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#52 Oct 26 2010 at 8:20 AM Rating: Good
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I'm glad the info I dug up was of at least some use. Since writing this I've noticed alot more crafters using Distilled Water or Boiled Eggs before they begin synthing. Again anyone feel free to update this info when more details come out or use it however you see fit, just give credit, blah, blah, blah.


Sadly, this has not helped the "real" cooks in the least. Since the data provided here lists all the foods under one type as having the exact same stats people are not willing to use the higher level, and thus naturally more pricey, foods. ****, distilled water isn't even a culinary synthesis. Well it's at least a start that people are even using food at all.
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Have you found effects for jellyfish umbrellas? Miqo'te seem to like them and I eat them all the time but don't know what they do. Judging by the rest of the seafood fare you've got listed I'd be willing to bet they add 3 dex and 3 hp, but it'd be awesome to see that confirmed.
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#54 Oct 26 2010 at 7:15 PM Rating: Decent
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Sir SamusKnight wrote:
I'm glad the info I dug up was of at least some use. Since writing this I've noticed alot more crafters using Distilled Water or Boiled Eggs before they begin synthing. Again anyone feel free to update this info when more details come out or use it however you see fit, just give credit, blah, blah, blah.

I haven't actually been using food myself but I probably should, it might help a little more when I craft...

Edited, Oct 26th 2010 3:01am by SamusKnight


If even all numeric values of the stats were off, knowing what type of stats they give goes a long way! I do appreciate to know what gives acc, eva, etc atleast.
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#55 Oct 27 2010 at 5:20 AM Rating: Excellent
Added to links in the sticky.
#56 Nov 04 2010 at 9:44 AM Rating: Decent
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Actually, I was thinking about this again the other day... why would they even include the stat effects in local files? That should be something coming from the server, no?


Data files like this are downloaded to your computer to speed up the game. The more queries made to the server, the slower the game will run.
#57 Nov 09 2010 at 9:00 PM Rating: Good
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I know this post was made a little while ago but this is the first time I have seen it... good job and rate up.

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Pixie Plums			R7	All	M		PIE+3 MP+3

Real mean don't eat Pixie Plums!
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#58 Nov 09 2010 at 11:49 PM Rating: Good
Osarion, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
Added to links in the sticky.


Yay I got something in the stickies!

Thickskin wrote:
I know this post was made a little while ago but this is the first time I have seen it... good job and rate up.

BTW:

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Pixie Plums			R7	All	M		PIE+3 MP+3

Real mean don't eat Pixie Plums!


According to SE we do!

Also about the scaling, it does scale with your rank, how much I wouldn't know. The stuff provided is probably the minimum stats it grants, as the items progress the amount of boost you get off these items is multiplied. Also what I meant by helping is it does help crafters and some other people. While I can't directly say it's because my my digging they do, I've noticed a large increase of people using food on my server than I did before. I'd like to think at least I contributed to it somehow. After we see the first big update in November I'm gonna see if I can't track down the tool I used to dig around again and see if anything might've changed. SE loves during ninja nerfs or changes on us so we won't know if the property of a food actually changes unless we actively dig around.

By the way, please stop sending me PMs asking what I used, I already stated in a different post that the tool is called "FFXIVTool". Site I got it from contains NSFW stuff (Hint: It's a DAT modder's site, meow meow.) so I can't actively post links here. Google it.

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#59 Aug 23 2011 at 1:52 AM Rating: Default
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Anyone know if they sill are updating this "Guide" ??
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#60 Aug 23 2011 at 6:10 AM Rating: Decent
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LauroS wrote:
Anyone know if they sill are updating this "Guide" ??


BURN THE NECROMANCER!
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LauroS wrote:
Anyone know if they sill are updating this "Guide" ??


I wouldn't think so but since SE released this post in which they stated they would revamp, make food actually worth while in patch 1.20 this might be looked into at that time.
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#62 Aug 23 2011 at 7:13 AM Rating: Good
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Louiscool wrote:
LauroS wrote:
Anyone know if they sill are updating this "Guide" ??


BURN THE NECROMANCER!

lol
/wave Lauro

I don't think someone will update this "Guide" with all the changes to how stats work and the actual food effects in the upcoming patches.

However. Here's some info taken from a post by Kinsey Kinz explaining the current food effects:

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http://www.ffxivtactics.com/showthread.php?455-How-to-achieve-tasty-delicious-divine-food-boosts

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Roughly the same information, but with foods listed and chart (I had chart on HD forums but could never figure out how to get it to post here) But seems like Ele had same info I had:

Greetings from Istory! My name is Ele Lespeera and I will be your chef this evening.

When I first started this game, I had my heart on Culinary; however, I soon noticed how much it wasn't a demand for food because no one new how food worked. You just couldnt eat food and get the benefits..there was some super secret formula o.O

Now us Culinarian's and other dedicated Crafters know about the effects of food and how wonderful it is. Yes, Culinarians from every server have done this everywhere, but I want to share this with you and keep doing so until you all know because now I shouldn't hear how "its useless" "nobody knows what to do with it"..blah blah blah...

I have tried to break it down as elementary as possible so please forgive the length if you feel its long(and I talk alot anyways sooo...)


What Is the Purpose of Food?

Food is used for boosting a variety of stats. You can use food for attribute boosts like DEX, VIT, MND, PIE,etc,etc.. or you can look for boosts of Control, Perception, Attack, HP/MP+,etc, etc...

When you use food you get +5 in what ever stat the food enhances. Yes, that doesn't sound special at all, but hold on to your silky Thor undies! I bring great news! If you use food properly, there is a bonus (Yes, a *☆BONUS☆*).

If you use food in the most proper way, you can receive up to about +7.4% of what the food enhances.

Have you ever seen someone eat something and they receive messages like "eats a ----- and finds it to be divine (delicious/tasty)"? Those are bonuses.

"Tastes divine" offers +7.4% to the stat
"Tastes delicious" offers +5.4% to the stat
"Tastes tasty" offers +3% to the stat

If you receive no message and only "well fed" means you are not receiving the bonus


How do I receive this bonus?

As you know, when you look up food on websites, you would see Optimal Rankrank #). Food has a favored optimal level just like equipment does. So you should pay attention to that as you SHOULD do for your equipment.

Also, to get the bonus for food, you have to utilize your points. Each raw food and dish has a favored rank, attribute, and element. You would need to apply the correct amount of points for those areas to receive the full bonus of the food you want to use.

I hear you guys already, "This means I dont have freedom for my points! D: "
Settle down, its ways to still get a bonus for your food.


What food favors what stats

DISH TYPE………………………… .STAT……ELEMENT
Meat Dish…………………………..STR…….FIRE
Stews………………………………STR…….EARTH
Soups………………………………PIE…….FIRE
Grain Dish………………………….VIT…….WIND
EggDish…………………………….VIT…….LIGHTNING
Vegetable Dish (Salad)……………….DEX…….EARTH
Vegetable Dish (Non-Salad)……………MND…….ICE
Seafood Dish (Cooked)………………..DEX…….LIGHTNING
Seafood Dish (Raw)…………………..INT…….WATER
Sweets……………………………..INT…….ICE
Drinks……………………………..MND…….WATER
Dairy………………………………PIE…….WIND

**Raw Foods**
STRENGTH - Meats
VITALITY - Grains, Mushrooms
DEXTERITY - Freshwater Fish, Saltwater Fish
INTELLIGENCE - Vegetables, Lamp Marimo
MIND - Eggs
PIETY - Fruits

The Chart
 
Rank Stat Element 
1     16    12 
5     19    15 
7     20    16 
10    25    20 
12    27    21 
13    29    22 
15    31    24 
17    34    27 
20    38    30 
22    41    32 
25    45    36 
27    49    37 
30    53    42 
32    56    44 
35    61    48 
37    63    51 
38    68    52 
40    70    54 
45    78    62 
50    87    70


This chart shows the optimal rank for food to the left, attribute stat in the middle, and the element stat to the right (obvious)


How Do I Use that information?

Let's do an example:

"I'm rank 36, but I'm having horrible luck with control on harder synthesis. I want to have better control! What can help me???"

Tuna Miq'abob: Optimal Rank 35
Accuracy: +5
Control: +5

From the list, you saw that cooked seafood dishes favors DEX and Lightning element.

From the chart, you saw that rank 35 food favors attributes stats of 61 and element of 48.

To get "tastes divine" :

BOTH attribute AND element stats have to be+/- 5 of the optimal points.

Ex: DEX 63 Lightning 48 will give you divine
Ex: DEX 66 Lightning 52 will give you divine
Ex: DEX 66 Lightning 53 will give you divine

To get "tastes delicious" :

EITHER the attribute OR the element have be within +/- 3 of the optimal points

Ex: DEX 63 Lightning 55 will give you delicious
Ex: DEX 103 Lightning 46 will give you delicious

To get "tastes tasty" :

EITHER the attribute OR the element have to be -/+ 4-5 of the optimal points.

Ex: DEX 66 Lightning 22 will give you tasty
Ex: DEX 97 Lightning 52 will give you tasty

Its THAT simple.


Closing Time

That really is all there is to it. Many cooks know this and ive noticed other crafters know this also because Ive seen the messages they get nowadays.

I want to make sure I keep spreading the word about food effects because a Cook has to make that bread (literally!)




special thanks to all cooks/crafters who helped with all this research about food and my favorite Chef Mirale Metis!

The Menu

DISCIPLES OF WAR

* ATTACK (Meat Dishes & Egg Dishes)
10 - Marmot Steak
10 - Boiled Egg
12 - Mole Loaf
15 - Rabbit Pie
15 - Mustard Eggs
20 - Jerked Beef
20 - Dodo Omelette
25 - Grilled Dodo
30 - Meat Miq'abob
32 - Roast Dodo
35 - Smoked Raptor
38 - Aldgoat Steak
40 - Shepherd's Pie
40 - Deviled Eggs
* DEFENSE (Grain Dish)
5 - Acorn Cookie
10 - Flatbread
15 - Dark Pretzel
20 - Honey Muffin
25 - La Noscean Toast
30 - Cornbread
35 - Walnut Bread
40 - Knight's Bread

* ACCURACY (Seafood Dish)
10 - Grilled Carp
13 - Braised Pipira
15 - Tree Toad Legs
20 - Boiled Crayfish
25 - Grilled Trout
26 - Boiled Bream
30 - Salmon Meuniere
32 - Lava Toad Legs
35 - Tuna Miq'abob
37 - Baked Sole
40 - Eel Pie
41 - Mugwort Carp
45 - Salt Cod Puffs
50 - Stuffed Cabbage
* EVASION (Seafood Dish)
12 - Salt Cod
22 - Raw Oyster



DISCIPLES OF MAGIC

* MAGIC POTENCY (Sweets)
7 - Ginger Cookie
10 - Bubble Chocolate
10 - Pearl Chocolate
12 - Raisins
14 - Heart Chocolate
16 - White Chocolate
17 - Apple Tart
17 - Princess Pudding
18 - Ore Fruitcake
18 - Sweet Rice Cake
22 - Dried Prune
27 - Blood Currant Tart
29 - Snowflake Peak
32 - Crumpet
34 - Starlight Log
37 - Pastry Fish
42 - Crowned Cake
* MAGIC DEFENSE(Stews)
15 - Ratatouille
25 - Mutton Stew
30 - Beef Stew
35 - Dzemael Gratin
40 - Bouillabaisse
50 - Orobon Stew

* MAGIC ACCURACY (Vegetable Dish)
13 - Spinach Saute
15 - Jack-o'-lantern
16 - Roasted Nopales
20 - Landtrap Salad
29 - Alligator Salad
30 - Parsnip Salad
30 - Forest Miq'abob
35 - Sauerkraut
36 - Stuffed Artichoke
45 - Tomato Pie
* MAGIC POINTS + ELEMENTAL RESISTANCE (Soups)
7 - Stone Soup
9 - Zoni
12 - Pea Soup
17 - Frumenty
22 - Cawl Cennin
27 - Lentils & Chestnuts
37 - Fish Soup



DISCIPLES OF THE HAND

* CRAFTSMANSHIP (Egg Dishes)
10 - Boiled Egg
15 - Mustard Eggs
20 - Dodo Omelette
40 - Deviled Eggs

* MAGIC CRAFTSMANSHIP (Drinks)
2 - Distilled Water
5 - Mineral Water
16 - Orange Juice
20 - Pineapple Juice
24 - Chamomile Tea
30 - Forest Miq'abob
32 - Apple Juice
38 - Mulled Tea
* CONTROL (Seafood Dish)
10 - Grilled Carp
13 - Braised Pipira
15 - Tree Toad Legs
20 - Boiled Crayfish
25 - Grilled Trout
26 - Boiled Bream
30 - Salmon Meuniere
32 - Lava Toad Legs
35 - Tuna Miq'abob
37 - Baked Sole
40 - Eel Pie
41 - Mugwort Carp
45 - Salt Cod Puffs
50 - Stuffed Cabbage



DISCIPLES OF THE LAND

* GATHERING (Vegetable Dish)
13 - Spinach Saute
15 - Jack-o'-lantern
16 - Roasted Nopales
36 - Stuffed Artichoke
45 - Tomato Pie
* OUTPUT (Stews)
15 - Ratatouille
25 - Mutton Stew
30 - Beef Stew
35 - Dzemael Gratin
40 - Bouillabaisse
50 - Orobon Stew
* PERCEPTION (Dairy Product)
10 - Cottage Cheese
15 - Aldgoat Milk
20 - Buffalo Milk
25 - Blue Cheese
STRENGTH - Meats
VITALITY - Grains, Mushrooms
DEXTERITY - Freshwater Fish, Saltwater Fish
INTELLIGENCE - Vegetables, Lamp Marimo
MIND - Eggs
PIETY - Fruits

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