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#52 Oct 25 2010 at 4:09 PM Rating: Default
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Poubelle, the problem here is that plenty of people ARE finding exp camps and mobs easily. If the issue was uniform across the board then I could see it being a problem. As for the UI freeze, I have never heard of that happening to anyone else, and you didnt get "screwed over" because it occurred, try to remember his name. The freeze sounds more like an issue with his rig than with the UI.

Edit: COuld I say problem one more time?

Edited, Oct 25th 2010 6:17pm by Wloire
#53 Oct 25 2010 at 4:44 PM Rating: Default
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Poubelle wrote:
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so I tried logging in and playing today, me and someone I found while exploring partnered up and trying to look for dodos for over an hour.. no idea how long exactly, but we were never able to find a suitable exp spot in uldah, so then we did my leves and during the middle of the leve he went to friend request me and his UI froze and he couldnt attack so we had to surrender the leve.

the whole experience makes me sad. also finding plentiful monsters to kill outside of leves is way harder than it should be, it's like... worse than 11...

i mean... really it's just very hard to have fun. and todays experience is exactly why I made the OP.


Instead of sounding semi emo, you could have provided what rank you are and I am sure someone, if not me, could tell you where good camps are for duo/trio/etc.

You are upset that your hand is not held and you do need to look around for decent camps and mobs.

I'd give you a tissue, but, my wife is out of town tonight and I will need them.



i probably sound semi emo cuz, I'm tired, and cranky, and I don't have the time to log onto a freakin mmorpg and run around for an hour and a half tryign to find a monster to kill, then i finally get around to doing SOMETHING other than roaming around repetitive desert wasteland scenery, i get screwed over due to technical problems.

btw I was on rank 12 gladiator in ul'dah .

and you're defending the game i know but you think this is some problem with me wanting my "hand held", it shouldnt really be such a rarity to find exp monsters, and dont try and act like its somehow my fault..

Edited, Oct 25th 2010 5:21pm by Poubelle


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#54 Oct 25 2010 at 6:30 PM Rating: Excellent
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Wloire wrote:
I genuinely would like to know what you consider to be these poor design decisions.
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The threads I posted there actually describe pretty minor issues compared with some of the glaring problems that others have indicated.

Wloire wrote:
Most people that play MMOs and videogames in general, he'll most human beings, are completely incapable of changing their way of doing things without complainig and whining. It's a fact of life that most, yes most, no exaggeration, human being's, especially us westerners are lazy, spoiled and set in our ways.
I can understand being a Square Enix supporter. I was one myself. I can definitely identify with being an MMO enthusiast and a Final Fantasy fan; I'm both of those things as well.

However, to take your enthusiasm for the game and its company to the point of castigating not only me, but all of western civilization and even the entire human race is beyond extreme. It is fanatical and I honestly don't know how to reply when you respond to people's issues in a video game with 'THE GAME IS BAD BECAUSE THE HUMAN RACE SUCKS!'

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most of the complaints I've seen amount to "this game isn't how I would like it to be please change it to my specifications". It doesent matter if one hundred thousand people say the same thing it doesent make them right.
Last I checked, Square Enix was in business to make money, no?

It matters if those 100,000 people are paying you their money for a service or a product and they represent a large part of your revenue. It matters if those people are saying 'hey we WANT to like this product! We want to do business with you and give you our money but we feel some things need changing'.

I'm not saying change the entire game every time someone has a problem - but at least communicate with the people who are supporting you and contributing to your success; Don't ignore them. Don't assume some moral high ground of design choices. Don't act like you're doing your customers a favor. They will just vote with their dollar and choose another product.

Edited, Oct 26th 2010 12:35am by Timorith
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#55 Oct 25 2010 at 6:35 PM Rating: Default
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wasnt this thread locked like 12 hours ago this morning? coulda sworn it was
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#56 Oct 25 2010 at 6:55 PM Rating: Decent
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every thread which hints that this game is not good deserves to get instantly locked ? yeah no.
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#57 Oct 25 2010 at 6:57 PM Rating: Decent
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Poubelle wrote:
every thread which hints that this game is not good deserves to get instantly locked ? yeah no.


No, just the ones that complain about the game, indicating the OP didn't notice that a complaints thread is stickied for people who wish to kvetch.
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#58 Oct 25 2010 at 8:04 PM Rating: Default
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Timorith wrote:
Wloire wrote:
I genuinely would like to know what you consider to be these poor design decisions.
FFXIV Feedback Forum

The threads I posted there actually describe pretty minor issues compared with some of the glaring problems that others have indicated.

Wloire wrote:
Most people that play MMOs and videogames in general, he'll most human beings, are completely incapable of changing their way of doing things without complainig and whining. It's a fact of life that most, yes most, no exaggeration, human being's, especially us westerners are lazy, spoiled and set in our ways.
I can understand being a Square Enix supporter. I was one myself. I can definitely identify with being an MMO enthusiast and a Final Fantasy fan; I'm both of those things as well.

However, to take your enthusiasm for the game and its company to the point of castigating not only me, but all of western civilization and even the entire human race is beyond extreme. It is fanatical and I honestly don't know how to reply when you respond to people's issues in a video game with 'THE GAME IS BAD BECAUSE THE HUMAN RACE SUCKS!'

Wloire wrote:
most of the complaints I've seen amount to "this game isn't how I would like it to be please change it to my specifications". It doesent matter if one hundred thousand people say the same thing it doesent make them right.
Last I checked, Square Enix was in business to make money, no?

It matters if those 100,000 people are paying you their money for a service or a product and they represent a large part of your revenue. It matters if those people are saying 'hey we WANT to like this product! We want to do business with you and give you our money but we feel some things need changing'.

I'm not saying change the entire game every time someone has a problem - but at least communicate with the people who are supporting you and contributing to your success; Don't ignore them. Don't assume some moral high ground of design choices. Don't act like you're doing your customers a favor. They will just vote with their dollar and choose another product.

Edited, Oct 26th 2010 12:35am by Timorith


Whether or not you believe our generation, that above us and those who follow us are lazy or not is your own opinion. I believe very strongly that we are and I could go into multiple reasons as to why but that is not the purpose of this thread, I also believe zam has a no politics/etc etc... policy or some such so I will leave it there. (But yea the Human Race, including myself, does suck except for a small percentage of us).

We will disagree all day and it's not because I hold any misgivings against you. The "glaring problems" are mostly attributed to player laziness. Take the market wards for example, you won't spend nearly as much time in them if you use the appropriate tools. Yes a search function should be in the game, yes SE ****** up, but if you put just one iota of effort into it you can make your life so much easier.

You're right people will vote with their wallets. That still doesn't mean they are right. That doesn't mean the American Top 40 is good music. That doesn't mean FFXIII was a good game. That doesn't mean Ed Hardy makes good clothing. That doesn't mean the Twilight series are good books. That doesn't mean Mcdonald's make good food.
#59 Oct 25 2010 at 8:07 PM Rating: Default
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Gadhelyn wrote:
Poubelle wrote:
every thread which hints that this game is not good deserves to get instantly locked ? yeah no.


No, just the ones that complain about the game, indicating the OP didn't notice that a complaints thread is stickied for people who wish to kvetch.


Exactly. This would be like posting a question about Archers in the Gladiator forum. It's not the content that's wrong, simply the location. It's not like any of this is new anyway. Maybe if you found a new bug or glitch or something, but this is just complaint thread #5389 here on Zam.
#60 Oct 25 2010 at 8:23 PM Rating: Excellent
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Right now I can't justify logging in to play the game during free trial, much less spending $13 a month for it. Unfortunately, I'm also in the majority here.

What SE sold us is the skeleton of a good game. It's going to take a good half a year to a year to get any kind of substance into the game to make players want to stick around.
#61 Oct 25 2010 at 8:39 PM Rating: Default
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Wolfums wrote:
Right now I can't justify logging in to play the game during free trial, much less spending $13 a month for it. Unfortunately, I'm also in the majority here.

What SE sold us is the skeleton of a good game. It's going to take a good half a year to a year to get any kind of substance into the game to make players want to stick around.


I'm sorry the game's not working out for you :(. What makes you think you're in the majority though? Are you judging solely from teh internetz forums? I'm only seeing 1300 players on Trabia tonight though, you might be right :(.
#62 Oct 25 2010 at 9:03 PM Rating: Excellent
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Wloire wrote:
I'm sorry the game's not working out for you :(. What makes you think you're in the majority though? Are you judging solely from teh internetz forums? I'm only seeing 1300 players on Trabia tonight though, you might be right :(.


There were something like 4000 players for the first week or two on Kashuan at any given time. Now that number's dropped down to about 1100.

People aren't sticking around at all, and any talk I hear of FFXIV outside of ZAM and FFXIVCore is trash talk or aversion. I even caught a GameStop employee not recommending FFXIV to a customer. I honestly haven't seen anything this bad in terms of player retention since... ever. People joked around about Aion or whatever, but I at least heard some good things about it.

I'm sure the game will be great in a year or so and I'll be back for that, but it's going to be hard for this game to catch up in popularity after SE mangled it so bad with an early launch.
#63 Oct 26 2010 at 10:45 AM Rating: Decent
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I picked up my preordered copy of the game a day ago(i work to much) and have been playin for a few hours and I can say that yes people are playing FFXIV, ever where I went in LL people were crafting and the first camp was packed. I can also say that in town I got a bit of lag but that was fine and in the outside areas the game ran more than fine
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#64 Oct 26 2010 at 11:21 AM Rating: Excellent
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I tried to continue but couldn't take it any longer. Quit a few weeks ago, even with the free trial continuing further than expected. I am sure they will improve the game by leaps and bounds by the PS3 launch. Unfortunately by then games such as SWTOR and GW2 will also be on the horizon and it will be very difficult for FFXIV to compete with games that have such large budgets (150m-300m).

If you have been keeping up to date or have played any of their betas/48-hr-betas...etc you don't need any convincing. I recently had a chance to play a short SWTOR beta, and let me tell you that the two games are in no way in the same category even. It's unfair to put them in the same league.

And, I am not even a Star Wars fan. Never watched a single Star Wars movie or read a Star Wars book. On the other hand I am a very big FF fan. Even, as far as to go and say a Fan Boy. But, as a consumer I have to be honest and say that it is just not fair to compare FFXIV to any of the games mentioned above. They are so much more polished in their current state than FFXIV is at release, and their release date is still rumored to be 6-12 months away.

I still read these boards 1-2 times a week, because I am a FF fan. Just an honest FF fan.

Edited, Oct 26th 2010 1:22pm by Abidtwo
#65 Oct 26 2010 at 11:24 AM Rating: Good
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My server averaged 3500ish during peak hours after launch, but now 900ish is about the most I ever see. it's a ghost town and getting hard to find things. though i find myself not caring about the game, there's no reason to keep going, no objective, I find myself asking "why am I leveling?" and other such questions. there's no real goal other than max level, and that by itself isn't much of a goal.
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#66 Oct 26 2010 at 1:55 PM Rating: Default
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the game picks up once you past lvl. 13. Ginding on DoDo is a pain and very few but once you hit lvl 13, you can go to camp bloodshore in Limsa. There are plenty of Nanny goats and crabs to kill. I find myself enjoying the game after lvl 13. I am able to take lvl 20 leves (makes decent gils from these leves 25k or so). Plenty of grind parties to get into. BTW Wutai server is going strong, haven't seen much drop in population. I will continue to play and pay once free trial is over. I still have a few friends waiting for ps3 release to join.
#67 Oct 26 2010 at 1:58 PM Rating: Default
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The game picks up once you past lvl. 13. Ginding on DoDo is a pain and very few but once you hit lvl 13, you can go to camp bloodshore in Limsa. There are plenty of Nanny goats and crabs to kill. I find myself enjoying the game after lvl 13. I am able to take lvl 20 leves (makes decent gils from these leves 25k or so). Plenty of grind parties to get into. BTW Wutai server is going strong, haven't seen much drop in population. I will continue to play and pay once free trial is over. I still have a few friends waiting for ps3 release to join.
#68 Oct 26 2010 at 2:49 PM Rating: Excellent
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the game picks up once you past lvl. 13. Ginding on DoDo is a pain and very few but once you hit lvl 13, you can go to camp bloodshore in Limsa. There are plenty of Nanny goats and crabs to kill. I find myself enjoying the game after lvl 13. I am able to take lvl 20 leves (makes decent gils from these leves 25k or so). Plenty of grind parties to get into. BTW Wutai server is going strong, haven't seen much drop in population. I will continue to play and pay once free trial is over. I still have a few friends waiting for ps3 release to join.


Do you hear yourself though? What I heard in my head while reading this was "it picks up after 13 = plenty of mobs to grind on and plenty of grind parties to get into".

All I really heard was the word grind. Nowhere did I hear "Fun quests, interesting dungeons to explore, hidden treasure to find". All I heard was grind out levels - and I'm sorry but most of us got that kind of stuff out of our systems with FFXI. Other games have grind, but there's exploration and missions and treasure peppered in to make sure that you aren't getting bored of just killing the same monster over and over.... and over.

That's why people are moving on. People who really enjoyed grind never left FFXI - the ones who did were those of us looking for something *new*.


#69 Oct 26 2010 at 4:04 PM Rating: Default
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My post was for one of the member that said he cant find anything to kill at lvl 12. I'm sorry that you are not enjoying this game. That is your opinion. I am enjoying this game and having a good time killing mobs and partying with others that enjoy doing the same. Hope you find your niche or habitat someday^^
#70 Oct 27 2010 at 6:38 PM Rating: Decent
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the game picks up once you past lvl. 13. Ginding on DoDo is a pain and very few but once you hit lvl 13, you can go to camp bloodshore in Limsa. There are plenty of Nanny goats and crabs to kill. I find myself enjoying the game after lvl 13. I am able to take lvl 20 leves (makes decent gils from these leves 25k or so). Plenty of grind parties to get into. BTW Wutai server is going strong, haven't seen much drop in population. I will continue to play and pay once free trial is over. I still have a few friends waiting for ps3 release to join.


Do you hear yourself though? What I heard in my head while reading this was "it picks up after 13 = plenty of mobs to grind on and plenty of grind parties to get into".

All I really heard was the word grind. Nowhere did I hear "Fun quests, interesting dungeons to explore, hidden treasure to find". All I heard was grind out levels - and I'm sorry but most of us got that kind of stuff out of our systems with FFXI. Other games have grind, but there's exploration and missions and treasure peppered in to make sure that you aren't getting bored of just killing the same monster over and over.... and over.

That's why people are moving on. People who really enjoyed grind never left FFXI - the ones who did were those of us looking for something *new*.




Precisely!!! what is the point? why am I leveling... what will I get to do when I get bigger? seriously there is no point because at level 1 I get to... grind at level 10 i get to.... grind and at level whatever i get to... grind
there's no instances I know of, no elite monsters or end game type stuff to look forward to. Yeah, it'll be there eventually I guess... but that doesn't help me now, does it? I really do like the game, how it plays, (aside from the menus) how it looks, how the classes are laid out, but there's no reason to endure the grinding and need to level your crafts far past your war/magic disciplines just to gear them, because there's no goal, no objective to work towards.
Maybe I'll check it out again after the first expansion hits, but as of now, I just can't bring myself to play... I feel like I've wasted my time every time I log in and play. It's like they forgot to add the part that makes leveling up worth it.

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#71 Oct 27 2010 at 6:49 PM Rating: Default
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NOPE! This game is a failure! 31 year old age long Final Fantasy player! This one FAILED! FF 13 FAILED TOO!
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