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#1 Oct 09 2010 at 12:40 PM Rating: Default
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Seriously, let's all go and do it.

I can't agree on most of the reviewer's view because if they view FFXIV the same way as they are now, i am pretty sure FFXI is 100% going to get a 2/10.

I am at rage of those reviewers pointing out useless things.

1. No mean of travel? in FFXI, Chocobo are for level 20! Regional teleport starts @ level 10 and only if your region have the area + you did supply quest. Airship is for Rank 5 (which a level 20less have absolutely no chance getting it)

2. walking is tendentious ? Heck, they think chocobo have access every area in FFXI ? Walking is always tendentious every mmorpg. It is a bit longer to run at ffxiv but i have no problem with it. I like a vast world with lots of spaces over a small world crowded with players. Seriously, who doesn't remember their first run from Sandoria/windust/bastok to Jeuno @ level 20? It was HARDER. Not to mention, even WoW let you use mount around 30? (i forgot what level exactly).

3. Complex UI with no help? They obviously never played FFXI, does FFXI offer help to their player? Did FFXI ever have a tutorial instance teach you the basic? No, FFXI is the same.

4. Crafting without recipe? FFXI never ever even have any receipe listed in-game. Craftleve @least give you examples and recipe but FFXI is 100% rely on players to find them and communities. They obviously never played FFXI.

5. Bugs/lag? Let's just ignore that, since no game without its bugs at beginning.

6. a lot of re-use objects for the game world? Which game have different barrels or every tree is different? I never saw one.

7. It is a grind? Which game isn't a grind, you can play WoW and do 1000 of quest, but these quest all come down to "collect X", "Kill X", talk to npc X. repeating these quests are a grind as well. I always found doing quest are worse grind because most cases you are soloing. I rather party xp grind.

8. Story is break up into level? Seriously, FFXI was like this, no level 1 (only job) in FFXI have rank 5. rank 2 require level 10 to do (you need enough reputation), rank 2-3 dragon battle need players to be around level 25. Rank 4 running up the tower need @least 25+ and 50+ to kill miamia for the keys. Rank 5-1 need a group of level 50 to kill the bones, 50+ is require to kill Shadowloard. They must be idiots to even expect a level 1 can go ahead beat the final boss of the game.

9. Mail system? Did FFXI ever have a mail system? my 8 years in that game and i never have problem with not having a mail system. (there is an item transfer system on the other hand, but why is it even useful now?)

10. Linkshell need to be given @ close range. FFXI's Linkshell take an inv and cannot be sent as well, do we ever see people complaint about Linkshell in FFXI. When you invite players into your linkshell in FFXI, you have to make a copy of it and give it to the player, not only that it will take an inventory space forever.

11. No jump, no swim, and you can't drop down the edges in FFXIV? Was that a problem at all? I don't remember you can jump, swim or even drop down from most of the edges in FFXI, the game mechanic is mostly from FFXI, they expect to jump and swim?

I think the reviewers should be people who reviewed FFXI before review FFXIV, because i am pretty sure they would rate FFXI a lot more lower then FFXIV.

Most of the things can be related to FFXI in this game and FFXI is consider a successful MMORPG, I don't see why SE don't build what was success in FFXI in FFXIV.

Edited, Oct 9th 2010 2:44pm by wrongfeifong
#2 Oct 09 2010 at 12:53 PM Rating: Good
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FFXI got rated well because at it's core it was a decent game.

bsphil wrote:
wrongfeifong wrote:
FFXI never got out from that 7.0 even after 8 years
Given how incredibly easy it is to fact check your baseless claims you really shouldn't be making them in the first place. The original ps2 review of FFXI got an 8 out of 10. On GameSpot, even. ****, the original PC release got an 8.2 out of 10 on Gamespot. The average score on Metacritic is an even better 8.5 out of 10. In fact, there is only ONE review of either the original PS2 or original PC version of FFXI that got under a 7.0 out of 10, and that's from Cheat Code Central, they gave it a 6 out of 10. Take your bullsh*t nonsense persecution complex elsewhere, FFXI got strong reviews across the board.

You aren't entitled to your own reality.



FFXIV is a step or four backwards. They've implemented features in FFXIV worse than they had done in FFXI, and there's absolutely no legitimate reason for it.
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#3 Oct 09 2010 at 1:20 PM Rating: Excellent
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Caveat: FFXI was released 8 years ago on a platform with limited hardware, to a limited userbase that had no decent experience with good customer service, and from a company and development team that had zero experience with MMOs or online gaming in general.

FFXIV was released in a time period when MMOs and expectations from online gaming has matured, from a development team that has had 8 years of experience with MMOs and online games, to a world-wide audience, on a platform with little hardware limitations.

FFXIV has some great ideas at its core, but they took every bit of FFXI that made it bad, and somehow managed to make it worse. And the worst part is, that the devs promised that they learned their lesson with FFXI and that they will become more involved with their user base.
#4 Oct 09 2010 at 1:23 PM Rating: Decent
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The reviews are accurate. I play maybe 2 leve quests a day and pray that patch notes come out on ZAM.

Stop crying with bad English and respect the fact that it got better than 0 scores.
#5wrongfeifong, Posted: Oct 09 2010 at 1:28 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) What does FFXI have and FFXIV doesn't really ? Beside the auction, item transfer, chocobo and airship.
#6 Oct 09 2010 at 1:29 PM Rating: Good
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What a stupid post.
#7 Oct 09 2010 at 1:29 PM Rating: Excellent
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wrongfeifong wrote:
2. walking is tendentious ? Heck, they think chocobo have access every area in FFXI ? Walking is always tendentious every mmorpg. It is a bit longer to run at ffxiv but i have no problem with it. I like a vast world with lots of spaces over a small world crowded with players. Seriously, who doesn't remember their first run from Sandoria/windust/bastok to Jeuno @ level 20? It was HARDER. Not to mention, even WoW let you use mount around 30? (i forgot what level exactly).


The word you want is "tedious". "Tendentious" means biased or prejudiced.



EDIT: To be fair though, since so many of your posts are both tedious and tendentious, I can understand the confusion.

Edited, Oct 9th 2010 12:30pm by BastokFL
#8 Oct 09 2010 at 1:49 PM Rating: Good
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"What does FFXI have and FFXIV doesn't really?"

I can't believe you went there but i'll play. AH, NPC Quest (not Leve, but actually story driven quest), Mobs, Transport, BCNM, Garrison, Conquest, Expeditionary Missions, Mog House, no lagging UI, variety in zones.

I could go on but i'll stop here.
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#9 Oct 09 2010 at 2:18 PM Rating: Default
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[quote=wrongfeifong] 9. Mail system? Did FFXI ever have a mail system? my 8 years in that game and i never have problem with not having a mail system. (there is an item transfer system on the other hand, but why is it even useful now?)[quote]


I can believe that I read any off this sh*t.

Yes FFXI does have a mail system and has had it for 8 years so you must be a Troll.

I hope they lock this tread because there is no point in feeding you.

Edited, Oct 9th 2010 5:10pm by Brushy
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#18 Oct 09 2010 at 2:50 PM Rating: Decent
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Playing XI shouldn't be a requirement for playing XIV.
#19 Oct 09 2010 at 2:51 PM Rating: Decent
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sorry for all the .'s work pc is jacked
#20 Oct 09 2010 at 2:57 PM Rating: Decent
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wrongfeifong wrote:

5. Bugs/lag? Let's just ignore that, since no game without its bugs at beginning.


Yeah, I'm sure all games had 5 seconds of lag on three different occasions to craft one item.

Edited, Oct 9th 2010 4:57pm by Gonzi

Edited, Oct 9th 2010 4:57pm by Gonzi
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#21 Oct 09 2010 at 7:42 PM Rating: Decent
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@OP I was going to go over each and every point but there is no way I'm talking any sense into you. If you like the game, go ahead and pay the $50 + $13/month. I think you're nuts, but whatever.
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#22 Oct 09 2010 at 11:18 PM Rating: Decent
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XI this, XI that. While I thoroughly enjoyed my time in XI, I must say that XIV is not XI-2. I, like many, was hoping that it would be XI and make improvements where needed. Camping HNM blew, instance raiding is great, sounds like a great place to start to me.
For some reason they decided to basically start from scratch, but they apparently didn't have the time to do so, and the abomination that is XIV was born.
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#23 Oct 10 2010 at 4:57 AM Rating: Default
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So I got down rated for pointing out the fact that the person who started this thread was trolling?

He obviously never played ff11 read his number "9".
#24 Oct 10 2010 at 5:57 AM Rating: Default
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No the mail system i had in mind is the "mail" letters alike system that they are talking about.

Not the pol online mail or item transfer mail system. When that guy mention the first thing pop up in my mind was a "mail box" from WoW, i completely forgot about moogle/auction house's mail system because i hardly ever use it or i use it as an extra storage since most of the items i got are pretty much EX/rare.

I was at rage of those reviews and just typed this out without reread and correction. My point was that FFXIV carry these features from FFXI directly. I never found people complaint about "non-droppable" edges or swimming or jumping or the alike.

While travels in the game is chocobo or airship or region teleport or spells, most of these are not accessible at beginning of the game until @least level 20+, while the game review is laying out the missing/lack of these without even consider there MIGHT be a level limit on it. Even in FFXI, i doubt any level 10 have access to airship already (unless they are that rich @ level 10 pay the 100k ship pass @ jeuno).

Meanwhile, when they mention the common related bugs/walking, i am pretty sure every games had its design flaws.

Yes, the UI is lagging, but it was FIXED on the day that he did the review, i haven't found any UI lag remain at least from my gameplay after oct 8th.

And without a crafting recipe is something well known in FFXI as SE never left any traces of where to even get these recipe to begin with. I found it to be really fun to look up these recipe on website since more website customize their own way in searching these up.

What i am more **** about was the fact they mention "level requirement" of getting the story-line as if this isn't a RPG. I am pretty sure someone would agree with me that this is definitely something they should never mention in a review especially a RPG because no game in this world allows its level 1 players to reach final boss and beat the game in 10 sec.

I never see a fully voiced game myself as well when they expected everything to be voiced. Especially in more then 5 languages worth, they are over expecting many things and lead to many bias view. That is why i suggest they take the step back and see why FFXI is as it is right now and why FFXIV carry all these flaws from FFXI.

By no mean, this is XI-2, but you still have the same race running around, everything is similar, i would just say this is a XI+3 instead.

Edited, Oct 10th 2010 8:00am by wrongfeifong
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