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#1 Oct 08 2010 at 12:02 AM Rating: Decent
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well, its been fun guys but im gonna have to say bye to you all for a while.cataclysm cant come soon enough but at least i have fallout:new vegas and fable 3 coming out soon.I'm sure they will be worth $60.00 of my hard earned money. GL to you all with this ****,maybe ill come back later when SE catches up to the genre. /fail
#2 Oct 08 2010 at 12:29 AM Rating: Default
glad you are leaving we dont need fair-wheather gamers like you clogging up the servers with your bad attitude.
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#3 Oct 08 2010 at 12:43 AM Rating: Decent
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Ap0stle wrote:
glad you are leaving we dont need fair-wheather gamers like you clogging up the servers with your bad attitude.


Kudos to you for not thinking before you type.

The game you're playing wouldn't be here without his nor my dollars.

He tried this awful game as was unsatisfied with it, same as a lot of us. Who are you to begrudge him for walking away from a flawed, broken investment?

I don't know how much he paid to play the game, but I paid well over that initial 92$ investment in the Collector's Edition(shipping and tax included).

I paid approx. 1400$ for a new system, plus the cost of the game.

That's almost 1500$ for a game that is more than flawed. It's broken. Star wars Galaxies, after the CU, was better than this.

Yes, I can use my PC for things other than FFXIV, but considering I paid that much money IRL for a game so flawed...I'm angry.

And that anger isn't going to go away because some snide teenager who doesn't understand the value of a dollar enjoys "confirmation" windows and ui lag.
#4 Oct 08 2010 at 12:47 AM Rating: Decent
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ButterflyM wrote:
Ap0stle wrote:
glad you are leaving we dont need fair-wheather gamers like you clogging up the servers with your bad attitude.


Kudos to you for not thinking before you type.

The game you're playing wouldn't be here without his nor my dollars.

He tried this awful game as was unsatisfied with it, same as a lot of us. Who are you to begrudge him for walking away from a flawed, broken investment?

I don't know how much he paid to play the game, but I paid well over that initial 92$ investment in the Collector's Edition(shipping and tax included).

I paid approx. 1400$ for a new system, plus the cost of the game.

That's almost 1500$ for a game that is more than flawed. It's broken. Star wars Galaxies, after the CU, was better than this.

Yes, I can use my PC for things other than FFXIV, but considering I paid that much money IRL for a game so flawed...I'm angry.

And that anger isn't going to go away because some snide teenager who doesn't understand the value of a dollar enjoys "confirmation" windows and ui lag.


You were hanging out around here during beta right? And maybe played beta? You still paid for a new PC and bought a crappy game? Sorry, but that's your fault. Be mad at yourself...
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TwistedOwl wrote:
ButterflyM wrote:
Ap0stle wrote:
glad you are leaving we dont need fair-wheather gamers like you clogging up the servers with your bad attitude.


Kudos to you for not thinking before you type.

The game you're playing wouldn't be here without his nor my dollars.

He tried this awful game as was unsatisfied with it, same as a lot of us. Who are you to begrudge him for walking away from a flawed, broken investment?

I don't know how much he paid to play the game, but I paid well over that initial 92$ investment in the Collector's Edition(shipping and tax included).

I paid approx. 1400$ for a new system, plus the cost of the game.

That's almost 1500$ for a game that is more than flawed. It's broken. Star wars Galaxies, after the CU, was better than this.

Yes, I can use my PC for things other than FFXIV, but considering I paid that much money IRL for a game so flawed...I'm angry.

And that anger isn't going to go away because some snide teenager who doesn't understand the value of a dollar enjoys "confirmation" windows and ui lag.


You were hanging out around here during beta right? And maybe played beta? You still paid for a new PC and bought a crappy game? Sorry, but that's your fault. Be mad at yourself...


I am mad at myself. But it doesn't change the fact that SE has a crappy product out, and prospective buyers need to be warned that this garbage is not worth the 50$ investment, nor the 13$ monthly fee.
#6 Oct 08 2010 at 12:56 AM Rating: Good
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nekcutta wrote:
well, its been fun guys but im gonna have to say bye to you all for a while.cataclysm cant come soon enough but at least i have fallout:new vegas and fable 3 coming out soon.I'm sure they will be worth $60.00 of my hard earned money. GL to you all with this ****,maybe ill come back later when SE catches up to the genre. /fail


Wait till after maintenance! Maybe they will fix everything...on second thought you are better off going...this is SE were talking about.
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#7 Oct 08 2010 at 1:15 AM Rating: Decent
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ButterflyM wrote:
Ap0stle wrote:
glad you are leaving we dont need fair-wheather gamers like you clogging up the servers with your bad attitude.


Kudos to you for not thinking before you type.

The game you're playing wouldn't be here without his nor my dollars.

He tried this awful game as was unsatisfied with it, same as a lot of us. Who are you to begrudge him for walking away from a flawed, broken investment?

I don't know how much he paid to play the game, but I paid well over that initial 92$ investment in the Collector's Edition(shipping and tax included).

I paid approx. 1400$ for a new system, plus the cost of the game.

That's almost 1500$ for a game that is more than flawed. It's broken. Star wars Galaxies, after the CU, was better than this.

Yes, I can use my PC for things other than FFXIV, but considering I paid that much money IRL for a game so flawed...I'm angry.

And that anger isn't going to go away because some snide teenager who doesn't understand the value of a dollar enjoys "confirmation" windows and ui lag.


A game is not an investment.
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#8 Oct 08 2010 at 1:29 AM Rating: Excellent
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Kudos to you for not thinking before you type.

The game you're playing wouldn't be here without his nor my dollars.

He tried this awful game as was unsatisfied with it, same as a lot of us. Who are you to begrudge him for walking away from a flawed, broken investment?

I don't know how much he paid to play the game, but I paid well over that initial 92$ investment in the Collector's Edition(shipping and tax included).

I paid approx. 1400$ for a new system, plus the cost of the game.

That's almost 1500$ for a game that is more than flawed. It's broken. Star wars Galaxies, after the CU, was better than this.

Yes, I can use my PC for things other than FFXIV, but considering I paid that much money IRL for a game so flawed...I'm angry.

And that anger isn't going to go away because some snide teenager who doesn't understand the value of a dollar enjoys "confirmation" windows and ui lag.


I did the same although I didnt buy a brand new PC, I brought upgrades. 300 for graphics card and 50 for PSU. I know that this was not just for FFXIV, the graphics alone are worth the money spent.

I agree with the way the game is built but it is an MMO and patience really is needed. If you quit then quit don't come back. BUT on the other hand because you have spent the money and got a copy, you have a nice choice to come back in 6 months time. Which you might just do. :)
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#9 Oct 08 2010 at 1:37 AM Rating: Decent
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ButterflyM wrote:
TwistedOwl wrote:
ButterflyM wrote:
Ap0stle wrote:
glad you are leaving we dont need fair-wheather gamers like you clogging up the servers with your bad attitude.


Kudos to you for not thinking before you type.

The game you're playing wouldn't be here without his nor my dollars.

He tried this awful game as was unsatisfied with it, same as a lot of us. Who are you to begrudge him for walking away from a flawed, broken investment?

I don't know how much he paid to play the game, but I paid well over that initial 92$ investment in the Collector's Edition(shipping and tax included).

I paid approx. 1400$ for a new system, plus the cost of the game.

That's almost 1500$ for a game that is more than flawed. It's broken. Star wars Galaxies, after the CU, was better than this.

Yes, I can use my PC for things other than FFXIV, but considering I paid that much money IRL for a game so flawed...I'm angry.

And that anger isn't going to go away because some snide teenager who doesn't understand the value of a dollar enjoys "confirmation" windows and ui lag.


You were hanging out around here during beta right? And maybe played beta? You still paid for a new PC and bought a crappy game? Sorry, but that's your fault. Be mad at yourself...


I am mad at myself. But it doesn't change the fact that SE has a crappy product out, and prospective buyers need to be warned that this garbage is not worth the 50$ investment, nor the 13$ monthly fee.


That's your take. I would pay the 50 again tbh. Yeah it has problems. *Queue the it's new speech you have memorized by now*
Still I would say a large chunk of the game hasn't even been discovered by anyone. I'm only speculating this of course but SE isn't gonna say crap about much of it until they think you might need more guidance. Hidden content is how they roll.

I know more people who like it than hate it. The haters are just louder because apparently saying anything good gets people rated down and they care for some reason. Not saying you are dumb with this next part. It isn't aimed at you... but morons are going to hate this game automatically. These are the people you see doing 4k dps in WoW right now. They suck at games where content is just given to players. I have a running tally of these people that i started a year after wow released. 7/10 players that I have run across are dumber than dirt or just suck there. This game makes you work for things. Natural hate. Bad computers will follow suit.

SE has kept the RPG game feel which the majority of gamers do not like. It isn't targeted at the gamer like WoW was. It is targeted at the RPGer. They have taken a few steps out of that box... but only a few.

So before you go scaring away people that might enjoy this thinking you are giving some great omen of a warning... Why don't you take your rig and roll a game that is for you.




Edited, Oct 8th 2010 3:37am by zoltanrs
#10 Oct 08 2010 at 3:29 AM Rating: Default
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Its right, FFXIV isnt the best we could expect, but never forget, were talking about SE, WERE TALKING ABOUT FINAL FANTASY

Me for my side knows that SE is doing everything to changes things as they are now...I have fate in SE bc their not gonna ruin the name Final Fantasy.
#11 Oct 08 2010 at 3:37 AM Rating: Decent
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Oh wow 50 dollars! What's that, like the price of a few pizzas?
Not everyone in the world is financially challenged.
Just leave already. You've stated your pointless opinion countless times now. If you're simply hanging around waiting for complete strangers to agree with you... Get a life.
#12 Oct 08 2010 at 3:55 AM Rating: Default
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mmolma wrote:
Its right, FFXIV isnt the best we could expect, but never forget, were talking about SE, WERE TALKING ABOUT FINAL FANTASY

Me for my side knows that SE is doing everything to changes things as they are now...I have fate in SE bc their not gonna ruin the name Final Fantasy.



Right cause FF12 and ff13 were superior games

This game is just like them

Lots of Flash, little substance
#13 Oct 08 2010 at 4:02 AM Rating: Decent
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insanekangaroo wrote:
A game is not an investment.


Gaming is a hobby, and all hobbies require investments.

Nice try.

Edited, Oct 8th 2010 6:03am by StrijderVechter
#14 Oct 08 2010 at 4:15 AM Rating: Decent
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glad you are leaving we dont need fair-wheather gamers like you clogging up the servers with your bad attitude.


I'm not sure how you think this post or mindframe helps your game, but it doesn't.
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#15 Oct 08 2010 at 4:21 AM Rating: Good
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I bought a new pc for this, but at least you were able to play it. I'm in China, I don't think I'll be able to play without jumping through a few hundred hoops.. thanks SE. Not that I'd be complaining about it if i still lived in Canada. Maybe they could just have a conversation with me to decide if I'm a gilseller or not... I Hope they do work out some of the issues you speak of.. I have high hopes for t his game, but I don't expect them to match what ffxi was to me
#16 Oct 08 2010 at 4:25 AM Rating: Decent
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Perrinshammer wrote:
[quote=mmolma]Its right, FFXIV isnt the best we could expect, but never forget, were talking about SE, WERE TALKING ABOUT FINAL FANTASY

Me for my side knows that SE is doing everything to changes things as they are now...I have fate in SE bc their not gonna ruin the name Final Fantasy.

Right cause FF12 and ff13 were superior games

This game is just like them

Lots of Flash, little substance


FFXII is a terrific game. FFXIII is garbage.
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#17 Oct 08 2010 at 4:51 AM Rating: Decent
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It's evident that a lot of people have not played the start of an MMO before. This launch has been pretty smooth compared to past launches I've been in. Sure there are some initial flaws/bugs but it beats a lot of other MMORPG launches (including World of Warcraft).

Also, you're an idiot if you paid extra money for a game that you didn't know you would enjoy or not.
#18 Oct 08 2010 at 6:44 AM Rating: Excellent
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Hmm, I knew in the beta that I wanted nothing to do with hundreds of hours of being among the first to learn how to play this game "properly". What is sad to me is XI didn't become a fun game till pretty much after 50. Rank 5 and airships made the time to get around to play less tedious, but only a little.

When and if I join this version, it will be a little later, perhaps on the 1 year anniversary. Best of luck to all who have the time to help make the game a better place to be later.

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#19 Oct 08 2010 at 6:56 AM Rating: Decent
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Oh wow 50 dollars! What's that, like the price of a few pizzas?


that's irrelevant, money is money lol

if someone sold you dog **** would you buy it cos its only a few quid? the same price as a pint?




#20 Oct 08 2010 at 7:42 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm inclined to stick my CE on a shelf along with my subscription until the second round of beta testing is done, aka live pc release. I actually enjoyed the beta with minimal server lag, 50% vender prices, enough mobs to go around. Playing on the server side lag, with **** poor UI, no hope of 3rd party addons... I'm just going to stop there. When this hits PS3 platform much of the bugs will be worked out and some content will be there. I can only hope SE will remove its head from its *** and allow addons or create useful in game functions.

After playing beta and then a week of release, I'm completely bored. Its like a Furblog grind in WoW with no end. Yes all mmorpg are ruff at release, but why in this day in age is FFxiv so bad at release? I played FFxi, WoW, LOTRO enough to have a good idea how a mmo works. Like mentioned before Fallout: New Vegas looks great and it gives me time to revisit some old favorites (**** yeah Zsnes emulator).

My advice is vote with your $ and cancel you subscription until the game is playable. If you want to spend your $ to help post beta test the game thats your call. It did get me to upgrade my pc, but I use that for many things, not just games.
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#21 Oct 08 2010 at 12:04 PM Rating: Decent
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ButterflyM wrote:
Ap0stle wrote:
glad you are leaving we dont need fair-wheather gamers like you clogging up the servers with your bad attitude.


Kudos to you for not thinking before you type.

The game you're playing wouldn't be here without his nor my dollars.

He tried this awful game as was unsatisfied with it, same as a lot of us. Who are you to begrudge him for walking away from a flawed, broken investment?

I don't know how much he paid to play the game, but I paid well over that initial 92$ investment in the Collector's Edition(shipping and tax included).

I paid approx. 1400$ for a new system, plus the cost of the game.

That's almost 1500$ for a game that is more than flawed. It's broken. Star wars Galaxies, after the CU, was better than this.

Yes, I can use my PC for things other than FFXIV, but considering I paid that much money IRL for a game so flawed...I'm angry.

And that anger isn't going to go away because some snide teenager who doesn't understand the value of a dollar enjoys "confirmation" windows and ui lag.

Are you still here? I thought you made a grand exit yesterday already. Got your voice heard and everything. I can see why you're mad but man, you people are like babies throwing tantrums.
#22 Oct 08 2010 at 12:08 PM Rating: Decent
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nekcutta wrote:
fable 3


nekcutta wrote:
when SE catches up to the genre.


That is the funniest thing I have read on these boards in weeks. Bravo sir, bravo XD

Fallout New Vegas I agree on though. Buggy and broken as it will no doubt be.
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#23 Oct 08 2010 at 12:10 PM Rating: Good
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Perrinshammer wrote:
mmolma wrote:
Its right, FFXIV isnt the best we could expect, but never forget, were talking about SE, WERE TALKING ABOUT FINAL FANTASY

Me for my side knows that SE is doing everything to changes things as they are now...I have fate in SE bc their not gonna ruin the name Final Fantasy.



Right cause FF12 and ff13 were superior games



You are a moron.
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#24 Oct 08 2010 at 12:26 PM Rating: Decent
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nekcutta wrote:
well, its been fun guys but im gonna have to say bye to you all for a while.cataclysm cant come soon enough but at least i have fallout:new vegas and fable 3 coming out soon.I'm sure they will be worth $60.00 of my hard earned money. GL to you all with this ****,maybe ill come back later when SE catches up to the genre. /fail


Your post count amounts to 4, why would anyone here give a **** you quit?
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#25 Oct 08 2010 at 12:28 PM Rating: Decent
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OneFromSilverLight wrote:
Perrinshammer wrote:
mmolma wrote:
Its right, FFXIV isnt the best we could expect, but never forget, were talking about SE, WERE TALKING ABOUT FINAL FANTASY

Me for my side knows that SE is doing everything to changes things as they are now...I have fate in SE bc their not gonna ruin the name Final Fantasy.



Right cause FF12 and ff13 were superior games



You are a moron.


I second this.
XII had an awesome battle system and I like XIII just fine. I actually stopped playing after getting out of the tunnel ... I liked the game being linear. I play final fantasy games for their story, not to roam a dungeon hoping I don't get into a random battle because of how annoying they are. <_<
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#26 Oct 08 2010 at 12:38 PM Rating: Excellent
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insanekangaroo wrote:
ButterflyM wrote:
Ap0stle wrote:
glad you are leaving we dont need fair-wheather gamers like you clogging up the servers with your bad attitude.


Kudos to you for not thinking before you type.

The game you're playing wouldn't be here without his nor my dollars.

He tried this awful game as was unsatisfied with it, same as a lot of us. Who are you to begrudge him for walking away from a flawed, broken investment?

I don't know how much he paid to play the game, but I paid well over that initial 92$ investment in the Collector's Edition(shipping and tax included).

I paid approx. 1400$ for a new system, plus the cost of the game.

That's almost 1500$ for a game that is more than flawed. It's broken. Star wars Galaxies, after the CU, was better than this.

Yes, I can use my PC for things other than FFXIV, but considering I paid that much money IRL for a game so flawed...I'm angry.

And that anger isn't going to go away because some snide teenager who doesn't understand the value of a dollar enjoys "confirmation" windows and ui lag.


A game is not an investment.


Aside from money spent on my own pc and the CE, I would say the time spent in alpha/beta were an investment. Time spent in hopes of another game I could spend 3+ years in, just like FFXI.
Unfortunately, SE squandered that time and ignored a majority of the feedback given them before the release.
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#27 Oct 08 2010 at 12:45 PM Rating: Decent
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Are you still here? I thought you made a grand exit yesterday already. Got your voice heard and everything. I can see why you're mad but man, you people are like babies throwing tantrums.


Not really that surprising I guess. I made a comment in his thread, suggesting the quitters leave the forums as well so they arent constantly crying and trolling. As expected got Karma-nuked by all the QQ's.

Nuke away.


Edited, Oct 8th 2010 2:55pm by Sigmakan
#28 Oct 08 2010 at 12:48 PM Rating: Decent
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So uh why are all the people that hate this game and are quitting sticking around here droning on again and again about the game?

I say once you post your "I quit" screaming tantrum post on here you are muted from this particular forum. Because really what else do you have left to add? Nothing.
#30 Oct 08 2010 at 12:55 PM Rating: Good
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TwistedOwl wrote:

You were hanging out around here during beta right? And maybe played beta? You still paid for a new PC and bought a crappy game? Sorry, but that's your fault. Be mad at yourself...


lol, I like how "IT'S BETA, IT WILL GET FIXED AT RELEASE!" has turned into "You played beta, you should have known."

did I mention lol?
#31 Oct 08 2010 at 12:57 PM Rating: Decent
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nekcutta wrote:
well, its been fun guys but im gonna have to say bye to you all for a while.cataclysm cant come soon enough but at least i have fallout:new vegas and fable 3 coming out soon.I'm sure they will be worth $60.00 of my hard earned money. GL to you all with this ****,maybe ill come back later when SE catches up to the genre. /fail



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I'm sorry to hear that you did not like the game. Maybe you will feel like coming back in a few months when the brand new game smell wears off.

I think once the kinks get worked out it will be an amazing Final Fantasy game.
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#33 Oct 08 2010 at 1:23 PM Rating: Decent
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OneFromSilverLight wrote:
Perrinshammer wrote:
mmolma wrote:
Its right, FFXIV isnt the best we could expect, but never forget, were talking about SE, WERE TALKING ABOUT FINAL FANTASY

Me for my side knows that SE is doing everything to changes things as they are now...I have fate in SE bc their not gonna ruin the name Final Fantasy.



Right cause FF12 and ff13 were superior games



You are a moron.


I'm a moron? Really?

Lets see FF12 had
-a gambit system that allowed you to play the game with one thumb
-a story line that resembles Star Wars
-Characters that I really couldn't care less about when i got to the end

about the only good thing about 12 was the music, scenery, and the hunts

Lets see FF13 had
-a battle system that pretty much held my hand until Chapter 11
-bosses that weren't even passing difficult
-Characters that were so melodramic that i almost wished i can give them some meds.

again 13 had good music and scenery

and FF14 is shaping to be the same way, Good music, nice scenery if somewhat repetative and a nice job system

the game has the skeleton and the skin, but like a starving person has no meat.
#34 Oct 08 2010 at 1:36 PM Rating: Decent
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Perrinshammer wrote:

Lets see FF12 had
-a gambit system that allowed you to play the game with one thumb


To allow people to rub one out over the Michael Jackson look-a-like protagonist.

Perrinshammer wrote:

-a story line that resembles Star Wars


Not really a bad thing, to be honest.

Perrinshammer wrote:

-Characters that I really couldn't care less about when i got to the end


Kudos for getting that far. I thought they were intolerable pretty much from the get-go.

Perrinshammer wrote:

about the only good thing about 12 was the music, scenery, and the hunts

Lets see FF13 had
-a battle system that pretty much held my hand until Chapter 11


I didn't get that far. It was bland, boring, the characters sucked and annoyed me and they even managed to **** up the summons.

Perrinshammer wrote:

-bosses that weren't even passing difficult


I can't agree with that. It was Odin that done it for me. Stupid battle that one.

Perrinshammer wrote:

-Characters that were so melodramic that i almost wished i can give them some meds.


Particularly [Absolutely No Fu**ing] Hope and the Australian-Kiwi-South African-English girl.

Perrinshammer wrote:

again 13 had good music and scenery

and FF14 is shaping to be the same way, Good music, nice scenery if somewhat repetative and a nice job system

the game has the skeleton and the skin, but like a starving person has no meat.


Agreed, generally. But this post is taking me much longer than I initially anticipated so I can't be bothered to elaborate.

P.S. Just remember, they'll never agree with you if you have less posts than they do.

Edited, Oct 8th 2010 7:37pm by Unohana
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Perrinshammer wrote:
OneFromSilverLight wrote:
Perrinshammer wrote:
mmolma wrote:
Its right, FFXIV isnt the best we could expect, but never forget, were talking about SE, WERE TALKING ABOUT FINAL FANTASY

Me for my side knows that SE is doing everything to changes things as they are now...I have fate in SE bc their not gonna ruin the name Final Fantasy.



Right cause FF12 and ff13 were superior games



You are a moron.


I'm a moron? Really?



Yup.
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#36 Oct 08 2010 at 3:13 PM Rating: Decent
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Perrinshammer wrote:
OneFromSilverLight wrote:
Perrinshammer wrote:
mmolma wrote:
Its right, FFXIV isnt the best we could expect, but never forget, were talking about SE, WERE TALKING ABOUT FINAL FANTASY

Me for my side knows that SE is doing everything to changes things as they are now...I have fate in SE bc their not gonna ruin the name Final Fantasy.



Right cause FF12 and ff13 were superior games



You are a moron.


I'm a moron? Really?



Yup.


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#37 Oct 08 2010 at 3:23 PM Rating: Excellent
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Ap0stle wrote:
glad you are leaving we dont need fair-wheather gamers like you clogging up the servers with your bad attitude.


Fair-weathered gamers? What does that mean? This isn't a sports team that we continue to cheer for the years they are bad. There is no honor in paying and playing a game you dislike.

That being said, I am both disapointed by the game and enjoying it. Until the former takes over the latter, I'll hang around. But, this is not what I expected for the follow up to FFXI...
#38 Oct 08 2010 at 6:33 PM Rating: Decent
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Yes its no ffxi, but ffxi has gotten pretty sad. You played it recently? the new abyessa zones are fun for a while, but after about a month it just becomes an endless endgame grind for a few items and a constant stress inducing fight against time. Even getting people to help you fight nototious monsters is even more challenging now, seeing as everyone's "traverser stones" (the stones that give u time in the new areas) are always running out, so they dont want to spend real life time as well as stored time now on helping someone, if it could potentially keep them from joining an abyessa party a couple days later(you have to wait real life time for them to charge).

These abyessa parties consist of one big alliance, doing away with the 6 person endgame party system almost completely (which many of us liked...). These 18 man parties mean you will be lotting against 17 people for key items to pop notorious monsters that they probably dont even know waht its for (they just lot lot lot), and allows for bad players to go afk frequently and do very little (mages in particular). The concept of a mage hasting a whole party of melee has gone out the window, most mages now just stand around and whine about cross party healing, few haste anymore or even do close to their full potential. This makes the party rest on the shoulders of a few melee and mages, usually doing most of the damage and correct kill types, while half the party freeloads. Doing this is also very taxing on melee who try to keep fighting, because these parties take time to build up the expirience, and with few breaks because of the time constraint and constant party fighting, you can find yourself staring at the screen for hours without a decent break.

These new zones also give disgustingly high amounts of expirience, making the game lame after you've capped the job u like to play, which doesnt take long. People who spent years leveling jobs (like me) die a little inside b/c of this. You also get crour, a sort of demensional currency, which u can use to buy items. It adds up pretty fast(but not too fast), and the items can be sold to npcs relatively easily for large amounts of cash. Since SE got rid of the gil sellers, the amount of gil in the game went down. But players doing this method, and SE bringing out new items all the time in expansions that far outballance old items for the most part, has pretty much killed the ffxi economy. Items will drop in price from a mill to 200k in one day inexplicably, then be unable to be found up for aution. Price scares are common now, making people lose millions all the time. Also many crafts that people spent years on getting to 100+ are becoming less useful, because less people are playing and like i said the economy is unpredictable.

Dont like abyessa but want to play ffxi? gl with that... Its basically all there is to do now. By not doing it, you will gimp yourself. I however have never been that good at staying with a group of people for years at a time, so yea there are still things to do like the old zones and stuff, but with the new 85 cap, this stuff is so easy; it usually has to be low manned too b/c less people want to do it, they want to abyessa.

Many things in the game have changed. People are unwilling to change their playstyle though. This is the sad part, is that people will play their jobs as they were supposed to be played a year ago. The new level cap changed the game, making mp pretty much endless for the mages and summoner has no worry about keeping their avatar's up. Yet, the redmages refuse to use a sword to attack the mob, summoners refuse to melee with staff, paladins refuse to /dnc or be a healer ever even tho about half the time they arent needed as full time tanks in abyessa(and cant! many ppl cant hold hate at all on pld).. My point is that these people would rather stand around and do barely anything, watching tv or something while other people do most of the work. And people cant point this out, because the alliances are so big. The jobs have all changed dramatically, but people refuse to see it, and it makes the game unballanced in this way.

The puppetmaster for one has become like one of the best jobs in the game, because the pet doesnt die anymore really. This is what got me back to playing ffxi, because mine was pimped out b4 this happened with every attachment and i wanted to play. It was awesome, i was doing over 16% of the damage in abyessa parties and really showing the blackmages and rangers a thing or 2 and i could tank. I worked on capping all its skills, something that is hard to do and i made it quite good. After that tho, i got pretty bored. There was nothing left to do but repititious quests for items or switch to yet another job again. The other day I noticed a new peice of gear pop on the auction house, a new pup cape. I really wanted it, but i didnt have quite the gil to get it. I ended up selling stuff i knew would sell, stuff i could replace by questing hardcore later (the new cape peice would motivate me to do the belt quest). But low and behold, as soon as i had the 2mil, not 1 hour later, the cape was gone for good, bought by a 31 pup. I offered this player 2.8 million gil for this cape, which he refused. Over the next week he didnt even play pup at all. This shows that pretty much any abyessa leech can get massive gils to spend on whatever they want in the game, not to mention if that person already had massive gil(i watched him tho, he just levels jobs in abyessa opening chests as mid level jobs). I had sold my haste set, and couldnt/didnt want to find people to try to farm the abyessa monster drop now. Every time i log into ffxi, stare at the ah, stressing over new items, this and that, oo oo this is new its better wow.. It really made me mad and i have stopped playing, i sent a mil to a friend of mine and that was it for me. All that work, and nothing to do once it was done, because, yea, abyessa. gg
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