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#1 Oct 18 2010 at 7:01 PM Rating: Good
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I think I may have created a huge problem for myself, and was just wondering if other people are running into the same issue as me.

I started as miner, leveled to 10. Switched to Botanist, leveled to 10. I proceded to get blacksmith, armorer, goldsmith, alchemist all to 10. I am now working on getting carpenter and leatherworker to 10.

As I was leveling, I saved anything that would be useful in making stuff in the future.

Now that I have pretty much all professions to a point where i can start making finished products, I find that I have too much stuff in my inventory. I did not expect how far 4 copper ore could go... to copper nuggets and then to the multitude of other things it can turn into. This is the same for any log, or skin.. etc.

Are crafters just farming the materials they need for the current item they plan to craft, and selling everything else?

I feel bad throwing away all the stuff I have, or vendoring it, but I'm not sure what else to do, as my inventory is full for my retainer and I'm sitting at 70/80 on my character.

Thanks for the help
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#2 Oct 18 2010 at 7:06 PM Rating: Good
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I started off with mining and tailoring, then tried raising my other crafting classes as well. . .and this is the reason i've decided to stop crafting and only stick with mining. . .
there's WAY too much stuff to collect and use, and not enough space to store/bazaar it.

now i put metals in my retainer's bazaar and leave my bazaar for crystals and items that need repairs, and I'm making enough to buy the crafted gear i need

***** crafting and leave it to the die hards imo

*at least until we're given or given the chance to earn more space*

Edited, Oct 18th 2010 9:07pm by leydun
#3 Oct 18 2010 at 10:38 PM Rating: Default
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Wish they'd just make everything stack to 9999 even armor and weapons. What's it matter if I wanna carry around 50 hempen robes? I can still only wear 1 and if it's damage THEN and ONLY THEN make it not stack
#4 Oct 18 2010 at 10:53 PM Rating: Good
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Smelly wrote:
Wish they'd just make everything stack to 9999 even armor and weapons. What's it matter if I wanna carry around 50 hempen robes? I can still only wear 1 and if it's damage THEN and ONLY THEN make it not stack
I think market saturation is the first thing against this sort of implementation.

OP: I started as miner, and leveled goldsmithing and blacksmithing only to process the materials, and in time also alchemy and armorer to help me with the final products.

Now days before mining I pack myself with a variety of crystals and shards to process on the spot whatever I get, at the beginning I was selling stacks of materials (ingots, nuggets) now my crafts are enough to process something more profitable, but the key point for me was the ability to process whatever I get right after it drops on my inventory.

But that's just for mining, I can't imagine what you will require to keep up with botanic as well, I imagine carpentry and weaver will be necessary too.

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#5 Oct 18 2010 at 11:16 PM Rating: Excellent
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Maintaining inventory for miner, botanist, and all but one DoH class has been a major challenge for me since a couple of weeks after CE launch. I'm constantly having to make decisions about what to keep and what to toss. Currently, my retainer is at 80/80, my character is at 78/80 with 10/10 bazaar slots used (including four slots of ludicrously overpriced iron nuggets held for storage unless someone really, really wants to pay 100k each). Tonight I sold or tossed most of the loot from my mining leves and all of the loot from my botany leves never even made it into my bags...I just let it cycle through my loot list and eventually get dropped. If I were to load up on shards and sit down and just synth for a couple of days straight I could probably gain 4-5 ranks on every DoH class just with the materials I have on hand but the problem is that you usually reach a point where one stack of material <a> turns into 2-4 stacks of material <b> and I just don't have the space for it. One extra retainer would make all the difference in the world, but in the meantime I have to be very selective about what I keep and why.
#6 Oct 18 2010 at 11:29 PM Rating: Excellent
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This is a good question, and I've run into the same issues. I have all crafting jobs in the 10-15 range. Not only that, but I carry tools for every DoH and DoL job with me wherever I go, as well as three weapons and a shield. I must look like a pack mule or something.

What I started doing is asking myself, "if I vendor this, how hard would it be to get some more?" If the answer is, "not very hard at all" then go ahead and get rid of it. If you're a Miner/Goldsmither, for example, there's no reason whatsoever to hang on to Limonite and Pyrite because it drops everywhere and often. On the other hand, some things like Iron/Silver Sand you might want to save because they use less Crystals to make nuggets than their counterparts.

Also look at what can be condensed into higher-stack parts. 12 ores take up a slot, but they will typically make only 36/99 nuggets.

I also save room using my bazaar wisely, and make some spare change on the side. Carry around spetches, fents, or nuggets that you need to repair your own equipment in your bazaar and offer them at reasonable prices. When in your bazaar, they free up room in your inventory. When you need them for repairs, take them out and put them back when you're done. Besides, you are actually helping some people out that will gladly pay you 1000 gil for that Dodo Spetch to repair their broken equipment in between Leves.

When away from your retainer, take time out from your harvesting to skill up. Normal/+1/+2/+3 of the same reagent is four slots, but you can often craft them down to one and then vendor the stack later.

I hope that helps a little bit. This will continue to be an issue until they offer extra retainers, shared stash, mail system, backpacks, anything sensible. :p
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#7 Oct 18 2010 at 11:47 PM Rating: Decent
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SE wants you to spend another buck on retainer maybe? :3

#8 Oct 18 2010 at 11:55 PM Rating: Excellent
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BaeF430 wrote:
SE wants you to spend another buck on retainer maybe? :3


i would agree with you except they wont let us.
#9 Oct 19 2010 at 12:06 AM Rating: Good
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gerwenscalebane wrote:
BaeF430 wrote:
SE wants you to spend another buck on retainer maybe? :3


i would agree with you except they wont let us.

Exactly. Which is retarded. At this point in time I'm willing to buy another freaking retainer, but they wont even let me.
Brilliant Idea S/E rearanging the wards but it would be nice if we could have more retainers for the different areas wouldnt it?

Im a pack rat and am lvling multiple crafting jobs and 2 fighing classes. My ratainer is full, im nearly full and ive got obsenely priced items in my bazaar so noone buys them and to free up those 8 spots. I'm tired of picking and chooseing which of my needed mats I am willing to part with all of the time.

I'd purchase another character slot to use as a mule if there was a way to send stuff to it...............

Edited, Oct 19th 2010 2:14am by Faaeng
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#10 Oct 20 2010 at 4:19 PM Rating: Decent
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Thanks for all the replies!

I am currently getting rid of anything that is +1,2,3 etc. I am finding that this is making room in my bags. I'm also getting rid of things like chalk that I made while leveling alchemy, that has no current use.

I hate getting home from work, and spending my entire time playing just managing my inventory, but I guess it is a learning curve that must be overcome to make yourself productive.

This is also SE telling us that if we want to be fully self sufficient, be prepared to make choices on what to keep and what to toss, because there isn't room for all of it!

It is frustrating watching a 12 stack of sheepskin convert into 4 stacks of sheep leather, and then if u want to make anything useful, those each turn into 4 other things. Gah its nuts. But cool all at the same time!

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#11 Oct 20 2010 at 4:21 PM Rating: Excellent
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I can't bring myself to throw away HQ materials. Especially since it gives you a boost in Quality and Durability in crafting. You're much more likely to HQ your synth with HQ materials.
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#12 Oct 20 2010 at 4:44 PM Rating: Good
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I'm also doing something similar, I got my Miner and Botanist passed level 10, and all my crafting classes except for goldsmith and culinarian to at least level 10. The way I manage my inventory is like this:

1. Only keep the mats I'm using for my current crafting class (so let's say I'm going to level up goldsmith for the next two days, then I'll only keep the mats I got for goldsmith) and sell other mats for other crafting classes.

2. Only keep the mats that I would use to level up the current crafting class. (for example, if I'm leveling a weaver, and it's less than rank 10, I would keep all the straws and/or moko grass, depends how many lighting shards I have, I got from harvesting, and vendor all cotton bolls since I can't use it at the current moment anyways)

3. Try to pick ONE item to level your crafting class at a time. (for example, I would only keep straws when my weaver was rank 8, since my Wind attribute was much higher than other elemental attributes and I had way more Wind shards than Lighting shards. When made enough rope belt until it didn't give me good enough SP, I moved onto something else and since then, I would see all the straws I got from harvesting)

4. Do your homework when you're not playing. When you're planning to make new gears for yourself, check out the recipe database here on your free time. Mark down which gear you want to make and what are the mats, then next time you play, you can try to gather those mats and keep them in your inventory until you have enough to make the gear.

Sometimes you may come across some rare mats from harvest or quarry that you don't get it everyday, for example, the dyer's moss from harvest, those you can save them up in your inventory for future use. But things like cotton bolls, straws, moko grasses, feathers, copper ores, and branches, the drop rates are pretty high and you can easily gather them anytime, so don't waste your valuable space to store them.
#13 Oct 20 2010 at 5:25 PM Rating: Default
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I got all DoH DoL to 10 and was able to use everything i gathered 10. Whenever my inv/ret got full I would just craft down my inv. Now I have decided to specialize and my inv is full, especially trying to save for cook as it will be very profitable in the future when we know what food does. I stack normal items, discaard + items as much as it pains me, I have 20 different cooking ingredients on my retainer and not even a full 12 of anything, sigh today i threw out all my dyed leather and straps, wood that is not ash, ore that is not copper or iron...etc. I would sell it but the ui takes too long, easier just to throw it away.
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