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#1 Oct 14 2010 at 4:41 AM Rating: Decent
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Hiya guys,


I'm not playing XIV yet. But I'm planning too, even with all it's errors. All it's faults. I might just give it a try anyway. I didn't play XI. I've done some mmo, but usually they are conciderd EASY. I'm looking for a new chalenge, and instead of rushing through the game for once I'd like to enjoy my way to the top.

but still, I was wondering if there is any sort of end-game? Raiding or what ever it's called.

Thanks for your reply!
#2 Oct 14 2010 at 6:01 AM Rating: Default
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There is none and nor should there be, its a brand new game and the goal atm is to level.

Why ask this if you havent even started? you know how long it takes to get to endgame levels? This stuff is added in expansions or patches later on, by the time you get there they should have some, if you last that long.

Oh and also FFXIV is easy and it's very basic just like the others, its just so horriblly done people fool themselves into thinking its hard. Have fun "playing" 14 though.

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#3 Oct 14 2010 at 6:40 AM Rating: Decent
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greda wrote:
I've done some mmo, but usually they are conciderd EASY. I'm looking for a new chalenge


How about entering yourself into a spelling bee?

Alright, I jest. I suppose it would matter most what your definition of challenge is. MMO's are not FPS games, so they don't require any type of twitch play. I personally find games to be more challenging, mostly in a mental state, when they don't hold your hand through everything and you get to figure it out along with the community.

I've not had my coffee yet, so unless I stop typing here I will ramble on forever.
#4 Oct 14 2010 at 6:58 AM Rating: Decent
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I wasn't really hoping for a reaction like this. Just a honest question, of a honest noob. I like end game. Blame me for it. The leveling part will be one of the biggest path I'll have to follow until I'm there, but a man can't seem to ask.

I'm sorry for taking your time.
#5 Oct 14 2010 at 7:06 AM Rating: Good
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greda wrote:
Hiya guys,


I'm not playing XIV yet. But I'm planning too, even with all it's errors. All it's faults. I might just give it a try anyway. I didn't play XI. I've done some mmo, but usually they are conciderd EASY. I'm looking for a new chalenge, and instead of rushing through the game for once I'd like to enjoy my way to the top.

but still, I was wondering if there is any sort of end-game? Raiding or what ever it's called.

Thanks for your reply!


There isn't any kind of endgame implemented at the moment, but SE left very clear that they are controling our leveling rates quite closely with the fatigue system; so no one's really there yet.
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#6 Oct 14 2010 at 7:18 AM Rating: Default
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MajidahSihaam wrote:
greda wrote:
Hiya guys,


I'm not playing XIV yet. But I'm planning too, even with all it's errors. All it's faults. I might just give it a try anyway. I didn't play XI. I've done some mmo, but usually they are conciderd EASY. I'm looking for a new chalenge, and instead of rushing through the game for once I'd like to enjoy my way to the top.

but still, I was wondering if there is any sort of end-game? Raiding or what ever it's called.

Thanks for your reply!


There isn't any kind of endgame implemented at the moment, but SE left very clear that they are controling our leveling rates quite closely with the fatigue system; so no one's really there yet.

http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com/rc/character/status?cicuid=1124548
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#8 Oct 14 2010 at 7:24 AM Rating: Decent
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JerryTheMule wrote:
don't listen to the haters there are 1000's of players in game who are actually enjoying themselves. EXPing in groups, and playing the game the way it should be played. Those people aren't here on the forums whining like little girls. Play and judge for yourself.

by "playing the game the way it should be played" you mean "have a tank hold aggro while healers spam non-damaging debuffs and buffs to get free levels"?
#9 Oct 14 2010 at 7:27 AM Rating: Default
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SudoNemesis wrote:
MajidahSihaam wrote:
greda wrote:
Hiya guys,


I'm not playing XIV yet. But I'm planning too, even with all it's errors. All it's faults. I might just give it a try anyway. I didn't play XI. I've done some mmo, but usually they are conciderd EASY. I'm looking for a new chalenge, and instead of rushing through the game for once I'd like to enjoy my way to the top.

but still, I was wondering if there is any sort of end-game? Raiding or what ever it's called.

Thanks for your reply!


There isn't any kind of endgame implemented at the moment, but SE left very clear that they are controling our leveling rates quite closely with the fatigue system; so no one's really there yet.

http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com/rc/character/status?cicuid=1124548
He gains 1-2 thaum ranks a day. He'll be 50 this week.


And how is fatigue not shooting out on this guy? Lifeless loser nontheless. >_>
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#11 Oct 14 2010 at 7:31 AM Rating: Default
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JerryTheMule wrote:
SudoNemesis wrote:
JerryTheMule wrote:
don't listen to the haters there are 1000's of players in game who are actually enjoying themselves. EXPing in groups, and playing the game the way it should be played. Those people aren't here on the forums whining like little girls. Play and judge for yourself.

by "playing the game the way it should be played" you mean "have a tank hold aggro while healers spam non-damaging debuffs and buffs to get free levels"?


nothing of the sort.. just exping on mobs that are great for a party of 5-6. my linkshell actually goes around playing instead of QQing all the time... and guess what.. we're having fun.. *GASP* i know right having fun in FFXIV.. not prossible the game is TERRRRRRIBLE WAHHHHHHHHHH!

games not even close to terrible.

Edited, Oct 14th 2010 9:30am by JerryTheMule

Lol... glad you're having fun pressing 1 once every 3 seconds for hours on end. I could set up a keyboard macro to play the entire game for me.
#12 Oct 14 2010 at 7:42 AM Rating: Excellent
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SudoNemesis wrote:
JerryTheMule wrote:
SudoNemesis wrote:
JerryTheMule wrote:
don't listen to the haters there are 1000's of players in game who are actually enjoying themselves. EXPing in groups, and playing the game the way it should be played. Those people aren't here on the forums whining like little girls. Play and judge for yourself.

by "playing the game the way it should be played" you mean "have a tank hold aggro while healers spam non-damaging debuffs and buffs to get free levels"?


nothing of the sort.. just exping on mobs that are great for a party of 5-6. my linkshell actually goes around playing instead of QQing all the time... and guess what.. we're having fun.. *GASP* i know right having fun in FFXIV.. not prossible the game is TERRRRRRIBLE WAHHHHHHHHHH!

games not even close to terrible.

Edited, Oct 14th 2010 9:30am by JerryTheMule

Lol... glad you're having fun pressing 1 once every 3 seconds for hours on end. I could set up a keyboard macro to play the entire game for me.


What did you get, to level 5 and quit man? Thats *********
Here's my usual plan against red mobs as marauder 18:

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- Foresight (Increases parrying, repeat every now and then).
- Punishing Barbs (Reflects damage 1=1, low duration).
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- Disorient x1 (Lowers evation, stackable to 3. Repeat disorent whenever the timer is up until max is reached).
- Light Swing to gain TP.
- Skull sunder (WS which sometimes deals DoT debuff) every time 500 TP is available.
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And Fracture (induces petrify, can only be used after parrying) whenever I parry.

How is that pressing 1, 2, 1, 2? Do everyone a favor and don't talk about what you don't know.
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#14 Oct 14 2010 at 7:44 AM Rating: Default
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I'm LNC 20. 7, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2 TAB, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, TAB. Set to repeat. Everything in the area dies. 7 = speed surge, 1 = heavy thrust, 2 = pierce.
#16 Oct 14 2010 at 7:48 AM Rating: Default
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JerryTheMule wrote:
SO QUIT THEN! Why do people hang on forums for a game they hate!? Get a life. Or do your fat little sausage fingers only work in your mommies basement?

Never have I said I hate FFXIV. it is what it is. Hating it would be pointless. Its a decent diversion until guild wars 2 comes out. But don't pretend its some kind of in-depth or difficult game, it can easily be botted with a simple keyboard macro.
#17 Oct 14 2010 at 7:50 AM Rating: Decent
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SudoNemesis wrote:
I'm LNC 20. 7, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2 TAB, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, TAB. Set to repeat. Everything in the area dies. 7 = speed surge, 1 = heavy thrust, 2 = pierce.


http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com/rc/character/status?cicuid=3051544

Sudo Nemesis, level 10 lancer. Oh, you're level 10? HAHA! What entitles you to have an opinion? You haven't even unlocked level 20 leves (which are unlocked at rank 13, and none of your jobs have reached that by the way). Go ahead and shut the **** up son.
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#18 Oct 14 2010 at 7:52 AM Rating: Default
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MajidahSihaam wrote:
SudoNemesis wrote:
I'm LNC 20. 7, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2 TAB, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, TAB. Set to repeat. Everything in the area dies. 7 = speed surge, 1 = heavy thrust, 2 = pierce.


http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com/rc/character/status?cicuid=3051544

Sudo Nemesis, level 10 lancer. Oh, you're level 10? HAHA! What entitles you to have an opinion? You haven't even unlocked level 20 leves (which are unlocked at rank 13, and none of your jobs have reached that by the way). Go ahead and shut the @#%^ up son.

Now look up Nemesis Klinge. People can have multiple characters.
#20 Oct 14 2010 at 7:58 AM Rating: Default
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JerryTheMule wrote:
SudoNemesis wrote:
JerryTheMule wrote:
SO QUIT THEN! Why do people hang on forums for a game they hate!? Get a life. Or do your fat little sausage fingers only work in your mommies basement?

Never have I said I hate FFXIV. it is what it is. Hating it would be pointless. Its a decent diversion until guild wars 2 comes out. But don't pretend its some kind of in-depth or difficult game, it can easily be botted with a simple keyboard macro.



Lol ok... What game can't be botted with "a simple keyboard macro"

I'm done with this site.. Congrats ZAM you're running off people who have used this site since FFXI by allowing all these prepubescent whiny skinny jeans wearing ****** to continue posting on your site.

WoW cant, unless you're a lock. And when WoW does something better than you, you know theres something wrong.
#21 Oct 14 2010 at 8:04 AM Rating: Decent
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SudoNemesis wrote:

Lol... glad you're having fun pressing 1 once every 3 seconds for hours on end. I could set up a keyboard macro to play the entire game for me.

You act as if this is different with any other game.

****, I've gotten 2 lv80 alts on WoW with nothing but Auto Attack while watching TV.

You shouldn't be playing MMO's if you think pressing a button once every second or so for hours on end is a tedious task, because all of them are like that. Now stop talking because you sound like a ******.

Edit: I think it's hilarious that you think WoW is any more complicated than this game. LOL.

Edited, Oct 14th 2010 10:05am by SoumaKyou
#22 Oct 14 2010 at 8:50 AM Rating: Decent
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How is that THM's rank as high as his physical?
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#23 Oct 14 2010 at 9:05 AM Rating: Good
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SudoNemesis wrote:
I'm LNC 20. 7, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2 TAB, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, TAB. Set to repeat. Everything in the area dies. 7 = speed surge, 1 = heavy thrust, 2 = pierce.

Oh, you mean like any other MMO? (Except for Feral DPS Druids on WoW. I swear I have to have more buttons on my KB to play Feral DPS Druids...)
Usually, when you are a mage, all you need is Fire something, Ice something, Something Wall or Freeze Something or Root Something. Rinse and repeat.
It's just like that on WoW, on Ragnarok, on AoC, on Warhammer...
#24 Oct 14 2010 at 9:20 AM Rating: Decent
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boys boys boys!


I had a simpel question, all I wanted was a simple anwser!

Not hate!
#25 Oct 14 2010 at 9:38 AM Rating: Decent
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games not even close to terrible.


Its the very definition of terrible, just cause a small minority including you like it does not mean it's not terrible for most people. You can find a small group of people that like ANYTHING if you try hard enough. You can be annoyed it's hated by the majority of people and every review is saying how crappy it is but it won't change the facts no matter how much people say POTENTIAL.

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No offence but it was kinda a silly question, there is already a woeful lack of content so why would there be endgame material when there is nobody or a small handful of players of a level to do anything that could be regarded as endgame, they don't put endgame content in the game till there are a good enough group to do it or it's wasted dev time. No MMO has endgame stuff when it's released.

Endgame stuff comes quite a long time after release, maybe a year or so later.

If all you want is a basic answer, then as was said no there isnt.
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#26 Oct 14 2010 at 9:52 AM Rating: Excellent
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No offence but it was kinda a silly question, there is already a woeful lack of content so why would there be endgame material when there is nobody or a small handful of players of a level to do anything that could be regarded as endgame, they don't put endgame content in the game till there are a good enough group to do it or it's wasted dev time. No MMO has endgame stuff when it's released.

Endgame stuff comes quite a long time after release, maybe a year or so later.



It maybe be a silly question to you because, judging by your answer, you are very familiar with the release of MMOs. But if the definition of a "silly question" was determined by those that already knew the answer, all questions could be considered silly.

Degrading someone for asking a question that they do not know the answer to is what's silly. You did provide a good answer for him, and you could have left it at that rather than insulting him in your first sentence.

Sorry I'm just annoyed that this thread was hijacked and made a pointless ******* contest of who can better bot/macro MMOs, rather than turning into a discussion of foreseeable end-game content which is what I was hoping to find... lock please!

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lol.
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#28 Oct 14 2010 at 10:01 AM Rating: Good
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How is that THM's rank as high as his physical?


because phys exp needed to level gets huge, and as long as you're getting high enough SP per kill, they'll stay pretty close.
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Its the very definition of terrible, just cause a small minority including you like it does not mean it's not terrible for most people. You can find a small group of people that like ANYTHING if you try hard enough. You can be annoyed it's hated by the majority of people and every review is saying how crappy it is but it won't change the facts no matter how much people say POTENTIAL.


So the 60K that were playing last night on the servers...most people playing thought it was terrible. I don't remember seeing a tab that asked me to rate= how I felt about the game as I was playing and enjoying it. I mean...on my server...very rarely did I see players running around shouting how terrible the game was. I did see very busy leve areas with people grouping up and seemed to be having fun. Mind you...alot of them did not have the best gear on because...well...you know the answer to that...but still, all was well.

Ya know...it kind of like that little story called "The Grinch who stole Christmas". Remember...when the Grinch stole all those toys and he thought that would kill Christmas...but to his surprise...the little people gathered in a circle and starting singing. It wasn't about the presents...it was about love they had for christmas. Well...for those who are sticking around...I think THATS whats happening. The love of FF. Even SE cant bring us down.

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#30 Oct 14 2010 at 10:33 AM Rating: Good
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Gonzi wrote:
How is that THM's rank as high as his physical?


because phys exp needed to level gets huge, and as long as you're getting high enough SP per kill, they'll stay pretty close.


Or you take advantage of the healing exploit before it was patched.

Saw that guys profile a few days ago, physcal level was only 19 yet class rank was 30 or so. It was posted in one of the "Why was I banned but this person wasn't" threads.
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djocapn wrote:
KujaKoF wrote:
Gonzi wrote:
How is that THM's rank as high as his physical?


because phys exp needed to level gets huge, and as long as you're getting high enough SP per kill, they'll stay pretty close.


Or you take advantage of the healing exploit before it was patched.

Saw that guys profile a few days ago, physcal level was only 19 yet class rank was 30 or so. It was posted in one of the "Why was I banned but this person wasn't" threads.



Oh I completely agree that person probably did use the exploit to get so far ahead before it was patched. Still, if you're leveling only one class, you're class rank will likely pass your physical level, if you're getting a good SP rate.
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I think what the OP is asking is what will be the goal (end game) in FFXIV, not at this very moment but what is the goal of FFXIV after 6months to a year from now when you've leveled your character?

People looking to buy or play a game will usualy ask this. Funny how they get flamed at a fan site for asking such a trivial question.

potential new player "whats the goal of the game?"
rabid fan boy "just play the game or get the **** out"
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60 thousand players? >_>

My server never breaks 2k ever and mostly hovers around the 1.2-1.3k. Unless I'm on the least populated server of all of them I can't see 60,000. Anyway even if thats right(which I doubt) its free to play now, even I play it sometimes and I hate it :/
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OK...I exaggerated..I don't have the exact numbers. 18 servers at aprox 2.5K each is still 45K at one time...give or take 15K. Point is...until the free month is up...we really don't know if the issues are going to drive away the core group of people who are playing and are willing to wait for SE to get their collective heads out of their butts and fix stuff. But terrible...that's in the eye of the beholder and shouldn't be tossed around without having data to support it. 15 bad reviews by 15 people is 15 people who think the game is terrible. The only review I know to be true is one I make myself.
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OK...I exaggerated..I don't have the exact numbers. 18 servers at aprox 2.5K each is still 45K at one time...give or take 15K. Point is...until the free month is up...we really don't know if the issues are going to drive away the core group of people who are playing and are willing to wait for SE to get their collective heads out of their butts and fix stuff. But terrible...that's in the eye of the beholder and shouldn't be tossed around without having data to support it. 15 bad reviews by 15 people is 15 people who think the game is terrible. The only review I know to be true is one I make myself.


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60 thousand players? >_>

My server never breaks 2k ever and mostly hovers around the 1.2-1.3k. Unless I'm on the least populated server of all of them I can't see 60,000. Anyway even if thats right(which I doubt) its free to play now, even I play it sometimes and I hate it :/


Was someone really bragging about 60k players during the free-to-play period of a new game like it is a good thing? Considering the 60k value was actually closer to 50k, those are terrible numbers.

FFXIV will be lucky to have 30k online at any given time once folks have to start paying a subscription fee. If that doesn't tell you all you need to know about how good/bad the game is then nothing will convince you.
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60 thousand players? >_>

My server never breaks 2k ever and mostly hovers around the 1.2-1.3k. Unless I'm on the least populated server of all of them I can't see 60,000. Anyway even if thats right(which I doubt) its free to play now, even I play it sometimes and I hate it :/


Was someone really bragging about 60k players during the free-to-play period of a new game like it is a good thing? Considering the 60k value was actually closer to 50k, those are terrible numbers.

FFXIV will be lucky to have 30k online at any given time once folks have to start paying a subscription fee. If that doesn't tell you all you need to know about how good/bad the game is then nothing will convince you.


So what you are saying is since the servers are not full when the majority of the NA players are on...that I am supposed to not like the game? If I play when the Japanese are on and the servers are more full...am I supposed to like it more? Maybe I can quit my job so I can play in the morning. Yea...there's an idea.

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#38 Oct 14 2010 at 11:53 AM Rating: Good
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Even better than the THM, and my personal hero:

http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com/rc/character/status?cicuid=1174189

And to reply to the topic, there really isn't any end game content in the data files yet, there isn't even too much midgame content yet. No Ishgard :-( But there will most likely be the midgame by PS3 release, and some kind of endgame 6 months after that.

Edited, Oct 14th 2010 1:54pm by TristanLight
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Simool wrote:
OK...I exaggerated..I don't have the exact numbers. 18 servers at aprox 2.5K each is still 45K at one time...give or take 15K. Point is...until the free month is up...we really don't know if the issues are going to drive away the core group of people who are playing and are willing to wait for SE to get their collective heads out of their butts and fix stuff. But terrible...that's in the eye of the beholder and shouldn't be tossed around without having data to support it. 15 bad reviews by 15 people is 15 people who think the game is terrible. The only review I know to be true is one I make myself.

You are delusional.
Just because there are people online doesnt mean they are having fun or enjoying themselves. Im online but im not being entertained. I feel like im ******* my time away.
Wasting hours shouting to sell my items and find new ones or crafters to help build mats.
Its tedious, repetitive and boring. I have to search through 50 bazaars to find someone with the same item as me so i know what items are worth. Common sense would dictate i just look it up on the auction house and bam, i know its worth.
The game is terrible in all aspects except for graphics and audio, and that can be confirmed by anyone who doesnt have their head up their asses.
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terrible...that's in the eye of the beholder and shouldn't be tossed around without having data to support it.

are you ******* insane!? the entire game is data to back up that description!

As well, its not 15 reviews by 15 different people. Gamespot and IGN reviews are conducted by a team of professionals in the industry who rate a game objectively. Something you obviously cannot do.
I want this game to be good, i really do, but, who the **** releases a half finished game!? WHO DOES THAT!?!?
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Simool wrote:
OK...I exaggerated..I don't have the exact numbers. 18 servers at aprox 2.5K each is still 45K at one time...give or take 15K. Point is...until the free month is up...we really don't know if the issues are going to drive away the core group of people who are playing and are willing to wait for SE to get their collective heads out of their butts and fix stuff. But terrible...that's in the eye of the beholder and shouldn't be tossed around without having data to support it. 15 bad reviews by 15 people is 15 people who think the game is terrible. The only review I know to be true is one I make myself.

You are delusional.
Just because there are people online doesnt mean they are having fun or enjoying themselves. Im online but im not being entertained. I feel like im ******* my time away.
Wasting hours shouting to sell my items and find new ones or crafters to help build mats.
Its tedious, repetitive and boring. I have to search through 50 bazaars to find someone with the same item as me so i know what items are worth. Common sense would dictate i just look it up on the auction house and bam, i know its worth.
The game is terrible in all aspects except for graphics and audio, and that can be confirmed by anyone who doesnt have their head up their asses.
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terrible...that's in the eye of the beholder and shouldn't be tossed around without having data to support it.

are you @#%^ing insane!? the entire game is data to back up that description!

As well, its not 15 reviews by 15 different people. Gamespot and IGN reviews are conducted by a team of professionals in the industry who rate a game objectively. Something you obviously cannot do.
I want this game to be good, i really do, but, who the @#%^ releases a half finished game!? WHO DOES THAT!?!?


Hey...if you don't like it, thats fine. not sure where the anger is coming from. I have not once posted trying to recruit people and say "cmon...it's great...jump on in". I am not delusional to the fact that the game is incomplete. I played beta...I knew what I was getting into. You must not have played beta and were surprised? If so...I'm very sorry. The forums were chuck full of problems that we knew would not be corrected in time for the 9/22 release. I'm guessing you are also new to the forums? The game is not terrible...the game is incomplete. It was built for the PS3 and they released it early for a money grab knowing they have the resources to weather the storm. They will probably take their sweet *** time fixing it too...but...I don't care. 13 bucks a month. So what. Its a game...nothing else. Heck...I'll probably go play some Fallout Vegas while I wait...but I won't turn my back on FF.

K...I'm done explaining this stupid point to death.
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#41 Oct 14 2010 at 2:30 PM Rating: Default
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[quote=SudoNemesis][quote=JerryTheMule] *GASP* i know right having fun in FFXIV.. not prossible the game is TERRRRRRIBLE WAHHHHHHHHHH!

games not even close to terrible.

Edited, Oct 14th 2010 9:30am by JerryTheMule


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#42 Oct 14 2010 at 3:21 PM Rating: Decent
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So the 60K that were playing last night on the servers


60 thousand players? >_>

My server never breaks 2k ever and mostly hovers around the 1.2-1.3k. Unless I'm on the least populated server of all of them I can't see 60,000. Anyway even if thats right(which I doubt) its free to play now, even I play it sometimes and I hate it :/


Was someone really bragging about 60k players during the free-to-play period of a new game like it is a good thing? Considering the 60k value was actually closer to 50k, those are terrible numbers.

FFXIV will be lucky to have 30k online at any given time once folks have to start paying a subscription fee. If that doesn't tell you all you need to know about how good/bad the game is then nothing will convince you.


So what you are saying is since the servers are not full when the majority of the NA players are on...that I am supposed to not like the game? If I play when the Japanese are on and the servers are more full...am I supposed to like it more? Maybe I can quit my job so I can play in the morning. Yea...there's an idea.



Sorry, but if you can't see how 18 servers times 1500 per server (under 30k total) players during NA prime time while the game is still free to play spells doom for your game, then I can't really say anything else to you.

Sure, you may like it, but nobody else does. How long do you think dev support will last for your game when the online count during NA prime time drops under 20k? How many fixes and new content is going to be added for a game that nobody else is playing? Do you think SE is going to keep paying devs to make content just for you and the other 20k people playing the game?
#43 Oct 14 2010 at 3:24 PM Rating: Excellent
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I dont understand how people can flame for what is effectively a matter of taste. Discussion on these forums this days pretty much follows this formula for every thread.

Person 1. I like Britney Spears - cant wait to listen to her music again.
Person 2. Brittney is rubbish, how can you like her.
Person 1. I like her music, I have fun listening to it.
Person 2. You are in denial you complete tool - she is rubbish
Person 1. But I like the poppy tunes, and I like the energetic dancing and shes hot
Person 2. She is a nasty *****, I hate her, and I am going to rate you down for liking her, and kill your parents
Person 1. OK, I understand yuo dont like her but why is it so important to you that I hate her as well
Person 2. Because she is rubbish and you just cant admit it.

and so on and so forth.

These forums have turned into a tools paradise where opinion is passed off as fact and the fact that someone is enjoying playing a video game is sufficient reason to scream at them.

Why do the haters have to ruin it for everyone else? Cant keep the immature kids off the internet i suppose.

(by the way - I hate Britney Spears)!

Edit - to correct a spelling mistake before the haters discard my comments for incorrect spelling.

Edited, Oct 14th 2010 5:25pm by HallieXIV
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#44 Oct 14 2010 at 3:35 PM Rating: Good
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Enscheff wrote:
Simool wrote:
Enscheff wrote:
preludes wrote:
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So the 60K that were playing last night on the servers


60 thousand players? >_>

My server never breaks 2k ever and mostly hovers around the 1.2-1.3k. Unless I'm on the least populated server of all of them I can't see 60,000. Anyway even if thats right(which I doubt) its free to play now, even I play it sometimes and I hate it :/


Was someone really bragging about 60k players during the free-to-play period of a new game like it is a good thing? Considering the 60k value was actually closer to 50k, those are terrible numbers.

FFXIV will be lucky to have 30k online at any given time once folks have to start paying a subscription fee. If that doesn't tell you all you need to know about how good/bad the game is then nothing will convince you.


So what you are saying is since the servers are not full when the majority of the NA players are on...that I am supposed to not like the game? If I play when the Japanese are on and the servers are more full...am I supposed to like it more? Maybe I can quit my job so I can play in the morning. Yea...there's an idea.



Sorry, but if you can't see how 18 servers times 1500 per server (under 30k total) players during NA prime time while the game is still free to play spells doom for your game, then I can't really say anything else to you.

Sure, you may like it, but nobody else does. How long do you think dev support will last for your game when the online count during NA prime time drops under 20k? How many fixes and new content is going to be added for a game that nobody else is playing? Do you think SE is going to keep paying devs to make content just for you and the other 20k people playing the game?


You are right. You have changed my mind. The game has no future. It won't last. There will be no further updates. They will cancel the PS3 release. All is lost.

There...now go away. you win.
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Britney Spears

(by the way - I hate Britney Spears)!


lol, horrible example :)
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#46 Oct 14 2010 at 3:41 PM Rating: Excellent
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Sure, you may like it, but nobody else does.

You fail at making any valid points. Your statement holds no merits and your argument is baseless. Stop talking to prevent yourself from sounding even more stupid.

Edited, Oct 14th 2010 5:42pm by SoumaKyou
#47 Oct 14 2010 at 3:46 PM Rating: Decent
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JamesX wrote:
HallieXIV wrote:
Britney Spears

(by the way - I hate Britney Spears)!


lol, horrible example :)


Kinda works.

Aforementioned Pop Princess does tend to polarise opinion. Just like FFXIV.......

I must say that certain elements of the haters diatribe have merit and I myself have not played much recently as I am waiting for more storage space and more sensible Wards. My point was more that the arguments have no point as they are bickering over a matter of personal taste.
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#48 Oct 14 2010 at 3:47 PM Rating: Decent
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SoumaKyou wrote:
Enscheff wrote:
Sure, you may like it, but nobody else does.

You fail at making any valid points. Your statement holds no merits and your argument is baseless. Stop talking to prevent yourself from sounding even more stupid.

Edited, Oct 14th 2010 5:42pm by SoumaKyou


I do - therefore you are wrong.

I have fun playing, but am frustrated with certain issues in game.
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#49 Oct 14 2010 at 4:16 PM Rating: Decent
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To be honest there is no end or middle game. It just a starter game with **** tons of crafting and thats all. You are forced to craft to get gear or repair gear. People say no get others to do repair buy from others. Well trying to buy from others in the game is like looking at paint dry on the wall. Well I think watching paint drying on a wall is more exciting then searching through the bazzar.
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