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#1 Oct 09 2010 at 6:41 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm thinking about buying a copy of FFXIV. I played FFXI for 2-3 years and quit 3 years ago. I still miss my Taru 75 BLM/WHM and some of the people I met on Cerberus. I have played FF 1,4,5,6,7,9,XI so I consider my self to be a "fanboy" and would put up with some shortcomings. That being said, the sheer volume of bashing threads is putting me off. There must be some good aspects of the game no? I'm thinking that FFXIV would be great to play during Calgary's cold winter. With all the cancelled subscriptions i'm sure the servers will be less laggy.

That being said I've never tried Guild Wars or WOW as of yet...

Things I personally like about FFXI:

Partying
Crafting
Notorious Monsters

Thanks.
#2 Oct 09 2010 at 6:46 PM Rating: Good
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Watch and read some of the reviews posted here. They're 100% accurate. The game was released in a very unpolished state and it's hard to ignore.
#3 Oct 09 2010 at 6:46 PM Rating: Good
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Honestly, yes. It's really that bad.
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#4 Oct 09 2010 at 6:47 PM Rating: Good
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man it's so hit and miss you can never tell. The UI is slow and I hope they fix it eventually. Every time I try to sell to an NPC I die a little bit on the inside. Partying is meh, make sure you find people you know haha. There are no NM yet, and they are saying they might only be in Quest type situations, so don't expect to be unique or different.
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#5 Oct 09 2010 at 6:49 PM Rating: Decent
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spence81 wrote:
I'm thinking about buying a copy of FFXIV. I played FFXI for 2-3 years and quit 3 years ago. I still miss my Taru 75 BLM/WHM and some of the people I met on Cerberus. I have played FF 1,4,5,6,7,9,XI so I consider my self to be a "fanboy" and would put up with some shortcomings. That being said, the sheer volume of bashing threads is putting me off. There must be some good aspects of the game no? I'm thinking that FFXIV would be great to play during Calgary's cold winter. With all the cancelled subscriptions i'm sure the servers will be less laggy.

That being said I've never tried Guild Wars or WOW as of yet...

Things I personally like about FFXI:

Partying
Crafting
Notorious Monsters

Thanks.


I think it's at least worth a try for you. The emphasis on partying is the same as in FFXI. The crafting is *better*. It's now a minigame, and so far, the great majority of gear is crafted-only. No NMs as of yet, though. They'll likely be along--you see Leviathan in the opening cutscene for Limsa Lominsa, and Bahamut in the intro video.
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#6 Oct 09 2010 at 6:51 PM Rating: Good
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There's literally no content outside of grinding and a nation quest in each city.

The only reason to play right now, is to get gil and exp, for when they do add actual content.
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#7 Oct 09 2010 at 6:55 PM Rating: Good
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I would recommend waiting awhile before buying it. The game is off on a rough start but bound for a promising future. Thats if SE starts fixing the problems very soon. By waiting on buying will make it more worth it as it will have a more stable economy <Hopefully> , better/more responsive UI <hopefully>, no exp/quests/travel limitations <hopefully>, Better Mob placement <hopefully>, ect~ <hopefully>. Plus+++ your free 30 day trial will be worth it as it will be used on a working game and not a paid beta~ ^__________^


thats my 4 cents

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#8 Oct 09 2010 at 6:59 PM Rating: Decent
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Forums are not the place to ask. Anyone who likes the game, is busy enjoying it and avoiding these forums because of al lthe negativity and retitive threads talkign abotu the same issues we are all aware of, then telling us "I'm quitting" like anyone actually cares.

It's a bunch of like-minded people sitting in a room reaffirming their opinions with each other. The other half is not represented here..

That said, I love the game. Issues exist and I'm glad people are mentioning them and makign them issues. It ensures they will be addressed. That doesn't mean there needs to be 64 topics on it....
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#9 Oct 09 2010 at 7:02 PM Rating: Decent
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Yes it is that bad, I've played FFXI for years and enjoyed it and I the only good thing about FFXIV from the week I played it was the first missions which were finished within 2-3 hours. Everything else in this game to me was crap. Some people like FFXIV now but the majority don't and if you want a good idea of how the game is check out the reviews the game is getting.

Having said all that you will probably still buy it since it has the final fantasy name on it, same as the rest of us that bought it and regret our stupidity.
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#10sylph19, Posted: Oct 09 2010 at 7:06 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Has its up and downs. I still have fun playing it despite it being near impossible to play.
#11 Oct 09 2010 at 7:08 PM Rating: Default
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It's a fun game to play. I make friends and we talk trade materials, make stuff for each other. run around and kill stuff for crystals and materials. slowly but surely improve equipment and tools, skills thus allowing us to venture further than before.

If you are looking for people with question marks over their heads asking you to go collect 20 tiger fangs on the other side of the zone. It simply doesn't exist (yet). So in order to go kill those tigers for their fangs you are gonna have to make your own little quest in your mind combine it with a crafting recipe and off you go.

#12 Oct 09 2010 at 7:09 PM Rating: Good
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spence81 wrote:
I'm thinking about buying a copy of FFXIV. I played FFXI for 2-3 years and quit 3 years ago. I still miss my Taru 75 BLM/WHM and some of the people I met on Cerberus. I have played FF 1,4,5,6,7,9,XI so I consider my self to be a "fanboy" and would put up with some shortcomings. That being said, the sheer volume of bashing threads is putting me off. There must be some good aspects of the game no? I'm thinking that FFXIV would be great to play during Calgary's cold winter. With all the cancelled subscriptions i'm sure the servers will be less laggy.

That being said I've never tried Guild Wars or WOW as of yet...

Things I personally like about FFXI:

Partying
Crafting
Notorious Monsters

Thanks.


It's pretty bad.It has potential but it's hard to accept "potential" when you pay alot of money for a copy and subscription.

That being said,since you live in Alberta FFXIV would prolly be the most exciting thing you've seen in years :P..j/k
#13 Oct 09 2010 at 7:09 PM Rating: Default
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Personally, I say if you liked FFXI then get FFXIV.

I'm loving it.

Ignore the bad reviews. It's still an enjoyable game. And it's only going to get better.

It may not have all the content you remember from FFXI, but thats because it's early days. That stuff will come.

If you want to be there from the start and look forward each new addition to the game. Why not start now?
#14 Oct 09 2010 at 7:10 PM Rating: Good
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Smelly wrote:
It's a fun game to play. I make friends and we talk trade materials, make stuff for each other. run around and kill stuff for crystals and materials. slowly but surely improve equipment and tools, skills thus allowing us to venture further than before.

If you are looking for people with question marks over their heads asking you to go collect 20 tiger fangs on the other side of the zone. It simply doesn't exist (yet). So in order to go kill those tigers for their fangs you are gonna have to make your own little quest in your mind combine it with a crafting recipe and off you go.



Not liking FF14 doesn't mean "wants WoW" -- When will people get this? WE WANT A FUNctional FF MMO.
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Louiscool wrote:
Forums are not the place to ask. Anyone who likes the game, is busy enjoying it and avoiding these forums because of al lthe negativity and retitive threads talkign abotu the same issues we are all aware of, then telling us "I'm quitting" like anyone actually cares.

It's a bunch of like-minded people sitting in a room reaffirming their opinions with each other. The other half is not represented here..

That said, I love the game. Issues exist and I'm glad people are mentioning them and makign them issues. It ensures they will be addressed. That doesn't mean there needs to be 64 topics on it....


Listen if you don't like that people are letting something off their chest then ignore them, don't go in and ridicule them and tell them no one cares. No one is making you read their posts and if the title says "I'm quitting then don't read it."
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#16 Oct 09 2010 at 7:14 PM Rating: Default
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hexaemeron wrote:
Smelly wrote:
It's a fun game to play. I make friends and we talk trade materials, make stuff for each other. run around and kill stuff for crystals and materials. slowly but surely improve equipment and tools, skills thus allowing us to venture further than before.

If you are looking for people with question marks over their heads asking you to go collect 20 tiger fangs on the other side of the zone. It simply doesn't exist (yet). So in order to go kill those tigers for their fangs you are gonna have to make your own little quest in your mind combine it with a crafting recipe and off you go.



Not liking FF14 doesn't mean "wants WoW" -- When will people get this? WE WANT A FUNctional FF MMO.


Honestly most of the whining seems to stem from people having a lack of direction. That is. They prefer
connect-the-dots rather than freehand.
#17 Oct 09 2010 at 7:15 PM Rating: Excellent
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Smelly wrote:
hexaemeron wrote:
Smelly wrote:
It's a fun game to play. I make friends and we talk trade materials, make stuff for each other. run around and kill stuff for crystals and materials. slowly but surely improve equipment and tools, skills thus allowing us to venture further than before.

If you are looking for people with question marks over their heads asking you to go collect 20 tiger fangs on the other side of the zone. It simply doesn't exist (yet). So in order to go kill those tigers for their fangs you are gonna have to make your own little quest in your mind combine it with a crafting recipe and off you go.



Not liking FF14 doesn't mean "wants WoW" -- When will people get this? WE WANT A FUNctional FF MMO.


Honestly most of the whining seems to stem from people having a lack of direction. That is. They prefer
connect-the-dots rather than freehand.


No no, the majority of the people are complaining of the lag, the ridiculous UI, the fundamental lack of any material search, etc. Not looking for welfare epix.
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The game isn't completely terrible, but it does have a surprising number of shortcomings after being developed by a company who should have known better. There's a lack of content and enough problems to fill a pool at the moment, but anyone who isn't blinded by their why-isn't-it-perfect-out-of-the-box rage can tell you the game certainly has potential. It wouldn't hurt to get the game and play the free trial while you get the hang of things and then sit back and wait for SE to address the bulk of the problems before playing officially.
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#19 Oct 09 2010 at 7:16 PM Rating: Good
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Smelly wrote:
hexaemeron wrote:
Smelly wrote:
It's a fun game to play. I make friends and we talk trade materials, make stuff for each other. run around and kill stuff for crystals and materials. slowly but surely improve equipment and tools, skills thus allowing us to venture further than before.

If you are looking for people with question marks over their heads asking you to go collect 20 tiger fangs on the other side of the zone. It simply doesn't exist (yet). So in order to go kill those tigers for their fangs you are gonna have to make your own little quest in your mind combine it with a crafting recipe and off you go.



Not liking FF14 doesn't mean "wants WoW" -- When will people get this? WE WANT A FUNctional FF MMO.


Honestly most of the whining seems to stem from people having a lack of direction. That is. They prefer
connect-the-dots rather than freehand.


Don't generalize people. You have no proof of this and you know it. Also it just makes you come off as a douche-bag.
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#20 Oct 09 2010 at 7:20 PM Rating: Default
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hexaemeron wrote:
Smelly wrote:
hexaemeron wrote:
Smelly wrote:
It's a fun game to play. I make friends and we talk trade materials, make stuff for each other. run around and kill stuff for crystals and materials. slowly but surely improve equipment and tools, skills thus allowing us to venture further than before.

If you are looking for people with question marks over their heads asking you to go collect 20 tiger fangs on the other side of the zone. It simply doesn't exist (yet). So in order to go kill those tigers for their fangs you are gonna have to make your own little quest in your mind combine it with a crafting recipe and off you go.



Not liking FF14 doesn't mean "wants WoW" -- When will people get this? WE WANT A FUNctional FF MMO.


Honestly most of the whining seems to stem from people having a lack of direction. That is. They prefer
connect-the-dots rather than freehand.


No no, the majority of the people are complaining of the lag, the ridiculous UI, the fundamental lack of any material search, etc. Not looking for welfare epix.


FFXI lags worse than FFXIV.
Agree UI needs a little work
As for finding stuff. I always get a reply when I ask for a particular material in say. I know I know personal interaction and haggling /gasp
#21 Oct 09 2010 at 7:22 PM Rating: Good
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Smelly wrote:
hexaemeron wrote:
Smelly wrote:
hexaemeron wrote:
Smelly wrote:
It's a fun game to play. I make friends and we talk trade materials, make stuff for each other. run around and kill stuff for crystals and materials. slowly but surely improve equipment and tools, skills thus allowing us to venture further than before.

If you are looking for people with question marks over their heads asking you to go collect 20 tiger fangs on the other side of the zone. It simply doesn't exist (yet). So in order to go kill those tigers for their fangs you are gonna have to make your own little quest in your mind combine it with a crafting recipe and off you go.



Not liking FF14 doesn't mean "wants WoW" -- When will people get this? WE WANT A FUNctional FF MMO.


Honestly most of the whining seems to stem from people having a lack of direction. That is. They prefer
connect-the-dots rather than freehand.


No no, the majority of the people are complaining of the lag, the ridiculous UI, the fundamental lack of any material search, etc. Not looking for welfare epix.


FFXI lags worse than FFXIV.
Agree UI needs a little work
As for finding stuff. I always get a reply when I ask for a particular material in say. I know I know personal interaction and haggling /gasp


Yes because the retainers can answer you. Just because you can find the stuff you need does not mean it is the same for everyone.
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#22 Oct 09 2010 at 7:23 PM Rating: Default
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deathly809 wrote:
Smelly wrote:
hexaemeron wrote:
Smelly wrote:
It's a fun game to play. I make friends and we talk trade materials, make stuff for each other. run around and kill stuff for crystals and materials. slowly but surely improve equipment and tools, skills thus allowing us to venture further than before.

If you are looking for people with question marks over their heads asking you to go collect 20 tiger fangs on the other side of the zone. It simply doesn't exist (yet). So in order to go kill those tigers for their fangs you are gonna have to make your own little quest in your mind combine it with a crafting recipe and off you go.



Not liking FF14 doesn't mean "wants WoW" -- When will people get this? WE WANT A FUNctional FF MMO.


Honestly most of the whining seems to stem from people having a lack of direction. That is. They prefer
connect-the-dots rather than freehand.


Don't generalize people. You have no proof of this and you know it. Also it just makes you come off as a douche-bag.


So you're saying do as you say not as you do? got it.
#23 Oct 09 2010 at 7:25 PM Rating: Excellent
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Honestly the game is boring........... at first you will get into the game and play non-stop then you will get bored. You will grind the same things over and over. There is no difference in the quests kill x or craft x. There is no real community since Partying is not necessary and buying from people in the game makes you want to throw your computer.
#24 Oct 09 2010 at 7:25 PM Rating: Default
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deathly809 wrote:
Smelly wrote:
hexaemeron wrote:
Smelly wrote:
hexaemeron wrote:
Smelly wrote:
It's a fun game to play. I make friends and we talk trade materials, make stuff for each other. run around and kill stuff for crystals and materials. slowly but surely improve equipment and tools, skills thus allowing us to venture further than before.

If you are looking for people with question marks over their heads asking you to go collect 20 tiger fangs on the other side of the zone. It simply doesn't exist (yet). So in order to go kill those tigers for their fangs you are gonna have to make your own little quest in your mind combine it with a crafting recipe and off you go.



Not liking FF14 doesn't mean "wants WoW" -- When will people get this? WE WANT A FUNctional FF MMO.


Honestly most of the whining seems to stem from people having a lack of direction. That is. They prefer
connect-the-dots rather than freehand.


No no, the majority of the people are complaining of the lag, the ridiculous UI, the fundamental lack of any material search, etc. Not looking for welfare epix.


FFXI lags worse than FFXIV.
Agree UI needs a little work
As for finding stuff. I always get a reply when I ask for a particular material in say. I know I know personal interaction and haggling /gasp


Yes because the retainers can answer you. Just because you can find the stuff you need does not mean it is the same for everyone.


Why are you trying to talk to the retainers? Ask a real person because those retainers belong to someone and if they see you asking for something they have then it save you the time. Also you are allowed to ask people like in town not just in the market wards
#25 Oct 09 2010 at 7:27 PM Rating: Good
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Smelly wrote:
deathly809 wrote:
Smelly wrote:
hexaemeron wrote:
Smelly wrote:
It's a fun game to play. I make friends and we talk trade materials, make stuff for each other. run around and kill stuff for crystals and materials. slowly but surely improve equipment and tools, skills thus allowing us to venture further than before.

If you are looking for people with question marks over their heads asking you to go collect 20 tiger fangs on the other side of the zone. It simply doesn't exist (yet). So in order to go kill those tigers for their fangs you are gonna have to make your own little quest in your mind combine it with a crafting recipe and off you go.



Not liking FF14 doesn't mean "wants WoW" -- When will people get this? WE WANT A FUNctional FF MMO.


Honestly most of the whining seems to stem from people having a lack of direction. That is. They prefer
connect-the-dots rather than freehand.


Don't generalize people. You have no proof of this and you know it. Also it just makes you come off as a douche-bag.


So you're saying do as you say not as you do? got it.


You see before there was doubt, now we know; you are a douche-bag.
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#26 Oct 09 2010 at 7:29 PM Rating: Good
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Smelly wrote:
deathly809 wrote:
Smelly wrote:
hexaemeron wrote:
Smelly wrote:
hexaemeron wrote:
Smelly wrote:
It's a fun game to play. I make friends and we talk trade materials, make stuff for each other. run around and kill stuff for crystals and materials. slowly but surely improve equipment and tools, skills thus allowing us to venture further than before.

If you are looking for people with question marks over their heads asking you to go collect 20 tiger fangs on the other side of the zone. It simply doesn't exist (yet). So in order to go kill those tigers for their fangs you are gonna have to make your own little quest in your mind combine it with a crafting recipe and off you go.



Not liking FF14 doesn't mean "wants WoW" -- When will people get this? WE WANT A FUNctional FF MMO.


Honestly most of the whining seems to stem from people having a lack of direction. That is. They prefer
connect-the-dots rather than freehand.


No no, the majority of the people are complaining of the lag, the ridiculous UI, the fundamental lack of any material search, etc. Not looking for welfare epix.


FFXI lags worse than FFXIV.
Agree UI needs a little work
As for finding stuff. I always get a reply when I ask for a particular material in say. I know I know personal interaction and haggling /gasp


Yes because the retainers can answer you. Just because you can find the stuff you need does not mean it is the same for everyone.


Why are you trying to talk to the retainers? Ask a real person because those retainers belong to someone and if they see you asking for something they have then it save you the time. Also you are allowed to ask people like in town not just in the market wards


Those people are not always logged in though, and then what is the point of retainers if you are just going to talk to a person directly at that point. Also the thing still stands that not all people will answer and that the fact you have to run around asking every one if they have something just makes it a time sink and at that point no longer really a game. I am glad that you enjoy the game and I really hope that none of the updates break anything you like, but I really hope the updates do fix somethings so that there is some middle ground that allows all people to be happy.
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#27 Oct 09 2010 at 7:30 PM Rating: Good
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THe game has problems. Some if the issues are bigger to some people, which aren't to others. It's a matter of opinion.

I don't mind the UI, I don't mind the lag a lot of people complain about. (I play with a xbox360 controller. it's very easy to navigate)

The game as we speak now, doesn't have mountains of content to eat up. It's very very limited right now. You can pick up 8 battle quests and 8 crafting quests every 36 hours. This right now is the main type of content the game has you play through. It's not enough to live on if you play more than a couple hours a day.
Guildleves (quests) are meant to be shared amongst other players, a lot of people solo or duo their way through the quests on an easy setting and just blaze through them. Is it a design flaw or a player flaw? If you take away the flexibility of designating a difficulty level then players would be outraged that they are forced into grouping to get their quests done. It's a double edged sword.

Outside of Guildleves or crafting there isn't much to do atm. THere are no NPC issued quests that I know of (up to rank 18). The story missions are triggered by job ranks: 1 10 15 20 and 26 (that i know of so far) So if you're like me and spread your time out over several jobs it might take a while to get to these missions. If you focus on playing 1 type of job then you'll get to see them a lot faster.

FFXIV feels barren and rushed. But for myself it's not unplayable. I'm playing with a good group of people, We farm and do leves together. Craft for eachother. We are all looking forward to version updates which I hope brings bug fixes, added content and some design changes.

If you're uncertain and are easily swayed by other peoples opinions (I mean affected by others attitudes to bring you down) Don't play XIV just yet. Let a month or two pass, let the people who don't like this game leave, the people remaining may have a better outlook for the general potential of the game. Let the devs patch up the game a bit. If after november things are still in this state I'd be a bit more concerned about the welfare of XIV.

You know what my biggest issues with XIV is atm.

The fact that you can't type more than 96 characters into the chat window. It;s very limiting but easy to break up your sentences to work around it.
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#28 Oct 09 2010 at 7:31 PM Rating: Default
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deathly809 wrote:
Smelly wrote:
deathly809 wrote:
Smelly wrote:
hexaemeron wrote:
Smelly wrote:
It's a fun game to play. I make friends and we talk trade materials, make stuff for each other. run around and kill stuff for crystals and materials. slowly but surely improve equipment and tools, skills thus allowing us to venture further than before.

If you are looking for people with question marks over their heads asking you to go collect 20 tiger fangs on the other side of the zone. It simply doesn't exist (yet). So in order to go kill those tigers for their fangs you are gonna have to make your own little quest in your mind combine it with a crafting recipe and off you go.



Not liking FF14 doesn't mean "wants WoW" -- When will people get this? WE WANT A FUNctional FF MMO.


Honestly most of the whining seems to stem from people having a lack of direction. That is. They prefer
connect-the-dots rather than freehand.


Don't generalize people. You have no proof of this and you know it. Also it just makes you come off as a douche-bag.


So you're saying do as you say not as you do? got it.


You see before there was doubt, now we know; you are a douche-bag.


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#29 Oct 09 2010 at 7:31 PM Rating: Excellent
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In all honesty I don't mind the gameplay so much,I mean,it is what it is,nothing revolutionary.But it's not as bad as some ppl make it out.As for crafting,I don't mind it either,again it is what it is.

What I can't stand is pretty much everyones big problem,the UI.

I can say with 100% certainty it is the WORST user interface made,in the last 5 or 10 years.Not just for MMO's,or games.It is worse than any UI made for any application.The UI is worse than windows 3.1...worse than mac os9..The UI sets a new standard for poor design.It's like the devs asked some laid off microsoft devs how to make a UI.

This is 2010,the age of Drag and Drop guys,come on gimme a break.The big explination is because it has to be compatible with PS3,so they can't do drag and drop..MY PS3 can use a mouse and kb so try another excuse.

They took everything that actually works in a game,and did the exact opposite in an attemp to be innovative.But like Steve jobs once said,"sometimes you gotta forget innovation and realize people like cars with 4 wheels".Theres things that have been perfected over the past 5-10 years,and they might just be as good as they will get.Like Auction Houses...This is something that just works in MMO's,not making an AH isn't innovative,it's just dumb.

It's like if Mercedes said,"ok we're gonna make a new kind of car,but instead of using a motor you have to get out and push it everywhere!!".Then all the fanboys get online and go,"It's called innovation,if you wanna be lazy and use an engine go back to Honda!!".

I know they are gonna sort of make a pseudo AH sometime but w/e,for 80 bucks I want it now,sry.
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Smelly wrote:
deathly809 wrote:
Smelly wrote:
deathly809 wrote:
Smelly wrote:
hexaemeron wrote:
Smelly wrote:
It's a fun game to play. I make friends and we talk trade materials, make stuff for each other. run around and kill stuff for crystals and materials. slowly but surely improve equipment and tools, skills thus allowing us to venture further than before.

If you are looking for people with question marks over their heads asking you to go collect 20 tiger fangs on the other side of the zone. It simply doesn't exist (yet). So in order to go kill those tigers for their fangs you are gonna have to make your own little quest in your mind combine it with a crafting recipe and off you go.



Not liking FF14 doesn't mean "wants WoW" -- When will people get this? WE WANT A FUNctional FF MMO.


Honestly most of the whining seems to stem from people having a lack of direction. That is. They prefer
connect-the-dots rather than freehand.


Don't generalize people. You have no proof of this and you know it. Also it just makes you come off as a douche-bag.


So you're saying do as you say not as you do? got it.


You see before there was doubt, now we know; you are a douche-bag.


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Thanks, been here for years actually haha.
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#31 Oct 09 2010 at 7:35 PM Rating: Decent
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Smelly wrote:
deathly809 wrote:
Smelly wrote:
deathly809 wrote:
Smelly wrote:
hexaemeron wrote:
Smelly wrote:
It's a fun game to play. I make friends and we talk trade materials, make stuff for each other. run around and kill stuff for crystals and materials. slowly but surely improve equipment and tools, skills thus allowing us to venture further than before.

If you are looking for people with question marks over their heads asking you to go collect 20 tiger fangs on the other side of the zone. It simply doesn't exist (yet). So in order to go kill those tigers for their fangs you are gonna have to make your own little quest in your mind combine it with a crafting recipe and off you go.



Not liking FF14 doesn't mean "wants WoW" -- When will people get this? WE WANT A FUNctional FF MMO.


Honestly most of the whining seems to stem from people having a lack of direction. That is. They prefer
connect-the-dots rather than freehand.


Don't generalize people. You have no proof of this and you know it. Also it just makes you come off as a douche-bag.


So you're saying do as you say not as you do? got it.


You see before there was doubt, now we know; you are a douche-bag.


Welcome to ZAM


Thanks, been here for years actually haha.


Long as were on the same page then (+1)
#32 Oct 09 2010 at 7:38 PM Rating: Decent
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In all honesty I don't mind the gameplay so much,I mean,it is what it is,nothing revolutionary.But it's not as bad as some ppl make it out.As for crafting,I don't mind it either,again it is what it is.

What I can't stand is pretty much everyones big problem,the UI.

I can say with 100% certainty it is the WORST user interface made,in the last 5 or 10 years.Not just for MMO's,or games.It is worse than any UI made for any application.The UI is worse than windows 3.1...worse than mac os9..The UI sets a new standard for poor design.It's like the devs asked some laid off microsoft devs how to make a UI.

This is 2010,the age of Drag and Drop guys,come on gimme a break.The big explination is because it has to be compatible with PS3,so they can't do drag and drop..MY PS3 can use a mouse and kb so try another excuse.

They took everything that actually works in a game,and did the exact opposite in an attemp to be innovative.But like Steve jobs once said,"sometimes you gotta forget innovation and realize people like cars with 4 wheels".Theres things that have been perfected over the past 5-10 years,and they might just be as good as they will get.Like Auction Houses...This is something that just works in MMO's,not making an AH isn't innovative,it's just dumb.

It's like if Mercedes said,"ok we're gonna make a new kind of car,but instead of using a motor you have to get out and push it everywhere!!".Then all the fanboys get online and go,"It's called innovation,if you wanna be lazy and use an engine go back to Honda!!".

I know they are gonna sort of make a pseudo AH sometime but w/e,for 80 bucks I want it now,sry.


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FFXI lags worse than FFXIV.


lol what a dumbass.

Anyways OP, no, I couldn't recommend this game to anyone right now. Hopefully in the future I can, but right now there's just too many flaws. Unless you're willing to excuse a ton of things that end up frustrating any sane human (which many seem to not be) right and left than you're better off just waiting. There are so many things in this game that you will run into, thing after thing that just annoy the living **** out of you. After so many hours and so many days of it the game just starts being unenjoyable. There's a lot of people who want REALLY badly to like it and cannot accept the truth, they will defend it left and right and how all the people enjoying it are off in neverland having fun but the reality is unless you can convince yourself it's fun it just isn't right now.
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FFXI lags worse than FFXIV.


lol what a dumbass.

Anyways OP, no, I couldn't recommend this game to anyone right now. Hopefully in the future I can, but right now there's just too many flaws. Unless you're willing to excuse a ton of things that end up frustrating any sane human (which many seem to not be) right and left than you're better off just waiting. There are so many things in this game that you will run into, thing after thing that just annoy the living **** out of you. After so many hours and so many days of it the game just starts being unenjoyable. There's a lot of people who want REALLY badly to like it and cannot accept the truth, they will defend it left and right and how all the people enjoying it are off in neverland having fun but the reality is unless you can convince yourself it's fun it just isn't right now.


OH **** you're right bro what was I thinking. gosh.
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Let me put this out there. I don't think you're a douchebag, Smelly. But I really meant what I said. We don't want WoW. I played that. I wanted to play 14. I just can't give SE money knowing the game is in the state it's in.
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Remember how this same thread was basically made a few weeks ago or at beta and people had something completely different to say? You can tell the level of fanboyism each person is. The first ones to hate it were Denial Fanboys that hate the game but can't help but try it, buy it and play it. Next were average players just realizing how bad things were. Then minor fanboys asking "what the **** why are there no fixes?" Then the majority of the board which are large fans of square since forever. All that are left are the super fans of Square. Come and give into your feelings of hatred and join us.

I was part of the minor fanboy crowd by the way so I'm not some outsider. I just kinda realized it. It's kinda funny really.
#37 Oct 09 2010 at 7:52 PM Rating: Excellent
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Forums are not the place to ask.



Where is the place to ask? I was under the impression that forums were a place to trade information.

To answer the OP question. Yes.
#38 Oct 09 2010 at 7:56 PM Rating: Decent
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Let me put this out there. I don't think you're a douchebag, Smelly. But I really meant what I said. We don't want WoW. I played that. I wanted to play 14. I just can't give SE money knowing the game is in the state it's in.


I don't want wow either but a lot of people do and most of the people here are just trolls anyway. It's a multigame website and there are always instigators.
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Didn't I already see this thread with the same name and same tired topic?

Anywho no it's not that bad. The crying about it is that bad tho. It has problems. Some of them worse than others. SE is supposed to have a major fix out in a week and has already made several small and 1 big fix. Once you start the freakin emo kid razor wagon tho there will be no end to the tears it seems. It is very playable if your computer doesn't suck. If your computer sucks you probably won't enjoy it at all.
#40 Oct 09 2010 at 8:08 PM Rating: Good
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FFXI lags worse than FFXIV.


Your joking right?
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I would not recomend the game in its current state.

There is no directions at all, in what your doing or how to do anything. There is nothing complex in FFXIV crafting. They just make you go through a long process. Which I personaly think they did on purpose so you eat up your time doing stupid useless clicks so you don't have time to see that there isn't much else to the game. When your wasting so much time equiping, unequiping, scrolling through items cause there is no real inventoring of your stuff. Having you re-invent the wheel every time you want to use a cart does not equal complex crafting. Add the no real market, AH, and mailing and you have an economy that will never work.

The UI is just horrible. SE took a leap back with their UI design for this game.

There isn't much to do right now except grind.
#42 Oct 09 2010 at 8:19 PM Rating: Good
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Didn't I already see this thread with the same name and same tired topic?

Anywho no it's not that bad. The crying about it is that bad tho. It has problems. Some of them worse than others. SE is supposed to have a major fix out in a week and has already made several small and 1 big fix. Once you start the freakin emo kid razor wagon tho there will be no end to the tears it seems. It is very playable if your computer doesn't suck. If your computer sucks you probably won't enjoy it at all.


If by big fix you're talking about the SP gain issue in party then no, that is still broken.
#43 Oct 09 2010 at 8:24 PM Rating: Default
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Smelly wrote:

FFXI lags worse than FFXIV.


Your joking right?


Not really, no.

FFXI performs (slightly)worse than FFXIV on my system. key words: "my system"

FFXI UI performs better than FFXIV UI by quite a bit.
#44 Oct 09 2010 at 8:34 PM Rating: Excellent
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This game is just the best looking game for now. Nothing else is worth mentioning.
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Heh you guys are funny. Thanks for all the input!

You may be dissappointed in me but I still feel like subscribing. As one poster mentioned there really isn't much to do in this crappy province (Alberta). Can't wait to move back to Toronto you know "Where everybody knows your name, and they're always glad you came. You wanna be where you can see, our troubles are all the same you wanna be where everybody knows your name."

Might as well build xp so at least I'm ahead. I'm more of a grinder anyway. That being said I wanted to try to be something like a Thief this time around but they don't have anything like it :(

At least they made Alchemy a lot cooler. Half the stuff we Alchemists made in FFXI could never be used by others because it didn't make economic sense.
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I find myself enjoying the game a lot. My linkshell is much the same. We craft together, do battleleves together and explore random high level areas together while avoiding the aggroing mobs that will one shot us.

We're having a blast and we've all signed up for at least another month. Having more fun now than I ever did in WoW which bored me to tears in the first hour. People have different opinions. I just wish people were more patient, have less of a 'now now now' mentality and make decisions for themselves without needing to check reviews to be told how to think. Every MMO these days is more hype than substance and the Star Wars mmo will be no different. They all come out with too little content, tons of bugs and people will always find something to complain about.

Simply put I enjoy this game a lot. Its new, challenging and a breath of fresh air.

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Chnmmr wrote:
I find myself enjoying the game a lot. My linkshell is much the same. We craft together, do battleleves together and explore random high level areas together while avoiding the aggroing mobs that will one shot us.

We're having a blast and we've all signed up for at least another month. Having more fun now than I ever did in WoW which bored me to tears in the first hour. People have different opinions. I just wish people were more patient, have less of a 'now now now' mentality and make decisions for themselves without needing to check reviews to be told how to think. Every MMO these days is more hype than substance and the Star Wars mmo will be no different. They all come out with too little content, tons of bugs and people will always find something to complain about.

Simply put I enjoy this game a lot. Its new, challenging and a breath of fresh air.

Edited, Oct 9th 2010 11:55pm by Chnmmr


I guess people can find fun in anything. I guess that's good?
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It has potential... wait a few months, see how it pans out.

Right now, it can either improve nicely (features the community are requesting get implemented) or it can take a nose dive rather fast (they improve existing broken systems, ignoring the community).

Seriously, wait a few months - see how the developers react to their player base.

Edit: for clarity- the examples i gave were about the possiblity of an AH and the existing retainer system, respectively.

Edited, Oct 10th 2010 12:58am by KacesofCaitsith
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Don't listen to others who are complaining about how bad the game is, because the game itself is not bad. The in-game features has some serious flaws and that makes the game less enjoyable. However, if they fix those issues you will have a better playable game, but it will still be the 'same' game. Not WoW, not FFXI, it will still be FFXIV. Keep that in mind.

I like the game because it feels like a console game and i like traditional RPG's more then MMORPG's. That's why i can live with the problems that this game has. In meanwhile SE are fixing things, even when people still complaining about not listening to them. It will be a slow progress, but if you are willing to live with that then buy the game. If not, wait at least a half year or one year.
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I'm thinking about buying a copy of FFXIV. I played FFXI for 2-3 years and quit 3 years ago. I still miss my Taru 75 BLM/WHM and some of the people I met on Cerberus. I have played FF 1,4,5,6,7,9,XI so I consider my self to be a "fanboy" and would put up with some shortcomings. That being said, the sheer volume of bashing threads is putting me off. There must be some good aspects of the game no? I'm thinking that FFXIV would be great to play during Calgary's cold winter. With all the cancelled subscriptions i'm sure the servers will be less laggy.

That being said I've never tried Guild Wars or WOW as of yet...

Things I personally like about FFXI:

Partying
Crafting
Notorious Monsters

Thanks.


I'm also in the same position as you. I'd like to try the game but the bad reviews and the weeks I've been on the XIV forums, have lead me to the conclusion that the game isn't what I'd want or desire or simply isn't worth playing atm - XIV doesn't hold it's end of the deal.

I'm waiting for it to improve.
#51 Oct 10 2010 at 1:55 AM Rating: Good
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spence81 wrote:
I'm thinking about buying a copy of FFXIV. I played FFXI for 2-3 years and quit 3 years ago. I still miss my Taru 75 BLM/WHM and some of the people I met on Cerberus. I have played FF 1,4,5,6,7,9,XI so I consider my self to be a "fanboy" and would put up with some shortcomings. That being said, the sheer volume of bashing threads is putting me off. There must be some good aspects of the game no? I'm thinking that FFXIV would be great to play during Calgary's cold winter. With all the cancelled subscriptions i'm sure the servers will be less laggy.

That being said I've never tried Guild Wars or WOW as of yet...

Things I personally like about FFXI:

Partying
Crafting
Notorious Monsters

Thanks.


To be bad it'd have to be completed.

Of course, no mmo is ever 'complete', but you get my idea.

One thing I absolutely do not understand is people saying 'give this game a break' when even Square Enix doesn't want any reviews till mid-to-late October.

Why do you think that is?!

Obviously because they don't want to be judged on an unfinished product. Nice job programmers.

The only reason I won't delete this 'game' is A.) my friend and B.) it actually has potential and while it could very well suck a year from now, I won't totally give up hope.


Edited, Oct 10th 2010 3:56am by Weeeeee711
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