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#1 Oct 07 2010 at 4:50 PM Rating: Default
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I feel betrayed.

What this game is lacking is so clearly obvious. There's 100s of posts that hit it right on the nose. How can all these gamers know after just a week of playing what this game is lacking when SE appears to be completly in the dark with their pants down. The reviews are horrible and they should be. All the things that need to be implemented are basic fundamentals to a mmos success. For a simple example, no ah. Some may say "xi launched with no ah." exactly why I feel betrayed. They tried to get around it again? Maybe when they launch their 3rd mmo they will learn?

Enough about the ah though. That is not my topic. What is my topic is the feeling of betrayal when a company I admire makes the same mistakes over again. I expected much much much more. At this point I feel that some of you poster are more qualified to design this game than the SE devs. After 8 years of 11 and the strcture of a well defined company with a long history of games, couldn't they figure out what we want by now? That is their job.

Simply put, this game could be great but for the list of elementary flaws that a company with the history and man power of SE should not be making. I am betrayed by their failure.

#2 Oct 07 2010 at 5:00 PM Rating: Good
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I'm sorry.
#3 Oct 07 2010 at 5:14 PM Rating: Decent
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ffs why cant you just complain with the other 10 thousand threads claiming the same facts. it really is getting boring to hear the same things over and over again.
#4 Oct 07 2010 at 5:14 PM Rating: Good
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I get the goal of no AH, I really do. The amount of competition amongst crafters in FFXI was so fierce because of the AH system guaranting the lowest item goes first. It was nearly impossible to craft for significant profit compared to what one could do farming or bcnms. That being said, the ward system in its current state is beyond horrible and if it doesn't get changed soon SE will lose quite a few potential customers. I have decent hopes for the next update.

As for other issues, I agree 100%. Some of this stuff should never have been around for beta, much less release. I think the blame goes all across the board at SE. The big wigs in charge obviously rushed for a release before the game should have been to get the game out in SE's fiscal year. The goals were short term and really could bite the company. But some of the problems start at design stage. Some of the UI decisions don't appear to come from being rushed, but really poor ideas that should have never made it past the paper stage into development.

I am not one of those think the game is completely beyond fixing. Most of the problems can be fixed with patches. Others, such as the questionable leveling system, may never be a great concept but can still be improved upon greatly. I'll admit I don't know how long a MMO has to get it right, but I'd be surprised if many people who are passing the game when its shiny and new will suddenly want to jump on board 6 months or a year later when things start getting resolved.
#5 Oct 07 2010 at 5:15 PM Rating: Excellent
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debodeebs wrote:
ffs why cant you just complain with the other 10 thousand threads claiming the same facts. it really is getting boring to hear the same things over and over again.

Because everyones opinions are unique little snowflakes :)
#6 Oct 07 2010 at 5:21 PM Rating: Good
Congratulations!! You're the ten THOUSANDTH person to start a thread on the shortcomings of FFXIV! Johnny, tell him what he's won!!


A trip to the bottom of the ever growing list of people who go online to complain about a game! But that's not all!! You also get an all expense paid trip to I-Don't-Care-Land, where you can unwind with all the other people who found it necessary to start a completely pointless thread!

Thank you for playing "Waste Space on a Forum"

Good night everyone!

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#7 Oct 07 2010 at 5:23 PM Rating: Default
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debodeebs wrote:
ffs why cant you just complain with the other 10 thousand threads claiming the same facts. it really is getting boring to hear the same things over and over again.


Then stop reading those threads. Seriously, what is worse, him deciding to state his opinion or you wasting your time not only reading it, but telling him you are wasting your time? Or maybe you are just bored like me and have nothing better to do? In that case shouldn't you be thanking him for posting a thread that gave you something to reply to?

By the way, thank you for posting something non-sensical enough for me to occupy my time with creating a response.
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#8 Oct 07 2010 at 5:57 PM Rating: Decent
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Raeolthas wrote:
debodeebs wrote:
ffs why cant you just complain with the other 10 thousand threads claiming the same facts. it really is getting boring to hear the same things over and over again.


Then stop reading those threads. Seriously, what is worse, him deciding to state his opinion or you wasting your time not only reading it, but telling him you are wasting your time? Or maybe you are just bored like me and have nothing better to do? In that case shouldn't you be thanking him for posting a thread that gave you something to reply to?

By the way, thank you for posting something non-sensical enough for me to occupy my time with creating a response.


i think you need a couple of hours sleep dude :/
#9 Oct 07 2010 at 6:00 PM Rating: Good
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whiteninja764 wrote:
I feel betrayed.

What this game is lacking is so clearly obvious. There's 100s of posts that hit it right on the nose. How can all these gamers know after just a week of playing what this game is lacking when SE appears to be completly in the dark with their pants down. The reviews are horrible and they should be. All the things that need to be implemented are basic fundamentals to a mmos success. For a simple example, no ah. Some may say "xi launched with no ah." exactly why I feel betrayed. They tried to get around it again? Maybe when they launch their 3rd mmo they will learn?

Enough about the ah though. That is not my topic. What is my topic is the feeling of betrayal when a company I admire makes the same mistakes over again. I expected much much much more. At this point I feel that some of you poster are more qualified to design this game than the SE devs. After 8 years of 11 and the strcture of a well defined company with a long history of games, couldn't they figure out what we want by now? That is their job.

Simply put, this game could be great but for the list of elementary flaws that a company with the history and man power of SE should not be making. I am betrayed by their failure.



Because SE is that friend you go fishing with that can't swim, yet continually jumps over the side of the boat expecting you will save him. Me? Sorry SE, I'm done playing lifeguard. Get back in the boat yourself this time. Not being able to swim, it's going to be hard, but I GUARANTEE you won't jump out again!
#10 Oct 07 2010 at 6:06 PM Rating: Decent
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mattkujata wrote:
Congratulations!! You're the ten THOUSANDTH person to start a thread on the shortcomings of FFXIV! Johnny, tell him what he's won!!


A trip to the bottom of the ever growing list of people who go online to complain about a game! But that's not all!! You also get an all expense paid trip to I-Don't-Care-Land, where you can unwind with all the other people who found it necessary to start a completely pointless thread!

Thank you for playing "Waste Space on a Forum"

Good night everyone!

Promotional consideration brought to you in part by Grief-r-Us, and the the Council for People who Obviously Don't Like a Game, but Go Online and Waste More Time Crying About it.


I rarely laugh out loud when I say lol, but you got me to LOL man. amazing!
#11 Oct 07 2010 at 6:09 PM Rating: Decent
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Raeolthas wrote:
Seriously, what is worse, him deciding to state his opinion or you wasting your time not only reading it, but telling him you are wasting your time? Or maybe you are just bored like me and have nothing better to do? In that case shouldn't you be thanking him for posting a thread that gave you something to reply to?

By the way, thank you for posting something non-sensical enough for me to occupy my time with creating a response.


rofl, this is my favorite quote of the day. :P
#12 Oct 07 2010 at 6:13 PM Rating: Decent
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If you guys are getting sick of reading "this game sucks" forums, stop playing games that suck.
#13 Oct 07 2010 at 6:33 PM Rating: Good
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If you guys are getting sick of reading "this game sucks" forums, stop playing games that suck.


I failed to see your logic there. Personally I'm glad this game is weeding out the impatient people like you. Sorry, SE isn't going to hold your **** when you ****. You should check with Blizzard. I hear they do that for you.
#14 Oct 07 2010 at 6:38 PM Rating: Decent
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That sounds great. I'm getting tired of holding my ***** when I ****.
#15 Oct 07 2010 at 6:40 PM Rating: Decent
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Actually, I am too lol. Where ever it aims I just **** now. Bad part is sometimes you'll **** on your balls :O
#16 Oct 07 2010 at 6:46 PM Rating: Decent
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Slapaho wrote:
Actually, I am too lol. Where ever it aims I just **** now. Bad part is sometimes you'll **** on your balls :O


that is why you employ the technique of leaning on the wall. or using extenze.
#17 Oct 07 2010 at 6:50 PM Rating: Excellent
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This thread is actually readable now.
#18 Oct 07 2010 at 6:51 PM Rating: Excellent
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mattkujata wrote:
Congratulations!! You're the ten THOUSANDTH person to start a thread on the shortcomings of FFXIV! Johnny, tell him what he's won!!


A trip to the bottom of the ever growing list of people who go online to complain about a game! But that's not all!! You also get an all expense paid trip to I-Don't-Care-Land, where you can unwind with all the other people who found it necessary to start a completely pointless thread!

Thank you for playing "Waste Space on a Forum"

Good night everyone!

Promotional consideration brought to you in part by Grief-r-Us, and the the Council for People who Obviously Don't Like a Game, but Go Online and Waste More Time Crying About it.

You made me read your post in an awesome gameshow voice.
#19 Oct 07 2010 at 6:56 PM Rating: Good
whiteninja764 wrote:
-----cut this part out----- At this point I feel that some of you poster are more qualified to design this game than the SE devs. -----cut this part out too-----


While I might not be able to code a game, gimme a couple hundred million dollars and I will feed my ideas to those that can. I think I would do ok. Oh, and I am having more fun then not at this one for the time being.

mattkujata wrote:
Congratulations!! You're the ten THOUSANDTH person to start a thread on the shortcomings of FFXIV! Johnny, tell him what he's won!!


A trip to the bottom of the ever growing list of people who go online to complain about a game! But that's not all!! You also get an all expense paid trip to I-Don't-Care-Land, where you can unwind with all the other people who found it necessary to start a completely pointless thread!

Thank you for playing "Waste Space on a Forum"

Good night everyone!

Promotional consideration brought to you in part by Grief-r-Us, and the the Council for People who Obviously Don't Like a Game, but Go Online and Waste More Time Crying About it.


Thank you for the laughs


Slapaho wrote:
Actually, I am too lol. Where ever it aims I just **** now. Bad part is sometimes you'll **** on your balls :O


Eewwwwww, just Eeeewwwwwwww
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#20 Oct 07 2010 at 7:02 PM Rating: Good
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Slapaho wrote:
Actually, I am too lol. Where ever it aims I just **** now. Bad part is sometimes you'll **** on your balls :O


if you manage to **** on your balls u seriously have a small *****
#21 Oct 07 2010 at 7:03 PM Rating: Good
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debodeebs wrote:
Slapaho wrote:
Actually, I am too lol. Where ever it aims I just **** now. Bad part is sometimes you'll **** on your balls :O


if you manage to **** on your balls u seriously have a small *****


Win!
#22 Oct 07 2010 at 8:20 PM Rating: Decent
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mattkujata wrote:
Congratulations!! You're the ten THOUSANDTH person to start a thread on the shortcomings of FFXIV! Johnny, tell him what he's won!!


A trip to the bottom of the ever growing list of people who go online to complain about a game! But that's not all!! You also get an all expense paid trip to I-Don't-Care-Land, where you can unwind with all the other people who found it necessary to start a completely pointless thread!

Thank you for playing "Waste Space on a Forum"

Good night everyone!

Promotional consideration brought to you in part by Grief-r-Us, and the the Council for People who Obviously Don't Like a Game, but Go Online and Waste More Time Crying About it.


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