Forum Settings
       
« Previous 1 2
This Forum is Read Only

You look stupid in your bronze haubergeon!Follow

#1 Oct 14 2010 at 1:03 PM Rating: Decent
Scholar
***
1,707 posts
It was cool looking when it was unique. Now the entire server is full of level 15 gladiators proudly gimping themselves for the sake of fashion.

It's kind of funny because in FFXI if you didn't have "expensive" gear you were considered to be gimped. Now that FFXIV will allow you to equip gear above your level it has become apparent that it was never really about being gimped after all. It's really only about showing off your expensive gear.






#2 Oct 14 2010 at 1:11 PM Rating: Default
*
219 posts
I've realized this game isn't about "being good" it's about "looking good." The graphics are sooooo good!!!112 Form over function I suppose. So far, battle under rank 20 is really ez, and you would probably be fine with a naked toon anyway.

With that said, you don't go up to people who chose or choose not to RP and tell them "you're playing it wrong!!" right?

Edited, Oct 14th 2010 3:12pm by chopstx
____________________________

#3 Oct 14 2010 at 1:14 PM Rating: Excellent
**
268 posts
Who cares... lol
____________________________
Kula Vermillion - Mysidia

#4 Oct 14 2010 at 1:21 PM Rating: Good
Scholar
***
1,707 posts
I guess deep down I was hoping for more variety. People are going straight from their starting garbs, to whatever looks the coolest with no regard for stats. It was kind of rewarding in other games having that little extra to look forward to when you reached certain levels that allowed you to equip new gear.



#5 Oct 14 2010 at 1:26 PM Rating: Default
**
845 posts
Mithsavvy wrote:
It was cool looking when it was unique. Now the entire server is full of level 15 gladiators proudly gimping themselves for the sake of fashion.

It's kind of funny because in FFXI if you didn't have "expensive" gear you were considered to be gimped. Now that FFXIV will allow you to equip gear above your level it has become apparent that it was never really about being gimped after all. It's really only about showing off your expensive gear.








I think you should care less about what others wear in a video game.

Edited, Oct 14th 2010 3:26pm by UncleRuckusForLife
____________________________

#6 Oct 14 2010 at 1:26 PM Rating: Excellent
Guru
**
715 posts
The game is so new and everything is a free-for-all clusterf*ck. People are wearing anything and everything, trying to figure stuff out, testing this and that.

If they want to tote around their fancy new armor, so be it. If they aren't in a party with you, what does it matter?

The variety will come - give it time.



#7 Oct 14 2010 at 1:27 PM Rating: Excellent
***
3,825 posts
I look bad *** in my sheepskin subligar....








Ok fine, I really need pants
____________________________
FFXI:Sylph - Perrin 75 Hume THF; Retired (At least from my use any way)
EVE Online:ScraperX; Retired
WAR:IronClaw- Peryn SW;SkullThrone- Grymloc BO; Retired


#8 Oct 14 2010 at 1:27 PM Rating: Default
Scholar
***
3,599 posts
Why do you care? Is that level 15 gladiator ruining you HNM shell? The game is so easy it doesn't require level appropriate gear so don't go getting all "FFXI Elitist" on us already. Wait at least a month...
____________________________


#9 Oct 14 2010 at 1:29 PM Rating: Decent
*
219 posts
Mithsavvy wrote:
I guess deep down I was hoping for more variety. People are going straight from their starting garbs, to whatever looks the coolest with no regard for stats. It was kind of rewarding in other games having that little extra to look forward to when you reached certain levels that allowed you to equip new gear.



I totally agree. It was obvious to me from the start that everyone would be going for the exact same gear. However, I bet there are a lot of people out there who love the fact that they can wear whatever they want

Edited, Oct 14th 2010 3:31pm by chopstx
____________________________

#10 Oct 14 2010 at 1:29 PM Rating: Excellent
***
3,825 posts
Mithsavvy wrote:
It was kind of rewarding in other games having that little extra to look forward to when you reached certain levels that allowed you to equip new gear.


That I will agree with. It wouldn't hurt my feelings if they implemented a 10 or even 5 rank gap maximum for equipping gear.

*EDIT* Changed Level to Rank (that's gonna ***** me up for at least another year)

Edited, Oct 14th 2010 7:30pm by PerrinofSylph
____________________________
FFXI:Sylph - Perrin 75 Hume THF; Retired (At least from my use any way)
EVE Online:ScraperX; Retired
WAR:IronClaw- Peryn SW;SkullThrone- Grymloc BO; Retired


#11 Oct 14 2010 at 1:30 PM Rating: Excellent
Quote:
you would probably be fine with a naked toon anyway


And i think people should stop calling them toon's.I don't know why but every time i hear someone say toon it's like running their nails down a chalkboard to me.
____________________________

#12 Oct 14 2010 at 1:31 PM Rating: Good
**
415 posts
Bronze Haubergeon looks horrible anyway.
#13 Oct 14 2010 at 1:31 PM Rating: Default
*
219 posts
toon toon toon

Edited, Oct 14th 2010 3:32pm by chopstx
____________________________

#14 Oct 14 2010 at 1:33 PM Rating: Decent
Scholar
***
1,033 posts
Even with scaling the Haubergeon is better than a lot of the gear in the 15-20 bracket. So, it's not only a vanity thing, it's a good piece of armor.

I agree it looks like **** though.

Edited, Oct 14th 2010 3:34pm by BrokenFox
#15 Oct 14 2010 at 1:34 PM Rating: Decent
*
219 posts
btw, subligars on Lolafails look hilarious. I really wish I could take off my undershirt and run around in a subligar ONLY. Just like I do IRL.

Edited, Oct 14th 2010 3:35pm by chopstx
____________________________

#16 Oct 14 2010 at 1:37 PM Rating: Good
**
845 posts
Guys who wear skinny jeans are the ones who actually look stupid.
____________________________

#17 Oct 14 2010 at 1:37 PM Rating: Decent
21 posts
You do know this game just started.. bronze haubergeon is going to be very basic gear.. Like scale mail was in ffxi.. Have not found the good stuff yet. Or do you think you'll going to get a byakko haidate at rank 1 first week of play?
#18 Oct 14 2010 at 1:38 PM Rating: Decent
10 posts
#19 Oct 14 2010 at 1:40 PM Rating: Good
***
3,178 posts
The Bronze Chain Coif looks far worse.

Next up, Iron Haubergeons.

You are complaining that everyone playing the tank class is wearing the best available armor?

Uh, you don't see the conflict there?

Edit: Also, I would suggest finding a better adjective for your thread title. Calling people stupid is something I teach my 5-year olds not to do. It indicates a lack of the ability to express your thoughts clearly. Stupid is a subjective word, and doesn't really apply to looks, but rather actions.

Didn't you see Forest Gump?

I boo you thoroughly.

Edited, Oct 14th 2010 3:47pm by RufuSwho
#20 Oct 14 2010 at 1:41 PM Rating: Good
Scholar
*
220 posts
On my LS we call em "Haubergeon Heroes"
#21 Oct 14 2010 at 1:46 PM Rating: Decent
Avatar
***
3,005 posts
RufuSwho wrote:
The Bronze Chain Coif looks far worse.

Next up, Iron Haubergeons.

You are complaining that everyone playing the tank class is wearing the best available armor?

Uh, you don't see the conflict there?


Problem is, if you're not at least rank 27. the Haubergeon probably *isn't* the best available armor. Item scaling can be a *****, not to mention having the accelerated wear place you in damaged gear status every three steps.
____________________________
Chris Mattern
#22 Oct 14 2010 at 1:46 PM Rating: Excellent
Guru
**
715 posts
RufuSwho wrote:
The Bronze Chain Coif looks far worse.


I'm partial to the horrendous look of a Copper Barbut on my Taru, erm Lalafell.
#23 Oct 14 2010 at 1:48 PM Rating: Good
**
415 posts
I'm partial to my Sheepskin look at the moment. Looks better to me than the bronze, at least.

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/1275/ffxivgame20101010155656.jpg

Perhaps I'm just a stickler for all the detail in the cloth.

Edited, Oct 14th 2010 3:49pm by SoumaKyou
#24 Oct 14 2010 at 1:49 PM Rating: Default
Sage
**
447 posts
Mithsavvy wrote:
It was cool looking when it was unique. Now the entire server is full of level 15 gladiators proudly gimping themselves for the sake of fashion.

It's kind of funny because in FFXI if you didn't have "expensive" gear you were considered to be gimped. Now that FFXIV will allow you to equip gear above your level it has become apparent that it was never really about being gimped after all. It's really only about showing off your expensive gear.







Someone can't afford decent gear yet...
____________________________
Djigga, please. Highland Hyurs can't jump.

#25 Oct 14 2010 at 1:55 PM Rating: Excellent
***
1,636 posts
I think alot of the problem is that the other gear sets are harder to make, which is why we don't see much of them at all. Crafters seem to really just be selling hempen/cotton cowls, Sheepskin/dodo harness stuff, and haubergeons. I know for lancers, the Haubergeon is practically the only LNC suited armor thats easy to find.
____________________________


#26 Oct 14 2010 at 1:56 PM Rating: Good
**
441 posts
remember when there were 500 ppl wearing scorpion harness, in ffxi, or vermy, or Haubergeon, or Hauberk. point is there nothing you can do about it. once one person start wearing something another will follow. its just human nature.
#27Mithsavvy, Posted: Oct 14 2010 at 1:58 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Thanks for the suggestion, but I specifically chose to go with 'stupid' for reasons that are not obvious to the people that I expected to respond to this thread. Congrats.
#28 Oct 14 2010 at 2:08 PM Rating: Good
*
192 posts
ill get a bronze hauby when im close to that leve...which will be a while. til then, i quite like the look of my hemp tabard, kecks and turban.
____________________________
FFXIV
Aeneas Owen / Trabia / Ul'dah / 18+ LNC
FFXI
Aeneas / Leviathan / Bastok / 75 DRG, WAR
#29 Oct 14 2010 at 2:10 PM Rating: Decent
**
589 posts
Quote:
RufuSwho wrote:
The Bronze Chain Coif looks far worse.

Next up, Iron Haubergeons.

You are complaining that everyone playing the tank class is wearing the best available armor?

Uh, you don't see the conflict there?

Problem is, if you're not at least rank 27. the Haubergeon probably *isn't* the best available armor. Item scaling can be a *****, not to mention having the accelerated wear place you in damaged gear status every three steps.


so far It has not loss durability nearly as fast as all the OTHER stuff I've been wearing and it give me more Defense then all the other level apporiate gear I have. I wasnt going to get one, now that I have it... /meh its going to stay

#2 the price is droping, you will see them from 120k to 60k and in all colors now
#30 Oct 14 2010 at 2:23 PM Rating: Excellent
Mistress of Gardening
Avatar
*****
14,661 posts
You know what I look stupid in? Hempen Tights. I looked up what I could make from Hemp for myself and then I put them on. It looked like I took my pants off instead.
#31 Oct 14 2010 at 2:26 PM Rating: Excellent
*
106 posts
I think SE should remove the "optimal rank/class" and put in "required rank/class" like almost all other games. Sure, I like the idea that you can wear whatever the **** you want whenever you want to, but that comes at the expense of any sense of progression. I can't be alone when I say that I derived a great deal of enjoyment from leveling up and finally being able to equip that new shiny piece of armor or weapon.

In FFXIV that feeling of accomplishment is lost when you can wear rank 50 gear at rank 1.
#32 Oct 14 2010 at 2:29 PM Rating: Good
Scholar
Avatar
***
1,235 posts
Jeebus OP, what the **** are you trying to do?
Do you have any idea how much money I make providing repairs to the Hauby wearing sheep?
Hint: A lot!

Stop trying to ***** up a good thing.
They're happy wearing them, I'm happy repairing them every 30 minutes.

(On a personal note- I'm not sure why everyone loves them, I think they look like Santa's battle gear. Like maybe what he changes into before delivering the presents to Compton.)

Edited, Oct 14th 2010 4:33pm by Restyoneck
____________________________


"Don't take it personally man, white knights would eat a can of **** if the label said SE on it. If anyone dared mention that it was not a good product, they'd just argue if someone can't appreciate the subtle nuances in the ****, they should just go back to eating lolrealfood, cuz the devs prolly know more about canning food than they do."
#33 Oct 14 2010 at 2:30 PM Rating: Excellent
40 posts
The only thing I've noticed that's odd is a lot of people crafting in haubergeons.

I think the bone scale mail looks awesome. Not enough people are rocking that and it's only a rank 14 armor.
____________________________
FFXIV - Rabanastre - Fisherman
FFXI - Leviathan - 75 Beastmaster /37 NIN/40 THF/40 BLU
#34 Oct 14 2010 at 2:31 PM Rating: Good
**
548 posts
I'd rather see people wear cool looking gear that does nothing for them then completely inappropriate gear.

Two nights ago I duo'd with a lvl 17 GLA that was rocking a Cloth Tunic and a lvl 1 sword. I asked where his real gear was, he said he was saving up for a sword he wanted that was 450,000 gil.

We were duoing sheep and I said to myself "I wonder how important gear really is at lowbie levels". After he got one shot on the sheeps push back move, I answered my own question, blacklisted him, and moved on with my life.

____________________________
MUTED
#35 Oct 14 2010 at 2:32 PM Rating: Good
**
415 posts
Redscare wrote:
I think SE should remove the "optimal rank/class" and put in "required rank/class" like almost all other games. Sure, I like the idea that you can wear whatever the **** you want whenever you want to, but that comes at the expense of any sense of progression. I can't be alone when I say that I derived a great deal of enjoyment from leveling up and finally being able to equip that new shiny piece of armor or weapon.

In FFXIV that feeling of accomplishment is lost when you can wear rank 50 gear at rank 1.

Not lost on those of us who actually have some sense and only wear the appropriate armor.

I especially like the sense of awesome I get when I finally craft something that I can wear, and is better than what I'm already wearing. Like my Sheepskin harness, pants, boots, and gloves. Made those all myself from farming Sheep at a lower level. Now I'm upgrading to Dodos soon, which I've been farming since R12, and will be making Dodo armor for my 20's.

Feels a lot cooler wearing those than wearing some random gear that a mob magically drops.
#36 Oct 14 2010 at 2:39 PM Rating: Default
*
219 posts
Pikko wrote:
You know what I look stupid in? Hempen Tights. I looked up what I could make from Hemp for myself and then I put them on. It looked like I took my pants off instead.



this is...so true.
____________________________

#37 Oct 14 2010 at 2:44 PM Rating: Decent
Scholar
***
1,707 posts
volta1 wrote:
Mithsavvy wrote:
It was cool looking when it was unique. Now the entire server is full of level 15 gladiators proudly gimping themselves for the sake of fashion.

It's kind of funny because in FFXI if you didn't have "expensive" gear you were considered to be gimped. Now that FFXIV will allow you to equip gear above your level it has become apparent that it was never really about being gimped after all. It's really only about showing off your expensive gear.


Someone can't afford decent gear yet...


Trust me, there is no one in FFXIV that can't afford good gear. You seem to be lost on the fact that there is nothing to do in this game other than quests that reward gil. Even if I equipped the most expensive possible items in every slot (regardles of effectiveness at my current rank) it would only cost me around 1 to 1.5 mil.

#38 Oct 14 2010 at 2:45 PM Rating: Good
Scholar
***
2,742 posts
Maybe it is a melee job thing... all the crafters I know really care about their gear's stats.
____________________________
FFXIV: Karamethien Seraphus (Blog)

FFXI: Karamethien
Still a Seraph Samurai Wanna Be
Fishing AF - Complete, SAM AF - Complete, RNG Af - Complete, RDM AF - 1/6
#39 Oct 14 2010 at 2:48 PM Rating: Good
***
3,178 posts
Mithsavvy wrote:
Thanks for the suggestion, but I specifically chose to go with 'stupid' for reasons that are not obvious to the people that I expected to respond to this thread. Congrats.

And the BH is not the best gear for a Rank 15 GLD by far. Simple math isn't even required to reach this conclusion.


Reseaons that are not obvious? There are mutliple reasons? Congrats? For what?

Wearing gear over your level still gives a slight increase to defense. And defense will increases with every rank you gain. Unlike Rank 15 gear that will stay the same as you progress.

You are envious of them, I can tell. AND I am a better troll than you. Don't walk across my bridge or I will gobble you up!


Edited, Oct 14th 2010 4:49pm by RufuSwho
#40 Oct 14 2010 at 2:56 PM Rating: Good
Scholar
**
742 posts
Quote:
I think alot of the problem is that the other gear sets are harder to make, which is why we don't see much of them at all. Crafters seem to really just be selling hempen/cotton cowls, Sheepskin/dodo harness stuff, and haubergeons. I know for lancers, the Haubergeon is practically the only LNC suited armor thats easy to find.


This. The Scale line of armor looks better and is usable at earlier levels, but is a pain to craft. Bone scale mail requires around 10-15 tanner sub and requires dyed sheep leather; the bronze scale mail was only recently "discovered" and it requires a 25 armorsmith with at least a 20 tanner subcraft to make them easily and requires 2 different dyed buffalo leathers. With the early lack of leather dyes for each tier combined with the high level of a subcraft to create successfully, these armors are just that much harder to make than a bronze haub, which if you wanted you could buy every ingredient to make it from a vendor.

I currently am just wearing chainmail on my 14 gladiator until around 22ish, when the Bronze Haub surpasses the Sentinel's Chainmail in effectiveness. I do admit to using a Bronze Scutum over a Bronze Hoplon/Pelta because the scutum is so much cheaper to repair since it requires only 1x Bronze square as opposed to the 1x Bronze plate for the hoplon/scutum, and I can repair it myself, which is why I am avoiding the wooden line of shields.
____________________________
Drake Wulfric - Selbina Server
#41 Oct 14 2010 at 3:07 PM Rating: Good
Scholar
***
1,707 posts
Yea, I think I'm trolling if it means what I think it means (posting something that I assume will get a lot of negative responses?).

Here's why I made this thread....

For example... I group up and a similarly ranked GLD is in my party. I'm wearing the best level-appropriate gear that is available even going so far as to craft my own shield and helm that I was unable to find in a bazaar. The other GLD is wearing several lvl 27 pieces of bronze gear including the haubergeon. We are all strangers, but with no hesitation he is annointed the "main tank" or whatever. A couple of people ask about his gear, giving a couple of ooohs and aaahs at how much it cost and how cool it looks and all that.

So we proceed to do some quests and he continously gets crushed and I take over until he's recovers and runs back to our party, where he then proceeds to get crushed again. Rinse and repeat for over an hour.

At no point did anyone ever consider that he might be underequipped. Why does it matter to me? It's not that its a huge deal, it is just mildly annoying that you can go through the trouble of finding the best new pieces of gear every few levels in order to keep your character performing as good as possible, yet get passed over for some cheap glitz.

Maybe I just need to go buy a full set of bright, shiny crap gear and macro in my real armor just before the battle begins.



#42 Oct 14 2010 at 3:12 PM Rating: Decent
Scholar
**
626 posts
wanna know what looks really stupid? a completely all "bronze" (though its an uglier variation of bronze) mesh outfit WITH A RANDOM SKIRT... cuz you know, bronze isnt heavy and needs a skirt made out of it too.

ps. i thought the bronze haubergeon was fuggen ugly the fist time i saw it.
____________________________

#43 Oct 14 2010 at 3:12 PM Rating: Good
**
800 posts
Just give it time. No one is used to a system that lets you equip anything at any level. Eventually people will start to realize equipping class and rank appropriate gear is more effective than high rank gear. Especially when stats other than defense are involved.
#44 Oct 14 2010 at 3:14 PM Rating: Good
Scholar
**
259 posts
Bronze hauby is super ugly. Its even worse when wearing a belt, kinda like wearing underpants on the outside.

Bronze Scale Mail is where its at.
#45 Oct 14 2010 at 3:16 PM Rating: Excellent
***
1,673 posts
I rocked the hempen tights for a while. I just recently started getting gear slightly over my rank because I know I will "grow" into it.
#46 Oct 14 2010 at 3:19 PM Rating: Decent
28 posts
I'm guilty of wearing it way ahead of optimal rank. It is a defense upgrade slightly, and the armor is very durable and easy to repair as an armorer. It's not my fault SE decided to require red ochre buffalo garbage on the rank 19 bronze scale mail. I don't think anyone on my server has it yet. Either that or the leather-workers are being stingy (big surprise there). Bone scale mail is not optimal for GLDs either. Dodoskin harness is the only other viable option.

I don't get why bronze hauby sells for over 100k though. Should be 50k tops, mainly because of all the earth shards/crystals it takes.
#47 Oct 14 2010 at 3:24 PM Rating: Good
*
219 posts
blackjacktwentyone wrote:
I'm guilty of wearing it way ahead of optimal rank. It is a defense upgrade slightly, and the armor is very durable and easy to repair as an armorer. It's not my fault SE decided to require red ochre buffalo garbage on the rank 19 bronze scale mail. I don't think anyone on my server has it yet. Either that or the leather-workers are being stingy (big surprise there). Bone scale mail is not optimal for GLDs either. Dodoskin harness is the only other viable option.

I don't get why bronze hauby sells for over 100k though. Should be 50k tops, mainly because of all the earth shards/crystals it takes.


How much defense and evasion do you end up getting from the hauby at your rank?
____________________________

#48 Oct 14 2010 at 3:27 PM Rating: Decent
Scholar
**
259 posts
Reason it costs more than 50k is that it takes forever to make. Crazy number of synths you have to do to make it.
#49 Oct 14 2010 at 3:28 PM Rating: Good
***
3,178 posts
Mithsavvy wrote:
Yea, I think I'm trolling if it means what I think it means (posting something that I assume will get a lot of negative responses?).

Here's why I made this thread....

For example... I group up and a similarly ranked GLD is in my party. I'm wearing the best level-appropriate gear that is available even going so far as to craft my own shield and helm that I was unable to find in a bazaar. The other GLD is wearing several lvl 27 pieces of bronze gear including the haubergeon. We are all strangers, but with no hesitation he is annointed the "main tank" or whatever. A couple of people ask about his gear, giving a couple of ooohs and aaahs at how much it cost and how cool it looks and all that.

So we proceed to do some quests and he continously gets crushed and I take over until he's recovers and runs back to our party, where he then proceeds to get crushed again. Rinse and repeat for over an hour.

At no point did anyone ever consider that he might be underequipped. Why does it matter to me? It's not that its a huge deal, it is just mildly annoying that you can go through the trouble of finding the best new pieces of gear every few levels in order to keep your character performing as good as possible, yet get passed over for some cheap glitz.

Maybe I just need to go buy a full set of bright, shiny crap gear and macro in my real armor just before the battle begins.


I see. That's reasonable. I would be very interested to see what your actual comparitve defense values were. From what I've seen, you get a tiny bit of (I saw +1) bonus defense for wearing higher level gear than your Rank. If you actually preformed better in your Rank specific gear, than I can see how that would be irritating. It makes me wonder if the defense+ is somehow misleading.

Would be nice to have had this reasoning in the OP. It does help to explain the point of the thread.

Hempen Tights, ugh. Give me Cotton Breeches anyday.
#50 Oct 14 2010 at 3:29 PM Rating: Default
**
415 posts
Mithsavvy wrote:

At no point did anyone ever consider that he might be underequipped. Why does it matter to me? It's not that its a huge deal, it is just mildly annoying that you can go through the trouble of finding the best new pieces of gear every few levels in order to keep your character performing as good as possible, yet get passed over for some cheap glitz.

Who cares? It's like that in other games too.
#51 Oct 14 2010 at 3:43 PM Rating: Good
As long as they insist on throwing tights at me I'm wearing boots, I don't care what the stats are.
« Previous 1 2
This forum is read only
This Forum is Read Only!
Recent Visitors: 18 All times are in CST
Anonymous Guests (18)