2 Oct 04 2010 at 9:13 PM Rating: Good
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Way to be even more ignorant than the people your trying to take a jab at. I played FFXI for 6 years, and I can honestly say in my opinion that SE dropped the ball with the release. This needed way more time before it was released in the state its in. I have never played WOW for a second in my life and probably never will.

So you think that just because you like the game doesn't give us the right to be angry if we do not. Most of the people who are mad are FFXI vets and long time supporters of SE who can't take this BS from them anymore.
#3 Oct 04 2010 at 9:14 PM Rating: Excellent
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Sir Zalim wrote:
Your game is finally going to be released on December the 7th, don't let the door hit you on your way out.
The f*ck comes out dec 7th? I want to play FFXIV, and I want it to not suck.
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#4 Oct 04 2010 at 9:15 PM Rating: Good
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come on jeeez. this is another thread to do with haters.
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Hello Kitty, Adventure Island 2?!
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WillCider wrote:
Way to be even more ignorant than the people your trying to take a jab at. I played FFXI for 6 years, and I can honestly say in my opinion that SE dropped the ball with the release. This needed way more time before it was released in the state its in. I have never played WOW for a second in my life and probably never will.

So you think that just because you like the game doesn't give us the right to be angry if we do not. Most of the people who are mad are FFXI vets and long time supporters of SE who can't take this BS from them anymore.



The game is fun and the graphics are beautiful. Why are you so angry?
#7 Oct 04 2010 at 9:18 PM Rating: Good
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ButterflyM wrote:
WillCider wrote:
Way to be even more ignorant than the people your trying to take a jab at. I played FFXI for 6 years, and I can honestly say in my opinion that SE dropped the ball with the release. This needed way more time before it was released in the state its in. I have never played WOW for a second in my life and probably never will.

So you think that just because you like the game doesn't give us the right to be angry if we do not. Most of the people who are mad are FFXI vets and long time supporters of SE who can't take this BS from them anymore.



The game is fun and the graphics are beautiful. Why are you so angry?


I'm angry because we paid for the release of a Beta.
#8 Oct 04 2010 at 9:19 PM Rating: Excellent
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Sir Zalim wrote:
Your game is finally going to be released on December the 7th, don't let the door hit you on your way out.


I don't really understand this post. I haven't seen anyone wanting FFXIV to be like World of Warcraft unless you are referring to people wanting things polished. People are talking about the UI and how limiting it is. That's not asking for the game to be turned into WoW. It's not wrong or to much to ask for the game interface to be responsive. To have more to it then crafting or having quest limited by a timer. For the game not to crash. Or for the game to actually explain some of it's own actual systems in game itself.

Now if those aren't a concern for some people that's okay then I guess. Everyone has a different threshold for what they're willing to accept and deal with. However to say there is nothing wrong with the game is crazy I think. There are a number things wrong but I still like different aspects. No one outright dislikes everything about the game from what I can tell. If they did I'd question why they even picked up the game. I enjoy the graphics and the overall setting of the world. I like being able to change between classes. I don't mind the quest system though the timer is annoying. However when something like the actual UI causes me frustration and difficulty in actually playing the game I'm not going to be quiet about it. Nor should anyone else.

That said I am looking forward to the new WoW expansion. I've been playing the game off and one since it was released. It wasn't my first MMO though. Everquest: Ruins of Kunark (EQ1) has that honor. I also want to enjoy FFXIV. However if SE isn't going to address some basic issues with the game (not even getting into actual content) then it shouldn't be a surprise if people leave or complain.
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#10 Oct 04 2010 at 9:20 PM Rating: Good
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I get it. Cataclysm.

Why does everyone hate blizzard?
#11 Oct 04 2010 at 9:24 PM Rating: Good
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WillCider wrote:
ButterflyM wrote:
WillCider wrote:
Way to be even more ignorant than the people your trying to take a jab at. I played FFXI for 6 years, and I can honestly say in my opinion that SE dropped the ball with the release. This needed way more time before it was released in the state its in. I have never played WOW for a second in my life and probably never will.

So you think that just because you like the game doesn't give us the right to be angry if we do not. Most of the people who are mad are FFXI vets and long time supporters of SE who can't take this BS from them anymore.



The game is fun and the graphics are beautiful. Why are you so angry?


I'm angry because we paid for the release of a Beta.


You paid for Final Fantasy XIV. You got Final Fantasy XIV. If there was something misleading on the back of the box in the description of the game, I'd say you have an argument. But there isn't.

So you don't like the game. /cry.

I love the game. I'm sorry you don't. Play a different game. Find a forum for a game you like, and hang out there. Say /goodbye to the FFXIV forums and take a deep breath, because your life will go on.
#13 Oct 04 2010 at 9:26 PM Rating: Excellent
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So is this the way you show how much more mature and refined you are compared to all the cretins of the WoW community?
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Hello Kitty, Adventure Island 2?!


Oh my god, really? =O I can't wait!
I hear they're introducing a system where you can design your own outfits!
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#15 Oct 04 2010 at 9:45 PM Rating: Default
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Dont you know that it is not very cool to like this game.

The cool kids have decided that only idiots like playing FFXIV - the community has decided - expect to be Karma bombed! bye!
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#16 Oct 04 2010 at 9:52 PM Rating: Excellent
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HallieXIV wrote:
Condescending generalization of people who find the problems in the game to be big enough and plentiful enough to complain about.
Come on now.
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#17 Oct 04 2010 at 9:55 PM Rating: Default
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bsphil wrote:
HallieXIV wrote:
Condescending generalization of people who find the problems in the game to be big enough and plentiful enough to complain about.
Come on now.


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#18 Oct 04 2010 at 10:07 PM Rating: Default
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Sir Zalim wrote:
Your game is finally going to be released on December the 7th, don't let the door hit you on your way out.


I don't really understand this post. I haven't seen anyone wanting FFXIV to be like World of Warcraft unless you are referring to people wanting things polished. People are talking about the UI and how limiting it is. That's not asking for the game to be turned into WoW. It's not wrong or to much to ask for the game interface to be responsive. To have more to it then crafting or having quest limited by a timer. For the game not to crash. Or for the game to actually explain some of it's own actual systems in game itself.

Now if those aren't a concern for some people that's okay then I guess. Everyone has a different threshold for what they're willing to accept and deal with. However to say there is nothing wrong with the game is crazy I think. There are a number things wrong but I still like different aspects. No one outright dislikes everything about the game from what I can tell. If they did I'd question why they even picked up the game. I enjoy the graphics and the overall setting of the world. I like being able to change between classes. I don't mind the quest system though the timer is annoying. However when something like the actual UI causes me frustration and difficulty in actually playing the game I'm not going to be quiet about it. Nor should anyone else.

That said I am looking forward to the new WoW expansion. I've been playing the game off and one since it was released. It wasn't my first MMO though. Everquest: Ruins of Kunark (EQ1) has that honor. I also want to enjoy FFXIV. However if SE isn't going to address some basic issues with the game (not even getting into actual content) then it shouldn't be a surprise if people leave or complain.


Yea, I love messing around with the 500lb gorilla. It makes things interesting since its everybody's' favorite game. If FFXIV was my first MMO the only thing I probably would hate is server lag.
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#19 Oct 04 2010 at 10:08 PM Rating: Decent
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Tanstalas1 wrote:
Hello Kitty, Adventure Island 2?!


In a serious note. I plan to visit the Hello Kitty Land in Japan when I visit there in a few months... People back home wont believe it exists!
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#20 Oct 04 2010 at 10:08 PM Rating: Excellent
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I am actually shocked by how many people think this game is a MMO.

FFXIV has created a new video game classification: DADTADCUFARAA (Don't Ask, Don't Tell, And Don't Contact Us, For any reason at all) Welcome to the NHK.
#21 Oct 04 2010 at 10:19 PM Rating: Good
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I'm angry because we paid for the release of a Beta.


no, this game is *not* beta. as someone who was in beta for a few months, i can tell you, this game is leaps and bounds above where it was.

there are still issues, mostly pertaining to server stability and lag, as well as group fights (they need a better, more intuitive targeting system) but for the most part its simple UI stuff and quality-of-life improvements.

this game is nowhere near in the beta phase. ask anyone who played SWG when it first "came out" and theyll tell you what its like to pay for a beta.
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#22 Oct 05 2010 at 12:18 AM Rating: Good
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ButterflyM wrote:
WillCider wrote:
Way to be even more ignorant than the people your trying to take a jab at. I played FFXI for 6 years, and I can honestly say in my opinion that SE dropped the ball with the release. This needed way more time before it was released in the state its in. I have never played WOW for a second in my life and probably never will.

So you think that just because you like the game doesn't give us the right to be angry if we do not. Most of the people who are mad are FFXI vets and long time supporters of SE who can't take this BS from them anymore.



The game is fun and the graphics are beautiful. Why are you so angry?


cant belive you cant see the flaw of the game
#23 Oct 05 2010 at 1:01 AM Rating: Excellent
Here I thought this was going to be an intelligent rebuttal to the crybabies and whiners. Then I clicked on it to find another brainless barb from a WoW-hating douchenozzle. Go figure. Can't win for trying.
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^^ this
#25 Oct 05 2010 at 1:35 AM Rating: Default
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WillCider wrote:
ButterflyM wrote:
WillCider wrote:
Way to be even more ignorant than the people your trying to take a jab at. I played FFXI for 6 years, and I can honestly say in my opinion that SE dropped the ball with the release. This needed way more time before it was released in the state its in. I have never played WOW for a second in my life and probably never will.

So you think that just because you like the game doesn't give us the right to be angry if we do not. Most of the people who are mad are FFXI vets and long time supporters of SE who can't take this BS from them anymore.



The game is fun and the graphics are beautiful. Why are you so angry?




I'm angry because we paid for the release of a Beta.


You're angry because you've never been in the release of an mmo before and didn't realize every one of them is like this. Lesson learned eh buddy.
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In all seriousness though, if you are genuinly unhappy with FFXIV now take a few months break or just quit till they change/fix it. If you don't do this Square will think they game is fine, no they don't listen to feedback and complaining if people keep paying. If you arent prepared to back your complaining up then you should stop moaning about the game right now, the OP is right in that regard. If you want to make this game better don't pay the monthly fee till you see them taking your concerns seriously, it will be better in the long term cause money is probably the only launguage the devs understand. They will ignore everything else.

Turn FFIV into a ghostown and maybe they will listen then, tell your friends how bad it is and fight the urge to pay them anything more till they take steps to better this games probems and insulting state of release. If you moan and keep paying you are telling Square you are happy with the game and confirming their arrogance, if you do that the game will never change.

So of you arent prepared to back up your disatisfaction stop complaining and just play it warts and all, Square don't care what you think because they think the majoriy of complainers will keep paying as they did on FFXI. This is why they are doing what they did at relase and ignoring everyone, they consider us stupid.
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#27 Oct 05 2010 at 2:04 AM Rating: Excellent
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Why does everyone hate blizzard?


Its cool to hate giant business. Microsoft get a lot of hate, Google gets a lot of hate, generally anyone who is seen as a market dominator is turned into some evilcorp in the eyes of Joe Public. I am sure some psychologist could give this effect a proper name :)

I can't understand the level of "WoW bashing" that goes on here. Its really childish, like when you were 7 and used to argue with your mate who was better? Sonic or Mario? I don't play WoW. I have done in the past, I enjoyed it for quite a while, but its not the game for me. Some of my work mates play it, and when they tell me some of the new features or boss fights I say "That sounds kinda neat" out of politeness than anything and not "HURR DURR WOW IS EASY" then drool from the corner of my mouth.

Battleships is an easy and relatively skill-less game of chance. No one bashes Battleships though, do they!?
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#28 Oct 05 2010 at 2:10 AM Rating: Excellent
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you all need to stop hating on hello kitty online. its actually more fun than ffxiv. I beta tested the NA version of it and was one of the first north american game sages. Its surprisingly well designed, just had a bunch of small glitches and then they upped mob strength too much. But the quests are really cool and its fun. Try it before you use it as a joke >_>
#29 Oct 05 2010 at 2:57 AM Rating: Default
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More moan posts moan moan moan

Welcome to alla where people like to moan. As I said, dont like FFXIV in its current state come back in 6 months time.
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#30 Oct 05 2010 at 3:14 AM Rating: Excellent
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Sir Zalim wrote:
Your game is finally going to be released on December the 7th, don't let the door hit you on your way out.


They're re-releasing FFXI on December 7'th?
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#31 Oct 05 2010 at 3:22 AM Rating: Decent
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Kordain wrote:
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Why does everyone hate blizzard?


Its cool to hate giant business.


Same reason everyone hates any SE game.

Sadly, people get very fired up when it comes to faceless corporations, and feel the need to either defend or vilify them.
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#32 Oct 05 2010 at 3:24 AM Rating: Default
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Lobivopis wrote:
Sir Zalim wrote:
Your game is finally going to be released on December the 7th, don't let the door hit you on your way out.


They're re-releasing FFXI on December 7'th?


that was cringe... not funny! >.<
#33 Oct 07 2010 at 8:04 AM Rating: Good
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Today I ate chocolate pie with oreo crust while playing FFXIV. I enjoyed both.
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ButterflyM wrote:

The game is fun and the graphics are beautiful. Why are you so angry?

Zedanko wrote:
Today I ate chocolate pie with oreo crust while playing FFXIV. I enjoyed both.


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It all comes down to posturing and some thing, for the life of me I cannot understand, the need for people to group up on respective sides and have a go at one another. I'm going to say that it's peacocking, and nothing more.

Sort of like sports teams and their fans...I just don't understand it.


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the game's slightly *emphasis on slightly* better than beta was, but it's still a buggy release beta version that SE expects us to pay for.

and Hello Kitty Adventure Island 2? dude, i so have to pre-order it! I can't wait to have an angry kitty with a fluffy bat beating down dogs! hooray :o

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and excuse us SE loyal customers that demand quality on a MMO, we dont expect it to be perfect, but no game should be this crappy on release. it was rushed, and now SE has to deal with it.

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Copied directly from my own response on FFXIVCore to this same issue

Okay, let me break this down for you then. I promise to put down my h8rade if you'll take off the fanboy spectacles? Okay?

No one is saying that FFXIV should be a Final Fantasy-skinned WoW. No one is. As I mentioned in another thread on ZAM, there's NOTHING wrong with choosing to be different if the difference proves to be an innovation that has actual player benefit. This SHOULD be championed. FFXIV's "innovations" by and large are either outright omissions from in-game processes that SHOULD be complete, or are just poorly-conceived development choices to prevent people from gobbling down what little content there is. Missing mechanics are NOT innovations. Different does not always equal INNOVATIVE.

Moreover, paying customers who are upset they were provided an glaringly and unapologetically incomplete game have EVERY RIGHT to be upset and that doesn't mean "I WANT WOW" -- They want a game that they are not paying to beta for the PS3 release. How on earth is that not reasonable?

I'm no mental midget and I do not need everything spelled out to me, but I do prefer SOME guidance in the beginning of a game. Give me the absolute basics and I'll figure out the rest. This game doesn't even do that and goes out of its way to be obtuse. Obtuse doesn't equal "challenging" or "mature" -- It's again, just bad design.

The UI and game options dialogues, while completely obviously designed for the PS3, show little to no optimization or even consideration for the PC community, and that's bad enough. However, when you're releasing the game on the PC first and you show this level of well... laziness, lack of insight or basic logic, it really shows where SE's priorities are.

Okay, does THAT make more sense? God I hope so.
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OP, I love a lot of things about this game, and I am a long time fan of SE. However, there is a difference between being a fan, and being blindly loyal. While I love many things about this game, I can still step back and see many problems. I would love to defend SE, but the honest person in me won't let me lie to myself or others.

NO, I do not wish to go to another game. I have been waiting too long for a new mmorpg that has a strong focus on PvE and Story. FFXI had this, but I played it for like 7 years so I'm a bit tired of it. There simply arent any good options out there for me, becuase everything else out on the market is either all or mostly focused on PvP. Most of the games that do have PvE, are not very fun (ex: I played a couple of F2P mmorpgs that had no PvP, but didnt have any raiding or endgame, and barely any quests........wtf do you do after cap? And when I say PvE, I mean missions, quests, storyline, and endgame and not just an alternate grind meathod.

This game has a lot of potential, and I desperately want it to succede. I am going to stick with it til PS3, if a lot of the issues I see arent fixed I will assume that SE has no intention of fixing them. I am not one of these people getting upset because SE isnt fixing things fast enough. I am upset that SE isnt communicating very much with us. I would like a straight answer on some of these "issues" that I see. For all I know SE does not consider them problems, and the game is functioning as intended. If they do acknowledge the problems we see, could we get a schedule? You see its the lack of communication and SE's arrogance about there "art" that I am worried about. They are very proud of their masterpiece, and probably see it as near perfection. SE can be stubborn and resistant to change.

Initially I think I wanted a graphical updated version of FFXI with a new setting, new storyline without all the things that I did not like in FFXI. As the beta came along, I discovered that this was not what FFXIV was. However, it coming from SE, was good enough for me. This game has a few major things that I just NEED: ps3 playablity (when it comes out, zomg get me away from this PC), the ability to do my favorite role (tank), fun story line, great party system, and most importantly awesome endgame. However, it also has things I could do without, and some are small bugs we know will get fixed, others are game mechanics that I am worried are here to stay. SE has said many times that this is a work in progress, and they welcome all feedback. We will see how true that ultimately proves to be. As I said before, I will give them til ps3, to mold this into a well functioning game that has most of the things I want from an mmorpg. If they can achieve this, I will stay for good. If they can not, then I will leave........ don't know where I would go though??!!

Oh and yes it is a P2P Beta. The proof? Well in my mind, no one can convince me that a lack of a sort button was missed by SE. Every single FF game and most games of this type offline or online have a sort function. Do you really think SE missed this or thought that it wasn't needed? No my friends, they simply did not put it in the game before release. They were busy working thier asses off, just trying to get it ready for a September release, and along with a few other things just didnt make it in time. But I have no doubt that its coming. Not like AH, in which I am not sure its coming. They didnt forget an AH, they excluded it for their market system.
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#39 Oct 07 2010 at 12:12 PM Rating: Good
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Sir Zalim wrote:
Your game is finally going to be released on December the 7th, don't let the door hit you on your way out.

Oh wow what a huge insult to people who hate this game, at least the people quitting aren't going to be wasting their time with an underdeveloped piece of ****.
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