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#52 Oct 05 2010 at 8:17 PM Rating: Decent
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FFXIV is an unfinished product, but as unfinished products go I'd have to say its ******* awesome. Just picture the game with all the basic **** its missing fixed, plus more.
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#53 Oct 05 2010 at 8:21 PM Rating: Good
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MajidahSihaam wrote:
Just picture the game with all the basic sh*t its missing fixed, plus more.


Such a product I'd be happy to pay for

Edited, Oct 5th 2010 9:30pm by Callinon
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#54 Oct 05 2010 at 8:31 PM Rating: Excellent
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I get what they want; they want the game to "get better" and for people to "give us a chance to make it better".

But throw me in with the "If you're so displeased with your own product that you don't want people to review it, then why do you expect people to pay money for it?"

Release a product when it is ready to make you money, not when you are ready to make money off of it.

I mean, I know that they kinda rushed it to production because they wanted to try and beat everything else to market, but look at the cost. Overworked programmers, the entire **** dev team looks like they physically aged 10 years in the last 3 months, and the two most vocal opinions your playerbase has are "We're unhappy" and "We're tired of hearing the unhappy people complain".

Don't get me wrong: I'm not running for a life boat and I'm not jumping overboard, but when your flagship has taken on as much water as this one is, it's unrealistic to tell your passengers to wait and see if the lower levels get completely flooded before handing out life vests.

Just admit you ****** up, give people a second month free, and spend your time fixing the problems, instead of wasting time trying to spin the negative publicity.

I mean, my God, "Don't review the game yet"? Really? That's like telling someone not to give you a wedgie. Because in about 30 seconds, you can be **** sure you're about to get one.
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#55 Oct 05 2010 at 8:31 PM Rating: Good
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MajidahSihaam wrote:
FFXIV is an unfinished product, but as unfinished products go I'd have to say its @#%^ing awesome. Just picture the game with all the basic sh*t its missing fixed, plus more.


That is why I'm going to stick with the game, but I don't think FFXIV will ever become even half as popular as FFXI was.
#56 Oct 05 2010 at 8:32 PM Rating: Good
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Archmage Callinon wrote:
MajidahSihaam wrote:
Just picture the game with all the basic sh*t its missing fixed, plus more.


Such a product I'd be happy to pay for

Edited, Oct 5th 2010 9:30pm by Callinon


Indeed. We're all at least semi-placated now because we're still in our free 30 days, but the mood should start souring around Oct 22nd when people are paying for it.
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#57 Oct 05 2010 at 8:34 PM Rating: Good
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Wolfums wrote:
MajidahSihaam wrote:
FFXIV is an unfinished product, but as unfinished products go I'd have to say its @#%^ing awesome. Just picture the game with all the basic sh*t its missing fixed, plus more.


That is why I'm going to stick with the game, but I don't think FFXIV will ever become even half as popular as FFXI was.



...which is a pretty sad thing to say, despite the fact that FFXI will likely forever remain my favorite MMORPG unless XIV really picks up the pace. There were many things FF was. Challenging. Fun. Time consuming. Rewarding.

"Popular" is not an adjective that many would use to describe FFXI.
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#58 Oct 05 2010 at 8:36 PM Rating: Default
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Wolfums wrote:
MajidahSihaam wrote:
FFXIV is an unfinished product, but as unfinished products go I'd have to say its @#%^ing awesome. Just picture the game with all the basic sh*t its missing fixed, plus more.


That is why I'm going to stick with the game, but I don't think FFXIV will ever become even half as popular as FFXI was.


I don't see why not, XIV is pretty much XI.2
The only difference, which has been bothering me in its design is the lack of strategy and role-in-party for each class. It all feels like button mashing honestly. ****, even cure is an AOE. Seriously, that's ******* retarded. Its like they are pushing for button mashing. Also the lack of a specialized tank job. There are great ways to custom build your own tank, but seriously, who'd put that much effort into making a tank? Not the majority of players.
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#59 Oct 05 2010 at 8:48 PM Rating: Good
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MajidahSihaam wrote:
Wolfums wrote:
MajidahSihaam wrote:
FFXIV is an unfinished product, but as unfinished products go I'd have to say its @#%^ing awesome. Just picture the game with all the basic sh*t its missing fixed, plus more.


That is why I'm going to stick with the game, but I don't think FFXIV will ever become even half as popular as FFXI was.


I don't see why not, XIV is pretty much XI.2
The only difference, which has been bothering me in its design is the lack of strategy and role-in-party for each class. It all feels like button mashing honestly. ****, even cure is an AOE. Seriously, that's @#%^ing retarded. Its like they are pushing for button mashing. Also the lack of a specialized tank job. There are great ways to custom build your own tank, but seriously, who'd put that much effort into making a tank? Not the majority of players.


For the sake of argument: I would. I like tanking.
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#60 Oct 05 2010 at 9:08 PM Rating: Decent
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Archmage Callinon wrote:
MajidahSihaam wrote:
Just picture the game with all the basic sh*t its missing fixed, plus more.
Such a product I'd be happy to pay for
That'd be great. The day it comes out, I'd probably go straight to the nearest store that sells games to find it.
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#61 Oct 05 2010 at 9:35 PM Rating: Excellent
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I say...review it now. bash it. so they get all hands on deck and save it. There are a lot of issues causing many players grief in the game. I love the game to be honest, I really just hope they fix some not so well thought out crap.

Review now, bash it to ****, after they fix it, go into a review about how GREAT a patch was. This has happened to other games where a patch has turned it around, I think we are all hoping for a big patch this month. I think that is their current goal. Huge patch by november, they already got our monies :(
#62 Oct 05 2010 at 9:56 PM Rating: Default
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HA HA SE really if you do not want people to review your game don't release it.... Oh ya my movie came out Friday don't review it till a month later so i can make more money... and better maybe.
As for me I like the game it's fun but not a lot of content so i guess late October if the game has not changed then what?? wait another month? Come on SE knows the game should of been held back but they released the game in September to beat WoW expansion? yes, no, maybe only SE knows.

Everyone playing the game knows what the issues are. So it seems like this is the paid beta, even though the first month is free. SO is that why SE is asking to hold reviews? No one is paying for it yet unless you bought a new PC for this game...lol

All in all if you like SE and the FF series you will probably play this game and stay with it. I played FFXI for 6 years so it is a little tough to jump to this game with very very little content. I understand ffxi has had years of content and i can't wait till FFXIV starts to get it. I'm excited to see where this game goes.

I give it a 2.5 out of 5. The game is very promising and SE did a great job with content on FFXI so this game will turn out great.

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#63 Oct 05 2010 at 11:07 PM Rating: Good
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It's amazing how the language barrier seems to make trolls and conspiracy nuts seem more credible.

A very small number of people cherry-pick items to make it seem like it's obvious the game was made in China. Most people either ignore those people completely or pick up on it as a joke and spread it further under the assumption most people know it's just dry humor. Someone who runs an English-language, tabloid-esque blog he likes to think is a news site decides to present only the bad things everyone on the Internet is saying about the game in Japanese to his non-Japanese-speaking audience, including the "Chinese made" conspiracy/joke as a common theory backed up by facts. People who read that blog spread it to other places without the ability to understand any Japanese at all, let alone the nuances of the language and the country's Internet culture. Wider audience now actually believes that FFXIV development was outsourced to China. Blog writer revels in his ability to use a language barrier to invent news and make people believe something.

It's really quite interesting. As someone who studies linguistics and knows Japanese and English, the whole thing unfolding is honestly fascinating. It's like watching all those things I learned in school play out rapidly over the Internet. If I weren't so lazy, it would probably make an good topic for some kind of thesis.


Edit: Clearly with my English grammar abilities such a thesis is out of the question. Also, sorry this is so off-topic. I got caught up reading the comments on the linked blog and this is the result.

Edited, Oct 5th 2010 10:12pm by TheMoreYouKnow
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#64 Oct 05 2010 at 11:49 PM Rating: Good
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If I weren't so lazy, it would probably make an good topic for some kind of thesis.

You should do it . Sounds like an interesting read.

The internet and MMOs really are great labs for seeing various sociological demonstrations played out.

Edited, Oct 6th 2010 1:50am by RattyBatty
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#65 Oct 06 2010 at 8:16 AM Rating: Decent
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A review now will say the game is not complete and full of little quirks.

A review a month from now will say the game is not complete and full of little quirks and nothing got fix in the pass month.

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#66 Oct 06 2010 at 8:35 AM Rating: Good
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Look, this is very simple. The point at which a company starts asking people to pay for a product is the
point at which reviews should start. Any appeal to delay the initial reviews is an implicit admission that the product was not ready for a commercial release.
#67 Oct 06 2010 at 8:46 AM Rating: Decent
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MajidahSihaam wrote:

The only difference, which has been bothering me in its design is the lack of strategy and role-in-party for each class. It all feels like button mashing honestly. ****, even cure is an AOE. Seriously, that's @#%^ing retarded. Its like they are pushing for button mashing. Also the lack of a specialized tank job. There are great ways to custom build your own tank, but seriously, who'd put that much effort into making a tank? Not the majority of players.


Compare this to the first 20 levels of FFXI. Any melee job with WAR subbed could tank. Any mage with Cure II could main heal, I even remember the days of BLM/WHM main healing. We simply haven't achieved levels yet that require complex party mechanics. If level 50 rolls around and there is still a lack of job roles then I agree it's a problem. Until then we're all still noobs in the Dunes.
#68 Oct 06 2010 at 9:13 AM Rating: Good
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The last time there was a 30 day embargo on reviews it was Real Time World's APB and we know how that turned out.
#69 Oct 06 2010 at 9:58 AM Rating: Excellent
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Wolfums wrote:
They tried to compete with Cataclysm's release date and got burned hard for it.


Agree with this.

It really was a great time to release an MMO. Unfortunately, the one they released wasn't ready and the consequences could end up being even worse than if they had just waited. Rather than claiming/reclaiming some of WoW's player base, they could just end up alienating a lot of their own.

Hopefully people will have a little patience and SE will get the major issues fixed, but something certainly needs to be done.... SOON.
#70 Oct 06 2010 at 10:29 AM Rating: Default
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Somehow I think FFXIV's release will be known as the MMO Square Enix seriously ****ed up at launch. It's really down to whoever decided they needed to push and shove this game out the door so soon, hopefully those individuals will be fired. Anyway I agree (partially) with SE, wait until the game's been out a month before you give a true review. If the game really still tanks, then bash away, hate away, throw fecal matter at SE headquarters and kick every moogle you see in its kupballs.




Unfortunately...the reality is their first quarter profits will look GREAT on paper and any bad reviews of the game will be deflected upon the development team responsible for the quality of the product they produced.

As for giving FFXIV the "few more weeks" they have requested...so be it.

SE...You have 25 days until November 1st, 2010 to show people they weren't crazy for not laughing in your face when you had the 'nerve' to make such a request.

TICK...TICK...TICK...TICK...TICK.....



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GET TO IT!!!

Edited, Oct 6th 2010 12:36pm by PrometheusUnbound
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#71 Oct 06 2010 at 10:49 AM Rating: Good
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The hint that the reason for the delayed review is to give the game "time to mature."

Ha.

Methinks the real reason is they still want the wad of cash from the initial sale of the game disk before people cancel their subscriptions.
#72 Oct 06 2010 at 10:57 AM Rating: Excellent
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MajidahSihaam wrote:

I don't see why not, XIV is pretty much XI.2


FFXIV has a **** of a long way to go to be worthy of being called FFXI-2.
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