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Congrats and thank you to all the complainersFollow

#52 Oct 15 2010 at 3:17 PM Rating: Decent
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Mentoc wrote:
I doubt it had anything to do with complainers or reviewers. It had to do with canceled accounts. If you hit them where it counts, in the pocketbook, you bet that they're going to respond.



/agree

I didn't have anything to do with the whiners, (that = me),

It also didn't have anything to do with the zealots that said "This game is amazing zomg best mmo ever perfect game, shut up whiners if you don't like it gtfo!!"

#53 Oct 15 2010 at 3:24 PM Rating: Decent
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UncleRuckusForLife wrote:
SoumaKyou wrote:
UncleRuckusForLife wrote:
I like when you jump right into the name calling it makes for more enjoyable posts. Thanks complainers!

Nah, it's more enjoyable to see you show everyone how ignorant you are by posting such nonsense.

Comparing your incessant whining to Martin Luther King... hilarious.

I apologize that the school system failed you.

Edited, Oct 15th 2010 4:50pm by SoumaKyou


Im sorry you are having trouble seeing the parallels.

If you think racism and oppression are, in any way, related to a video game's shortcomings, then you really are an idiot.
#54 Oct 15 2010 at 3:30 PM Rating: Default
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SoumaKyou wrote:
UncleRuckusForLife wrote:
SoumaKyou wrote:
UncleRuckusForLife wrote:
I like when you jump right into the name calling it makes for more enjoyable posts. Thanks complainers!

Nah, it's more enjoyable to see you show everyone how ignorant you are by posting such nonsense.

Comparing your incessant whining to Martin Luther King... hilarious.

I apologize that the school system failed you.

Edited, Oct 15th 2010 4:50pm by SoumaKyou


Im sorry you are having trouble seeing the parallels.

If you think racism and oppression are, in any way, related to a video game's shortcomings, then you really are an idiot.


Again with the name calling nice.

I think getting mad and quitting/rage quitting and getting mad about something and boycotting are similar. I think speaking up against unfair treatment is similar to protesting for rights. I am sorry you cant see the similarities.
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#55 Oct 15 2010 at 3:39 PM Rating: Decent
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UncleRuckusForLife wrote:
SoumaKyou wrote:
UncleRuckusForLife wrote:
SoumaKyou wrote:
UncleRuckusForLife wrote:
I like when you jump right into the name calling it makes for more enjoyable posts. Thanks complainers!

Nah, it's more enjoyable to see you show everyone how ignorant you are by posting such nonsense.

Comparing your incessant whining to Martin Luther King... hilarious.

I apologize that the school system failed you.

Edited, Oct 15th 2010 4:50pm by SoumaKyou


Im sorry you are having trouble seeing the parallels.

If you think racism and oppression are, in any way, related to a video game's shortcomings, then you really are an idiot.


Again with the name calling nice.

I think getting mad and quitting/rage quitting and getting mad about something and boycotting are similar. I think speaking up against unfair treatment is similar to protesting for rights. I am sorry you cant see the similarities.



Comparing two different things on their principle and not severity is perfectly acceptable to get a point across.
#56 Oct 15 2010 at 3:40 PM Rating: Decent
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I never posted anything on this because I had faith SE would fix all the issues, but I too would like to thank all the QQ'ers for most likely speeding this process up.
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#57 Oct 15 2010 at 3:43 PM Rating: Default
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UncleRuckusForLife wrote:
SoumaKyou wrote:
UncleRuckusForLife wrote:
SoumaKyou wrote:
UncleRuckusForLife wrote:
I like when you jump right into the name calling it makes for more enjoyable posts. Thanks complainers!

Nah, it's more enjoyable to see you show everyone how ignorant you are by posting such nonsense.

Comparing your incessant whining to Martin Luther King... hilarious.

I apologize that the school system failed you.

Edited, Oct 15th 2010 4:50pm by SoumaKyou


Im sorry you are having trouble seeing the parallels.

If you think racism and oppression are, in any way, related to a video game's shortcomings, then you really are an idiot.


Again with the name calling nice.

I think getting mad and quitting/rage quitting and getting mad about something and boycotting are similar. I think speaking up against unfair treatment is similar to protesting for rights. I am sorry you cant see the similarities.

Except they're not the same. We're not being forced to play. The 'unfair treatment' you feel is because you somehow think Square is entitled to answer to you. They don't. You can leave if you don't like how they're managing their game. You're not being lynched, your family won't get killed if you don't agree with them. No, I honestly can't see how you can even make a comparison.
#58 Oct 15 2010 at 3:50 PM Rating: Default
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SoumaKyou wrote:
UncleRuckusForLife wrote:
SoumaKyou wrote:
UncleRuckusForLife wrote:
SoumaKyou wrote:
UncleRuckusForLife wrote:
I like when you jump right into the name calling it makes for more enjoyable posts. Thanks complainers!

Nah, it's more enjoyable to see you show everyone how ignorant you are by posting such nonsense.

Comparing your incessant whining to Martin Luther King... hilarious.

I apologize that the school system failed you.

Edited, Oct 15th 2010 4:50pm by SoumaKyou


Im sorry you are having trouble seeing the parallels.

If you think racism and oppression are, in any way, related to a video game's shortcomings, then you really are an idiot.


Again with the name calling nice.

I think getting mad and quitting/rage quitting and getting mad about something and boycotting are similar. I think speaking up against unfair treatment is similar to protesting for rights. I am sorry you cant see the similarities.

Except they're not the same. We're not being forced to play. The 'unfair treatment' you feel is because you somehow think Square is entitled to answer to you. They don't. You can leave if you don't like how they're managing their game. You're not being lynched, your family won't get killed if you don't agree with them. No, I honestly can't see how you can even make a comparison.


Sorry I see the similarities. You forgot to call me a name this time.
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#59 Oct 15 2010 at 3:53 PM Rating: Decent
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I don't see how police, constructive criticism necessary helps. If you say "I love this game, I'm gonna keep playing, but I'd like to see X, Y, Z" what motivation does SE have to implement them?

If you say "This game is terribad because of X, Y, and Z and I am canceling after my free 30 days" that sends a pretty strong message - if you want $$$, make the changes.


Absolutely correct.
This is true for customer service in general. If you don't complain, you don't get serviced.
On the other hand, if you make a big stink about it, you will almost always get your way. I'm not saying this is good. It's just the way it is.

Ask youself how all of these problems got through beta testing? Either all the beta testers were all useless fanboys or they did report the issues but SE didn't think they were serious. Why do you suppose they didn't think the issues were serious until paying customers started to complain? Because polite and constructive criticism doesn't get as much as attention as people threatening to take their business elsewhere.


The beta testers did complain. They complained vociferously. The fanboys jumped on them, much like now. The fanboys did nothing but say yah great, It's only a beta. Yah great, go back to WoW. Then it was yah great they will fix everything at release, its only a beta. Go back to WoW its launch, all games have problems at launch, yah great they will fix it in the upcoming patches.

Guess what, I don't want a free month. I want to buy some frickin retainers and a searchable market ward.


You know the complainers actually made a lot of valid points. IGN's review of the game, giving it a 5.5 score only served to emphasize the bad points that these very complaints were talking about. If SE didn't get such bad reviews that underscored the complaints, nothing in this game would be slated for change even though it was pretty obvious to alpha and beta testers that there are several game features that SE has woefully implemented.
http://pc.ign.com/articles/112/1123824p1.html

For instance: The market ward system and lack of auction house is terrible; the quests (leves) are boring, repetitive, and limited; the gui interface is slow, unresponsive, and needlessly cluttered; gameplay outside of the main storyline quest lacks any.... well story; FFXIV looks to have been released prematurely and lacks content suitable for parties and that's why nobody parties in this game unless its with someone they already know.

Do you really think SE is giving players an extra free month out of the goodness of their own hearts? Of course not. They know this game is in trouble and it needs fixing. And they aim to fix their bugaboos in that month and hope that players will stick around long enough to see these necessary changes made. Those people who say SE is accountable to nobody is delusional. They are directly accountable to the people who PAY to play their game. This isn't a freely provided service, this is a PAID FOR consumer product. This is SE's way of saying 'my bad', have some more play time, hope you stick around to see us improve this thus far lousy product.
http://dualshockers.com/2010/10/15/final-fantasy-xiv-giving-players-more-play-time/

Edited, Oct 15th 2010 5:58pm by goraiden
#60 Oct 15 2010 at 4:00 PM Rating: Good
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I tihnk you are confused about what complainers we are talkinga bout

we are talking about people who goes "WTH (*&@#(%&*@#(%& SE are idiots!!! The entire Story is MORNIC!!!! It is Cliche!!! I don't care if server were up for 30 seconds, it isn't fixed. WTH Lead Designers are Crazy!!!! RMT will rule the world!!!!"

Those are the complainers most of us are talking about. They add near 0 value to any discussion and are more taking up our time to sooth their blemished egos or perceived slights by SE.

We acknowledge feedback - we have a feed back forum. But pointless rambling about generalized topics for the sake of venting on a public forum are not helpful.
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#61 Oct 15 2010 at 4:06 PM Rating: Default
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UncleRuckusForLife wrote:


Sorry I see the similarities. You forgot to call me a name this time.

You also apparently fail to see that your childish rants are, in no way, similar to the educated arguments of the people you're trying to compare yourselves to.
#62 Oct 15 2010 at 4:12 PM Rating: Excellent
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So SE has basically come out and said that the game wasn't really ready to be released and is giving everyone a free month? Even being one of SE's bigger critics lately, I have to say this at least builds some good will. Now fix the game and make it playable and fun. :)
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#63 Oct 15 2010 at 5:29 PM Rating: Good
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This UncleDufus guy or w/e has the worst case of selective listening I have ever seen. He's incredibly annoying and has very little grasp of reality.

Three things led to these changes (in this order): sales numbers, official reviews and fan feedback. Most of the complaints that you are talking about as "whiners" were not put together intelligently enough to be taken seriously by anyone, much less a major company. Other suggestions and concerns were pretty much shared by all - the groups you call "fanboys" and "whiners" and everyone in the middle.

But if you still want to call yourself a revolutionary on a level with Martin Luther King because you acted like an idiot crying about aspects of an MMO on an Internet forum, I guess I can't stop you.
#64 Oct 15 2010 at 5:54 PM Rating: Decent
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UncleRuckusForLife wrote:
Did you know Martin Luther King, Rosa Parks, and other civil rights leaders were considered trouble makers(Complainers/whiners) by many in their day too. Imagine if they had not complained/protested.

Edited, Oct 15th 2010 11:35am by UncleRuckusForLife

Edited, Oct 15th 2010 11:36am by UncleRuckusForLife


Did you know that's 3 people out of billions of complainers who managed to get credited for doing anything?
#65 Oct 15 2010 at 5:56 PM Rating: Default
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Actually all of them went out there and contributed to the solution.

They didn't sit on their **** and whine and whine and whine and throw a tantrum and call anyone who disagreed with them morons :)
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#66 Oct 15 2010 at 6:04 PM Rating: Decent
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I just think it's funny how he's justifying it. It's like saying a child throwing a temper tantrum is the same as a Nobel Peace prize-winning leader and activist.
#67 Oct 15 2010 at 6:18 PM Rating: Decent
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This is how i imagine all the complainers where like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbcctWbC8Q0

I mean the one's that spammed forums daily, not contributing to anything.
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#68 Oct 15 2010 at 6:18 PM Rating: Excellent
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UncleRuckusForLife wrote:
SoumaKyou wrote:
UncleRuckusForLife wrote:
I like when you jump right into the name calling it makes for more enjoyable posts. Thanks complainers!

Nah, it's more enjoyable to see you show everyone how ignorant you are by posting such nonsense.

Comparing your incessant whining to Martin Luther King... hilarious.

I apologize that the school system failed you.

Edited, Oct 15th 2010 4:50pm by SoumaKyou


Im sorry you are having trouble seeing the parallels.

I see the parallels you have drawn, but I agree with the other point of view. Let's put it this way, the "complainers", by their behavior, have shown themselves to be the Malcolm X of this little movement, not the revered Martin Luther King Jr. History has not painted Malcolm X kindly, mostly because it was generally agreed he was kind of an ***. Polite, reasonable, demonstration of displeasure is what made changes that time, and I like to think this time too. Histories are written, not by the sword, but by the pen.
#69 Oct 15 2010 at 6:24 PM Rating: Decent
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Hulan wrote:
UncleRuckusForLife wrote:
SoumaKyou wrote:
UncleRuckusForLife wrote:
I like when you jump right into the name calling it makes for more enjoyable posts. Thanks complainers!

Nah, it's more enjoyable to see you show everyone how ignorant you are by posting such nonsense.

Comparing your incessant whining to Martin Luther King... hilarious.

I apologize that the school system failed you.

Edited, Oct 15th 2010 4:50pm by SoumaKyou


Im sorry you are having trouble seeing the parallels.

I see the parallels you have drawn, but I agree with the other point of view. Let's put it this way, the "complainers", by their behavior, have shown themselves to be the Malcolm X of this little movement, not the revered Martin Luther King Jr. History has not painted Malcolm X kindly, mostly because it was generally agreed he was kind of an ***. Polite, reasonable, demonstration of displeasure is what made changes that time, and I like to think this time too. Histories are written, not by the sword, but by the pen.


I'll go with this.
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