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#1 Oct 07 2010 at 2:30 AM Rating: Decent
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The honeymoon is over. The beer googles have worn off. I opened my eyes at my once beautiful character but all I see is a Troll starring back at me.

Its not going to be easy, and I'm sure I'll relapse a few times because no one ever wants it to "be over".

Even the forums here have lost something. I used to constantly be energized coming here to read the threads but they seem fewer in number and uh lets just say the topic of conversation has changed. If there is an Emergency patch that "fixes" the game suddenly make sure someone gets on the bat phone before I do something stupid like I dunno, get a girlfriend.

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#2 Oct 07 2010 at 2:46 AM Rating: Decent
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Well, this sucks, huh?

It's all fun and games until people actually start quitting.

Now I kind of feel bad for S-E, they only got to ride the fame of FFVII for a decade or so...looks like this is about it for the wide-eyed masses' love affair with S-E. But who am I kidding, right? We'll all be playing FFXIII versus and agito, and FFXV.

The insanity will never end.

And if things do start to look really bad for S-E, they'll just toss that FFVII remake we've been crying for, then it'll be another 10 years of sweet S-E lovin'.

#3 Oct 07 2010 at 2:56 AM Rating: Good
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My content ID will also not be renewing when billing goes live.

Pending same fixes.
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#4 Oct 07 2010 at 3:12 AM Rating: Good
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Won't pay for what we have now. If a patch comes and fix the worst things i'll continue playing of course.
I do not think all things turn into gold after one patch but at least the biggest stuff should be fixed. There are about 3 weeks left for SE to do something. I guess they will.
#5 Oct 07 2010 at 3:25 AM Rating: Decent
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I never understand why people feel hey must make their exit known to others. It's one thing to be a long time player saying goodbye to friends. Or being an established player bowing out after years of play.

But to say "I'm not playing past the first free month see ya" Is just absurd. Honestly you won't be missed. You've made no impact upon the server you played on, nor with any of the people you played along side. So whats the point of saying so?

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#6 Oct 07 2010 at 3:29 AM Rating: Decent
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Well, this sucks, huh?

It's all fun and games until people actually start quitting.

Now I kind of feel bad for S-E, they only got to ride the fame of FFVII for a decade or so...looks like this is about it for the wide-eyed masses' love affair with S-E. But who am I kidding, right? We'll all be playing FFXIII versus and agito, and FFXV.

The insanity will never end.

And if things do start to look really bad for S-E, they'll just toss that FFVII remake we've been crying for, then it'll be another 10 years of sweet S-E lovin'.

If anything there at least important lessons to learn, I know this is the last time I update my PC for a game before actually trying it, next time I open my wallet for a game it will be backed up with some previous experience or at least a good collection of positive reviews.

And I'm pretty sure a remake won't change this opinion.

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#7 Oct 07 2010 at 4:10 AM Rating: Good
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I tried, I really did. I will even give it a second chance. If things haven't drastically improved in 20 days, I'll just have to cancel that awesome Click&Buy account I made and go play some Wii Sports or something.

Have fun, guys.
#8 Oct 07 2010 at 4:12 AM Rating: Decent
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I'll decide to play or not once the free month is gone. At the rate it's going, looks like I'll never try XIV...which I suspect is the case for more MMO players.
#9 Oct 07 2010 at 4:42 AM Rating: Default
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Honestly you won't be missed. You've made no impact upon the server you played on, nor with any of the people you played along side. So whats the point of saying so?

Players who ARE wikipedia and every other user-supplied-information sites want to say "F-you."

Edited, Oct 7th 2010 6:42am by RattyBatty
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#10 Oct 07 2010 at 5:55 AM Rating: Excellent
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Moxley wrote:
The honeymoon is over. The beer googles have worn off.


You should have noticed that that miqo'te seemed awfully tall and broad shouldered. Let this be a lesson to you lest you wake up next to a roegadyn again.



Edited, Oct 7th 2010 8:58am by Lobivopis
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#11 Oct 07 2010 at 6:23 AM Rating: Decent
I'm out as well. I have no interest in playing this game. I wanted more, but more importantly I wanted basics in place at a bare minimum.

I was one of those people who shrugged off the terrain repetition (still doesn't matter to me at all), and I kept an optimistic view through launch. Now I'm giving up until a lot of things get fixed and added. I might come back then and that will be my 'launch' experience.

This game made me download and try the free-to-play Everquest II. That's pathetic (I don't really dig that game either to tell the truth, but it screams on my new WTFBBQ FFXIV PC).
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#12 Oct 07 2010 at 6:43 AM Rating: Excellent
Like probably most people, I'm disappointed but not for all the same reasons. I try to imagine what FFXI was like when it first released in Japan. For starters, the main approach to skillups was not based on NPC quests but grinding; simply leaving town and killing stuff. I imagine quest NPCs will be limited and focused on more prominent characters. FFXIV is very similar in this regard only skilling up does not require full and balanced groups. And I don't mind the 8 leves per 36 hours much either since I don't see the leve system as the primary way to skillup but more of an alternative to mindless grinding, temporary boost to exp and sp gain, and chance to make some gil and be rewarded with occasional items.

If you all remember, FFXI was no walk in the park when you first start off. The hike to all the telepoints, avoiding mob aggro (that you can't shake off except by zoning), and the typical slow leveling. Of course, the slow leveling leads to a lot of elitist gamers that drop group if they aren't getting their ideal xp/hour (you know who you are =P) In any rate, it took me nearly a year to reach my first lvl 75. And I was no casual gamer.

Don't get me wrong, this game is messed up and I hope to see some serious changes. (Which I don't think I need to expand upon, you really don't have to look to hard to find them) However, the structure designed to progress through levels and ranks isn't a big issue in my opinion.

#13 Oct 07 2010 at 6:49 AM Rating: Good
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I'll decide to play or not once the free month is gone. At the rate it's going, looks like I'll never try XIV...which I suspect is the case for more MMO players.


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#14 Oct 07 2010 at 7:14 AM Rating: Good
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I'm staying.

Peace!
#15 Oct 07 2010 at 7:31 AM Rating: Default
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I never understand why people feel hey must make their exit known to others. It's one thing to be a long time player saying goodbye to friends. Or being an established player bowing out after years of play.

But to say "I'm not playing past the first free month see ya" Is just absurd. Honestly you won't be missed. You've made no impact upon the server you played on, nor with any of the people you played along side. So whats the point of saying so?



I agree. I'll be sticking it out as well. Peace out to all the whiners.
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#16 Oct 07 2010 at 8:48 AM Rating: Default
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I never understand why people feel hey must make their exit known to others. It's one thing to be a long time player saying goodbye to friends. Or being an established player bowing out after years of play.

Something about self-justification, I guess. Something to prove to the world that their decision was a right one. It's hard on their egos just to exit silently so they raise a stink/try to go out with a bang.
#17 Oct 07 2010 at 11:30 AM Rating: Good
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SevenLittleChipmunks wrote:
I never understand why people feel hey must make their exit known to others. It's one thing to be a long time player saying goodbye to friends. Or being an established player bowing out after years of play.

But to say "I'm not playing past the first free month see ya" Is just absurd. Honestly you won't be missed. You've made no impact upon the server you played on, nor with any of the people you played along side. So whats the point of saying so?




What's not to understand? They are letting people know that this game is driving people off, just as people expected. Makes you wonder, how many people are quitting and NOT posting about it? I would bet a lot more.
#18 Oct 07 2010 at 11:49 AM Rating: Default
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you people that moan about this game being so **** are like spoilt brats. the game has not long been released to the world therefore SE has the oppatunity to see how the servers runs with the rest of the world as they couldnt do that in the beta as it was only released to a few people.

i can understand after the 2nd month where you have paid for your first subscription and there has been no fixes. but come on guys its a trial month and they just released the dam game so stop being a mardy git and give it atleast another month or 2 before you say goodbye.

i hate the dam game sometimes but then i love it again once i find a dam place where there is great mobs spawned everywhere for lvl 16 and above, but all i do is spend 80% of the time looking for the basdards.

#19 Oct 07 2010 at 11:51 AM Rating: Default
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you people that moan about this game being so sh*t are like spoilt brats. the game has not long been released to the world therefore SE has the oppatunity to see how the servers runs with the rest of the world as they couldnt do that in the beta as it was only released to a few people.

i can understand after the 2nd month where you have paid for your first subscription and there has been no fixes. but come on guys its a trial month and they just released the dam game so stop being a mardy git and give it atleast another month or 2 before you say goodbye.

i hate the dam game sometimes but then i love it again once i find a dam place where there is great mobs spawned everywhere for lvl 16 and above, but all i do is spend 80% of the time looking for the basdards.



So basically you're saying you hate the game, but you want everyone to give SE a pass for shipping out a $50/$70 dollar vastly incomplete game and then spend MORE money on the game where SE isn't even stepping in and saying ANYTHING about the many, MANY problems it has?

No thanks! :D
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#20 Oct 07 2010 at 11:56 AM Rating: Decent
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like i said give them a chance its still the first month. people are just putting other people of the game because they are too ignorant to give the developers a chance to prove the game on what its ment to be.

#21 Oct 07 2010 at 11:59 AM Rating: Decent
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if you look at it this way.

the game faults are

too much lag
wierd auction house
sp not given to some party members
mobs spawns are too low



lets just say this maintenence sorts those 4 out will you hate or like the game.

either way someone will still complain about something else
#22 Oct 07 2010 at 12:07 PM Rating: Decent
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like i said give them a chance its still the first month. people are just putting other people of the game because they are too ignorant to give the developers a chance to prove the game on what its ment to be.



I've given the game a chance. Most people complaining have. we've paid our money, installed, then started to play. Thats the chance they deserve. If its a bad experience, thats it. The idea if suffering through something because it may get better is masochistic. I've read posts on here that sound like battered spouse syndrome. A good product wins people over form the start.

I'm actually happy when I see people still posting complaint threads, and asking if/when will improvements happen, because it means that they still actually care.
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#23 Oct 07 2010 at 12:09 PM Rating: Decent
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I made my decision to cancel my preorder after about 30 minutes of playing beta. I knew there was just too much wrong with the game to justify spending $75 on the game and a few hundred dollars upgrading my PC.

Nothing I have read on the forums has changed my mind one bit. The ONLY people defending the game are either rabid FF fanbois or folks that spent $1000 on a new PC and MUST justify the cost to themselves by sticking with the game.

Literally every single mechanic of this game is broken, not bugged, but broken at the very core. Simple bug fixes are not going to be enough to save this game. Nothing short of a complete overhaul of many of the core mechanics will be good enough to save this game.

I check these forums every few days hoping to see that the problems are fixed. That hasn't happened yet, but if it does I may grab a copy.
#24 Oct 07 2010 at 12:38 PM Rating: Decent
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I agree. I'm fairly happy with this game. I'm not spending 10 hours a day playing, so I just enjoy doing me leves, talking with friends, levelling up different crafts and jobs. I'm taking my time, doing what was meant to be done at this point. I'd like to see a maintenance before the end of the month, or at least a notice of a planned maintenance.

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So basically you're saying you hate the game, but you want everyone to give SE a pass for shipping out a $50/$70 dollar vastly incomplete game and then spend MORE money on the game where SE isn't even stepping in and saying ANYTHING about the many, MANY problems it has?


I can see where you're coming from, but coming in at the start of a MMO, I'd sure expect it to be incomplete. I'd hate to buy a MMO and that be it, that's the game. I expect more content to be added, and I'd expect them to be working on the bugs. I'd sure like them to be done faster, and yes I'd like to hear from them that they're working on fixing it, but in the meantime, this is what we have. In fact, the main thing I see wrong is that they don't seem to be acknoledging the bugs.
#25 Oct 07 2010 at 12:42 PM Rating: Decent
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I never understand why people feel hey must make their exit known to others.


Because it serves as a warning to other potential buyers who may be browsing the forum. Not everyone buys games the day of release. Some wait a week or two for precisely this reason.

I do the same thing when shopping for any consumer product be it new software, a rifle, or a lawn mower. I skip past the critic reviews and go right to the forums and get some first hand end user feedback. What kind of problems have people encountered? How has customer service responded? Do customers feel ripped off? Do representatives of the company visit the forums and deal with problems face to face? This kind of end user feedback is invaluable to consumers.

If every dissatisfied consumer simply sat quietly when they purchased a flawed product there would be no product recalls and no class action lawsuits in the world. Corporations would not be held accountable for the products they sold and they would have no incentive to try and set things right.
#26 Oct 07 2010 at 12:44 PM Rating: Decent
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I agree. I'm fairly happy with this game. I'm not spending 10 hours a day playing, so I just enjoy doing me leves, talking with friends, levelling up different crafts and jobs. I'm taking my time, doing what was meant to be done at this point. I'd like to see a maintenance before the end of the month, or at least a notice of a planned maintenance.

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So basically you're saying you hate the game, but you want everyone to give SE a pass for shipping out a $50/$70 dollar vastly incomplete game and then spend MORE money on the game where SE isn't even stepping in and saying ANYTHING about the many, MANY problems it has?


I can see where you're coming from, but coming in at the start of a MMO, I'd sure expect it to be incomplete. I'd hate to buy a MMO and that be it, that's the game. I expect more content to be added, and I'd expect them to be working on the bugs. I'd sure like them to be done faster, and yes I'd like to hear from them that they're working on fixing it, but in the meantime, this is what we have. In fact, the main thing I see wrong is that they don't seem to be acknoledging the bugs.


There's incomplete and there's nonfunctional. Not even the core functionality is working as intended here, and if this is genuinely how SE intended it, then I definitely have no interest in playing.
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Kinda funny that you guys mentioned Honeymoon and such. I just canceled my account yesterday for XIV and I still feel bad about it. I feel like I'm breaking up with a long term girlfriend or something, lol.

I'm surely going to keep an eye on the game though, maybe my issues that break the game for me will be fixed.
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#28 Oct 07 2010 at 1:23 PM Rating: Decent
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There's incomplete and there's nonfunctional. Not even the core functionality is working as intended here, and if this is genuinely how SE intended it, then I definitely have no interest in playing.


By nonfunctional, are you talking about the glitches in party play? I'm sorry, I haven't partied much outside of doing leves with friends. Yes, I'd love to hear them say something about this, if it's a glitch or what. Aside from that, what's not functioning?

I just got a message from a friend as I was typing this that there is a maintenance scheduled for tomorrow. Maybe that will fix some of the problems people have experienced.
#29 Oct 07 2010 at 2:00 PM Rating: Good
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SevenLittleChipmunks wrote:
I never understand why people feel hey must make their exit known to others. It's one thing to be a long time player saying goodbye to friends. Or being an established player bowing out after years of play.

But to say "I'm not playing past the first free month see ya" Is just absurd. Honestly you won't be missed. You've made no impact upon the server you played on, nor with any of the people you played along side. So whats the point of saying so?



The same could be said about you making the useless post I just quoted. Or myself making this useless post I'm typing as we speak. It's a game forum, he's not trolling, he used proper grammar, and he has a valid point that others have agreed with. I'd say it's more absurd of you to try calling him out on this if I'm being completely honest. >.>
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#30 Oct 07 2010 at 2:13 PM Rating: Good
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SevenLittleChipmunks wrote:
I never understand why people feel hey must make their exit known to others. It's one thing to be a long time player saying goodbye to friends. Or being an established player bowing out after years of play.

But to say "I'm not playing past the first free month see ya" Is just absurd. Honestly you won't be missed. You've made no impact upon the server you played on, nor with any of the people you played along side. So whats the point of saying so?




What's not to understand? They are letting people know that this game is driving people off, just as people expected. Makes you wonder, how many people are quitting and NOT posting about it? I would bet a lot more.


You'd be betting right.

The overwhelming majority of people who quit an MMO will not make a forum post about it, and will not even bother telling the developers why the quit, even if there's a feedback form as part of the quitting process.
#31 Oct 07 2010 at 2:15 PM Rating: Good
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you people that moan about this game being so sh*t are like spoilt brats. the game has not long been released to the world therefore SE has the oppatunity to see how the servers runs with the rest of the world as they couldnt do that in the beta as it was only released to a few people.

i can understand after the 2nd month where you have paid for your first subscription and there has been no fixes. but come on guys its a trial month and they just released the dam game so stop being a mardy git and give it atleast another month or 2 before you say goodbye.

i hate the dam game sometimes but then i love it again once i find a dam place where there is great mobs spawned everywhere for lvl 16 and above, but all i do is spend 80% of the time looking for the basdards.



We already paid for the game, it should be out of beta phase and in a workable condition. Calling people spoiled because they want something that works when they pay for it is sort of ridiculous. You don't buy a car and expect to purchase wheels for it later; they are supposed to come with the **** car.

The game has potential, and there are interesting things in it. For me it is like momentary enjoyable experiences between long periods of frustration. And no I'm not frustrated because the game is hard, I'm frustrated because it is nonsensical and cumbersome.

I don't see the point in paying SE so that I can work in their world when I get paid to work in the real world.
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#32 Oct 07 2010 at 2:25 PM Rating: Decent
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If anything there at least important lessons to learn, I know this is the last time I update my PC for a game before actually trying it, next time I open my wallet for a game it will be backed up with some previous experience or at least a good collection of positive reviews.


I feel pretty bad about this part. During alpha and beta phases I was one of the most active posters regarding people with PC issues and trying to upgrade. As the phases wore on and not many changes were coming in I'm glad I changed up my stance. Instead of suggesting people spend $300+ on a new GPU I started telling them to hold on to that $300 and get a PS3 when it was clear how well this game would be doing.

I haven't played much at all of the release, but I will say that I do still have hope for this game. Hopefully SE will make it free to play at least until PS3 release or they have the 'miracle patch' that this game really needs. If not then most of my more faithful friends will have moved on by then and it will probably not even be considered. Really wish they'd waited until this game was ready.
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#33 Oct 07 2010 at 2:33 PM Rating: Decent
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Its 13 bucks a month...that's about 30 minutes a month I have to work to pay off my subscription, which is still currently free. No matter how much I am ****** at the state of this glorified beta...I'm still going to stick around, and see what happens. As Richard Gere once proclaimed "I HAVE NO WHERE ELSE TO GO!"

Stupid SE gave me FF11 which I loved, so I feel I owe it to them to see if they can fix this poor thing.

If they don't...well, I'll bail...GW2 should be coming out sometime. :)

But still $13.00 a month. I think I can handle that for the time being.
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