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#1 Oct 15 2010 at 7:48 AM Rating: Decent
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you can all stop complaining now. for once SE actually did something right!

edit: Im guessing most of you haven't realized this. They announced everything they are fixing. Which is pretty well everything that people complained about.
http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com/pl/topics/detail?id=c07a85c2f170a53057f5a39f56e6fc02b03b1184

They also added another 30 days free trial. Which is like saying "sorry we messed up release"

I definitely think that is fair. They told us what they will fix (almost everything people complained about) and then gave us 30 more free days which will last until the first fix.

Edited, Oct 15th 2010 9:55am by Azurymber
#2 Oct 15 2010 at 7:50 AM Rating: Decent
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Thank you complainers (Video game reviewing sites inculded) You are helping to MAKE SE shape this game into something we can all enjoy!

Edited, Oct 15th 2010 11:10am by UncleRuckusForLife
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#3 Oct 15 2010 at 7:50 AM Rating: Default
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They fixed all the UI issues?
They added a search function?
They added an inventory sort?
They added an AH?
Mailbox?
Made parties more plausible?
no? oh ok.
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#4 Oct 15 2010 at 7:53 AM Rating: Good
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ketrel wrote:
They fixed all the UI issues?
They added a search function?
They added an inventory sort?
They added an AH?
Mailbox?
Made parties more plausible?
no? oh ok.


http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com/pl/topics/detail?id=c07a85c2f170a53057f5a39f56e6fc02b03b1184

They fixed it all except mailbox. I mean it won't be implemented till november or december but point is by christmas 95% of the complaints will be solved.
#5 Oct 15 2010 at 7:56 AM Rating: Default
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What about content?
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#6 Oct 15 2010 at 7:59 AM Rating: Decent
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I'll /dance when its implemented and I've tried it out.
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ketrel wrote:
They fixed all the UI issues?
They added a search function?
They added an inventory sort?
They added an AH?
Mailbox?
Made parties more plausible?
no? oh ok.


Wow....didn't even bother to read update before bashing them, did ya?
Fixed UI issues? Yup.
Added a search function? Yeah, that too.
Inventory Sort? Uh huh...
AH? With searchable wards, do you really need an AH? Wards and retainers help prevent overpricing, even adding a search function could increase prices pretty heavily, but I'm still excited for the search by item and ward feature.
Mailbox? This one i'll give you, since I want this as well and there was no announcement regarding this.
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#8 Oct 15 2010 at 8:02 AM Rating: Good
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yfaithfully wrote:
What about content?


adding in NMs,
more levequests
and levequest nms

i mean its a step. Id love to see quests but i dont think that will ever happen in this game. but who knows :]
#9 Oct 15 2010 at 8:02 AM Rating: Good
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I'm quite pleased with this.

On the one hand, I really disliked Gamespot's review of FFXIV. On the other hand, it seemed to get through to them. My hope is that the major reviewers will have the courtesy to update their reviews after December.

This is definitely a fair agreement -- most of the major issues will now be fixed by the time any of us are paying for it. ]

Also, NMs are coming by November, I believe. So content+.
#10 Oct 15 2010 at 8:02 AM Rating: Decent
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It only took what like 5 reviews of 5.0 or lower, and entire comunity threating to walk away.........but jesus thats awesome!!!
#11 Oct 15 2010 at 8:04 AM Rating: Excellent
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If I've learned anything from the PS3's slow roll out of features is that people will ALWAYS find something to complain about. In this scenario though, most complainers are justified in their dissatisfaction.
#12 Oct 15 2010 at 8:06 AM Rating: Excellent
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yfaithfully wrote:
What about content?


I would definitely love some more content, but I want these next few version updates to focus on improving the game first. Hopefully there will be a big content version update early next year.

We shall see.
#13Pagansaint, Posted: Oct 15 2010 at 8:08 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Hmm, late November, imagine that, just in time for the console release. Too little, too late from a paid beta perspective.
#14 Oct 15 2010 at 8:14 AM Rating: Decent
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Wow....didn't even bother to read update before bashing them, did ya?
Fixed UI issues? Yup.
Added a search function? Yeah, that too.
Inventory Sort? Uh huh...
Mailbox? This one i'll give you, since I want this as well and there was no announcement regarding this.


Oh, they did fix all this stuff? Is it December? I was under the impression that it was the 15th of October.
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AH? With searchable wards, do you really need an AH? Wards and retainers help prevent overpricing, even adding a search function could increase prices pretty heavily, but I'm still excited for the search by item and ward feature.

This is the opposite effect market wards has. It doesn't stabilizer the price, it allows for much more of a variety in prices.
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#15 Oct 15 2010 at 8:19 AM Rating: Good
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Hmm, late November, imagine that, just in time for the console release. Too little, too late from a paid beta perspective.


Uhhh console release is like March 2011...
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#16 Oct 15 2010 at 8:20 AM Rating: Good
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People are always going to hate on XIV just like XI. Doesn't matter what changes SE brings, there will always be people to hate and troll. Just ignore them and enjoy the game.
#17 Oct 15 2010 at 8:26 AM Rating: Decent
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Console release is scheduled for March 2011, but the smart money is on delays and a summer release...
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#18 Oct 15 2010 at 8:30 AM Rating: Good
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Pagansaint wrote:
Hmm, late November, imagine that, just in time for the console release. Too little, too late from a paid beta perspective.


Did you also miss the part where they're giving us an additional 30 days free (60 total now)? Can't really call it a "paid" beta when it's free.

Edited, Oct 15th 2010 9:31am by Hydragyrum
#19 Oct 15 2010 at 8:37 AM Rating: Good
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Azurymber wrote:
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you can all stop complaining now. for once SE actually did something right!

edit: Im guessing most of you haven't realized this. They announced everything they are fixing. Which is pretty well everything that people complained about.
http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com/pl/topics/detail?id=c07a85c2f170a53057f5a39f56e6fc02b03b1184

They also added another 30 days free trial. Which is like saying "sorry we messed up release"

I definitely think that is fair. They told us what they will fix (almost everything people complained about) and then gave us 30 more free days which will last until the first fix.

Edited, Oct 15th 2010 9:55am by Azurymber


While at first glance it appears they've addressed "pretty much everything" when you start to list off all the of *major* things that still need to be addressed, the list they're planning on addressing seems quite small.

Still no word on chocobo's, airships, mailbox, party/linkshell invites, fixing battle regimens not going off, they mentioned adjusting them, no word on them not working properly. Archers getting quivers, arrows being more readily available in all the city states... the list goes on.

Yes it's a good start, there's still plenty to fix before it should be considered a stable well working MMO though.
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#20 Oct 15 2010 at 8:41 AM Rating: Good
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Pagansaint wrote:
Hmm, late November, imagine that, just in time for the console release. Too little, too late from a paid beta perspective.



It's not "paid beta", though, they gave us a free 30 days. After the 60 days of total free time, the game will be in pretty **** good shape (or at least after the December update). unless you're referring to having to buy the actual game, but you would've had to buy that anyway eventually so it doesn't make much difference when.

I consider it more of a free open beta where we get to keep our characters for the "official release" in December. =X
#21 Oct 15 2010 at 8:42 AM Rating: Excellent
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FeanaroOnPhoenix wrote:
Azurymber wrote:
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you can all stop complaining now. for once SE actually did something right!

edit: Im guessing most of you haven't realized this. They announced everything they are fixing. Which is pretty well everything that people complained about.
http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com/pl/topics/detail?id=c07a85c2f170a53057f5a39f56e6fc02b03b1184

They also added another 30 days free trial. Which is like saying "sorry we messed up release"

I definitely think that is fair. They told us what they will fix (almost everything people complained about) and then gave us 30 more free days which will last until the first fix.

Edited, Oct 15th 2010 9:55am by Azurymber


While at first glance it appears they've addressed "pretty much everything" when you start to list off all the of *major* things that still need to be addressed, the list they're planning on addressing seems quite small.

Still no word on chocobo's, airships, mailbox, party/linkshell invites, fixing battle regimens not going off, they mentioned adjusting them, no word on them not working properly. Archers getting quivers, arrows being more readily available in all the city states... the list goes on.

Yes it's a good start, there's still plenty to fix before it should be considered a stable well working MMO though.

To be fair, we have to give them some time to fix everything. At least they are fixing major issues first. Chocobos and airships can wait since we can teleport everywhere almost. Quivers would be nice, but i wouldn't say it's a game breaking problem. Mailbox is a big deal, and i hope that it finds it's way to the game soon.
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#22 Oct 15 2010 at 8:46 AM Rating: Good
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Azurymber wrote:
it won't be implemented till november or december
That's a pretty crucial point you're glossing over.

By the way:

Square Enix wrote:
Currently, we are focusing on addressing the issues about which players have been most vocal
To those who wanted people who had complaints to shut up, f*ck you, and you're welcome for fixing the game for you.

Edited, Oct 15th 2010 9:47am by bsphil
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#23 Oct 15 2010 at 8:46 AM Rating: Good
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Azurymber wrote:
ketrel wrote:
They fixed all the UI issues?
They added a search function?
They added an inventory sort?
They added an AH?
Mailbox?
Made parties more plausible?
no? oh ok.


http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com/pl/topics/detail?id=c07a85c2f170a53057f5a39f56e6fc02b03b1184

They fixed it all except mailbox. I mean it won't be implemented till november or december but point is by christmas 95% of the complaints will be solved.


95% is an overestimate. From what they posted, that's about 20-30% of the problems with the game.

Lacking a simple effective repair option for your gear, so you can repair and get on with your life, has yet to be addressed.

Depending on how they adjust battle regimens they could still be pretty lackluster. Skillchains were simple and effective, battle regimens are cumbersome, they take a good 3 regular attacks worth of time to setup, as opposed to just using 1 weapon skill after the other.

No word on mog houses or guild houses.

No word on optimizing the graphics engine for the game to run better.

There are plenty of things they really need to fix, this is a good start, but judging by how they're spacing out the updates, I don't know if the game will be up to par until the PS3 release, or a month or two later.
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Quivers would be nice, but i wouldn't say it's a game breaking problem.


Quivers are just a part of the problem. Arrows are only readily available in Gridania, unless you want to use crappy level 1 warped arrows. Lets assume that you do wanna use warped arrows, you still run into issues. You go through about 10 stacks an hour or more, that's 10 inventory slots, if you want to level for an hour, then you have to walk back to your home town, or the level 1 camp outside of it.

If you want to craft arrows, you have to level about 3 different crafts, and keep them all 5-10 ranks above your archer, if you want to craft arrows that are optimal for your level. The rate at which you craft in this game, you can shoot off a stack of arrows in the time it takes you to make a stack of arrows, so if you want to grind for an hour, you have to craft for an hour.

Quivers was just one suggestion to try to alleviate some of the inventory issues, there are more problems than just not having quivers.
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#25 Oct 15 2010 at 8:52 AM Rating: Decent
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...and up to now, the've done nothing.
I'll believe it once they are finished.
But the 30 day extension definitely was a nice move.
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FeanaroOnPhoenix wrote:

95% is an overestimate. From what they posted, that's about 20-30% of the problems with the game.

Lacking a simple effective repair option for your gear, so you can repair and get on with your life, has yet to be addressed.


I'll give you this one. NPC repair costs need to be lowered to be a viable repair option. And a better indication of exactly what gear is damaged would help a lot.

FeanaroOnPhoenix wrote:

Depending on how they adjust battle regimens they could still be pretty lackluster. Skillchains were simple and effective, battle regimens are cumbersome, they take a good 3 regular attacks worth of time to setup, as opposed to just using 1 weapon skill after the other.


Only time will tell, but I prefer the challenge in coordination as long as the results match.

FeanaroOnPhoenix wrote:

No word on mog houses or guild houses.


Not really a big deal. How many people would use it for anything other than extra storage?

FeanaroOnPhoenix wrote:

No word on optimizing the graphics engine for the game to run better.


I'm not a hardware guru, but my three year old PC runs it just fine, so I don't see this as a big issue.

FeanaroOnPhoenix wrote:

There are plenty of things they really need to fix, this is a good start, but judging by how they're spacing out the updates, I don't know if the game will be up to par until the PS3 release, or a month or two later.


Only content updates are spaced out every three months. Fixes will be released when they're finished. They've finally acknowledged that they are taking criticism and acting on it, so I have no doubt we'll continue to get frequent little fixes in addition to content updates.

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bsphil wrote:
Azurymber wrote:
it won't be implemented till november or december
That's a pretty crucial point you're glossing over.

By the way:

Square Enix wrote:
Currently, we are focusing on addressing the issues about which players have been most vocal
To those who wanted people who had complaints to shut up, f*ck you, and you're welcome for fixing the game for you.

Edited, Oct 15th 2010 9:47am by bsphil


I know some people were rude about it. I can't speak for everyone, but i never wanted complainers to shut up. I only wanted complainers to post complaints in proper places, and do so in a constructive manner. For those of you who did that, i thank you.
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bsphil wrote:
Azurymber wrote:
it won't be implemented till november or december
That's a pretty crucial point you're glossing over.

By the way:

Square Enix wrote:
Currently, we are focusing on addressing the issues about which players have been most vocal
To those who wanted people who had complaints to shut up, f*ck you, and you're welcome for fixing the game for you.

Edited, Oct 15th 2010 9:47am by bsphil


Seriously, being complacent, and not saying anything will get you nowhere, if you want something changed, speak up, it's why we have a feedback forum.

"We already have like 10 threads about this"

Guess it was a good thing we made those threads.
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#29 Oct 15 2010 at 9:03 AM Rating: Excellent
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FeanaroOnPhoenix wrote:
Teneleven wrote:

Quivers would be nice, but i wouldn't say it's a game breaking problem.


Quivers are just a part of the problem. Arrows are only readily available in Gridania, unless you want to use crappy level 1 warped arrows. Lets assume that you do wanna use warped arrows, you still run into issues. You go through about 10 stacks an hour or more, that's 10 inventory slots, if you want to level for an hour, then you have to walk back to your home town, or the level 1 camp outside of it.

If you want to craft arrows, you have to level about 3 different crafts, and keep them all 5-10 ranks above your archer, if you want to craft arrows that are optimal for your level. The rate at which you craft in this game, you can shoot off a stack of arrows in the time it takes you to make a stack of arrows, so if you want to grind for an hour, you have to craft for an hour.

Quivers was just one suggestion to try to alleviate some of the inventory issues, there are more problems than just not having quivers.

I understand that. I stopped playing archer for now because of it. My only point was that i'd rather see other issues fixed first. Quivers, or arrow availability will be a good suggestion topic once the UI and market ward problems are sorted out.
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#30 Oct 15 2010 at 9:36 AM Rating: Decent
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Talk is cheap - I really REALLY got excited when i read the changes coming - but thats all they are to me at the moment intangible stuff that the game should have had implemented at release
#31 Oct 15 2010 at 9:39 AM Rating: Decent
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Its a good start, but most of these fixes should've been done before launch. They missed a huge opportunity to win over their fanbase, and while all of these fixes will definately help, you gotta believe that a big chunk of their fanbase has been lost forever. The extra free month is there way of admitting the game wasnt remotely ready for release. Realistically, they should just make it free to play until Jan of 2011.
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Talk is cheap - I really REALLY got excited when i read the changes coming - but thats all they are to me at the moment intangible stuff that the game should have had implemented at release


SE agrees with you which is why they also gave us an extra month free. If you have any experience with SE you'd see that this is as close as they'll come to saying, "Yeah, we screwed up. We're trying as best we can to listen to you guys and make this game enjoyable for everyone. Here's a free month as a token of our sincerity."
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Dev’s in every game are always SAYING they’re going to fix everything and implement everything players want, but they seldom DO what they say. I mean seriously, it’s not like the problems are new. They could’ve fixed things BEFORE release, but they DID NOT. Track record speaks louder than pie in the sky promises. I’ll believe it when I see it.

Oh, and btw, I can’t even get into the game because their login procedure is broken for some people.


Edited, Oct 15th 2010 11:45am by DLemke
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So happy I could hug an SE executive! They really have listened to our pleas! You can't please 100% of the people all the time, but im willing to bet that they've done a good job of pleasing 90% of the existing players with these updates and planned updates.

Thank you Square-Enix! </hug>
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What’s this nonsense about 60 days free? It’s not ‘free’. SE call it 30 days ‘free trial’ time when you buy the box, but that’s just a false label for advertising purposes. SE is just using incorrect English terminology there as elsewhere, and so are some people in this thread.

Some people paid 75 dollars to start, others paid 50 dollars to start. Almost all games give the first month ‘free’ with box, meaning it’s not free, you get it with the box.

A ‘free trial’ is one where you download and try it out at no cost.

I paid 50 dollars and got to play a week before the game broke and won’t let me in. Whether 30 days or 60 days to play, I paid 50 dollars to be in the ‘post-release beta’ let’s call it.
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Hydragyrum wrote:
Silvarus wrote:
Talk is cheap - I really REALLY got excited when i read the changes coming - but thats all they are to me at the moment intangible stuff that the game should have had implemented at release


SE agrees with you which is why they also gave us an extra month free. If you have any experience with SE you'd see that this is as close as they'll come to saying, "Yeah, we screwed up. We're trying as best we can to listen to you guys and make this game enjoyable for everyone. Here's a free month as a token of our sincerity."

But this patch is coming in late November, meaning that if you're not enjoying it now, it's unlikely that much will change in the next thirty days. I give them credit for admitting how horrid of shape the game was in at launch -- since it's about as much as we're likely to get from SE -- but it does feel like too little, too late. Speaking personally, even with a free month, I'm not going to suffer through the sort of systemic problems that the game has on the chance that this patch will solve everything.

What this patch does do is make me hopeful that the PS3 launch will be the game everyone thought it would be for the PC launch. If SE keeps up with this sort of communication and accountability, FFXIV will hopefully turn into an exceptional game down the road. But if you don't like it now, it's unlikely that a free month of the same issues will convince you to stay.
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DLemke wrote:

What’s this nonsense about 60 days free? It’s not ‘free’. SE call it 30 days ‘free trial’ time when you buy the box, but that’s just a false label for advertising purposes. SE is just using incorrect English terminology there as elsewhere, and so are some people in this thread.

Some people paid 75 dollars to start, others paid 50 dollars to start. Almost all games give the first month ‘free’ with box, meaning it’s not free, you get it with the box.

A ‘free trial’ is one where you download and try it out at no cost.

I paid 50 dollars and got to play a week before the game broke and won’t let me in. Whether 30 days or 60 days to play, I paid 50 dollars to be in the ‘post-release beta’ let’s call it.

"Free" refers to the service. Every other major MMO has a "free trial" period after you buy the game. Yes, it's an advertising move. SE is a company. It's pretty stupid that you don't realize this.
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#40 Oct 15 2010 at 10:16 AM Rating: Decent
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I don't think so, ppl will find something to QQ/complain/hate again, always something.

But I'm happy with all the changes that will be made + another trial month yayyyyyy
#41 Oct 15 2010 at 10:17 AM Rating: Default
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it won't be implemented till november or december
That's a pretty crucial point you're glossing over.

By the way:

Square Enix wrote:
Currently, we are focusing on addressing the issues about which players have been most vocal
To those who wanted people who had complaints to shut up, f*ck you, and you're welcome for fixing the game for you.


Ya, because the ongoing snivelfest in forums that SE didn't even read were instrumental to all of this. That's what most of us were referring to...sniveling crybabies ******** up the general forums here with repetitive whining. You can pretend that carrying on like a 2nd grade crack kiddie who just had their cookie taken away in places that SE wasn't drawing feedback from was helpful if that's what you need to do. Just don't expect too many people to take you seriously. You're the numpty who went on and on and on from your high horse about how you weren't going to play because it was trash and SE blew it so you're not playing and WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH duh herpa derp WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH!!!

How's your rank 17 marauder, btw?
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Talk is cheap - I really REALLY got excited when i read the changes coming - but thats all they are to me at the moment intangible stuff that the game should have had implemented at release



Hey they realized things were messed up and loads of functionality was missing. Talk is not cheap
to some of us someone's word still means something. SE has given concession to us the players saying they
messed up.

30 days extra to play at no charge . . . .

admitting fixes need to be made and will be made before the year is out. These fixes should have been there yes 100%
in the final client release. I am not listing those as we all know what they are.

I'll take playing at a reduced cost for just the cost of the client until SE straightens this stuff out.

But let's give credit where its due? SE is working to address what we have been talking about and these things
in such large games are not and cannot be fixed over night. even developers need sleep and time to code and test it

nice job OP, thanks for the post and I am excited to see the next updates come through.
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Well, I guess it's nice to see some people appreciating what SE have announced today. I for one am very happy with it, and have had my faith completely restored by this. The additional free month is especially good.

I was starting to become concerned about the game, and all the little niggly issues that I've had with it, but seems they are going to be addressed now.

I'm still largely avoiding the community forums at the moment however as I really can't deal with all the whining and ******** and hating. There's constructive criticism, and then there's just being an annoying little pratt and throwing your toys out the pram because you didn't get your own way. I just wanted to let my voice be heard - yay, thank you SE for restoring my faith :)
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The One and Only Aurelius wrote:
bsphil wrote:
Azurymber wrote:
it won't be implemented till november or december
That's a pretty crucial point you're glossing over.

By the way:

Square Enix wrote:
Currently, we are focusing on addressing the issues about which players have been most vocal
To those who wanted people who had complaints to shut up, f*ck you, and you're welcome for fixing the game for you.


Ya, because the ongoing snivelfest in forums that SE didn't even read were instrumental to all of this. That's what most of us were referring to...sniveling crybabies sh*tting up the general forums here with repetitive whining. You can pretend that carrying on like a 2nd grade crack kiddie who just had their cookie taken away in places that SE wasn't drawing feedback from was helpful if that's what you need to do. Just don't expect too many people to take you seriously. You're the numpty who went on and on and on from your high horse about how you weren't going to play because it was trash and SE blew it so you're not playing and WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH duh herpa derp WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH!!!

How's your rank 17 marauder, btw?


Cause you totally know that they didn't look at any forum but the feedback ones right? And that they only looked at ZAM feedback forums, nowhere else right?

Curious that you denigrate others in your self-assuredness of how right you are for that exact same behavior they are exhibiting. What's the word for that again?
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They also added another 30 days free trial. Which is like saying "sorry we messed up release"


Dunno if someone has asked this yet but, for those who isn't playing FFXIV yet, will they be getting a 60day trail? Or is the extra 30 just for those who are already playing.
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#46 Oct 15 2010 at 10:44 AM Rating: Decent
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Cause you totally know that they didn't look at any forum but the feedback ones right? And that they only looked at ZAM feedback forums, nowhere else right?


lol. how the **** do any of us know what forums they look at? wtf =x
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Azurymber wrote:
/dance
/dance
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you can all stop complaining now. for once SE actually did something right!

edit: Im guessing most of you haven't realized this. They announced everything they are fixing. Which is pretty well everything that people complained about.
http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com/pl/topics/detail?id=c07a85c2f170a53057f5a39f56e6fc02b03b1184

They also added another 30 days free trial. Which is like saying "sorry we messed up release"

I definitely think that is fair. They told us what they will fix (almost everything people complained about) and then gave us 30 more free days which will last until the first fix.

Edited, Oct 15th 2010 9:55am by Azurymber


Fair huh? The 30 day extension only benefits new players. Those of us that have been playing since launch get to wallow in the crap for an extra 30 days, then we have to pay if we want to play the fixed version. So sick of fanboys praising everything SE does.
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#48 Oct 15 2010 at 11:02 AM Rating: Decent
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This extension is a business decision. Hopefully someone at SE knows that keeping the customer base is crucial. How many of you tried an MMO at release, been dissatisfied and returned? I would have left and tried once more at 6 months. The proposed changes are nice but it would be nice to see some significant fixes before the free period expires.
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rayminette wrote:
Azurymber wrote:
/dance
/dance
/dance
you can all stop complaining now. for once SE actually did something right!

edit: Im guessing most of you haven't realized this. They announced everything they are fixing. Which is pretty well everything that people complained about.
http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com/pl/topics/detail?id=c07a85c2f170a53057f5a39f56e6fc02b03b1184

They also added another 30 days free trial. Which is like saying "sorry we messed up release"

I definitely think that is fair. They told us what they will fix (almost everything people complained about) and then gave us 30 more free days which will last until the first fix.

Edited, Oct 15th 2010 9:55am by Azurymber


Fair huh? The 30 day extension only benefits new players. Those of us that have been playing since launch get to wallow in the crap for an extra 30 days, then we have to pay if we want to play the fixed version. So sick of fanboys praising everything SE does.


I'm not a fanboy, if anything i've created some of the most controversial threads about how SE screwed the game up. In open beta i constantly got flamed with people saying "its just beta, at release there will be tons of more zones, new mobs, quests, nms, etc". Even last night i posted an exp exploit that could have ruined the game, and got flamed hardcore by some people who said the exploit doesn't exist, others who said it doesn't effect the game, and others who didn't want people to know about the exploit since they were using it. Ironically 3 hours later SE adresses and fixed the exploit.

Point is im obviously not a fanboy.

30 days more free is admitting they messed up. I had posted a thread saying SE should apologize and list what they will fix about a week ago. This is exactly what they did. 30 days free is an apology to keep people playing. And they listed what they will fix.
What more could you possibly want?

also mailbox wise. I doubt they will ever put one in the game. Rather it will be in lodestone, and they might link it to the game to show when you have messages. This is at least what dev's seemed to have intended to do when they were talking about beta/launch.

Edited, Oct 15th 2010 1:17pm by Azurymber
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also mailbox wise. I doubt they will ever put one in the game. Rather it will be in lodestone, and they might link it to the game to show when you have messages. This is at least what dev's seemed to have intended to do when they were talking about beta/launch.


I think everyone has been referring to an ingame mailbox for sending items and gil.
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The One and Only Aurelius wrote:
bsphil wrote:
Azurymber wrote:
it won't be implemented till november or december
That's a pretty crucial point you're glossing over.

By the way:

Square Enix wrote:
Currently, we are focusing on addressing the issues about which players have been most vocal
To those who wanted people who had complaints to shut up, f*ck you, and you're welcome for fixing the game for you.


Ya, because the ongoing snivelfest in forums that SE didn't even read were instrumental to all of this. That's what most of us were referring to...sniveling crybabies sh*tting up the general forums here with repetitive whining. You can pretend that carrying on like a 2nd grade crack kiddie who just had their cookie taken away in places that SE wasn't drawing feedback from was helpful if that's what you need to do. Just don't expect too many people to take you seriously. You're the numpty who went on and on and on from your high horse about how you weren't going to play because it was trash and SE blew it so you're not playing and WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH duh herpa derp WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH!!!

How's your rank 17 marauder, btw?


A million times this. You're deluding yourself if you think the ******** on here means **** all. What probably helped more than anything was the smarter people that sent in real feedback through the official feedback form on SE's site. Find it yourself, I've posted it before and I'm not posting it again.

Same thing for the people that think the reviews that came out made **** all difference to what SE had planned and knew had to be fixed. They may have caused SE to make the official post regarding what they're working on but its hardly the reason for them fixing the things that are wrong.

And to anyone whining about it taking them till late November to get the patch ready. If its so easy to create an MMO and create balanced patches without ******* anything else up you can go ahead an do that. Fire me a PM with the finished product by next week.

Disclaimer: Yes they rushed the release. Yes the game has issues. If you don't want to play a "paid beta" come back in 6 months or quit altogether and stop plugging up the forums with crap.
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