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#1 Oct 23 2010 at 9:30 AM Rating: Decent
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And there I was, grumbling my way through a guildleve,
until my GF suddenly said: "Oh please, can you turn off
that awful repetitive music". And so I did.

And behold! Without the horribly upbeat ever-repeating
guildleve squeals, I suddenly realized how beautiful the
Black Shroud is. With only sound effects turned on, I
suddenly heard rolling thunder, the wind in the leaves
and the rolling river at my feet.

That's what you have a GF for, I guess.


Edited, Oct 24th 2010 12:08am by Rinsui
#2 Oct 23 2010 at 9:36 AM Rating: Excellent
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Rinsui wrote:
That's what you have a GF for, I guess.


You are doing things wrong if the best you get out of your girlfriend is audio advice.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_birds_and_the_bees

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooking

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleaning

Edited, Oct 23rd 2010 11:37am by crushgroove
#3 Oct 23 2010 at 9:37 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'm looking forward to trying this later this afternoon! Thanks for the tip!
#4 Oct 23 2010 at 9:39 AM Rating: Excellent
Personally, I like to alternate. It's good to turn off the music occasionally so you really can appreciate the sound effects, because they do get lost (which is unfortunate, because the devs really did put time into making them good). Sometimes I miss the music and have to turn it back on though. I'm the type of person who always has to have something on in the background (even when I'm studying), so I have to keep the music on a lot of the time too. I don't dislike the music though, so I guess that's the main difference between us. =P
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#5 Oct 23 2010 at 9:39 AM Rating: Decent
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@Chartski
It truly was a revelation. I suddenly saw things I had never noticed before.

@crushgroove
ha...cough....cough...haa-a, I guess?

Btw, I remember there was a possibility to change which tracks are played when in 11; anything similar on the horizon yet for 14?


Edited, Oct 23rd 2010 11:41am by Rinsui
#6 Oct 23 2010 at 10:23 AM Rating: Excellent
I really like the music in this game so far, but I'm going to give your idea a try anyway. One of the things I liked a lot about FFXI were all the large, quiet areas, when all you heard were the natural sound effects around you.

My girlfriend hated the repetitive music in FFXI, too.
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#7 Oct 23 2010 at 10:30 AM Rating: Excellent
Personally I like some of the music in game but it does get repetitive... Especially that elevator music in the Market wards. So I went with just reducing the music volume to 50% and leaving the sound efects at 100% volume so you could hear them better over the music.
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#8 Oct 23 2010 at 10:34 AM Rating: Good
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crushgroove wrote:
Rinsui wrote:
That's what you have a GF for, I guess.


You are doing things wrong if the best you get out of your girlfriend is audio advice.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_birds_and_the_bees

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooking

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleaning

Edited, Oct 23rd 2010 11:37am by crushgroove


LMAO

... and it's "Turn Off", not "Turn Of".

Edited, Oct 23rd 2010 12:37pm by Mince
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#9 Oct 23 2010 at 10:57 AM Rating: Decent
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Turned off the music long ago. Never did like it anyway...and the fact that it was repetitious made it even worse. I'mn not sure if it got me to enjoy the game more, but I did notice the sounds of thunder and owls hooting in the background.
#10 Oct 23 2010 at 11:18 AM Rating: Good
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crushgroove wrote:
Rinsui wrote:
That's what you have a GF for, I guess.


You are doing things wrong if the best you get out of your girlfriend is audio advice.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_birds_and_the_bees

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooking

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleaning

Edited, Oct 23rd 2010 11:37am by crushgroove


If I could rate up, I would. That was...epic. Sort of like a funny post on CL I read, where someone wanted to buy something, the seller realized the buyer was female, and promptly told her "You better be surfing the internet from the kitchen... if not, get back in there!".


/SexistRant
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Another thing I did last night was play "Dancing Mad" from The Black Mages...it was great to fight with a nice, long (yet very good) song playing as "battle music". Skilling up can take a while anyway, and the default music gets kind of tiring after a while.

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Oh, NOW there's a thread full of people supporting my opinion that having only one composer (who composes little to no complex or ambient pieces) score an entire MMO all by himself is not a great idea.

That sure would have been nice when I was getting a dozen posts sub-defaulted instantaneously by Uematsu fanboys.
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#13 Oct 23 2010 at 10:02 PM Rating: Decent
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Most of the music in this game is annoying as ****. I'd say the battle music in the LL region takes the cake for the most annoying though. I did enjoy the music in Coerthas though, but I guess the one good zone isn't worth the 10 other bad ones. Gonna mute that **** next time I play.
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#14 Oct 24 2010 at 12:57 AM Rating: Good
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I was getting a dozen posts sub-defaulted instantaneously by Uematsu fanboys.

You called him a Hack for pretty much no reason, and failed to properly support your claims. Not saying any of what happened was justified(Or that I have an opinion either way, just bored), but I don't know why you expected anything different on a FF forum.

XIV's music is pretty **** horrible though, and I only unmute when crafting(I like that song most of all). I don't think it has anything to do with Uematsu, or him being the only composer for the game. As far as I know, he did the Ronfaure them, and that is my favorite song in XI(And sounds like Giligan's Island theme). They could have added 9 more guys and it may have turned out exactly the same(Who would have had the balls to say "This is crap Uematsu".)

Each zone is to large, and only has the one song, and that was really a bad choice. It doesn't feel like you are ever in a different part of the map.
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While on the subject of sound in-game, how the blazes does one turn off that god awful clinker clank noise from people crafting stuff? I had all of the bars in the audio menu turned down and I could still here it all.

It gives me a headache every time I run through a high traffic area.
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I guess he was pressured to finish in time just as much as the rest of the developers.
That, and he could have produced a series of farts and his name would still appear in
all advertisements.

Where's the guy that composed the Gustaberg/Zi'Tah/Sarutabaruta themes?
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Oh what the **** ever. I gave PLENTY of explanation for calling him "something of a hack", and I wasn't the only one with a music background who thought so.

I don't see how you can say that the music is horrible, but you don't think it has anything to do with the composer? Would you say that a painting is awful, but it has nothing to do with the artist? And your assertion that it was a bad idea to have so little music for the game is the exact same thing I was saying-- you put the entire score of a game on one composer, and there simply won't be enough music. The pieces are short and very simple, which is the LAST thing you want when you're trying to avoid repetitive music. Unfortunately, that's the kind of music that Uematsu DOES. Short and catchy, and masterfully so, but still the wrong kind of music for an MMO.

I made it very clear that I love a lot of Uematsu's compositions, but it WAS a bad decision to have him score an entire MMO on his own. I'm not afraid to reconsider my position and change my mind, but as of now I stand firmly by my original statements.
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I feel similar to Daimakaicho, but the tracks are getting stale, and I'm turning to the OSTs from previous FFs more and more.
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#30 Oct 24 2010 at 6:54 AM Rating: Decent
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Your gf doesn't play, yet you get hang up playing when she's around? That's rude.
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#31 Oct 24 2010 at 7:10 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm a Uematsu fanboy, but still I enjoyed the music in FF11 much more, because it was much more ambient. A good example is Gustaberg, what an excellent piece of music! The FF14 music is far too upbeat and 8-bit midi-file synthy.
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I do like it, why the **** all the tracks so short is what I'd like to know. Essentially each song only has about 30 seconds of music, that repeats over and over with an occasional key change...
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I prefer the XI music as well. I think it was generally more subtle, yet more distinctive than what we have in XIV.
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ditx wrote:
I do like it, why the **** all the tracks so short is what I'd like to know. Essentially each song only has about 30 seconds of music, that repeats over and over with an occasional key change...


This is how I feel, I like it but it's so short that the repetition starts to drive me mad if I'm in one area for too long.
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I'm a Uematsu fanboy, but still I enjoyed the music in FF11 much more, because it was much more ambient. A good example is Gustaberg, what an excellent piece of music! The FF14 music is far too upbeat and 8-bit midi-file synthy.


Just as an fyi, Uematsu didn't score the Gustaberg music. He actually didn't score very much music for XI. The Ronfaure music is easily the most notable example of what he did do.
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I'm a Uematsu fanboy, but still I enjoyed the music in FF11 much more, because it was much more ambient. A good example is Gustaberg, what an excellent piece of music! The FF14 music is far too upbeat and 8-bit midi-file synthy.


Just as an fyi, Uematsu didn't score the Gustaberg music. He actually didn't score very much music for XI. The Ronfaure music is easily the most notable example of what he did do.



Wasn't the chocobo theme his too?
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I -think- so, but not sure. Of course the original Chocobo themes are his. Edit: No, now that I think about it, the FFXI Chocobo theme is just a variation of one of the original themes. But that arrangement might not have been done by Uematsu.

Edited, Oct 26th 2010 12:54am by Kachi
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#38 Oct 26 2010 at 2:45 AM Rating: Decent
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You know.. if they had like Nobuo Uematsu, Keiichi Okabe and Yuki Kajiura together do the OST, I guess it would have been perfect.. **
I miss XiMC.. there are definitely some tracks I'd like to change in game..
First I'd like to obtain something like this..: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrS4B70qQoA&hd=1
Yeah.. La Noscea music is nice but also gets really repetitive after some time..
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#39 Oct 26 2010 at 2:51 AM Rating: Decent
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9/10 im listening to some form of house/techno/trance or other club/rave music when im playing...so I actually miss the sounds.. I think ill try to play it in silence with only the SFX up...thanks OP!
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