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#1 Oct 10 2010 at 5:57 AM Rating: Decent
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Not trying to be a dbag or anything,

But would you guys be defending this game if it didn't have "Final Fantasy" in the title?

So many of you are saying things like..."It will get better,you can't expect a game to be good at launch"..

Really, are you kidding me?
When you go to a resturant irl thats say, a month or 2 old, order something, and the server brings you out a plate with undercooked meat, and a pubic hair in the pasta. And a few fingernails in your drink. Do you say.."Well this resturants new,i t will get better". I personally would get up, flip the table over and leave and never come back, and make sure I tell everyone I know that the resturant is the worst in the world.

Seriously, if this is how you defend a piece of sh*tty software that cost 80 bucks, you must get walked allover. Accepting inferiority and mediocrity in every aspectof life.

Edited, Oct 10th 2010 5:29pm by KristoFurwalken
#2 Oct 10 2010 at 6:09 AM Rating: Good
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Most things you take part in and buy in life are inferior & mediocre. Nothing's really as amazing as people like to think. Likewise for things not being as bad as some say they are. Like George Carlin said, everything is ********* You just find the ******** you're comfortable with and stick with it.

I have enough fun with this game to enjoy it while awaiting changes that make it even better. There's really nothing to defend there...
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#3 Oct 10 2010 at 6:15 AM Rating: Good
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Not trying to be a dbag or anything,


You did well for not trying. Your example started to be a bit over exaggerated when you went past the undercooked meat.

Does the game have flaws, obviously so. I just don't know why everyone has to hate this game. Why is it that anyone who likes this game was obviously born with some mental deficiency and have their opinions instantly invalidated with "fanboi syndrome"?

Edited, Oct 10th 2010 8:15am by ThePacster
#4 Oct 10 2010 at 6:21 AM Rating: Default
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ThePacster wrote:
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Not trying to be a dbag or anything,


You did well for not trying. Your example started to be a bit over exaggerated when you went past the undercooked meat.

Does the game have flaws, obviously so. I just don't know why everyone has to hate this game. Why is it that anyone who likes this game was obviously born with some mental deficiency and have their opinions instantly invalidated with "fanboi syndrome"?

Edited, Oct 10th 2010 8:15am by ThePacster


Simply because most of the people defending it would have quit playing after about an hour if it wasn't called "Final Fantasy".You trying to say if this thing was called something like,,"Maple Story 2010" these ppl would be saying.."it's got a few flaws,but its still a good game"..(granted if it was called maple story 2010 no one would have bought it in the first place)
#5 Oct 10 2010 at 6:21 AM Rating: Excellent
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Did I buy the game because it was FF, yes (just being honest), but that was after I played the beta from alpha, and enjoyed the game more with each improvement they made.

I honestly like this game, and see the potential, from what they have discussed about adding, and from simply seeing the placeholders and areas that things can be added too. In my opinion, I could possibly enjoy this game more then FFXI (which I really enjoyed, just didnt have the time to get groups together for CoP style missions).

I have never played another MMO besides the 2, but really I have never really had an interest to.

So ya, if I am labeled a fanboy, then so be it, but I straight out enjoy this game, and the community I have joined in my LS. We have to work together as an LS to feed our need for items etc, but it works out really well.

Could there be improvements, sure, but from my understanding of MMO's, thats the nature of the beast. They will always be evolving, and improving/changing. So I am along for the ride, and have set my subscription to renew every 6 months.

On a lighter note: Why would you flip the table and make a huge scene just because of one bad meal. It happens lol, people get upset over everything nowadays, too much stress I say lol


Edited, Oct 10th 2010 8:25am by SharkOutofWater
#6 Oct 10 2010 at 6:25 AM Rating: Excellent
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Perhaps its just me personally, but the name "Final Fantasy" has no real significance to me. The only reason I played Final Fantasy 11 (which was my first Final Fantasy ever) is because of a trailer I saw with Summoner in it and I thought "ooo magic, looks fun." The game could be called anything for me. If the class system looks interesting enough, I'll give it a go. Although I haven't had a lot of time to play the game as of late, I've been able to enjoy logging on for an hour or two to do leve quests by myself or with a group of JP players. I'd like to think over time the game will improve, but if not its no sweat off my back.

It just really irks me that people are slamming this game relentlessly seemingly wanting it to fail when I'd like to think they really don't want it to, but can't fathom the possibility of the game improving.

Edited, Oct 10th 2010 8:27am by ThePacster
#7 Oct 10 2010 at 6:36 AM Rating: Good
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KristoFurwalken wrote:
Not trying to be a dbag or anything,

But would you guys be defending this game if it didn't have "Final Fantasy" in the title?

So many of you are saying things like..."It will get better,you can't expect a game to be good at launch"..

Really,are you kidding me?
When you go to a resturant irl thats say,a month or 2 old,order something,and the server brings you out a plate with undercooked meat,and a pubic hair in the pasta.And a few fingernails in your drink.Do you say.."Well this resturants new,it will get better".I personally would get up,flip the table over and leave and never come back,and make sure I tell everyone I know that the resturant is the worst in the world.

Seriously,if this is how you defend a piece of sh*tty software that cost 80 bucks,you must get walked allover.Accepting inferiority and mediocrity in every aspectof life.


I love Final Fantasy games and in the past i would even being blind grab a game and buy it if there was the SquareSoft or SquareEnix tag on it.

To answer your fanboy question, i would defend this game if.... it would actually be good. It's simple as that.
#8 Oct 10 2010 at 6:43 AM Rating: Default
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I don't want it to fail,I want it to be awesome.

Just don't really see it happening,When have we ever known SE to actually listen to gamer feedback and be quick to make changes.

I just don't understand the mentality of "It's only release,it will get better".
#9 Oct 10 2010 at 6:47 AM Rating: Excellent
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Well I certainly can't see the game getting worse, can you?

The way I see it every game has to start somewhere, some in worse scenarios than others, but they generally have no where to go but up with updates, bug fixes, new features, etc.

Edited, Oct 10th 2010 8:47am by ThePacster
#10 Oct 10 2010 at 6:49 AM Rating: Good
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Well just watch this. It's btw obvioulsy sponsored by this website.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ei0GxMOBztA


think about it. Somehow it makes me sad i paid so much money for this already.
#11 Oct 10 2010 at 7:01 AM Rating: Decent
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ThePacster wrote:
Well I certainly can't see the game getting worse, can you?

The way I see it every game has to start somewhere, some in worse scenarios than others, but they generally have no where to go but up with updates, bug fixes, new features, etc.

Edited, Oct 10th 2010 8:47am by ThePacster



This is true,we can only go up from here.Thats one way to view it I reckon.
#12 Oct 10 2010 at 7:08 AM Rating: Decent
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So many of you are saying things like..."It will get better,you can't expect a game to be good at launch"..


Well in reality, when WoW first came out it took more than a couple days to get to level cap. So while that game has gotten worse, this one can only get better. People screaming "content" are the same people who picked up their last MMO after one or more xpacs had already been released, so they have no idea what they are really crying about in regards to a new game.
#13 Oct 10 2010 at 7:10 AM Rating: Excellent
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Different strokes for different folks.

I love this game. No, i really do. And I do not understand why people are fixated on making players like me *hate* the game. There's enough games around to fit every taste. Why the constant bashing and punch in the face? It's just mean spirited.

There are other MMo's that i absolutely hate, yet I do not go to their boards to bash the fact that i think their game is crap in their faces. You say you dont want to be a d-bag but you name the thread "fanboy" question. I call your bluff.

You don't have to be a fanboy to like FFXIV. You just have to be the kind of player that enjoys that kind of game. Ever since Squaresoft became Square Enix, i have liked their games less and less and have always been able to point out when I dislike a game (such as FF12, which I didn't like at all). Does this mean that i *have* to hate ffxiv? I'm actually really glad that i'm loving it.

Does that mean I think the game is perfect? Of course not. Why must everything be so polarized. I can find issues with a game that i still love.

Honestly, I just don't get what's up with people wanting players that are having a good time, to hate this game. This is bullying, plain and simple.

I wonder when we, the players that are really enjoying FFXIV, will once again have a discussion forum where we'll be able to actually discuss gaming topics, and give honest suggestions on how to enhance the experience. I find myself browsing these forums less and less...

Believe it. Some people are just having a lot of fun playing ffxiv.

Edited, Oct 10th 2010 10:12am by InchKujata
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#14 Oct 10 2010 at 7:15 AM Rating: Good
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Ok, so a "fanboy" is someone who plays a game they enjoy and "defends" it by saying they enjoy it and have high hopes the issues get worked out on a forum dedicate to said game.

So what is the label for all these people who don't like the game, but continue to hang around those same forums to tell people that they are wrong in enjoying the game?
#15 Oct 10 2010 at 7:17 AM Rating: Decent
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Kanna has seen crappier games after they have be open for more then a year!

Edited, Oct 10th 2010 9:18am by KannaMatsui
#16 Oct 10 2010 at 7:17 AM Rating: Decent
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Vawn43 wrote:
Ok, so a "fanboy" is someone who plays a game they enjoy and "defends" it by saying they enjoy it and have high hopes the issues get worked out on a forum dedicate to said game.

So what is the label for all these people who don't like the game, but continue to hang around those same forums to tell people that they are wrong in enjoying the game?


Bully.
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#17 Oct 10 2010 at 7:29 AM Rating: Decent
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KristoFurwalken wrote:
ThePacster wrote:
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Not trying to be a dbag or anything,


You did well for not trying. Your example started to be a bit over exaggerated when you went past the undercooked meat.

Does the game have flaws, obviously so. I just don't know why everyone has to hate this game. Why is it that anyone who likes this game was obviously born with some mental deficiency and have their opinions instantly invalidated with "fanboi syndrome"?

Edited, Oct 10th 2010 8:15am by ThePacster


Simply because most of the people defending it would have quit playing after about an hour if it wasn't called "Final Fantasy".You trying to say if this thing was called something like,,"Maple Story 2010" these ppl would be saying.."it's got a few flaws,but its still a good game"..(granted if it was called maple story 2010 no one would have bought it in the first place)


How do you know I would quit within an hour if it didn't have the FF trademark name... are you psychic...GET OUT OF MY HEAD AHHHH!

Edited, Oct 10th 2010 9:32am by crazyorc
#18 Oct 10 2010 at 9:58 AM Rating: Decent
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I was thinking about what I would write while reading this thread, but Inchkujata said it perfectly.

Also Kannamatsui I agree :)
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