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#1 Oct 19 2010 at 4:41 AM Rating: Good
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Just saw this on the Lodestone. Perhaps we have another patch coming.

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The maintenance which was scheduled to occur on all Worlds Oct. 21 from 00:00 to 02:00 will now be conducted at the time below.

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#2 Oct 19 2010 at 4:50 AM Rating: Decent
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9/10 if theres a Maintenance, theres a patch =]
hopefully they will fix some of the issuse with server lag since the past couple of days selbina has been very laggy. ( some people in my ls freezing for a few seconds, others have casting times 3-4 secs longer than what they should have.)
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Auction House!

I can dream...

And I do; I dream about Auction Houses every night. I dream about searching throught a list of items, being able to see how much they cost and how many are available and then being able to buy them there and then. It's kind of like internet shopping, except I don't have to wait for delivery, it's just there in my hand straight away.

Eventually I wake up sweating, with the thought of shopping in an overcrowded market where nobody speaks and you have to open everyone's bags individually to see what they're selling.




Edited, Oct 19th 2010 7:05am by Mince
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#4 Oct 19 2010 at 5:11 AM Rating: Decent
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Auction House!

I can dream...

And I do; I dream about Auction Houses every night. I dream about searching throught a list of items, being able to see how much they cost and how many are available and then being able to buy them there and then. It's kind of like internet shopping, except I don't have to wait for delivery, it's just there in my hand straight away.

Eventually I wake up sweating, with the thought of shopping in an overcrowded market where nobody speaks and you have to open everyone's bags individually to see what they're selling.




Edited, Oct 19th 2010 7:05am by Mince


People need to give up on the fact that there might be an Auction House. SE has stated over and over again they have no plans to EVER put a Auction House function in FFXIV.
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Ap0stle wrote:
Mince wrote:
Auction House!

I can dream...

And I do; I dream about Auction Houses every night. I dream about searching throught a list of items, being able to see how much they cost and how many are available and then being able to buy them there and then. It's kind of like internet shopping, except I don't have to wait for delivery, it's just there in my hand straight away.

Eventually I wake up sweating, with the thought of shopping in an overcrowded market where nobody speaks and you have to open everyone's bags individually to see what they're selling.




Edited, Oct 19th 2010 7:05am by Mince


People need to give up on the fact that there might be an Auction House. SE has stated over and over again they have no plans to EVER put a Auction House function in FFXIV.


If it's a 'fact that there might be an Auction House' why would people give up on it?

Anyway I clearly stated that it was a dream. I just enjoy whining about it.
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They will add a search function, be patient.
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I don't know if this is the patch or not, but someone in my LS mentioned the plan to put in a sorting system for the inventory, or at least something to make the inventory interface cleaner. Sounded like it was going to be soon, so maybe this it?
Would be a wonderful addition. I'm getting into crafting more now and the inventory thing is starting to get to me.
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Ap0stle wrote:
Mince wrote:
Auction House!

I can dream...

And I do; I dream about Auction Houses every night. I dream about searching throught a list of items, being able to see how much they cost and how many are available and then being able to buy them there and then. It's kind of like internet shopping, except I don't have to wait for delivery, it's just there in my hand straight away.

Eventually I wake up sweating, with the thought of shopping in an overcrowded market where nobody speaks and you have to open everyone's bags individually to see what they're selling.




Edited, Oct 19th 2010 7:05am by Mince


People need to give up on the fact that there might be an Auction House. SE has stated over and over again they have no plans to EVER put a Auction House function in FFXIV.


Really? I thought they said that they were not going to implement auction houses this early into the game.
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Jecht2 wrote:
Ap0stle wrote:
Mince wrote:
Auction House!

I can dream...

And I do; I dream about Auction Houses every night. I dream about searching throught a list of items, being able to see how much they cost and how many are available and then being able to buy them there and then. It's kind of like internet shopping, except I don't have to wait for delivery, it's just there in my hand straight away.

Eventually I wake up sweating, with the thought of shopping in an overcrowded market where nobody speaks and you have to open everyone's bags individually to see what they're selling.




Edited, Oct 19th 2010 7:05am by Mince


People need to give up on the fact that there might be an Auction House. SE has stated over and over again they have no plans to EVER put a Auction House function in FFXIV.


Really? I thought they said that they were not going to implement auction houses this early into the game.

So people say they will, others say they wont untill the ps3 version. Untill i see a SE post detailing an AH will be implemented i'm saying no, the search function for retainers will make it a tad bit easier on the wards.
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SE has said they feel the "market battle system" is equivalent to an AH. and they've said they wouldn't have added an AH early in the game cause it would "set prices". That second line leads people to believe that they are going to add one eventually, but it doesn't actually imply that. It implies that SE don't understand how markets work, and intentionally left the player market difficult just 'the AH' wouldn't decide that the price price of sheepskin taupe subligar was 8500.

When this game hit shelves, i'm sure they had zero plans of ever putting in an Auction House. But i doubt they had plans to give us another free month too. Saying it will never happen is silly. If they felt it would net them 50k subs they'd put one in.
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I'd like to see them get additional retainers in with this maintenance, but I know it's not going to happen. We wont get those until December, according to the game's Director.

Hey, maybe Chocobos/airships. They haven't said anything about them since the game launched.

But... more than likely it will just be a list of tweaks and minor bug fixes. They're saving the good stuff for November, December, and PS3 release.
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Items and drops are very easy to come by in FFXIV as compared to FFXI. I bet if they do add an AH they will decrease the drop rate on everything to compensate for the flooded market and general lack of value having a million "whatevers" on the AH will create.
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Marketplace can be made into a less crowded yet fully functional AH rather easily, there is no need to make a 180 and abandon the system for an AH. It means, of course, that they have done a lot useless work that is never going to be used, but that's just something they have to accept and move on.

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Ap0stle wrote:
Mince wrote:
Auction House!

I can dream...

And I do; I dream about Auction Houses every night. I dream about searching throught a list of items, being able to see how much they cost and how many are available and then being able to buy them there and then. It's kind of like internet shopping, except I don't have to wait for delivery, it's just there in my hand straight away.

Eventually I wake up sweating, with the thought of shopping in an overcrowded market where nobody speaks and you have to open everyone's bags individually to see what they're selling.




Edited, Oct 19th 2010 7:05am by Mince


People need to give up on the fact that there might be an Auction House. SE has stated over and over again they have no plans to EVER put a Auction House function in FFXIV.


And yet this is mentioned in the manual.
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Hey, maybe Chocobos/airships. They haven't said anything about them since the game launched.

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But... more than likely it will just be a list of tweaks and minor bug fixes. They're saving the good stuff for November, December, and PS3 release.


I agree with that. We'll hopefully see some bugfixes and maybe some minor tweaks, but nothing too major. Either way, every patch has the potential to be exciting. =P
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Another maintenance? Oh god, what are they going to ninja patch THIS time?

Getting old.
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There are auction houses in FFXIV. They are not operational, but you can find them in towns right now.

But I highly doubt they will be implemented this maintenance. I'm kind of masochistic, I like the market wards~

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Not sure if you're just being silly or not, but for clarity that's referring to items obtained through item codes (ie. Onion Helm, Asuran Armguards, etc.) and the "auction" they're referring to would be things like eBay. Obviously you can't sell bound gear in-game, auction house or not.
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Another maintenance? Oh god, what are they going to ninja patch THIS time?

Getting old.

wtf does that mean? lol

why would you be so negative about maintenance that may potentially fix some bugs? What have they "ninja patched" that didn't need to be patched?

I don't really think there's been an unacceptable amount of maintenance for a game this new... ****, Wow has maintenance almost every Tuesday (please excuse the comparison to Wow :P )



not sure why you'd get upset about a maintenance and possible patch...unless you think the game is fine as is?
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Another maintenance? Oh god, what are they going to ninja patch THIS time?

Getting old.

wtf does that mean? lol

why would you be so negative about maintenance that may potentially fix some bugs? What have they "ninja patched" that didn't need to be patched?

I don't really think there's been an unacceptable amount of maintenance for a game this new... ****, Wow has maintenance almost every Tuesday (please excuse the comparison to Wow :P )

not sure why you'd get upset about a maintenance and possible patch...unless you think the game is fine as is?


They appear to have nerfed crafting with every maintenance since launch. They even broke crafting when they did the patch that nerfed Rapid Synthesis and had to do another maintenance two or so days later to fix it. It's not the changes most people seem to mind...it's that they make the changes and then leave players to blow up all kinds of mats before they figure out it has been nerfed.
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They appear to have nerfed crafting with every maintenance since launch.


But I hear they also boosted Ridill drop rate, my friends dogs LS got 2 in a row last week.
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Not sure if you're just being silly or not, but for clarity that's referring to items obtained through item codes (ie. Onion Helm, Asuran Armguards, etc.) and the "auction" they're referring to would be things like eBay. Obviously you can't sell bound gear in-game, auction house or not.


Uh no. Everything mentioned there is in-game terms. SE uses a ton of legal terms (you have to, just "auction" would never hold up in court. Plus if it was real auctions, it'd say see the ToS for more details etc) when they want to say something like "do not eBay in-game items" and that is covered in the ToS.
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Not sure if you're just being silly or not, but for clarity that's referring to items obtained through item codes (ie. Onion Helm, Asuran Armguards, etc.) and the "auction" they're referring to would be things like eBay. Obviously you can't sell bound gear in-game, auction house or not.


Uh no. Everything mentioned there is in-game terms. SE uses a ton of legal terms (you have to, just "auction" would never hold up in court. Plus if it was real auctions, it'd say see the ToS for more details etc) when they want to say something like "do not eBay in-game items" and that is covered in the ToS.


I still think you're reaching. This reads as offline auctions instead of indicating an in-game auction. The items are marked unique and untradeable anyway, so you wouldn't be able to sell them to another player in game even if you wanted to.
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Not sure if you're just being silly or not, but for clarity that's referring to items obtained through item codes (ie. Onion Helm, Asuran Armguards, etc.) and the "auction" they're referring to would be things like eBay. Obviously you can't sell bound gear in-game, auction house or not.


Uh no. Everything mentioned there is in-game terms. SE uses a ton of legal terms (you have to, just "auction" would never hold up in court. Plus if it was real auctions, it'd say see the ToS for more details etc) when they want to say something like "do not eBay in-game items" and that is covered in the ToS.


I still think you're reaching. This reads as offline auctions instead of indicating an in-game auction. The items are marked unique and untradeable anyway, so you wouldn't be able to sell them to another player in game even if you wanted to.


Yeah but it also says "or the delivery service".... which suggests in game. I'm pretty sure this is referring to in game auctions and delivery systems (neither of which exist lol)


but......it's a moot argument since none of us KNOW wtf it means. =P
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I think your both reaching with the fine print generated by lawyers who did nothing more than pull those terms from a ready made template dating back to FFXI.

TOS fine print is reaching. If the instruction manual had a section on using the AH that would be quite another.
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Wint wrote:
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Not sure if you're just being silly or not, but for clarity that's referring to items obtained through item codes (ie. Onion Helm, Asuran Armguards, etc.) and the "auction" they're referring to would be things like eBay. Obviously you can't sell bound gear in-game, auction house or not.


Uh no. Everything mentioned there is in-game terms. SE uses a ton of legal terms (you have to, just "auction" would never hold up in court. Plus if it was real auctions, it'd say see the ToS for more details etc) when they want to say something like "do not eBay in-game items" and that is covered in the ToS.


I still think you're reaching. This reads as offline auctions instead of indicating an in-game auction. The items are marked unique and untradeable anyway, so you wouldn't be able to sell them to another player in game even if you wanted to.


Two out of the three terms there are in-game, and one isn't even in the game yet. Logical conclusion to me is that "auction" is also an in-game term.
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Its a huge stretch to think that its referring to anything out of game. If the point was to not allow it to be traded outside, it would say that the code was non-transferable to other users or something like that. Auction does not refer to ebay, and delivery service is not referring to UPS.


However, just because its mentioned there, does not mean they are actually planning to have an AH.
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Maybe they'll fix a few broken recipes. . .
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Things not mentioned for the Nov/Dec updates that might be "fixed" sooner:

- Player search function
- The ability to check bazaars while moving

Both of these things would be enjoyed very much by me.
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-An issue where synthesis would result in increased experience points gain has been addressed.
-Under certain circumstances members of the bat family would appear to have increased movement, this has been adjusted.
-Leves offering guild points for classes that are not the main class of a character would occasionally be offered. This will no longer happen.
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Nice to see the updates coming thick and fast.
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-An issue where synthesis would result in increased experience points gain has been addressed.
-Under certain circumstances members of the bat family would appear to have increased movement, this has been adjusted.
-Leves offering guild points for classes that are not the main class of a character would occasionally be offered. This will no longer happen.


I'm still surprised that I can get close to 2000 exp per synthesis success on my low rank crafting professions. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they lower this. Or at` least compare the recipe level to your physical level instead of rank level when awarding exp. While I'm not complaining about the huge chunks of exp, it just doesn't seem to be right.
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If it's a 'fact that there might be an Auction House' why would people give up on it?

Anyway I clearly stated that it was a dream.


Yeah, stop ragging on his dreams, man!
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Nice to see the updates coming thick and fast.


That's what she -- nah, never mind.
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I predict this update will bring.. more emotes and fixing the occasional graphics glitches. Gotta stay in line with what their players want after all.
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I don't know if this is the patch or not, but someone in my LS mentioned the plan to put in a sorting system for the inventory, or at least something to make the inventory interface cleaner. Sounded like it was going to be soon, so maybe this it?
Would be a wonderful addition. I'm getting into crafting more now and the inventory thing is starting to get to me.

Inventorysorting will be coming in the late november. Maybe you want to read that:
http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com/pl/topics/detail?id=c07a85c2f170a53057f5a39f56e6fc02b03b1184

and that:
http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com/pl/topics/detail?id=f2cf790e548828eb22d3c4dff5f04bf0793632b5

Pretty big news, can't belive there's a player that hasn't heard of it yet. :O

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People need to give up on the fact that there might be an Auction House. SE has stated over and over again they have no plans to EVER put a Auction House function in FFXIV.
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No AH = epic fail...and I'm sure they don't want that. They'll add and AH. They better or even the fanbois and whirlygirls will eventually give up too.
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People need to give up on the fact that there might be an Auction House. SE has stated over and over again they have no plans to EVER put a Auction House function in FFXIV.


They didn't say they won't EVER put in an AH. In fact they said this:

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Regarding Final Fantasy XIV and the market battle system is something we would like to consider the equilevent to the auction house we had in Final Fantasy XI. Only that you'll also be able to fix your equipment and things like that. It is something we really want people to enjoy. Also after the release of the game we will see how it goes and for example find out what kind of search options players will want and need and improve the situation. We don't really want to introduce the auctionhouse from the beginning because that is going to determine the economy system. So we want to improve it slowly and adjust it accordingly.


Source: http://www.ffxivcore.com/topic/11066-gamescom-2010-coverage/

That seems to imply that they want to see how things go and let the economy develop organically before they implement the Auction House.
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Another maintenance? Oh god, what are they going to ninja patch THIS time?

Getting old.



Yeah, you're right. They shouldn't patch anything, the game should stay as it is forever.

How can maint/patching already be old? The game's, what? A couple weeks old? Go take a walk man.
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If they had now decided to add an AH they would not be trying to fix the market ward system, they have far too much to work on already aside from something they were planning to make obselete. They might add an ah one day but they sure don't want to currently, the search system is whats coming.

This Square dev team are amazingly stubborn they were the same on FFXI and the game only started changing when they left to work on this, they will let the game die before they are forced into making changes they don't agree with.
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There isn't any info atm so we all can -assume- anything really... If anything, they would just fix the server lag issues... unless it's just me.
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SE's resistance for NOT adding AH is crazy to say the least. Market Wards is simply inefficient and a big time sink for players who need to find anything useful. Assuming we still need to physically locate the retainer and open each bazaar, adding a search function can only relief some of the problem but still leaving it inefficient. Add server lag and that makes finding anything in market wards a painful experience. So SE wants players to pay monthly fee and be frustrated playing the game? What a refreshing concept!

Adding another free month doesn't mean much unless they think they can fixed the issues within that time frame. I would have been happier waiting an extra year and let Japan only release workout all the problems. IMHO, we basically paid full price for a beta game.

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Aside from the jokers and dreamers, we can stop demanding an Auction House already. A working AH would make the Market Wards pointless and I don't see SE undoing a "major" part of the game just for that. Depending upon how the upcoming search function in the Wards works it'll be like a makeshift Auction House anyway. Just instead of standing in front of a boring laggy building you get to run through boring laggy hallways.

On the off chance that they do implement an "auction house" I highly doubt it'll be anything like what you would find in FFXI, WoW, or any other MMO that had some kind of auction system since again it would just make the current Retainer system's intended purpose completely obsolete.
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How does adding an AH render retainer and market wards useless??? Why not shift all HQ items to market wards only or restrict extremely high price items there? There are plenty of solutions for both system to co-exist.
#48 Oct 20 2010 at 5:38 AM Rating: Good
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I agree that a hybrid solution would be nice. All ingredient type items could be sold on AH, and the retainers could be used just for finished products. It would certainly declutter the wards and not cause situations where you are holding tons of expensive crafting ingredients while you spend days of playtime running around trying to find undyed canvas or something like that.

The lack of ability for crafters to find ingredients is stifling the economy. My crafting would be so much more productive if I could just go buy what I needed instead of begging for someone to make it, or get completely frustrated with the game every time I think I need to levle a new craft from 1 t o30 just ot make a single ingredient I need.
#49 Oct 20 2010 at 6:16 AM Rating: Good
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Hmm... a random thought came to me...
For an AH, wouldn't we want to have a mail system in place first? (I guess it could work using an AH storage box instead... but I'm used to the WoW model.)

So by that logic, we'd need to see mail before AH.

Personally I think bazaars would work better if they weren't instanced like they are currently, but instead phased/held on a linked server for market areas on the main map. (sort of like how they link areas together right now, but smaller pockets).
Space would be limited per area and rented for 3 days at a time (more expensive at camps), but you would be allowed to summon your retainer. Tax for sales would be removed from retainer sales.
Throw a zone wide search in (or camp wide) and Bob's your uncle (before the gender change).

Also would also like to see themed market wards if they kept them, so that they didn't feel so depressing.
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#50 Oct 20 2010 at 6:38 AM Rating: Decent
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Eldonia wrote:
not sure why you'd get upset about a maintenance and possible patch...
Because logging in to discover "SURPRISE! Your character is now 33% less Accurate!" Or "GOTCHA! Every synth you attempt now fails!" Or "HEY GUESS WHAT?! Your armor now degrades 5x as quickly!" is old.

I remember FFXI. Do you?

papajay wrote:
How can maint/patching already be old?
As stated above, I remember FFXI. Ultimately, this is no different.


Edited, Oct 20th 2010 12:39pm by Timorith
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#51 Oct 20 2010 at 6:47 AM Rating: Good
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Timorith wrote:
Eldonia wrote:
not sure why you'd get upset about a maintenance and possible patch...
Because logging in to discover "SURPRISE! Your character is now 33% less Accurate!" Or "GOTCHA! Every synth you attempt now fails!" Or "HEY GUESS WHAT?! Your armor now degrades 5x as quickly!" is old.

I remember FFXI. Do you?

papajay wrote:
How can maint/patching already be old?
As stated above, I remember FFXI. Ultimately, this is no different.


Edited, Oct 20th 2010 12:39pm by Timorith


I remember this occurring a few times early in the game to balance a few way out of proportion things (like the cure thing just a couple weeks ago). Then I remember them switching instead to balancing jobs positively by adding abilities and such to the other jobs.
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