Thanks for the congrats, lol, I understand about having a game finished before it's shipped, (this is my lat point by the way, have to go to school in a bit) but at the same respect, what game has been finished that you play online the day its shipped. Our society wants everything now and so video game companies have had to ship games due to deadlines and address the problems as they come up. It's unfortunately the way the industry is now because of the internet and how much easier it is to fix a progress and let us test it till it's at its full potential which will never happen with an online game. No matter how many expansions a game has, it will never be complete if it's online. Thats why they drop ship it and say the game works but we can improve it, but hey, we met all of our deadlines and we have a functional game as in mechanics, UI is a different story and that's another animal, but i'm sure we wont be disapointed if we stick around. FFxI was the most challenging mmo I have played so far next to eq1, so I am waiting till the game gets to that point and i See it's potential. This game is limitless with character combo's and stats. You can literally make any character you have ever wanted, it's revolutionary to the mmo community and one of the only mainstream games to do it. Maybe i'm biased, but I have played every mmo out with respect to eve and SWG, and it's been a pretty good launch as far as sqaure's response time and functionality of the game. Going to school now guys, thanks for the feedback on my posts as well as the market wards, if we make a decent amount of valid feedback square will listen, i can gurauntee that
I disagree. I understand that people want their cake and they want it now, but this game wasn't pushed to retail by the community; investors and yearly financial statements pushed this game to release. Game goes live on Sept. 30th and SE's fiscal year begins on Oct. 1st, think that's coincidence?
On topic though, I tried to find something in the wards last nite and it was a total disaster. I did find some nifty items while browsing so I didn't leave empty handed, but I certainly didn't find what I was looking for. I haven't had a chance to play with the new patch but I'm praying that it will help the issue.
This is true, but he's right. It's because people want their game right now. It's a two way street. People don't want to have to wait. They want to play it now. Corporations want to maximize their profits, and they need to respond to customer desires to do that, which means pushing out games before they are fully complete.
What we ended up getting as a result of these two things is mmos being released with a lot of issues. That's how our soceity in this particular aspect has developed.
I've done a fair bit of game design as a hobbyist and he's right about a lot of what he says, although I have to say, when people personally know the people they're dealing with, it makes a big difference in how they voice their concerns than when they're dealing with a faceless corporation. History has shown us that SE is one of the more faceless of the MMO making corps, though it seems they're doing better with this title than FFXI.
The reality is, we can't have our cake and eat it too, as much as we might want to. That being said, it still doesn't change the fact that things in the game right now can be very frusterating for some people. I do agree that the launch has not been overly worse than any other big title launch in the past, however the MMO community has developed since then, and expectations are higher now, and reviews and complaints are reflecting that. Depending on how things pan out, this may be a pivotal point in encouraging other companies to up their game on releasing new MMOs, without so many bugs and problems. However people are as people are, and though such a thing would definitely reduce complaints and bad reviews, it wouldn't eliminate them. I've already stated why, the MMO community will develop and expectations will continue to rise. So instead of people griping about MMO-X having too many bugs and problems compared to MM-Y and MMO-Z, they will be saying it doesn't have enough features as MMO-Y and MMO-Z.
The best I can suggest to anyone is to try and find some good in the game. If you can find some, then consider hanging around and waiting for them to fix the errors. Recent communication from Devs and Execs have indicated they have every intention of addressing player concerns this time around, though perhaps not in the way everyone likes. If you can't find any good in the game, then it's probably time to find something else to play, at least for a while. Maybe come back in 3-6 months time and see how things are then. I've done it before with games, and often enough there's been changes that have encouraged me to play for a while again.
As far as todays changes with the market wards, keep in mind that it's step 1 in a multi step process. I very much encourage reading the dev and exec statements given here
if you haven't yet, as it clears up a lot of things about where they will be taking the game in the next couple of months... the vast majority of it dealing with current complaints made by large portions of the community.
Take heart all... there are good things yet to come :)