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#1 Oct 15 2010 at 7:14 AM Rating: Default
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I like how every programming problem with find SE has yet to fix since beta gets called an exploit, and everyone crys YAY BAN THEM ALL! smh

When someone gives you NO clue to how THEIR game works and someone is smart enough to find out what DOES work, we get the nerfbat.

If things in game are not "working as intended" well maybe tell us how its suppose to work before slaping cuffs on folks?

And do this OPENLY, not behind your closed doors and post patch when you ninjafix(brake) stuff.


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#2 Oct 15 2010 at 7:37 AM Rating: Decent
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#3 Oct 15 2010 at 8:14 AM Rating: Good
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Pretty **** sure they gave you guys a chance to come clean before the banhammer started to swing. Your the ones thinking they'll never catch you, same kind of logical thieves in society and thus treated as one.
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#4 Oct 15 2010 at 8:23 AM Rating: Decent
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What exploit did you get banned for? I don't know if I should agree with you or call you out on abusing the system and hoping you didn't get caught lol.
#5 Oct 15 2010 at 8:23 AM Rating: Default
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I'm pretty sure there are laws that state not to steal. Where does it state in the game manuel not to gain copious amounts of exp or sp?

And just a lil fyi, none of the bans/nerfs have affected me; however, an indiscretion is still an indiscretion.

And come on, we are going to compare RL stealing to a game?
#6 Oct 15 2010 at 8:33 AM Rating: Decent
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nonameoflevi wrote:
I'm pretty sure there are laws that state not to steal. Where does it state in the game manuel not to gain copious amounts of exp or sp?

And just a lil fyi, none of the bans/nerfs have affected me; however, an indiscretion is still an indiscretion.

And come on, we are going to compare RL stealing to a game?

I'm pretty sure that analogy was to compare using logic in RL, to using logic in game. The instructions in the leve tell you to kill mobs, not to let them beat on you while 30 mages self buffs for 30 minutes.
Does this really need to be explained to you?
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#7 Oct 15 2010 at 8:37 AM Rating: Default
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Pretty **** sure they gave you guys a chance to come clean before the banhammer started to swing. Your the ones thinking they'll never catch you


Catch you FOR WHAT??? How was anyone to know that a group of 4th graders can program better than SE's development team? Why are the PLAYERS being punished for doing what any self respecting player innately tries to do: find the most efficient way to level in the shortest amount of time?

It's not "stealing". Nobody "hacked" any code here. By all means, fix the exploit. No need to mention it beforehand, just implement it in the next patch.

Someone needs to tell SE, however:

YOU DO NOT PUNISH YOUR PLAYERS FOR YOUR OWN F*** UPS!

That's important, so I'll copy/paste it ;)

YOU DO NOT PUNISH YOUR PLAYERS FOR YOUR OWN F*** UPS!

Which is kind of ironic, since FFXIV as a whole could easily be considered a F*** up, and the player punishment is actually attempting to play it [I challenge you to find me one good, non-paid for, review of FFXIV by a well established review publication/site.]

I'm sure I'll get rated down by the fanboys for that, but at this point I just don't care. It's like SE is intentionally trying to put themselves out of business. And for those that ask "why am I bother posting this", perhaps it's specifically because I *DO* Care that SE's continued failures drive me to express my disgust for what could have easily been the best game of all time.

YOU DO NOT PUNISH YOUR PLAYERS FOR YOUR YOUR F*** UPS!

/uber-rant off



Edited, Oct 15th 2010 10:40am by seneleron
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#8 Oct 15 2010 at 8:41 AM Rating: Default
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The instructions in the leve tell you to kill mobs, not to let them beat on you while 30 mages self buffs for 30 minutes.
Does this really need to be explained to you?


NO that does not. What does need to be explained is why the programmers left FATIGUE off for/during those quest. Wasn't fatigue added to PREVENT this from happening? I knew people who knew about it in OB. they left it there. more people found out. And now the mess insued.
#9 Oct 15 2010 at 9:34 AM Rating: Decent
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I hear SE is the only company that bans exploiters... oh wait.

Good riddance to the people who exploit.
#10kushing, Posted: Oct 15 2010 at 9:57 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) HAHAHA YOU GOT BANNED
#11 Oct 15 2010 at 9:59 AM Rating: Good
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SE gave people a chance to turn themselves in and get rolled back for exploiting. I don't have any sympathy. Don't cheat.
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#12thehellfire, Posted: Oct 15 2010 at 10:14 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) This, you cheated and got caught.
#13 Oct 15 2010 at 10:15 AM Rating: Decent
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If there was an exploit where you could drop one Marmot Meat, and suddenly get 5,000 SP, would you exploit it?

Would you say, "ITS IN THE GAME SO ITS INTENDED"?


Then, would you be surprised if they banned you for it? Similar concept.
#14 Oct 15 2010 at 10:21 AM Rating: Decent
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seneleron wrote:


Catch you FOR WHAT??? How was anyone to know that a group of 4th graders can program better than SE's development team? Why are the PLAYERS being punished for doing what any self respecting player innately tries to do: find the most efficient way to level in the shortest amount of time?



Any 4th graders know if there is something wrong, report it instead of abusing it and making benefits.

And SE gave chance for anyone to turn it.
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Edited, Oct 15th 2010 9:26am by timmyofalex
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#15 Oct 15 2010 at 10:23 AM Rating: Decent
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People who get banned for stumbling across an exploit on accident I have sympathy for. People who get caught in the auto-ban I have sympathy for. People who get banned after they knowingly exploited a game mechanic to achieve an end in a manner clearly not in the spirit of the game I have zero sympathy for.

You don't need a manual to tell you SE didn't want us to rank up by spamming cure while letting a low level mob hit us.
#16 Oct 15 2010 at 10:41 AM Rating: Excellent
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If there was an exploit feature where you could drop one Marmot Meat, and suddenly get 5,000 SP, would you exploit it?

Would you say, "ITS IN THE GAME SO ITS INTENDED"?

Then, would you be surprised if they banned you for it? Similar concept.


What if there was a ring you could use then every mob you kill gives more xp than the designers originally intended? Would you exploit it? Similar concept. SE has a history of making bonus xp/sp available in various ways.

In a new game where everyone is still trying to figure out how it works how are we supposed to know they didn't intend us to get sp in certain ways? How broken is it that I get 1000 xp every time I make a piece of cloth? Should I call a GM?
#17 Oct 15 2010 at 11:04 AM Rating: Default
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How broken is it that I get 1000 xp every time I make a piece of cloth? Should I call a GM?


Yes, you should get banned. I never got exp for crafting in FFXI so this must be a cheat. No game manuel told me I get exp for crafting. And clearly getting nearly 2K exp a synth must be an exploit. I only get 100 when I kill a mob.

/nerfbat
exp for crafting
roll back everyones Physical Level to 10
see me once it done



I dunno if the person asking me if I got banned was answered, but NO, im logged in right now lol, while im at working, making gil. EXPLOIT! I'm not using the ward to sale my stuff! /nerfbat
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