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#1 Oct 17 2010 at 8:31 PM Rating: Decent
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I apologize if this topic has been discussed before. For some reason the search feature doesn't work for me atm.

Here is the deal: I'm currently Botanist 15/Miner 16. A couple of days ago while selecting leves in LL, I was able to chose from lv 20 camp quests for miner, but not for botanist; yesterday in Ul'dah I had access to lv 20 quests for Botanist, but not for Miner! Also, I've done like 6 lv 20 mining quests but only got Guid Marks once as a reward (for a quest I had already completed twice before), could someone please enlighten me and explain how does this reward system work?
#2 Oct 17 2010 at 8:40 PM Rating: Good
The reward system for leves is VERY random, and depends mainly (for Guild Marks anyway) on the number of jobs you have at Rank 10 or higher, since this means that corresponding Leves (Battlecraft for DoW/DoM, Fieldcraft for DoH) will have a random chance to award you Guild Marks to a DIFFERENT job to the one you might currently be equipped for (e.g Conjurer Marks for a Leve you know you can complete as a high-level Pugilist, but might be difficult/impossible as a low-level Conjurer without a party.)

Also, as said before, you are not guaranteed marks or items for leves, and most of the time the main reward will be Gil. Faction Leves follow the same principle, but seem to have a higher chance of Marks + Items. Be aware though, that when the leves reset, the awards for NEW leves will be reset and randomized. It's really an issue of luck, at least in my personal experience.



Edited, Oct 17th 2010 10:42pm by GuiltyBoomerang
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#3 Oct 17 2010 at 8:42 PM Rating: Good
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Yes, LUCK. Now thats a good system.
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#4 Oct 17 2010 at 8:48 PM Rating: Good
I'm rank 20 miner (joined guild) and 19 botanist. So far as I can tell, the only rank 20 miner leves to be had are out of LL and involve a trip to Camp Bloodshore, and the only rank 20 botanist quests are out of Ul'dah and involve Camp Horizon. At first, before I hit 20 miner, I thought maybe SE was just throwing me a bone and letting me get the rank 20 leves from LL until I hit rank 20 and joined the guild, at which point Ul'dah and Gridania leves would be unlocked. I was mistaken.

I had just barely over 5000 guild marks for mining before I even joined the miner's guild. I've got something like 3k botany guild points already saved up and will likely be hitting rank 20 with that sometime this week. I'm no longer expecting/hoping to find rank 20 leves for botanist at that time, either.

Miner/Botanist guild marks seem to appear much more frequently than they do for DoH classes. Now over a week since I joined the armorer's guild and I've still only received guild marks from one leve. I'd actually be happier with a system where the marks were handed out more frequently and consistently but in smaller amounts than this current system where you don't even know if you're going to get marks at all until you turn in the leve. It makes failing a leve that much more frustrating because you'll never know if that was the one leve that would have given you marks out of all the ones you'll do in the next 14-20 days.
#5 Oct 17 2010 at 8:57 PM Rating: Decent
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Thank you ^^;
This is kinda sad... I got so many classes to level 10 or above, I'm never gonna be able to get Guild Marks for the ones I want if you guys are right ;;;;;;;;;;;
#6 Oct 17 2010 at 9:51 PM Rating: Good
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The One and Only Aurelius wrote:
I'm rank 20 miner (joined guild) and 19 botanist. So far as I can tell, the only rank 20 miner leves to be had are out of LL and involve a trip to Camp Bloodshore, and the only rank 20 botanist quests are out of Ul'dah and involve Camp Horizon. At first, before I hit 20 miner, I thought maybe SE was just throwing me a bone and letting me get the rank 20 leves from LL until I hit rank 20 and joined the guild, at which point Ul'dah and Gridania leves would be unlocked. I was mistaken.

I had just barely over 5000 guild marks for mining before I even joined the miner's guild. I've got something like 3k botany guild points already saved up and will likely be hitting rank 20 with that sometime this week. I'm no longer expecting/hoping to find rank 20 leves for botanist at that time, either.

Miner/Botanist guild marks seem to appear much more frequently than they do for DoH classes. Now over a week since I joined the armorer's guild and I've still only received guild marks from one leve. I'd actually be happier with a system where the marks were handed out more frequently and consistently but in smaller amounts than this current system where you don't even know if you're going to get marks at all until you turn in the leve. It makes failing a leve that much more frustrating because you'll never know if that was the one leve that would have given you marks out of all the ones you'll do in the next 14-20 days.

It's entirely random no matter what discipline you are using. For instance, this week i have gotten about 5 leve's that give me MAR guildmarks as a reward. 2 were from Ul'Dah. That's more than i have seen since i started playing. It's too bad that DoH can only get from 1 place though. You lose out on trading in 2 star leves to increase the guildmark rewards. I traded in 4 2star leves from gridania to Ul'Dah where the original reward was 900ish marks. The reward jumped to 1700ish marks.
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#7 Oct 17 2010 at 9:59 PM Rating: Decent
Teneleven wrote:
The One and Only Aurelius wrote:
I'm rank 20 miner (joined guild) and 19 botanist. So far as I can tell, the only rank 20 miner leves to be had are out of LL and involve a trip to Camp Bloodshore, and the only rank 20 botanist quests are out of Ul'dah and involve Camp Horizon. At first, before I hit 20 miner, I thought maybe SE was just throwing me a bone and letting me get the rank 20 leves from LL until I hit rank 20 and joined the guild, at which point Ul'dah and Gridania leves would be unlocked. I was mistaken.

I had just barely over 5000 guild marks for mining before I even joined the miner's guild. I've got something like 3k botany guild points already saved up and will likely be hitting rank 20 with that sometime this week. I'm no longer expecting/hoping to find rank 20 leves for botanist at that time, either.

Miner/Botanist guild marks seem to appear much more frequently than they do for DoH classes. Now over a week since I joined the armorer's guild and I've still only received guild marks from one leve. I'd actually be happier with a system where the marks were handed out more frequently and consistently but in smaller amounts than this current system where you don't even know if you're going to get marks at all until you turn in the leve. It makes failing a leve that much more frustrating because you'll never know if that was the one leve that would have given you marks out of all the ones you'll do in the next 14-20 days.

It's entirely random no matter what discipline you are using. For instance, this week i have gotten about 5 leve's that give me MAR guildmarks as a reward. 2 were from Ul'Dah. That's more than i have seen since i started playing. It's too bad that DoH can only get from 1 place though. You lose out on trading in 2 star leves to increase the guildmark rewards. I traded in 4 2star leves from gridania to Ul'Dah where the original reward was 900ish marks. The reward jumped to 1700ish marks.


I understand that it's random. It's just that not only is it random, but you don't even know until the leve is complete and turned in whether or not it had marks to offer as a reward. I always start in LL picking up armorer leves because I seem to get the most there, just like I get the most weaver leves out of Ul'dah. I did 2 rank 20/25 armorer leves today alongside 3 rank 15s (for skill points) and one rank 1 (for lulz). When I hit rank 26, I'll have access to rank 30 leves that I won't be able to complete reliably with the way the crafting system has been nerfed to **** and back which makes them meaningless to me. I can see (hopefully) by about rank 35 that you'll have so many 20+ leves available any given cycle that you'll be able to do 8 leves on one DoH class that all have the potetial to award guild marks. 1-2 every 36 hours makes your chances slim to none.
#8 Oct 17 2010 at 11:39 PM Rating: Decent
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The One and Only Aurelius wrote:
you don't even know until the leve is complete and turned in whether or not it had marks to offer as a reward.


Actually the one and only time I got marks I could see it announced as a reward when selecting the leve.
#9 Oct 18 2010 at 12:29 AM Rating: Good
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Aiwen wrote:
The One and Only Aurelius wrote:
you don't even know until the leve is complete and turned in whether or not it had marks to offer as a reward.


Actually the one and only time I got marks I could see it announced as a reward when selecting the leve.


Not for DoH classes. For DoL and combat classes, you see it when you're selecting the leve. For DoH classes, the marks show up in place of the gil reward, and the gil reward is never shown. For those classes, the reward shown is the materials you get (ie. ingots, hides, whatever).
#10 Oct 18 2010 at 2:44 AM Rating: Decent
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I see, thanks for clarifying!
#11 Oct 18 2010 at 2:58 AM Rating: Decent
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From my experience they just pop totally randomly.
Yea, it is sad.
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