It's more funny than anything to me, especially when you keep saying that they "finished" the game. Thats like saying someone finished the internet.
I did not say they finished the game. I said they said the finished the game. Which means usually means that they did all they care to do in the game.
But you said something along the lines of, "anyone with half a brain can play WoW". And you have 0 experience with it.
Which is why I expressly said I had no experience with it. But if they can believe they "finished" the game, and they would never make such claim on FFXI, it is a deduction. I may even be wrong, which is why I always expressly said my reasons.
Maybe you can do some more reading and see where I said I like FFXI better than WoW.
Not sure when did I ever say WoW is worse than FFXI, or FFXI is better. My answer to the OP's question is that you guys are overthinking what difficult means. Of everyone can do it then its easy, if no one can do it, then its impossible. Thus I said WoW is easier because more people I know have "finished" it than FFXI.
Finish is a bad definition, maybe I should say - done all they care to do with it.
I never played WoW, but some of you have mentioned osmething about Heroic? and asked if people did Heroic since that means WoW is harder. So I assume Heroic is an optional thing? Well if FFXI added achievement for killing shadowlord nakked with a rusty dagger - would that mean FFXI is harder? You cannot compare a special mode made for challenge as regular game play. That is a flawed logic.
So I guess if SE added a level cap mechanism for Dynamis that caps you at level 10 that would make "FFXI OMGZ HARDEST GAME EVER!!!?" It wouldn't. It just means FFXI added a fuction to make the game more difficult for those who want additional
difficulty. It doesn't make the game inherently more difficult.
Of course I might just be wrong and Heroic is the default difficulty, then I apologize for making a wrong deduction/assumption.
I never judged any of your precious online "friends" as people, but if someone can't do a merit pt in FFXI they arent good at playing video games. Thats just an observation. So if they say they "finished WoW" I am guessing they leveled their chars to whatever the max was at the time and considered the game beat.
Probably that is what they did. I had zero interest in WoW, or EndGame for that matter, so I didn't bother asking them what is Endgame like.
I apologize for getting defensive and assumed you were insulting my friend's. They are ok FFXI players, just they are not upto par to my standards for MeriPo (which is what I said originally as well). Their understanding of hate control and such is lacking.
Btw these "friends" leave WoW and just move over to a meripo in FFXI? Did they buy ebay characters or something?
Nah, they left FFXI to do WoW when it came out. Came back after about 6 month to a year. So that is before all the WoW Expansions (IIRC).
You can bash wow all you want, but its not as easy as they claim, if they completed heroic ICC 10 or 25, then I can understand. but saying its hard to meripo, you have to be bad lol, if you haven't grasped party dynamics by the time you hit 75 (I left before abssea) then someone needs to have a talk and coaching session with you on meripo 101. healers are the only job that are a bit stressed in meripo's in my opinion.
Which is the basis of why I think WoW is easier. Meripo is probably some of the easiest thing to do in FFXI. But my friends did not meet the expectation I have for it. I said in other replies that
Considering anyone with half a brain can do WoW, and not everyone can do FFXI, FFXI is harder. I have friends who finished WoW (or so they say) but cannot do merit party (meeting my approval) in FFXI if their life depended on it.
But when they tried to Merit with me in FFXI they simply as not very good. Ineffecient, can't manage mp, can't seems to get party dynamics.
They are very rigid in their tactics. They seems to lack the ability to adapt to changing situations. They seems lack understanding of aggro control and party dynamics. Things like healing themselves when they would have been fine instead of waiting for the 2ndary tank to provoke the link/2nd pull off them, etc. Which is why I believe they are not very good at FFXI.
The rest of the logic is explained above in the reply to KristoFurwalken
Curse you quote tags!!! Edited, Oct 25th 2010 10:34am by JamesX