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#1 Oct 10 2010 at 9:00 PM Rating: Excellent
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I was under the impression that your armor is gimped if your way under the optimal level. So why do 90% of people use bronze haubergeon? or I see some people that are level 14 fighting in lvl 37 gear. Whats the point of this? Am i missing something?
#2 Oct 10 2010 at 9:01 PM Rating: Excellent
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Because it looks cool
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#3 Oct 10 2010 at 9:04 PM Rating: Decent
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my tests depict it is best to try use items around your rank, and so I do. Some people either dont realize this or simply dont care. Another thing I see a lot is people using gear that isn't favored to their class, which actually makes a HUGE difference.
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I remember when I heard that FFXIV changed your job based upon your weapons, I thought, "This is great: no more sword-warriors, staff-paladins, or rapier-dancers!"

But... looks like they still found a way to allow for bad decisions. XD
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#5 Oct 10 2010 at 9:08 PM Rating: Decent
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Some people either dont realize this or simply dont care


I'm thinking it's this. Only I'd guess that it's more the "don't realize" rather than "don't care." If you wear armor over well over your level, it is actually less effective than gear at your level. It also looses durability much faster than armor at your level. Think about it. It's the same way in real life.
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swisa wrote:
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Some people either dont realize this or simply dont care


I'm thinking it's this. Only I'd guess that it's more the "don't realize" rather than "don't care." If you wear armor over well over your level, it is actually less effective than gear at your level. It also looses durability much faster than armor at your level. Think about it. It's the same way in real life.



yes because i'm a level 15 taxi driver, and my level 28 driving boots constantly make me miss the break?
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#7 Oct 10 2010 at 9:17 PM Rating: Good
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RyderDecree wrote:
swisa wrote:
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Some people either dont realize this or simply dont care


I'm thinking it's this. Only I'd guess that it's more the "don't realize" rather than "don't care." If you wear armor over well over your level, it is actually less effective than gear at your level. It also looses durability much faster than armor at your level. Think about it. It's the same way in real life.



yes because i'm a level 15 taxi driver, and my level 28 driving boots constantly make me miss the break?


This would be a valid statement if being ANY job in FFXIV was as smooth and fun as being a taxi driver.
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swisa wrote:
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Some people either dont realize this or simply dont care


I'm thinking it's this. Only I'd guess that it's more the "don't realize" rather than "don't care." If you wear armor over well over your level, it is actually less effective than gear at your level. It also looses durability much faster than armor at your level. Think about it. It's the same way in real life.



yes because i'm a level 15 taxi driver, and my level 28 driving boots constantly make me miss the break?


genius.
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Except the bronze haubergeon has phenomenal scaling. Its about equal to a "proper" level armor at that armor's level. And its freaking indestructable. Been wearing mine since 16, im 20 now, its at 32000/38000. And I haven't repaired it once.

Edited, Oct 10th 2010 11:19pm by SudoNemesis
#10 Oct 10 2010 at 9:20 PM Rating: Good
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so basically SE made all armor for meelee under 27 worthless. No point in crafting it or making it..... LOL
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RyderDecree wrote:
swisa wrote:
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Some people either dont realize this or simply dont care


I'm thinking it's this. Only I'd guess that it's more the "don't realize" rather than "don't care." If you wear armor over well over your level, it is actually less effective than gear at your level. It also looses durability much faster than armor at your level. Think about it. It's the same way in real life.



yes because i'm a level 15 taxi driver, and my level 28 driving boots constantly make me miss the break?


I don't know what shoes have to do with missing your 'break'.
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Because it looks cool

Pretty much this. Also, Don't know/Don't care about the downsides. Low level gear is plain ugly, and looks are an important thing to most players. You'll almost never notice the difference either way, and if people want to deal with the massively increased durability loss, that's their problem.

As the game progresses, I imagine more people will start to use level/favor appropriate gear, but for now, everyone just wants to look nice.

The fact that almost everyone is just soloing now may also play a part. Your gear is not effecting others, so why care?
I'm wearing a Black Eyepatch on my Lalafel because I can. It's lvl.33, and will wear down really freaking fast, but that's my problem and no one else's.
I'd just not worry about what others are wearing until groups become a more common means of exping.

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so basically SE made all armor for meelee under 27 worthless. No point in crafting it or making it..... LOL

They probably expected us to actually wear the lower stuff, making it useful. It would make the most sense, but it's not what we did of course...
Might have been different if it all wasn't so **** ugly.

Edited, Oct 10th 2010 10:32pm by Uchitoru
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Uchitoru wrote:
lsykora wrote:
Because it looks cool

Pretty much this. Also, Don't know/Don't care about the downsides. Low level gear is plain ugly, and looks are an important thing to most players. You'll almost never notice the difference either way, and if people want to deal with the massively increased durability loss, that's their problem.


Also, I'd imagine that a lot of people are getting gear for their higher-rank jobs, and just using that higher-level gear when leveling their lower-ranked jobs, rather than maintaining rank-appropriate gear for every job they want to level, which can take a lot of precious inventory space if you're leveling several jobs of very different ranks.
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I'd wager it looking cool combined with the lack of knowledge on how everything works. I'm pretty sure a lot of people see a higher level armor and assume it's better than a lower level and since they can use it, it must be the best option.

The idea of being low level and allowed to run around in high level armor baffles me.
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RyderDecree wrote:
swisa wrote:
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Some people either dont realize this or simply dont care


I'm thinking it's this. Only I'd guess that it's more the "don't realize" rather than "don't care." If you wear armor over well over your level, it is actually less effective than gear at your level. It also looses durability much faster than armor at your level. Think about it. It's the same way in real life.



yes because i'm a level 15 taxi driver, and my level 28 driving boots constantly make me miss the break?


I don't know what shoes have to do with missing your 'break'.


and i don't know why a ring can give me a stat, but it does.
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#16 Oct 10 2010 at 10:09 PM Rating: Good
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Except the bronze haubergeon has phenomenal scaling. Its about equal to a "proper" level armor at that armor's level. And its freaking indestructable. Been wearing mine since 16, im 20 now, its at 32000/38000. And I haven't repaired it once.

Edited, Oct 10th 2010 11:19pm by SudoNemesis


This is exactly what I noticed and exactly why I keep right on wearing it. I've had to repair my appropriately ranked weapon, rings, and underwear a lot more often than my haubergeon and sollerets which have yet to drop under 80% over the five or so ranks I've had them for.

Besides, it looks badass...
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#17 Oct 10 2010 at 11:32 PM Rating: Good
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RyderDecree wrote:

and i don't know why a ring can give me a stat, but it does.


'Cause it's a magic ring, why the **** else!?
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Also, I'd imagine that a lot of people are getting gear for their higher-rank jobs, and just using that higher-level gear when leveling their lower-ranked jobs, rather than maintaining rank-appropriate gear for every job they want to level, which can take a lot of precious inventory space if you're leveling several jobs of very different ranks.


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I remember when I heard that FFXIV changed your job based upon your weapons, I thought, "This is great: no more sword-warriors, staff-paladins, or rapier-dancers!"

But... looks like they still found a way to allow for bad decisions. XD


Sword warriors and staff paladins? There were situationally appropriate uses for both..... Like, when you have a Ridill or when you are running stats in Dynamis. Rapier dancers? That's a new one - then only time I saw a dancer not using daggers was when she was off-handing a joytoy...


I guess my point is we talk about these things like they were so terrible, but they had their uses and was one of the things that I thought made FFXI so unique. You can use a lot of weapons in a game like WoW but they all felt pretty much the same and were a method of doing damage - it's not like it is in FFXI where your weapon choice can have a profound effect on your job role. That's been taken away from us in FFXIV and I for one am mourning that loss.

At the very least it's now caused us to have less room for future expansion of jobs - a lot of jobs in FFXI had overlapping weapons and now that weapons are locked to certain jobs I don't see how they will be able to expand without leaving out a few traditional FF favorites. It's sad.
#20 Oct 11 2010 at 2:19 AM Rating: Default
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every ones LEVEL not rank is at least lv20 by now.


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Sword warriors and staff paladins? There were situationally appropriate uses for both..... Like, when you have a Ridill or when you are running stats in Dynamis. Rapier dancers? That's a new one - then only time I saw a dancer not using daggers was when she was off-handing a joytoy...


well they have SWORD, not rapier like they have dagger & not knife. they can do what ever they want they did make the game. mmo's nothing is set in stone.

Edited, Oct 11th 2010 4:21am by mitmystria
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