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#1 Oct 12 2010 at 3:01 PM Rating: Decent
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I still have no idea what to do when I log in. I get the leves thing, and I get that I'm supposed to level up all my classes and swap skills but I have no idea where to go, I have no idea how to play together with others, I have no idea where to find monsters or where to find EXP camps so I wander around forever until I find a monster, then I try to kill it and I die.

My equipment sucks but I have no idea where to get new equipment because there's no AH.

It just gives me such a headache... how are you guys able to progress? I'm so confused.
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#2 Oct 12 2010 at 3:06 PM Rating: Excellent
Well, this is a brand new MMO. Have you ever played a game at it's launch (NA XI doesn't count as much). A lot of people are still learning the ropes. That's part of the fun of a new MMO; learning/discovering all the different things, exploring, etc etc. People have just barely started to write guides for things like EXP camps and the like.

I'd try finding a LS or start meeting people in general. Making connections is one of the best things you can do for yourself in an MMO.
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#3 Oct 12 2010 at 3:09 PM Rating: Excellent
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I can't help much because most people are where you're at too (not knowing where to level for one). But here is a link to a site that may help with obtaining new gear without looking through a hunfred retainers (just go to bazaar and select your server): http://ffxiv.yg.com/

Really the game is designed to be confusing and its early so most of the community is still trying to figure out the best places to evel and stuff. Monsters are color coded for difficulty. Red is incredibly tough, yellow very tough, green decent challenge, blue easy.

To play with others try staying near a crystal and ask if anyone wants to do leves together. Usualy someone is asking to do some there anyways (at least on my Besaid server).

Hopefully I was of some help to you lol.
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#4 Oct 12 2010 at 3:10 PM Rating: Decent
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The game is at best 75% finished when they released it. That is one of the main problem.

As for gear, I am in the same boat. I have money to buy it, and I get more luck /sh in cities and around camps than I do braving the market ward.

But it is launch, so I expect that it will get better from here (I hope).
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#5 Oct 12 2010 at 3:12 PM Rating: Good
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I still have no idea what to do when I log in. I get the leves thing, and I get that I'm supposed to level up all my classes and swap skills but I have no idea where to go, I have no idea how to play together with others, I have no idea where to find monsters or where to find EXP camps so I wander around forever until I find a monster, then I try to kill it and I die.

My equipment sucks but I have no idea where to get new equipment because there's no AH.

It just gives me such a headache... how are you guys able to progress? I'm so confused.


What I did was just explore around and get a feel for things. I never bothered with the Market Wards unless I was bored and just wanted to browse for general things. Try to go to the repair NPC and browse people's bazaars there, I have a much higher success rate of finding worth while than I do in the wards.

As for finding mobs, just walk around the camps of your general rank. Bentbranch/Black Brush/Bearded Rock for 1-10ish, Drybone/Emerald Moss/Skull Valley for 10-20ish, and Tranquil/Horizon/Bloodshore for 20-30ish. Now, this doesn't mean you can't go one camp higher at an earlier rank, it's just a general guidline of where you should go around those ranks.

My best suggestion is find a linkshell. They can make the whole difference between a nice night out doing 8-24 leves, and raging in frustration and quitting entirely.
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well I have been trying to level up around the correct camps, like going to Drybone I think it's called (the second Ul'dah) camp as a Gladiator Lv10, but most things are too difficult to solo, like Dodos, or they're too easy, or not plentiful enough...

I levelled up Pug for Second Wind, Marauder for Bloodbath, Conjurer for Cure/Stoneskin, I just don't know where to go. But I'm still kind of weak so I think my gear might be bad.
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Well,it sounds like you're doin as well as the majority of people.
You have a basic plan for your toon.You just need to flesh it out a bit.
There really aren't any "Standard Leveling Camps" that are universally accepted yet.

How bout picking up a few DoH and DoL jobs,or do some major exploring.
Have you been to the other cities.

When I got CON and THAU to level 8,I went exploring,visiting the other cities and picking
up all the Aetheryte Crystals and Nodes along the way. Yeah,it can be dangerous,but now I have the majority
of all the Aetherythe Crystals and Nodes.

Along the way I've seen some pretty cool places and seen some new mobs.Heck 2 days ago I discovered
my first beastmen stronghold (Fallen Soldiers),and last night I found a whole army of Qiqrin Mercenaries.

I also did my first Behest(i think thats it) today.Another taru and me were the only ones that
took part.Was fun.

These are things I do after grabbing and doing all the Battle and Local Leves I can.

I've found a few places where the mobs are plentiful,provide eh,OK SP/XP,and the drops allow
me to level several DoH at the same time.
On the way to and from those places I run across nodes that allow me to level some DoL too,lol.

So get out there man,lol.

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#8 Oct 12 2010 at 7:41 PM Rating: Default
I honestly don't understand why it is confusing. If you are able to read then you should have read through the tutorial that explained how everything works. You should have read the Adventurers Compendium at the Aetherite crystal and done your first main story line quest.

Yes, this game does not take your hand and give you missions at "Generic Town 01" and then lead you to "Generic Town 02" ad nauseam. I like that and i have not had any problems progressing or exploring the world.

On a side note, this is a MMORPG. That acronym right there should give you a hint that you want to be social and play with others. Find a Linkshell or talk to people. That should solve your armor problem as well.

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Edited, Oct 13th 2010 3:42am by KindjalFerrer
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#9 Oct 12 2010 at 8:08 PM Rating: Default
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If you can't figure out what to do in this game, maybe you should try an easier game, like space invaders, or frogger. Those are pretty self explanitory games and don't require too much of a thought process to get by on.

If you want to try and solve puzzles, figure out problems and general trouble shoot in a game, and you find these tings fun. I implore you to continue playing. After day 2 the game because straight forward and theres not a whole ton to figure out. Good luck.
#10 Oct 12 2010 at 8:16 PM Rating: Good
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You can't figure out how to play this game because it's not really a game yet. Don't listen to the die-hards. It's a giant beta sandbox.

I would go find another game to play for the time being. After they fix everything, and actually make it launch quality... it'll be an entirely different experience. Don't waste your time, money, and patience learning an unfinished game.
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KindjalFerrer, Tarutaru Murder Suspect wrote:
I honestly don't understand why it is confusing. If you are able to read then you should have read through the tutorial that explained how everything works. You should have read the Adventurers Compendium at the Aetherite crystal and done your first main story line quest.

Yes, this game does not take your hand and give you missions at "Generic Town 01" and then lead you to "Generic Town 02" ad nauseam. I like that and i have not had any problems progressing or exploring the world.

On a side note, this is a MMORPG. That acronym right there should give you a hint that you want to be social and play with others. Find a Linkshell or talk to people. That should solve your armor problem as well.

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Edited, Oct 13th 2010 3:42am by KindjalFerrer


At least this response would be somewhat helpful to the poster.

Dartagon wrote:
If you can't figure out what to do in this game, maybe you should try an easier game, like space invaders, or frogger. Those are pretty self explanitory games and don't require too much of a thought process to get by on.

If you want to try and solve puzzles, figure out problems and general trouble shoot in a game, and you find these tings fun. I implore you to continue playing. After day 2 the game because straight forward and theres not a whole ton to figure out. Good luck.


This post is all about "look at me, I'm smarter then you". Look not everyone will get this game right away. You're a real help to building the community. When someone ask for help either give it or don't bother Fing responding to the post. If it bothers you so much that someone isn't as "smart" as you and that someone doesn't get it right away, then just ignore their post.

Now to the original poster. Start out talking to NPC in your local town. What other game call qwest they call it leves in this game. What you do and where to go for these leves aren't spelled out in stone but there are guides coming out now for low level ones. Pick the class you want and search for the leves for that class and you should find some quides. You'll get SP/exp and gils(what is cash in FFXIV) when you complete these leves. From there you'll be able to buy gears or if you decide to choose crafting, make your own stuff.

As for the market. It is ,my opinion, screwed up right now. The have ward isntead of AH.You teleport to these ward at certain locations in the city your at. The ward has retainer you rent to sell your stuff. If you're looking to buy you have to go through a retainer one at a time in hopes you find what you are looking for. To sell or buy stuff you'll have to just randomly check people to see of they are selling, shout out while grinding and hope someone answer, have friends who play and you can trade, or visit the ward.

Hope that helps you some what and unlike the d*ck above, hope you give the game some chance.

Edited, Oct 13th 2010 1:01am by doubleax
#12 Oct 13 2010 at 4:31 AM Rating: Excellent
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If you can't figure out what to do in this game, maybe you should try an easier game, like space invaders, or frogger. Those are pretty self explanitory games and don't require too much of a thought process to get by on.


Seriously what the f*ck kind of response is this - it's beyond elitist , it's just stupid and rude. Much of the confusion people have this game is because of the several poor design decisions that are weighing this game down at the moment in it's current state. The confusion this game causes isn't from any clever "puzzles" or "challenges" in the game itself, it's from all the bizarre backwards design decisions such as lack of inventory-sorting, a mostly useless map that can't even help you find party members, a horrible chat and partying system, an incredibly convoluted menu-based UI with a lack of hotkeys for basic functions such as opening your bag,... err check out the other posts in the forum or check out the various reviews out there for the full story lol. I can tell you I was initially "confused" about where the option was to sort my inventory ... until I found out you couldn't lol.

My suggestion is just to try out all the different things and stick to the aspects of the game you enjoy for now, and avoid the cr*p that annoys or frustrates you - hopefully those things will get addressed and fixed in the near future. I enjoy the fighting/crafting/harvesting for the most part, so I've been sticking to that stuff and leveling up "horizontally" by trying out many different classes. However, stuff like the market ward is just the pinnacle of stupid game design in my opinion , so I almost avoid going in there completely. You can check out some sites like ffxivpro.com and ffxiv.yg.com for bazaar listings to try and find things you want - that depends on if the sellers actually post there. I myself *only* go in the market wards when I see something posted on those sites so I know exactly which ward to go to and which NPC to look for. Your confusion with the lack of an AH I can assure you is not unique - it's one of the biggest "WTF" reactions from the FFXIV community so far to the current state of the game.
Also, the current partying/chat system leaves a lot to be desired - I have had fun partying with people but it's mainly just been with "pick up" groups at camp sites for quests and grinding. As mentioned in the previous post, the camp sites are a good place to start to hopefully meet some helpful and friendly peeps.

There is a lot of good stuff in this game besides the obvious pretty graphics/sound such as the unique and versatile job/class system. A lot of stuff like travel options (airships,chocobo) are still locked currently as well as the option to obtain additional retainers (sort of like mules) to hold your stuff - and a lot of areas on the map are currently locked off as well. There's a potential for a great game here but unfortunately, it is currently buried under a big mess of bad design flaws. A lot of people will not find it worth their time/money to wait around for SE to hopefully address and fix these issues, and that is understandable there is nothing wrong with that. A lot of other people will find enough in the game to enjoy and keep them interested enough to stick with it as well - I find myself in this camp currently. Right now this game is like a sports team with awesome players that is sucking because of bad coaching and management - if you're a fan you're just hoping that changes are made where needed...

Edited, Oct 13th 2010 3:40am by zpanda
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#13 Oct 13 2010 at 7:09 AM Rating: Good
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You can't figure out how to play this game because it's not really a game yet. Don't listen to the die-hards. It's a giant beta sandbox.

I would go find another game to play for the time being. After they fix everything, and actually make it launch quality... it'll be an entirely different experience. Don't waste your time, money, and patience learning an unfinished game.
With all do respect, but don't listen to this kind of arguments. FFXIV is as it is. Like most people are saying, this game is far from perfect because the lack of stability and other stuff that doens't work as it should be. But even if SE fix this and you can buy and find things easier, it will still be the same game. Large area's, same kind of crafting system, same quest sytem, etc. With other words, SE wants you to explore and try things out by yourself. And why not?

If you are used to play games like WoW, Lotro and GW, then i can understand that you are a little bit confused about what to do. I had the same thing. In this case, you have to ask yourself do you like to explore and find things out by yourself? I my case, i did not mind and i still don't regret buying this game.

Sound maybe a little bit wierd, but the way i progress is the same way i play console RPG's. You have your mainstory, with you can do at lvl 1, lvl 10, etc. What i do in meanwhile is crafting, killing mobs, trying different classes, and doing leve/local quests. If i am done then i go back to the main story. But how to start and where to start is a little bit difficult to explane. I am pretty sure others can do that much better then me ;-)

This article provides some usefull information: http://ffxiv.zam.com/forum.html?game=268&mid=128648486240235500&page=1

Edited, Oct 13th 2010 9:31am by grazypanda
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#14 Oct 13 2010 at 7:56 AM Rating: Decent
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I felt the same was as the OP when I first loaded up the game. It has been about a week since that point and my experience has been good thus far. The game has a pretty steep learning curve. A few reccomendations.

1. Explore the other regions and cities. Make a point of trying to pick up the different warp points at the camps along the way. Just interact with the sparkly blue things and you will get a message that you have arrived at the camp. Until additional travel methods are implemented teleporting is going to be the fastest (but limited) form of travel.

2. Consult a map. If you are trying to find a specific vendor or NPC in a city, tab out to the web do a search on the name of the NPC or the city/region map. There are not a lot of tools in game providing this kind of information. This is useful for finding local leve NPCs, repair NPCs etc.

3. The ward system leaves a little to be desired in its current state. Somtimes you just need to buckle down to try and find a specific upgrade, but leveling takes long enough that it isnt something you will need to do too often. There is an online site people have mentioned http://ffxiv.yg.com/ that can be used as a source to find some items for sale on your server. Keep in mind it isnt updated instantly, but it is a starting point.

4. There are a few brief leveling guides on this site. I would recommend taking a look at them as a starting point for places to hunt. The fact that you are even reading these forums is a good sign that you will start getting the hang of things. There is a lot of good information in the forums to help you get acclimated to the game.

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