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#102 Oct 12 2010 at 5:56 PM Rating: Good
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Brushy wrote:
This statement is in there user agreement.

SQUARE ENIX MAY SUSPEND, TERMINATE, MODIFY, OR DELETE FINAL FANTASY XIV SERVICE ACCOUNTS, CHARACTERS, VIRTUAL GOODS, OR THE SERVICE ALTOGETHER, AT ANY TIME FOR ANY REASON OR FOR NO REASON, WITH OR WITHOUT NOTICE OR LIABILITY TO YOU.

Small claims court will throw the case out.


Depends on what country he's in. Contracts cannot override law.
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I thought of it first:

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=10&mid=130073657654872218#20
#103 Oct 12 2010 at 5:57 PM Rating: Decent
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2) I was banned because my retainer(i've never used it.. not even really sure what it is) was used for RMT spamming.


Ok, that one just made me laugh and cry all at the same time... how in the world can a retainer RMT spam... Seriously? And if it can, how can we control it? I would say that either SE's system has been hacked, or for some crazy psychotic reason SE added a spamming feature for retainers... Which would do shouts in the market ward???

Yeah, tempted to deactivate my account until the dust settles... No point in getting banned for existing. And I barely have time to play the game let alone deal with their "wonderful" Customer disservice.


I have seen some retainers with names of the gil buying sites such as wwwbuymygolddotcom
#104 Oct 12 2010 at 5:59 PM Rating: Decent
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rfolkker wrote:
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2) I was banned because my retainer(i've never used it.. not even really sure what it is) was used for RMT spamming.


Ok, that one just made me laugh and cry all at the same time... how in the world can a retainer RMT spam... Seriously? And if it can, how can we control it? I would say that either SE's system has been hacked, or for some crazy psychotic reason SE added a spamming feature for retainers... Which would do shouts in the market ward???

Yeah, tempted to deactivate my account until the dust settles... No point in getting banned for existing. And I barely have time to play the game let alone deal with their "wonderful" Customer disservice.


"RMT activity" is the catch-all excuse SE uses when they don't want to tell you why they really banned you.
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Final Fantasy XI 12-14-11 Update wrote:
Adjust the resolution of menus.
The main screen resolution for "FINAL FANTASY XI" is dependent on the "Overlay Graphics Resolution" setting.
If the Overlay Graphics Resolution is set higher than the Menu Resolution, menus will be automatically resized.


I thought of it first:

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=10&mid=130073657654872218#20
#105 Oct 12 2010 at 6:02 PM Rating: Decent
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Lobivopis wrote:
Brushy wrote:
This statement is in there user agreement.

SQUARE ENIX MAY SUSPEND, TERMINATE, MODIFY, OR DELETE FINAL FANTASY XIV SERVICE ACCOUNTS, CHARACTERS, VIRTUAL GOODS, OR THE SERVICE ALTOGETHER, AT ANY TIME FOR ANY REASON OR FOR NO REASON, WITH OR WITHOUT NOTICE OR LIABILITY TO YOU.

Small claims court will throw the case out.


Depends on what country he's in. Contracts cannot override law.


i went over this in another game recently where people were trying to state contract vs law

when it comes to MMOs specificaly, or any "subscription" you really have no rights, they can cancel your account any time they want, and no law can protect you, period.
We do not own our characters, we do not own the items on them, they are all property of the company running the game in the eyes of the law.
Its just like walking into a store and being kicked out "because they dont want you in there" the right to refuse service and so on.
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#106 Oct 12 2010 at 6:02 PM Rating: Decent
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KarlHungis Delivers on Time wrote:

On the other hand, it's simpler to go through your credit or debit card issuer. They're more than happy to refund your money and take it out of disbursements for S-E or whatever shady 3rd party site S-E is using. If the vendor doesn't like it, their choice is basically to stop taking any cards from that bank or brand (ie, nothing from Visa, or nothing from BOA, or whoever you have).


Can't reverse chartges if you have used VBV or Securecode.

That's really why SE went to them, so that people can't reverse charges it had nothing to do with "protecting customers"

Edited, Oct 12th 2010 9:06pm by Lobivopis
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Final Fantasy XI 12-14-11 Update wrote:
Adjust the resolution of menus.
The main screen resolution for "FINAL FANTASY XI" is dependent on the "Overlay Graphics Resolution" setting.
If the Overlay Graphics Resolution is set higher than the Menu Resolution, menus will be automatically resized.


I thought of it first:

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=10&mid=130073657654872218#20
#107 Oct 12 2010 at 6:18 PM Rating: Default
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My character was rumple ******** the lalafell with my retainer masterbait the elf idk why I got banned :( So unfair! OMG!
#108Dartagon, Posted: Oct 12 2010 at 8:13 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I know like, I break the rules constantly and cant figure out why I get banned on every single MMo I play... JEEZ these mage corporations are meanie means.
#109 Oct 12 2010 at 8:54 PM Rating: Decent
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Vedis wrote:
Lobivopis wrote:
Brushy wrote:
This statement is in there user agreement.

SQUARE ENIX MAY SUSPEND, TERMINATE, MODIFY, OR DELETE FINAL FANTASY XIV SERVICE ACCOUNTS, CHARACTERS, VIRTUAL GOODS, OR THE SERVICE ALTOGETHER, AT ANY TIME FOR ANY REASON OR FOR NO REASON, WITH OR WITHOUT NOTICE OR LIABILITY TO YOU.

Small claims court will throw the case out.


Depends on what country he's in. Contracts cannot override law.


i went over this in another game recently where people were trying to state contract vs law

when it comes to MMOs specificaly, or any "subscription" you really have no rights, they can cancel your account any time they want, and no law can protect you, period.
We do not own our characters, we do not own the items on them, they are all property of the company running the game in the eyes of the law.
Its just like walking into a store and being kicked out "because they dont want you in there" the right to refuse service and so on.



That is true, However there is no legal backing that they can keep the money. Anyone feeling like going to small claims court to try and prove a point, may actually get their money back (but it'll likely cost more to file, miss work, and/or travel to actually go to court, than they would be suing for). If you were to say, pay 6 months up front, and you're banned after 2, they do owe you 4 months back. I don't actually think it could ever refund the box/account price, but someone may actually want to try it.
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#110 Oct 12 2010 at 9:05 PM Rating: Decent
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You were clearly using third party tools. How dare you use a keyboard/mouse/controller!
I've been using windower (the one that got shut down) and I'm not banned. ¬_¬
...yet
Well it took the OP a couple hours of play, I've been playing about a week.

Based on how little they cared about going after windower users in FFXI, I'd say I'm fine.
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#111 Oct 12 2010 at 9:42 PM Rating: Decent
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KujaKoF wrote:
Vedis wrote:
Lobivopis wrote:
Brushy wrote:
This statement is in there user agreement.

SQUARE ENIX MAY SUSPEND, TERMINATE, MODIFY, OR DELETE FINAL FANTASY XIV SERVICE ACCOUNTS, CHARACTERS, VIRTUAL GOODS, OR THE SERVICE ALTOGETHER, AT ANY TIME FOR ANY REASON OR FOR NO REASON, WITH OR WITHOUT NOTICE OR LIABILITY TO YOU.

Small claims court will throw the case out.


Depends on what country he's in. Contracts cannot override law.


i went over this in another game recently where people were trying to state contract vs law

when it comes to MMOs specificaly, or any "subscription" you really have no rights, they can cancel your account any time they want, and no law can protect you, period.
We do not own our characters, we do not own the items on them, they are all property of the company running the game in the eyes of the law.
Its just like walking into a store and being kicked out "because they dont want you in there" the right to refuse service and so on.



That is true, However there is no legal backing that they can keep the money. Anyone feeling like going to small claims court to try and prove a point, may actually get their money back (but it'll likely cost more to file, miss work, and/or travel to actually go to court, than they would be suing for). If you were to say, pay 6 months up front, and you're banned after 2, they do owe you 4 months back. I don't actually think it could ever refund the box/account price, but someone may actually want to try it.


The only way they would win the case is if the company in question banned them for no reason.
If say for instance, your an RMT, and you get cauvht after 1 month, and paid for 6, no way in **** youll get it back.
If they saved chat logs of you harrassing and verbaly abusing other players, and being warned by GMs to stop, and continuing to do it anyway...and banned you, once again, you are at fault, you will not be seeing any of that money back no matter how much you paid in advance.

But it does still protect from things such as wrongful punishment, but in any case where it will go to court, i guarentee you the company will have its bases covered. If there is ever a real issue where they "may" be in the wrong, then theyd quicker issue a refund then let it go further(also, taking it to court without first asking for a refund or going through the proper channels opens the doors for them to charge you for legal fees, which isnt a good thing either, and is actualy justified)
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#112 Oct 12 2010 at 9:53 PM Rating: Default
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not sure if it's been said in this thread yet or not. but the terms of service agreement states SE can ban your account for any reason, without letting you know.

be glad you got a warning at the very least.

But good job SE, way to suck yet again =]
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#113 Oct 12 2010 at 10:04 PM Rating: Decent
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With all of the "maybe you were hacked" theories floating around, I'm inclined to inquire if you downloaded the updates/patches whatever it was from the in-game software OR from whatever torrent of it was around? Could be a hack or could be missing something in the actual patch that's flagging accounts?
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#114 Oct 12 2010 at 10:06 PM Rating: Decent
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With all of the "maybe you were hacked" theories floating around, I'm inclined to inquire if you downloaded the updates/patches whatever it was from the in-game software OR from whatever torrent of it was around? Could be a hack or could be missing something in the actual patch that's flagging accounts?


You know what, this is a 100% legitimate concern, and is the main reason why i spent the hour downloading the patch on day 1 proerly rather then from a torrent.
Though if they downloaded it recently, the lag really is there? is it?
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#115 Oct 12 2010 at 10:16 PM Rating: Decent
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The only way they would win the case is if the company in question banned them for no reason.
If say for instance, your an RMT, and you get cauvht after 1 month, and paid for 6, no way in **** youll get it back.
If they saved chat logs of you harrassing and verbaly abusing other players, and being warned by GMs to stop, and continuing to do it anyway...and banned you, once again, you are at fault, you will not be seeing any of that money back no matter how much you paid in advance.

But it does still protect from things such as wrongful punishment, but in any case where it will go to court, i guarentee you the company will have its bases covered. If there is ever a real issue where they "may" be in the wrong, then theyd quicker issue a refund then let it go further(also, taking it to court without first asking for a refund or going through the proper channels opens the doors for them to charge you for legal fees, which isnt a good thing either, and is actualy justified)


Oh really?

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=10&mid=1285763649139404088&page=1



Edited, Oct 13th 2010 1:17am by Lobivopis
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Final Fantasy XI 12-14-11 Update wrote:
Adjust the resolution of menus.
The main screen resolution for "FINAL FANTASY XI" is dependent on the "Overlay Graphics Resolution" setting.
If the Overlay Graphics Resolution is set higher than the Menu Resolution, menus will be automatically resized.


I thought of it first:

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=10&mid=130073657654872218#20
#116 Oct 12 2010 at 11:13 PM Rating: Good
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Leskura wrote:
With all of the "maybe you were hacked" theories floating around, I'm inclined to inquire if you downloaded the updates/patches whatever it was from the in-game software OR from whatever torrent of it was around? Could be a hack or could be missing something in the actual patch that's flagging accounts?


Very good question, would like to know that answer myself. Would explain if they all used a torrent to DL updates
#117 Oct 13 2010 at 2:43 AM Rating: Default
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I dont always play FFXIV but when I do I prefer to be banned for no reason without an explanation. Stay thirsty my friend...

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#118 Oct 15 2010 at 8:15 AM Rating: Decent
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Any update About that ?

My account it's again terminated.

Thanks
#119 Oct 22 2010 at 2:50 PM Rating: Decent
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I give you a clue:

Report your account as compromised. It looks like that some RMT guy hacked your account, deleted you char and used it for spamming. This goes for all the others who have been suspended/banned as well.

It really looks you guys either have malware on your computer OR you gave your accounts away for powerleveling (what is one of the most stupid things you can ever do).

#120 Oct 22 2010 at 2:56 PM Rating: Decent
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Torrent files are CRC checked against the torrent.

There is no way (AFAIK) to sneak in a file that is not part of the original torrent.

So if you used the torrent in the metainfo folder, there is no way they can put a hack or such inside.

If you got it from a third party then who knows whats in it.
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#121 Oct 22 2010 at 3:20 PM Rating: Decent
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I guess Darth Vader and Michael Jackson must have gotten the same suspension then? You would think this would be prominently displayed when you choose your name during character creation. :P


The Darth Vader Lalafell of Palamecia server was seen by me happily prancing around and slaughtering stuff. I'd hate to see the little ****** gone :(

To OP, please tell us when your ban is lifted and if they actually make you change your name or tell you the reason for your ban at all.
Sorry man, hope it turns out well in the end ;/

Offtopic: Now I will NEVER EVER AGAIN heal a noobie struggling with a mob :x I will let them die and wach their blood gush from their throat. But most of all I'll log in and stand still for hours being afraid I might do something wrong unknowingly :|
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