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#1 Oct 22 2010 at 3:33 AM Rating: Good
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Today is the 22nd, which makes it one month since the CE release.

If not for the extended free play, today would be the day that a lot of our accounts would require a subscription to be added, or they would be closed at 11:59PM.

Thanks to the extended free play we will still be playing into November, but I'm curious... if SE had not given us another free month, would you have added a subscription to keep your account open? Or would you let your account run out and close?

If someone could add a poll with the 2 options that'd be great. I'm really interested in seeing how this day could have played out.
#2 Oct 22 2010 at 4:00 AM Rating: Default
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I would've let my subscription expire. I've done all there is to do in this game so far (grinding classes).

I'd still float around the forums though. There's no way I'm done criticizing this game for the disappointment it's become.
#3 Oct 22 2010 at 6:53 AM Rating: Good
If Square Enix Hadn't Given Us an Extra Free Month, Would You Have Kept Your Subscription Open or Let it Expire?
I would have renewed my subscription all the same.:220 (48.7%)
I would have let my subscription expire.:232 (51.3%)
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There ya go :)

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#4 Oct 22 2010 at 6:58 AM Rating: Good
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Wouldn't be going anywhere. Content is being added, areas opening up just begging for exploration and I can do it without anyone with me. SE has gotten my support simply because of them listening to the criticisms.
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I would have let it expired. I'm sure I'll get bomed but last night I installed on my brand new shiny super -mid- level DIY computer with nothing but windows and ffxiv on it, that I only got for ffxiv, with one of the "other" MMOs I've been playing throughout the years.

I was litteraly waiting to see what was fixed/broke with the patch before I actually gave out my CCN. When I read it this morning all I could think was.....thats it? I'll keep on playing because its free for now and my other frineds are still playing, but I'm going to re-sub something else for my fix. I want to keep going but its getting tedious to all of people I know, not just me.

#6 Oct 22 2010 at 7:11 AM Rating: Decent
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I would have let it expired. I'm sure I'll get bomed but last night I installed on my brand new shiny super -mid- level DIY computer with nothing but windows and ffxiv on it, that I only got for ffxiv, with one of the "other" MMOs I've been playing throughout the years.

I was litteraly waiting to see what was fixed/broke with the patch before I actually gave out my CCN. When I read it this morning all I could think was.....thats it? I'll keep on playing because its free for now and my other frineds are still playing, but I'm going to re-sub something else for my fix. I want to keep going but its getting tedious to all of people I know, not just me.



Well try back next year maybe. A lot will be fixed by then, or maybe try back when they release the first expansion, I'm sure the game will be much, much better received by then, and far more enjoyable for everyone.
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#7 Oct 22 2010 at 7:14 AM Rating: Decent
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I would have given them exactly one paid month to make the game release-quality. That is still my policy.
#8 Oct 22 2010 at 7:29 AM Rating: Good
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As much as I hate to say it, because I was hyping this game up to a couple friends, I would probably cancel my subscription, the game is just not fun for me, 80% of the time.
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#9 Oct 22 2010 at 8:21 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'd be sticking around a while longer, either way.

Look, I have been very critical of this game. Square-Enix didn't only ***** up the launch, it alienated its player base and released a game that has fundamental flaws in its design that cannot all be corrected by slapping a few patches over it. I don't care if you think FFXIV is the best game ever made and that the public at large is to unrefined to see its good points - there is still no denying that this game has been met with cautious optimism of the future at best, widespread derision at worst. The jury is out from reviewers and the general public alike, and the verdict couldn't be worse: most people find the game to be not a whole lot of fun.

So why am I still playing?

For a couple reasons, I guess. The first is easier to explain. I didn't start FFXI until the PS2 release, as the computer I had wouldn't run it. By all accounts, the FFXI that I started with was light-years ahead of what the Japanese PC players started out with. That alone gives me some hope that all is not lost. Its disappointing that they regressed from current-day FFXI, yes, but there's hope all the same. I didn't get a chance to see FFXI evolve in those early days. It's kind of interesting to me to watch it unfold now.

The second reason is difficult to explain if you're not at least in your late twenties (and I'm older than that). I've been playing Square and Enix games since high school, for over twenty years. The Final Fantasy series, Dragon Quest, Chrono Trigger, Act Raiser and Soul Blazer, Secret of Mana, dang it I could go on forever. These are the games I most loved. I connect them to a much more carefree time when I was younger, slimmer, and the most stressful things in life didn't involve struggling with a mortgage, or a rocky marriage, or raising teenage children but rather who you were going to hang out with after school and getting your homework done.

My practical side tells me that I owe Square-Enix nothing. No one does. Yet, because this company has given me so much enjoyment in the past, and because they went through the same growing pains with their last MMO, where I would not have given most companies a bit more time, with Square-Enix I will. Because I really want this to succeed. The game is not unsalvageable, and hopefully its poor reception was enough of a rude awakening to them to see that things get corrected in a timely manner.

That doesn't mean I will stop my criticism of FFXIV, though. It's much like being a good friend, or a good parent. When you see that someone you love is being self-destructive, it is your duty to constructively help them face the problem and correct it. People who do not really care about you will not do this. Those types of people will let you drive yourself right into oblivion and merely detach themselves when you have no further use to them. In the same manner, I am sticking around and I will yell from the rooftops until certain things get fixed. Because if they're not fixed, they will have far worse things to worry about than Shassa quitting FFXIV.
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#10 Oct 22 2010 at 8:25 AM Rating: Decent
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the game still needs alot of work but i look at it this way. in the month its been out how much have they already fixed? quite a bit. seems like there going with the more impacting problems 1st and working there way from there.
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#11 Oct 22 2010 at 8:30 AM Rating: Decent
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Let it expire.
SE just bought themselves 4 extra weeks (up to total of 6) to fix bugs, deal with lag, retarded ui and almost total lack of content.
If they manage to show themselves serious about fixing things, and capable of doing so (and smart enough to recognise what needs to be fixed, wich due to the retarded design choices they have made until now is by no means certain), i will probably give them one paid month more on top of it, but after that they really need have gotten their act together.
#12 Oct 22 2010 at 8:35 AM Rating: Good
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I would have probably let it expire for now, and then come back once they had put more content in and fixed some of the bugs. I will say the same thing on November 22. If the game hasn't improved in the UI lag and party mechanics departments, I will be cancelling my subscription until such a time that SE mans up and gets the game up to par. I'm not asking for miracles, just fixes that should have been in the game at launch.
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#13 Oct 22 2010 at 8:45 AM Rating: Good
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I'd have subscribed. Despite all the many things that do annoy me in this game, it hasn't completely aggravated me and I've found a lot I do enjoy. Even without the extra free play I would still have subscribed, for as long as the game remained interesting because I want to see where it will go. Whatever you want to say about how the launch has gone and what should have been done etc etc, the game is still very new. I'll give it a few months before I'd decide it's not worth investing in. I'm enjoying myself so far.
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#14 Oct 22 2010 at 8:55 AM Rating: Good
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Well I never, didn't realise (Square)Enix published ActRaiser! One of my favorite games that.

On to the subject. Personally I was ready to let my account go on hold for a month or two. The game looks fab, there is suggestive hints at a deep plot, the battle system in essence is great. So why knock it on the head? There is no content as far as I am concerned. I don't feel that Eorzia is a living breathing world. It all feels very, I dunno, cardboard and wooden. Like those wild west stores that are tall and fancy but hiding behind is the same shanty shack as the rest of the town.

So playability and bugs aside, in terms of an actual game there isnt much to be had really. I am sure a lot of people are content with what is offered but I find myself becoming bored relatively quickly with it these days, although I am sure that is because I am effectively playing a very similar game to what was presented to me back in March for the Alpha. I can see XIV being fantastic in the future once it has had time to mature and grow. Right now though, I just don't feel like logging in, even with the free time available.
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#15 Oct 22 2010 at 9:14 AM Rating: Good
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a few weeks ago I was dead set that I would give SE one paid month before I canceled. Changed my mind, this game won't get another penny of my money until it resembles something i want to spend my time on.
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Two nights ago I decided it was time to clear my inventory of all the stuff I'd been hording for crafting. I took out my 8 stacks of cotton bolls and got to work. >3 hours later I was almost out of lightning crystals and had a ton of cotton thread. Still a lot of cotton bolls left too. I have about 10 crystals left, but I was tired of doing it and still need to make all of it into cloth, then to armor parts, then armor. Hours and hours of work ahead.

It wasn't any fun, but was something I felt I had to do. It wouldn't have been so bad were the UI a bit more streamlined so that I didn't have to confirm crafting multiple times and re-select mats manually scrolling through my inventory each time. I don't mind the mini-game; at times it can be interesting, but when sitting down to do the same craft for such a long period of time I would rather there be a repeat button so I could watch a movie or something while hitting "Standard" over and over. I got burned out by doing so much "work". By the end of the night, even though I had to a large degree achieved my goal of using my cotton bolls, I don't feel like I played a game. I didn't have any fun.

So last night was going to be fun time. I logged in to do a bit of crafting and finish up my rank 20 leaves before the reset. I am a 17 (very close to 18) conj, but do the rank 20s on one star. I did the first one and steamrolled it. I wished I'd done it on 3 stars. The mobs literally died from one AoE nuke in groups of 3. It rewarded 1200 conj guild points. Was over in less than 4 minutes.

I started my second one. Crabs. Also on one star. I died 4 times. Bind wouldn't stick. Nukes were resisted. Crabs wandered off and healed. Ended up abandoning it. It would have rewarded 1000 conj guild points. I logged off for what will be the last time until I hear of some major changes.

Not just the things I mentioned here, but things mentioned in every complaint post.

I really, really want to like this game. I do like a lot of things about it. It's just not enjoyable in the current state. I have over a million gil and several crafts in the mid-teens. If I do come back, I won't be in bad shape unless there's a lot of inflation. I'll be paying attention to the forums and hoping that things improve, but last night was the final straw for me.

I know that we've been told fixes are coming. I'm not going to stick around and wait for the game to be what it should have been at launch. In January, I'll give it another go. No, you can't have my stuff.

To all of you sticking it out, best of luck! Perhaps I'll see you in a few months.
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#18 Oct 22 2010 at 9:20 AM Rating: Decent
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I canceled my subscription a few days ago. This game is not fun to me in its current form and the free month does nothing to change this. Right now I'm enjoying my time over in WoW with the beefy computer I bought for FFXIV. I had never played WoW until FFXIV pushed me over the edge with its grind fest and lack of things to actually do. I really hope this game gets better for you guys willing to stick it out. I just think SE is going to be breaking a lot of hearts later down the road.
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#19 Oct 22 2010 at 9:38 AM Rating: Decent
My main reason for continuing to subscribe is there is nothing else out there that captures my interest, and I do enjoy FFXIV, even though some things about it do bug me at times as well. I also don't see anything coming out until 2011 that is going to interest me. GW2 doesn't excite me at all. The Old Republic just looks like Star Wars version of WoW. It's Neverwinter that really has me excited, and I don't think that's technically even an MMO, though when it does come out it will probably get me playing it, especially if the user content creation is decent.

But yeah, despite the flaws in it's current state, for me FFXIV is the best overall MMORPG on the market for what I'm looking for, and that's why I play it.


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#20 Oct 22 2010 at 10:26 AM Rating: Decent
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Without the free extra month I think there's a good chance I'd let my subscription expire. The only thing that would have kept me playing at that point was the fact that there's no good way for me to transfer leadership of my LS.

The free month helps a lot though...should give me time to see some new content and fixes roll in.

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#21 Oct 22 2010 at 10:53 AM Rating: Excellent
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To be honest it has been 2-3 weeks since I have even logged in. That said I am in for the long haul and am hoping for the best over the next several months. As fixes are implemented I'll probably start playing regularly again. For now I'm in no rush nor do a feel a need to grin to level cap as fast as possible. I'd rather wait for the game to come together a bit more and enjoy it at my pace.
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#22 Oct 22 2010 at 10:56 AM Rating: Good
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I would have let it expire. I set my account to use Crysta since you don't actually have to buy any right away, and let me hold off putting any CC info in.

I still feel that way too. I see what's coming, and I think it will help, but I don't think it will be enough to turn me into a paying customer.

I think the game can become great, given time, but I'm not willing to pay money to spin my wheels while I wait for it to happen. I really hate time sinks that don't provide progress, for example travel time. 30 minutes to get from one city to another? 10 minutes to get to a camp for 15 minutes of levequest, then another 10 minute walk back to town? Bleh... Can only teleport once a day without having a net loss of Anima.

Don't even mention the market wards...

Crafting is a chore, grinding out the same thing 55+ times in a row for one rank, and that's only at Rank 14 let alone getting any higher ranks where you get the same SP/synth but the to next rank amount goes up each time.

Unless something miraculous happens I won't be continuing for the near future. Maybe after awhile, like February or March, whenever their next content update is (They said every 3 months in their posts, and December is the next one). If they activated the chocobos that alone would boost my spirits a lot by greatly cutting travel times down, or even an airship ride between cities.
#23 Oct 22 2010 at 11:10 AM Rating: Good
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I am having fun :) but my schedule now days is not the same as when I was playing FFXI. I can't no longer play for 8 hours a day, so I am digesting the contents slower than some of you.

I already paid for 6 month worth. Don't regret a cent of it. I get to hang out with old friends and do in game things again. The entire 6 month of FFXIV cost less than 1 lunch out with friends - so, to me, it is money well spent.

I can understand if you are a hard core MMORPGer whose goal is to grind to level cap and have phat loot and lord it over other people then the game is probably not fun.

I kinda hope those kind of people quit the game though, it is no fun to play with most of them. I avoided them in FFXI (didn't join any HNMLS) and I think my FFXI experience was more positive for it.

Here is hoping FFXIV is the same or better :)

And to those who are quitting, good luck on your future endeavors. Hope you find a game you enjoy rather than one that gives you high blood pressure.

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#24 Oct 22 2010 at 11:10 AM Rating: Good
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Will end my account if SP gain was not fixed by the end of the free month

Actually it would have ended already if SE didn't extend the free trial.
#25 Oct 22 2010 at 11:26 AM Rating: Good
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The second reason is difficult to explain if you're not at least in your late twenties (and I'm older than that). I've been playing Square and Enix games since high school, for over twenty years. The Final Fantasy series, Dragon Quest, Chrono Trigger, Act Raiser and Soul Blazer, Secret of Mana, dang it I could go on forever. These are the games I most loved.


I really liked your post rate up to you sir.Even though i have not been playing as long as you,i have been playing and enjoying SE games for a very long time.And i understand the other side the people that are just fed up with all the problems of FF XIV and are already cancelling there accounts.But i to feel a sense of loyalty to the company that has brought me so much fun in the past.And i really do believe at some point they will get there act together and put out a game to the standard we all expected.
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Expire. I'm learning to deal with some of the annoyances (especially targeting and retainers)... ignoring the crafting system altogether (which is a relief)... but it still isn't enough. Haven't reached the point where the leves have become repetitious, but I'm assuming that by the end of the 2 months, it'll become more like a chore than anything else.

Secondly, I think it'll be a long while til we see "fun" changes. But that's just me. Hopefully GW2 will be out soon enough.
#27 Oct 22 2010 at 11:30 AM Rating: Good
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Since I canceled my sub last week, I'm still compelled to lurk here almost every day. Not sure, but I think I keep hoping for giant threads titled "SE added an auction house!" or "FFXIV haz mail!" or "SE made repairs less insane!" or "You don't HAVE to craft everything now!"
(Never mind the lag, UI, and multitudes of minor issues.)

I looked forward to this game for years, was floored when I got into the alpha. Spent a lot of money on my pc, got the CE, and after installing and playing for a while I realized it wasn't a game yet.
I think you should have added a third option in your poll. "I've already cancelled and am going to wait and see what SE fixes."
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#28 Oct 22 2010 at 11:31 AM Rating: Decent
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Its only 13 bucks and I really have no where else to go. I'm hoping for the best and if it does fail...I'll know I at least gave it a chance. Being an "older" gamer has mellowed me out and I have a better understanding that business decisions go bad everyday...and the ones trying to fix it are not usually at fault. They deserve a chance to correct someone else's mistakes.
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I would have let it expired. I'm sure I'll get bomed but last night I installed on my brand new shiny super -mid- level DIY computer with nothing but windows and ffxiv on it, that I only got for ffxiv, with one of the "other" MMOs I've been playing throughout the years.

I was litteraly waiting to see what was fixed/broke with the patch before I actually gave out my CCN. When I read it this morning all I could think was.....thats it? I'll keep on playing because its free for now and my other frineds are still playing, but I'm going to re-sub something else for my fix. I want to keep going but its getting tedious to all of people I know, not just me.


You know they have a list of exactly what they are adding and fixing and when they are adding it and fixing it. If you would actually read the released info this wouldn't be so hard
#30 Oct 22 2010 at 11:57 AM Rating: Decent
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Me and lots of people I know in-game are having a great time. Me and my bro already paid for 6 months before the extra free month was announced. Good times and it's only going to get better.
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#31 Oct 22 2010 at 12:20 PM Rating: Good
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I would have subbed and still plan to after this trial is over.

Right now, the game has a whole bunch of issues for me. However, it seems that the November/December updates will fix a decent amount of them. Even though progress is slow, it's still progress enough to warrant me sticking around. My general policy regarding new MMOs is to give them a 3 month grace period. Meaning, that I believe that 3 months is more than enough time for them to fix initial launch issues as well as get a good idea as to where the dev team wants to go with the game. I did the same for games such as AoC, CO, and STO. Sadly, none of those games met my personal standards after the 3 month period. I didn't believe that they had a solid enough foundation for their dev teams to build upon.

FFXIV right now has what I believe to be a good foundation. The battle system is fun and the crafting is addictive. The story line seems to be pretty decent as well. Now, that foundation does have some cracks in it such as the UI, no mail system, lack of LS functions, ease of travel (airships, chocobos), no inventory sort, etc. Personal gripes such as not being able to access my retainer when she is selling in the wards (I can teleport all over the world, why can't she?) might not be addressed, but hey, I can dream.

Now, those cracks can be filled in by SE and I think giving them 3 months to do so is plenty of time. Once they fill in those cracks, they can then build the rest of the game on the foundation they have. They key for me sticking around is if I can see that they will attempt to fill in those cracks and then get some sense of where they want to go with the game after they do. If I like the direction they want to take the game, then I will stick around. If I don't, then I won't. It's really as simple as that for me. However, I do hope that they take the game in a direction that I like. I really do want to play this game. I can only hope that SE doesn't mess up like the other games I mentioned earlier.

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#32 Oct 22 2010 at 12:28 PM Rating: Decent
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I already purchased 6 months so I'm here until the PS3 release.
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There ya go :)
Thanks!

Those are interesting results. Given the amount of complaints people have about the game, and the general tone of most of the forums, I wasn't expecting to see the 'renew' vote in the lead.

That's good news for the players who are concerned with the negativity abound.

But at the same time, it makes me wonder what will happen once the extended free play runs out, if SE hasn't released more "substantial" updates than just small bug fixes. Hopefully they get their November update out before the 22nd.
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I would have let my sub expire. However, as compared to the first week of play were I would have let it expire and left the game behind, as of today it would have been leave it alone until they get some more lipstick on this pig.

My main deal breaker is the lack of organization for materials. The game has grown on me from when I first started it. And as with this payment period when the next one rolls around if they don't have at least one of those implemented with a solid and close time line on the other I'll be poof. On the plus side, they have addressed something needs to be done and I have a small amount of confidence in them that they will make good on their promise to get those things taken care of within the november updates they have ion the works.

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To be honest it has been 2-3 weeks since I have even logged in. That said I am in for the long haul and am hoping for the best over the next several months. As fixes are implemented I'll probably start playing regularly again. For now I'm in no rush nor do a feel a need to grin to level cap as fast as possible. I'd rather wait for the game to come together a bit more and enjoy it at my pace.


Thanks for posting that. I also seldom log in and yet I know that I want to play this game for years. Perhaps the faith is foolish but I still have hope for an excellent place to be at some point in the future.
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#36 Oct 22 2010 at 2:35 PM Rating: Good
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I would have let my subscription expire. I was actually thinking about cancelling just the night before the announcement of another free month.

In FFXI I found myself playing 4-5 hours every day, in FFXIV I found myself playing maybe 8 hours per week.

Since Beta I have thought this game has a lot of potential, but was currently flawed. Nothing significant (except the new market ward organization) has changed since Beta. In fact certain things that I did like in Beta were taken out making the game less enjoyable for me.
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Uh-oh the poll's getting interesting. It started out with a big advantage of "I'd stick with FF" but not so much now.
Guess more and more people are loosing patience and coming to the forum to show that :|
I chose the second option, if I haven't been given the extra free time I definitely wouldn't be paying for something this unfinished ;/ I'd just sit and wait for PS3 release and give it another chance, when it's hopefully more polished. Now I'm still enjoying the game and still being frustrated by it, compensating frustration with not needing to pay for it.
Waiting for November patch.
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SE gets my money. Been playing mmorpgs for ten years. I recall a time when we didn't have AH's, mail, insta guild creation, we didn't even have maps unless a player drew one on ms paint. That's the way it was and we liked, **** we loved it.

I've seen waaaay more shoddy games have horrible releases and receive much less criticism. I'm totally amused by all the people that feel the game is fundamentally broken. You know the players that begin their posts with 'I want...', or 'make it easier to...'. My favorite type is the individual that feels they need to express their disappointment in a game on a public forum because 'their expectations' weren't met. I also enjoy the 'SE ripped me off' crowd as if their collection of games has no titles that are less than stellar. Boohoo

I urge you all to continue posting anti XIV comments and threads. All the while I get to play a game I enjoy for a small monthly fee AND be entertained by a public FFXIV QQ support group.

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SE gets my money. Been playing mmorpgs for ten years. I recall a time when we didn't have AH's, mail, insta guild creation, we didn't even have maps unless a player drew one on ms paint. That's the way it was and we liked, **** we loved it.

I've seen waaaay more shoddy games have horrible releases and receive much less criticism. I'm totally amused by all the people that feel the game is fundamentally broken. You know the players that begin their posts with 'I want...', or 'make it easier to...'. My favorite type is the individual that feels they need to express their disappointment in a game on a public forum because 'their expectations' weren't met. I also enjoy the 'SE ripped me off' crowd as if their collection of games has no titles that are less than stellar. Boohoo

I urge you all to continue posting anti XIV comments and threads. All the while I get to play a game I enjoy for a small monthly fee AND be entertained by a public FFXIV QQ support group.

Edited, Oct 22nd 2010 5:22pm by Zedanko


See? You're one of the QQ people too :D You QQ about people that QQ and try to pass as being 'enlightened' or above it all. What are you doing on the forums? Please, never log off in-game. (^_^)\m/
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The more i play the weaker I feel playing this game 3 month has always been my time limit. I'll always thank SE for helping me build an upgradeable computer with a 3yr warranty that can play any game on the market.No other game but FF14 could 've done that.
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#41 Oct 22 2010 at 4:25 PM Rating: Decent
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I would have renewed my sub. Why? I'm having fun playing the game. Also, 13 bucks isn't much money to me. ****, I probably made that much reading this thread at work :)
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#42 Oct 22 2010 at 4:31 PM Rating: Excellent
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Zedanko wrote:
SE gets my money. Been playing mmorpgs for ten years. I recall a time when we didn't have AH's, mail, insta guild creation, we didn't even have maps unless a player drew one on ms paint. That's the way it was and we liked, **** we loved it.


Meanwhile, the rest of us are living in the 21st century...


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Why are you people saying I would have renew this game then follow it with I'm having fun as the reason. Are you trying to justify to other people that you are having fun? I thought that would be a given for people who would have renewed.

But pole is getting very interesting. I know it is small numbers but still intersting that 40% would have left.
#44 Oct 22 2010 at 4:45 PM Rating: Good
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doubleax wrote:
Why are you people saying I would have renew this game then follow it with I'm having fun as the reason.


When I log in I have fun. Isn't that a good enough reason to renew?
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#45 Oct 22 2010 at 4:50 PM Rating: Excellent
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Lukky wrote:
doubleax wrote:
Why are you people saying I would have renew this game then follow it with I'm having fun as the reason.


When I log in I have fun. Isn't that a good enough reason to renew?


You left out the rest of my statement. Which is we know that is the reason. For people who aren't renewing we also know the reason without them saying I don't like the game. Now following either reason with explanation is cool but to just say I like it or I hate it is not needed since we know those are the reason.

Edited, Oct 22nd 2010 6:51pm by doubleax

Edited, Oct 22nd 2010 6:51pm by doubleax
#46 Oct 22 2010 at 4:56 PM Rating: Decent
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Warmech wrote:
The more i play the weaker I feel playing this game 3 month has always been my time limit. I'll always thank SE for helping me build an upgradeable computer with a 3yr warranty that can play any game on the market.No other game but FF14 could 've done that.


Funcom did the same for me with AoC and it had a flawless launch.
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doubleax wrote:
You left out the rest of my statement. Which is we know that is the reason. For people who aren't renewing we also know the reason without them saying I don't like the game. Now following either reason with explanation is cool but to just say I like it or I hate it is not needed since we know those are the reason.

Because not everyone is renewing for that reason. You are rather assuming.

In the thread at least 1 person have said they are subbing because they are waiting for the patch. At least 1 person have said because 13 buck is nothing to him so he is continuing.

It just happens that some people are continuing because they are having fun. Is there a problem for them to specify their reason? Or does that require psychoanalysis for a deeper root cause?

If that is the reason then that is the reason. Why is it wrong?

"Would you buy the Apple?"
"Yes, I like Apples"
"Well just say you will buy it or not, to say you like it or not like it is pointless"

Isn't that odd? :)
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#48 Oct 22 2010 at 5:30 PM Rating: Excellent
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Will not be renewing subscription. In addition to the massive gameplay problems that FFXIV has, I can't get it not to crash on my system.
#49 Oct 22 2010 at 7:50 PM Rating: Excellent
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I've never been around for an MMO launch before, so I'm curious to know what some actual numbers are for retention of first month players. If we extrapolate this poll to assume all of FFXIV players, is ~66% stay and ~33% leave normal? High? Low? Anyone know where to find real data?
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I was really set on uninstalling and canceling and had not logged in for a long time. The free trial extension got me interested in the game again, but only because they had several press releases about issues and things that will be fixed. If there is another 2-3 week period of little information then I probably will not subscribe. I can understand problems with the game, but if they can't communicate to us, then it is kind of a fool me once, fool me twice kind of scenario.

I don't want to play a game that ends up like that ex-girlfriend that won't tell you what is wrong, and makes you feel guilty for asking.
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I would cancel my subscription. As long as things keep going the way they are now, most people will still end up unsubscribing.

All these "major fixes" are "planned" to be released just as or after the extended trial ends. These fixes are things that should have been in the release (bares repeating). Still no inventory sort? For me, probably the most annoying thing that's working as intended in this game.

Anyway, I'm still giving them until the end to pick up their act but I'm not holding my breath.
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