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#1 Oct 08 2010 at 10:28 PM Rating: Good
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http://www.gametrailers.com/video/review-hd-final-fantasy/705892?type=flv

If anything this is an even harsher review than Gamespot's (even though it ends in a slightly higher score)
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#2 Oct 08 2010 at 10:35 PM Rating: Decent
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More truth. SE has their work cut out for them.
#3 Oct 08 2010 at 10:39 PM Rating: Good
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They told the truth : (
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#4 Oct 08 2010 at 10:39 PM Rating: Good
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LOVED that review. Every single time this game gets bashed mainstream it gives me more hope that SE will go into panic mode and make some worthwhile fixes ... that is, IF they're listening.
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#5 Oct 08 2010 at 10:40 PM Rating: Decent
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Honestly these are fair reviews because they have to rate the product at hand and not what it'll be like in 6 months. The game has shining quality but not enough to warrant a buy for people who are fans.
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#6 Oct 08 2010 at 10:46 PM Rating: Decent
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"Too many good MMO's on the market for you to time your time and money on this broken, incomplete mess".

As much as I do not want to believe this....it's true. It's becoming much easier to block out the trolls still backing this game when you see reviews like this.

And to those scrubs who think they will be level 50 everything king of their servers when everyone "comes back".....there will be nothing to come back to. So many players have quit already because after just two weeks, they realized that this piece of JUNK should not have been released as a piece of junk. The only positive thing this game has going for it is a few videos with bad voice overs.
#7 Oct 08 2010 at 10:57 PM Rating: Good
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So sad I really wanted this to be an MMO I enjoy for a few years. Oh well back to PS3 gaming.
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#8 Oct 08 2010 at 10:57 PM Rating: Decent
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Good sweet lord. Did they hold nothing back lol.

As bad as i feel for those that put so much work into this 'broken mess', I also know this is exactly the smack SE's leadership need if they're ever going to let go of their "we can do no wrong" ego.

If they don't learn from this, SE is done-for.

But somehow my gut says they're more likely to blame the "foreigners" for ruining their product. And hold a grudge against the west so strong that they stop releasing games outside asia at launch from now on. Seems more like them than learning their lesson and becoming a stronger company by adjusting to demand.

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#9 Oct 08 2010 at 11:01 PM Rating: Good
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If they don't learn from this, SE is done-for.


Probably not, they still have many successful and highly enjoyable franchises they can draw on. But it might toll the bell for the Final Fantasy series if they don't learn from their mistakes.

Frankly, 14's a pretty respectable number. You'd have a hard time saying the Final Fantasy series as a whole wasn't an explosive success.
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[quote=Khronus66And to those scrubs who think they will be level 50 everything king of their servers when everyone "comes back"......[/quote]

Please define "Scrub" for me. I have normally only seen it used by PvPers with delusions of adequacy.
#11 Oct 08 2010 at 11:06 PM Rating: Default
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Is there no way to read their review?

Bah, if I wanted to watch a video, I'd buy a T.V.
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#12 Oct 08 2010 at 11:07 PM Rating: Decent
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Khronus66 wrote:
As much as I do not want to believe this....it's true. It's becoming much easier to block out the trolls still backing this game when you see reviews like this.


Please explain to me how the people who do enjoy the game and frequent a fan forum devoted to the game are the trolls and the people with less than 10 posts creating the same old thread over and over again just to bash the game are not?
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#13 Oct 08 2010 at 11:09 PM Rating: Good
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Khronus66 wrote:
As much as I do not want to believe this....it's true. It's becoming much easier to block out the trolls still backing this game when you see reviews like this.


Please explain to me how the people who do enjoy the game and frequent a fan forum devoted to the game are the trolls and the people with less than 10 posts creating the same old thread over and over again just to bash the game are not?


I'd really prefer this thread not turn into another who's-the-troll ******* contest if possible
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The truth hurts, but what hurts even worse is the likelihood that SE will continue to work on the insane mentality that they know best and thus not make enough change to fix their game in a rapid fashion. If any positive change is coming, it's likely going to arrive at a snail's pace, something XIV unfortunately seems to be famous for. /:
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#15 Oct 08 2010 at 11:40 PM Rating: Good
Good review. I'm with everyone saying that hopefully these reviews will give SE better perspective on what needs work first/the most.

I do have to say one thing on the topic of having to get your information on crafting and certain game mechanics from an outside source though. Those of us who played FFXI are actually quite used to this, so I think they just figured it'd be fine to keep doing it. Many other games actually list recipes and other things like that, so people that haven't dealt with needing sites like Alla and FFXIclopedia to get through their MMO experience are taking a harder hit from this. I'm not saying that I'm not for adding information in-game (I think all FFXI players would agree that knowing what their food does or what a recipe requires without looking on the internet would be awesome. It's just that we're probably more familiar with the tools that are currently available).
#16 Oct 08 2010 at 11:48 PM Rating: Good
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And SE Devs finally respond... by offering suggestions on character namedays and guardians.
#17 Oct 08 2010 at 11:52 PM Rating: Excellent
Just a heads up, this review should be marked with a spoiler. Upon viewing it I realized the scenes they use give away a great deal of the storyline for Gridania. If I hadn't already gotten that far I'd be ********* Anyway, just a warning for those who have yet to see the review...
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While I am still having fun, and going to still be playing for the long term, I am really curious with what Square Enix will be doing and changing with this level of response. I don't think they are quite used to this level of negativity toward any of their games, especially the numbered Final Fantasy games which they put their biggest polish in. I am very disappointed in their logic and really wished they would of put more time and delayed the game to polish up which are mainly the loose ends of the game, UI, Controls, Latency, features, overall polish. They said they wanted a longer Beta test period, they should of stuck with what they said and not have rushed this game. They really goofed and need to repent, they have time till the PS3 to redeem themselves, FFXI and FFXIV are already niche games and will only gain that level of consumer support. They need to focus on fixing the game for us, they fumbled on the mainstream PC market, and they have one more shot at it with PS3 launch.
#19 Oct 08 2010 at 11:59 PM Rating: Default
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And SE Devs finally respond... by offering suggestions on character namedays and guardians.


Maybe you would be happy if they just explained everything for you? I'm sorry if i took your post wrong, but it seems to me that your upset with the lack of information.

This is an RPG. A Role Playing Game. The point of it, is to bring you to a fantasy world, where you build yourself. You create you in another world. Do you really think it all needs to be explained to you?
Wouldn't that defeat the purpose of an RPG?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Role-playing_game

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#20 Oct 09 2010 at 12:00 AM Rating: Good
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Reviews are just opinions though. I personally like the game, but have my gripes too. Some things that bother me about it may not bother others (I hate there isnt a way to send stuff to other players), and some stuff that other people really hate (no AH) don't bother me as much. Its really just personal preferences.

I agree with the post above me also, but really not adding stuff like what food does in game is ridiculous. Square likes to be WAY secretive on things that seriously shouldn't be secretive. (Why hide what affects you get from food?) Made my head boggle with confusion in xi, and even moreso now in xiv.

At least they are posting some kinds of info on the loadstone, I mean at least they're trying to communicate to their players. Perhaps because of reviews like this. And maybe they will blame the westerners. Not blame them, but blame the fact that they should of waited to release it in America till after it was out in Japan for awhile. Maybe they are esier on SE.
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#21 Oct 09 2010 at 12:11 AM Rating: Excellent
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If I spent all my time reading these reviews and not playing the game myself I would probably hate it as well.

Any game can be enjoyable with the right group of players. The social aspect of MMORPG's should come back, it is what used to keep people playing. Now it just seems a lot of players are self indulged, only caring about their progression and character, only grouping if it's required to advance their character.

I'm not saying the review is wrong, the game does have some flaws. Over time they will be addressed, just like in 11. I will be here happily playing through what content they have provided, leveling all the classes and crafting at my pace.

It's a very relaxing game with a wonderful storyline at this point. I can see where that may not entice some people, along with the tedious aspects of various game features, or lack of features.
#22 Oct 09 2010 at 12:20 AM Rating: Good
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Also, the review isn't 100% accurate. I can easily add people to my friends list no matter where both of us are at or if the person isnt even online. The review states that people can only be added to friends list if they're very close by. And I think the enemies regenerating health issue was fixed last week.

Also the leves now aren't at an "alarming slow rate". I do all 8 regional and local leves every reset and I play like 6 hours a day and feel like I always have leves to do.

Too bad Square didn't add real voice overs. They claimed the game would have full voice overs but it has like 2... That's dissapointing to read through so much story.
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#23 Oct 09 2010 at 12:24 AM Rating: Excellent
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Also, the review isn't 100% accurate. I can easily add people to my friends list no matter where both of us are at or if the person isnt even online. The review states that people can only be added to friends list if they're very close by. And I think the enemies regenerating health issue was fixed last week.

Also the leves now aren't at an "alarming slow rate". I do all 8 regional and local leves every reset and I play like 6 hours a day and feel like I always have leves to do.

Too bad Square didn't add real voice overs. They claimed the game would have full voice overs but it has like 2... That's dissapointing to read through so much story.


I think they have voice overs for all of the main storyline points. I'm pretty sure there will be more than 2.
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It's a bit disappointing knowing that SWTOR is coming out COMPLETELY voice acted, yet FFXIV only has the tiniest bit. I'm hoping future expansions will include it for EVERY cutscene, and that they'll hire better voice actors too.
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Teneleven wrote:
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Also, the review isn't 100% accurate. I can easily add people to my friends list no matter where both of us are at or if the person isnt even online. The review states that people can only be added to friends list if they're very close by. And I think the enemies regenerating health issue was fixed last week.

Also the leves now aren't at an "alarming slow rate". I do all 8 regional and local leves every reset and I play like 6 hours a day and feel like I always have leves to do.

Too bad Square didn't add real voice overs. They claimed the game would have full voice overs but it has like 2... That's dissapointing to read through so much story.


I think they have voice overs for all of the main storyline points. I'm pretty sure there will be more than 2.


I've read so many, and I mean so many, blocks of text in in game cut scenes, some in instances, and that should be voice oevered. Only the CG cut scenes seem to have voice overs. They should of been in the first parts of the starting quests when you're talking to the NPCs in the guilds and stuff, in Ul dah when the girl is crying... etc
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Edited, Oct 9th 2010 2:44am by Furia


The way they act towards their playerbase and critics makes me want to see their whole company crash and burn for some reason...

I havn't liked their games since FFXI... which i eventually grew to despise in the end because of how arrogant the devs were..
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#28 Oct 09 2010 at 12:54 AM Rating: Excellent
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PinkMermaid wrote:
Teneleven wrote:
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Also, the review isn't 100% accurate. I can easily add people to my friends list no matter where both of us are at or if the person isnt even online. The review states that people can only be added to friends list if they're very close by. And I think the enemies regenerating health issue was fixed last week.

Also the leves now aren't at an "alarming slow rate". I do all 8 regional and local leves every reset and I play like 6 hours a day and feel like I always have leves to do.

Too bad Square didn't add real voice overs. They claimed the game would have full voice overs but it has like 2... That's dissapointing to read through so much story.


I think they have voice overs for all of the main storyline points. I'm pretty sure there will be more than 2.


I've read so many, and I mean so many, blocks of text in in game cut scenes, some in instances, and that should be voice oevered. Only the CG cut scenes seem to have voice overs. They should of been in the first parts of the starting quests when you're talking to the NPCs in the guilds and stuff, in Ul dah when the girl is crying... etc

I agree, but i don't think it's that simple. I think if they made every CS voiced, your HD would have a heart attack. This game is already like windows ME .. it uses sooooo many resources. Any more, and your PC will kill you in your sleep for installing FF XIV lol.
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#29 Oct 09 2010 at 12:55 AM Rating: Decent
What I like about FFXIV: A Sadomasochist's review

I like spending 2-3, even 6hrs going through ONE cities market wards looking for an item.

I like that as a mage...I can cast a spell, and it will NEVER trigger...until my friendly target dies...healing me for 0.

I like running from one city to another...for over an hour, just to bump my 4-leve limit.

I like...how when I am in a party...I can open my map...and NOT see my party members or link-shell homies.

I like how nobody except the LS Leader can invite new members to the LS...HAWT!

I like how when I am at 80/80 bag-space...and I get a stackable item...I have to throw away an inventory item so that it will stack...

I like how SE is so responsive to their paying customers.

But most of all...


I LOVE THAT GUILD WARS - II IS COMING OUT SOON!!!!!

Buh-bye SE..../sniff....../cry..... {not reeeeelly}
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#30 Oct 09 2010 at 1:01 AM Rating: Default
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Common sense is missing in this thread.

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#31thehellfire, Posted: Oct 09 2010 at 1:02 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Well isnt gametrailers one of those RMT owned sites like Gamespot and ZAM, and hasnt SE cracked down really hard on RMT, coincidence?
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Well isnt gametrailers one of those RMT owned sites like Gamespot and ZAM, and hasnt SE cracked down really hard on RMT, coincidence?

Yes, the RMT have hijacked all shipments of the game and replaced them with the messed up system/bug riddled mess we have. So they could give an honest and truthful review about said negative problems!!
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#33thehellfire, Posted: Oct 09 2010 at 1:06 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) So say all you ragequit everyday, cancelled preorder everyday trolls who yet still sit here bashing a game they hate so much rather than gtfo and playing something else.
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leveling all the classes and crafting at my pace


That's the thing, you don't get to level at your pace, you level at SEs pace. Now I like alts as much as the next guy but I generally play my main to max before I go back and alt, that way I get to play out the story as my character.

Now I hear the occasional person say they like the game and we should quit QQing. Well I do not enjoy the game, and neither do a lot of other people. If you like the game, go play it, nobody is stopping you. The rest of us will continue to voice our opinions until things get fixed.

The bugs in game can be expected, it's a new game and the kinks need to be ironed out. The problem is that the bugs are just the tip of the iceberg. Several core mechanics are poorly designed, or flat out missing.

The crafting system is a big one for me. Many games use a reaction type crafting system, which I have no problem with. The problem is that other games usually give some type of explanation of the system, where here we're expected to blindly fumble through it until we figure it out. Now if they wanted us to figure out recipes through experimentation, I again have no problem with that, but once we discover them we should learn them and be able to access those recipes somewhere. Requiring us to use the good old PnP method is absurd.

Gathering is another one, no explanation of the mini games. While they are easy to figure out, not giving some type of explanation and again, expecting us to blindly fumble through them does not add an element of difficulty to the game, it simply makes it annoying. And the mini games were fun for about the first thirty seconds, after that they just got old. After an hour they were flat out annoying the **** out of me.

I also hear a lot of people excusing the lack of an AH because FFXI didn't have one at launch. Well if they implemented one for FFXI, they obviously realized they needed one. With FFXIV relying so heavily on a character based economy, not having an AH is simply inexcusable. If they were so set on using the bazaar style retainer system, they should have at the very least added a search feature. And since the player based economy seems to be the backbone of the game, having such a poorly designed system is just.....no.

Travel is a bit on the excessive side, and the horrid recharge rate of Anima only compounds the issue. The copy/pasted textures... Once I've run an area enough times I should be able to tell where I am without opening a map. Unfortunately, I end up running past the same texture every minute or so, giving me the feeling that I'm running in circles.

Questing (leves) are disappointing. Requiring me to go to a magic crystal to start a quest, then teleport back to it once I'm done, completely kills the immersion factor for me. On top of that, the quests do nothing for the storyline. ****, they don't even really carry their own storyline. And any sense of immersion I did have gets destroyed by the leve cap.

"Sorry, you smashed those bugs, kicked those fungi, shot those birds enough times for me today, I don't have any work left for you. Oh, and don't bother going to talk to anyone else, I already told them you work too much so they won't give you any work either. Come back in a day or so and maybe I'll let you kill some more bugs."

Seriously?!?

Now I've been playing MMOs long enough to understand exactly what these things are. Timesinks are how you turn an hours worth of content and stretch it out for a week, but other games at least have enough sense to make these timesinks enjoyable. The excessive travel and that stupid gathering mini game are nothing more than a royal pain.

The MMO industry has been around long enough for companies to know what's excusable and what isn't. Excessive timesinks AND a time based XP cap is NOT excusable. The poorly created, or complete omission of core mechanics and basic features is NOT excusable. What makes it worse is that not only is SE an established gaming company, but this isn't even their first MMO.
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So say all you ragequit everyday, cancelled preorder everyday trolls who yet still sit here bashing a game they hate so much rather than gtfo and playing something else.

Considering your previous post was accusing an RMT conspiracy around the game's bad reviews across the board... I think the troll is sitting in your chair. Enjoy the last words I'll ever direct at you.
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So say all you ragequit everyday, cancelled preorder everyday trolls who yet still sit here bashing a game they hate so much rather than gtfo and playing something else.

Considering your previous post was accusing an RMT conspiracy around the game's bad reviews across the board... I think the troll is sitting in your chair. Enjoy the last words I'll ever direct at you.

Enjoy playing the forums while I enjoy FFXIV
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The fact that they complain about not being able to jump, slow anima recharge rate, lack of info on game mechanics makes this review a complete joke.
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There were fanboys back then, too.

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#39 Oct 09 2010 at 1:26 AM Rating: Good
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PrometheusUnbound wrote:
What I like about FFXIV: A Sadomasochist's review

I like spending 2-3, even 6hrs going through ONE cities market wards looking for an item.

Try looking in peoples bazaars. You can find what you want while you are running around.

I like that as a mage...I can cast a spell, and it will NEVER trigger...until my friendly target dies...healing me for 0.
Get a better PC.

I like running from one city to another...for over an hour, just to bump my 4-leve limit.
Learn to use Aetheryte.

I like...how when I am in a party...I can open my map...and NOT see my party members or link-shell homies.
Check your mini map. ><

I like how nobody except the LS Leader can invite new members to the LS...HAWT!
Appoint an LS leader ..... it's not hard.

I like how when I am at 80/80 bag-space...and I get a stackable item...I have to throw away an inventory item so that it will stack...
Try selling the 60 things you have that are worthless?

I like how SE is so responsive to their paying customers.
Learn how to play the game before you pass judgement.

But most of all...


I LOVE THAT GUILD WARS - II IS COMING OUT SOON!!!!!
Have fun in GW2 .. .
Buh-bye SE..../sniff....../cry..... {not reeeeelly}
see ya ... /sniff ....../cry ...... not really?


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1.) Bazaars=what I was talking about. Retainers=Bazaar...Players=Bazaars...I am unsure which PART of mindlessly searching random bazaars you DIDN'T get...

2.) I have a BLEEDING EDGE PC. The very BEST components. Cost me over 5K NOW...before you jump on the "Well MR NEGATIVE IT'S OBVIOUSLY YOUR CONNECTION THEN..." train... I want to point out, that before you do...you (as a FANBOI.../tease) suggested with some all-knowing wisdom...that it was my PC that was the problem. Here's my response: "If you don't know the answer...kindly STFU and have a coke & a smile."

3.) I can do 8 regular leves a day per 36hrs, I have 100 Anima points. To teleport between regions costs me 6 anima... SO! If I WANT TO DO 8 REGULAR LEVES per-36HRS...I CAN...if I want to continually reduce my anima as I go (with no consideration for other uses for it during parties) do as you so BRILLIANTLY suggest and simply teleport. Which...will in under 2-weeks...reduce me to ZERO anima points. (New to FFXIV?)

4.) I am not responding...your view makes a savant look like Einstein on a red velvet cushioned throne.

5.) Ditto

6.) HEY!...here's an idea...how about making a system where stuff works as intended, eh? Instead of defending things obviously FUBAR.

7.) I hate Fanbois... Either the game is good...or it's not.... A good game needs no defense. The very idea of you responding to my post in an adversarial way means that this game is in trouble if you are a fan of it.

Thanks for playin'.....
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#40 Oct 09 2010 at 1:28 AM Rating: Good
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Stop using caps.
Hurts my eyes, no matter how right you may be.

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#41Tenfooterten, Posted: Oct 09 2010 at 1:29 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) wow, someone is ****-hurt.
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wow, someone is ****-hurt.


FFXIV makes porno queens "BUTTHURT"
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#43 Oct 09 2010 at 1:34 AM Rating: Good
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I was a member of the alpha and closed and open beta, and I could tell from all those phases that this wasn't the game for me. Looks like GT got it right on the money. It's an unfinished, buggy, superficial mess.

There's no denying, it's a beautiful game visually. The only problem was, I was running it on a laptop (though a newer more higher spec'd model) and the lag issues coupled with the laggy interface and frustrating command input made the game feel very much like work, not like I was testing a game which, despite it's flaws I would feel the need to come back to. The graphics are what SE has seemingly paid the most attention to and been playing up the most, but from talking to other gamers who *don't* have either top of the line or very new computers, it limits a large number of people who would be interested in playing it because the specs are just too demanding. The whole Guildleve and fatigue system seem to be in place for "casual MMO players" but if the game is so demanding, why would a person who was casually into playing games have a tricked out computer to handle the game? When it came down to it, I didn't see the point or the practicality of paying 3/500$ to start playing one game when my laptop handles just about anything else just fine. Limiting the playerbase was just one of the games flaws.

Yes, there are numerous problems like the lack of an AH, which seems like a given at this point. But the absolute biggest turn-off of FFXIV for me, was that it lacked any sort of heart. It kind of felt like a shiny, soulless FFXI. There was no sense of wonder and excitement like when I started FFXI. It all felt like going from point a to point b, except there was no point c to follow up on. The quests gave you more interactions with the NPC's and opened up more story points, as well as taking you to new areas, and the jobs were different enough that they felt special. Lets be honest, if you're playing a fantasy game, would you rather be a Lancer, who does tricks with a lance and something about distance or a dragon knight with a pet dragon at his command and classic Final Fantasy Dragoon moves? All and all, my whole FFXIV experience was very flat, and for a fantasy game, just felt boring and uninspired. Although I have to admit running around as a gruff voiced, bearded Lalafell was pretty cool.

IMO, I think SE should have just waited until march to have a simultaneous release with the PS3 version. Now the damage is done, and because of the abysmal reviews it's getting for being as some review companies have said, an unfinished rush-job, many people are going to be turned away from the experience. Even if they *do* somehow turn this around and make it into an amazing game, they're totally reliant on gamer word-of-mouth now. It makes me sad, I was really looking forward to this...
#44 Oct 09 2010 at 1:34 AM Rating: Default
PrometheusUnbound wrote:
Teneleven wrote:
PrometheusUnbound wrote:
What I like about FFXIV: A Sadomasochist's review

I like spending 2-3, even 6hrs going through ONE cities market wards looking for an item.

Try looking in peoples bazaars. You can find what you want while you are running around.

I like that as a mage...I can cast a spell, and it will NEVER trigger...until my friendly target dies...healing me for 0.
Get a better PC.

I like running from one city to another...for over an hour, just to bump my 4-leve limit.
Learn to use Aetheryte.

I like...how when I am in a party...I can open my map...and NOT see my party members or link-shell homies.
Check your mini map. ><

I like how nobody except the LS Leader can invite new members to the LS...HAWT!
Appoint an LS leader ..... it's not hard.

I like how when I am at 80/80 bag-space...and I get a stackable item...I have to throw away an inventory item so that it will stack...
Try selling the 60 things you have that are worthless?

I like how SE is so responsive to their paying customers.
Learn how to play the game before you pass judgement.

But most of all...


I LOVE THAT GUILD WARS - II IS COMING OUT SOON!!!!!
Have fun in GW2 .. .
Buh-bye SE..../sniff....../cry..... {not reeeeelly}
see ya ... /sniff ....../cry ...... not really?


Edited, Oct 9th 2010 3:03am by Teneleven




1.) Bazaars=what I was talking about. Retainers=Bazaar...Players=Bazaars...I am unsure which PART of mindlessly searching random bazaars you DIDN'T get...

2.) I have a BLEEDING EDGE PC. The very BEST components. Cost me over 5K NOW...before you jump on the "Well MR NEGATIVE IT'S OBVIOUSLY YOUR CONNECTION THEN..." train... I want to point out, that before you do...you (as a FANBOI.../tease) suggested with some all-knowing wisdom...that it was my PC that was the problem. Here's my response: "If you don't know the answer...kindly STFU and have a coke & a smile."

3.) I can do 8 regular leves a day per 36hrs, I have 100 Anima points. To teleport between regions costs me 6 anima... SO! If I WANT TO DO 8 REGULAR LEVES per-36HRS...I CAN...if I want to continually reduce my anima as I go (with no consideration for other uses for it during parties) do as you so BRILLIANTLY suggest and simply teleport. Which...will in under 2-weeks...reduce me to ZERO anima points. (New to FFXIV?)

4.) I am not responding...your view makes a savant look like Einstein on a red velvet cushioned throne.

5.) Ditto

6.) HEY!...here's an idea...how about making a system where stuff works as intended, eh? Instead of defending things obviously FUBAR.

7.) I hate Fanbois... Either the game is good...or it's not.... A good game needs no defense. The very idea of you responding to my post in an adversarial way means that this game is in trouble if you are a fan of it.

Thanks for playin'.....

I don't get your arguments. You are ******** because you have to look around for stuff to buy? You are ******** because you have no knowledge on how leves work? Dumbass, you don't have to goto other cities. Do lvl 10 and lvl 20 leves, if you are a cheapskate. Don't come on these forums crying like it's the end of the world, because you are too stupid to see the solutions.
#45 Oct 09 2010 at 1:35 AM Rating: Good
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Maybe he's butthurt, but basically what he writes is just the truth.
(With or without caps).

The game sure has a lot of potential.
If it survives the next 6 months.

Honestly, any of you tried battle regimens yet?
They were labeled as one of "the" features since the game was announced back in 2009.
Those who did, will most likely confirm that it's basically a missing feature.
Those who did not perhaps realized that at the current stage of the game regimens
are either not necessary (because sadly zerging wins hands down) or opportunities
to use them are all but absent. Because the partying mechanics are broken.

Well done, SE.
#46 Oct 09 2010 at 1:41 AM Rating: Excellent
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You are ******** because you have to look around for stuff to buy?


I'm not upset because I have to look for stuff to buy, but because this takes hours to complete.
Countless hours of material-hunting for crafts is not the kind of fun many people enjoy.

Then again, perhaps you believe that it's right this "hardcoreness" that seperates the men from
the boys, and that only those who don't mind grinding the retainer ward deserve to survive...

Well, in that case there's little I can do against it. I just wonder how many players feel like
you, and how many do like I do? And how many of the former will be necessary to keep the servers
running? And how they will profit from their hardcoreness once the "softcake" players have left...
#47 Oct 09 2010 at 1:42 AM Rating: Default
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Well, phew. I never form an opinion of my own and stick to it until some review says that something sucks.

I mean, I always felt that something might suck, but I wasn't so sure how much faith I should place in my own interpretation of "suck." But now, random people on websites say it sucks, so I know for sure that it must suck. If everyone said something was "awesome," I think I just might have to take back that initial appraisal of "suck." However, it is a good thing that everyone says something must suck, so now I can quit in peace, knowing that my thoughts have been reaffirmed.


This is an interesting look at the formation of opinion and how 'individuality' is increasingly rare.

#48 Oct 09 2010 at 1:42 AM Rating: Good
Khronus66 wrote:
"Too many good MMO's on the market for you to time your time and money on this broken, incomplete mess".

As much as I do not want to believe this....it's true. It's becoming much easier to block out the trolls still backing this game when you see reviews like this.

And to those scrubs who think they will be level 50 everything king of their servers when everyone "comes back".....there will be nothing to come back to. So many players have quit already because after just two weeks, they realized that this piece of JUNK should not have been released as a piece of junk. The only positive thing this game has going for it is a few videos with bad voice overs.


While I agree the game has many flaws, those who are enjoying the game are not automatically trolls.
We just have different opinions than you, simple. However you sitting there making statements calling us "scrubs" because we have the patience
and dedication to continue playing through the bugs and patches, yeah that makes you look like the troll buddy.

Opinions are different, leave it at that.
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#49 Oct 09 2010 at 1:43 AM Rating: Good
Tenfooterten wrote:
PrometheusUnbound wrote:
Teneleven wrote:
PrometheusUnbound wrote:
What I like about FFXIV: A Sadomasochist's review

I like spending 2-3, even 6hrs going through ONE cities market wards looking for an item.

Try looking in peoples bazaars. You can find what you want while you are running around.

I like that as a mage...I can cast a spell, and it will NEVER trigger...until my friendly target dies...healing me for 0.
Get a better PC.

I like running from one city to another...for over an hour, just to bump my 4-leve limit.
Learn to use Aetheryte.

I like...how when I am in a party...I can open my map...and NOT see my party members or link-shell homies.
Check your mini map. ><

I like how nobody except the LS Leader can invite new members to the LS...HAWT!
Appoint an LS leader ..... it's not hard.

I like how when I am at 80/80 bag-space...and I get a stackable item...I have to throw away an inventory item so that it will stack...
Try selling the 60 things you have that are worthless?

I like how SE is so responsive to their paying customers.
Learn how to play the game before you pass judgement.

But most of all...


I LOVE THAT GUILD WARS - II IS COMING OUT SOON!!!!!
Have fun in GW2 .. .
Buh-bye SE..../sniff....../cry..... {not reeeeelly}
see ya ... /sniff ....../cry ...... not really?


Edited, Oct 9th 2010 3:03am by Teneleven




1.) Bazaars=what I was talking about. Retainers=Bazaar...Players=Bazaars...I am unsure which PART of mindlessly searching random bazaars you DIDN'T get...

2.) I have a BLEEDING EDGE PC. The very BEST components. Cost me over 5K NOW...before you jump on the "Well MR NEGATIVE IT'S OBVIOUSLY YOUR CONNECTION THEN..." train... I want to point out, that before you do...you (as a FANBOI.../tease) suggested with some all-knowing wisdom...that it was my PC that was the problem. Here's my response: "If you don't know the answer...kindly STFU and have a coke & a smile."

3.) I can do 8 regular leves a day per 36hrs, I have 100 Anima points. To teleport between regions costs me 6 anima... SO! If I WANT TO DO 8 REGULAR LEVES per-36HRS...I CAN...if I want to continually reduce my anima as I go (with no consideration for other uses for it during parties) do as you so BRILLIANTLY suggest and simply teleport. Which...will in under 2-weeks...reduce me to ZERO anima points. (New to FFXIV?)

4.) I am not responding...your view makes a savant look like Einstein on a red velvet cushioned throne.

5.) Ditto

6.) HEY!...here's an idea...how about making a system where stuff works as intended, eh? Instead of defending things obviously FUBAR.

7.) I hate Fanbois... Either the game is good...or it's not.... A good game needs no defense. The very idea of you responding to my post in an adversarial way means that this game is in trouble if you are a fan of it.

Thanks for playin'.....

I don't get your arguments. You are ******** because you have to look around for stuff to buy? You are ******** because you have no knowledge on how leves work? Dumbass, you don't have to goto other cities. Do lvl 10 and lvl 20 leves, if you are a cheapskate. Don't come on these forums crying like it's the end of the world, because you are too stupid to see the solutions.



I do understand how the leve system works. Go out at level 5 and do some level 20 leves then...ohhh-wait...nvm, how about some 10's?...crap...gotcha. Your reply about that was Sub-retarded.

This is FFXIV, not FF-ZERO...I played FFXI from NA launch. Your defense of the lack of an item search feature is mind-boggling to say the least. Hey!...let's reverse progress!

Lastly...F-me?! No...F-U
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#50Tenfooterten, Posted: Oct 09 2010 at 1:43 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Have you tried? And, why is he right? Because you agree with him? Is that what makes truth?
#51Tenfooterten, Posted: Oct 09 2010 at 1:47 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I don't care what you played before. If you want to do 8 leves, without using any anima, you will do lvl 10/20 leves. That was your answer.
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