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#1 Oct 26 2010 at 8:59 AM Rating: Good
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I am a rank 35 GLA and have yet to get any GLA guild marks from leve quest. I get every other guild mark but not once have Leve quest offerd me GLA guild marks. My brother is a Conj and gets marks for his class all the time.

The only thing I can think is that I have all other job's at rank 12 and over. But why would this stop me from geting GLA marks when all other jobs are under 20 and I never have them active when taking leves. it realy is starting to **** me off.

Anyone have any ideas on this one?
#2 Oct 26 2010 at 9:04 AM Rating: Good
For your rank 20 guildleves, you will get marks for any job you have over rank 10. Rank 30 guildleves should only give you marks for jobs you have over rank 20, so that would be a good way to filter out what you're getting. Other than that, it's just luck as to what job you will get marks for.
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#3 Oct 26 2010 at 9:08 AM Rating: Good
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Daimakaicho, Eater of Souls wrote:
For your rank 20 guildleves, you will get marks for any job you have over rank 10. Rank 30 guildleves should only give you marks for jobs you have over rank 20, so that would be a good way to filter out what you're getting. Other than that, it's just luck as to what job you will get marks for.


This is what I was thinking but my rank 30 leves are offering me Pug and lancer marks today. Pug is rank 17 and Lancer is rank 19. last reset it offerd me pug and conj marks. My conj is only lvl 15 (only lvled it to get shell/protect) Again none of them are over rank 20.
#4 Oct 26 2010 at 9:16 AM Rating: Good
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Daimakaicho, Eater of Souls wrote:
For your rank 20 guildleves, you will get marks for any job you have over rank 10. Rank 30 guildleves should only give you marks for jobs you have over rank 20, so that would be a good way to filter out what you're getting. Other than that, it's just luck as to what job you will get marks for.


This is what I was thinking but my rank 30 leves are offering me Pug and lancer marks today. Pug is rank 17 and Lancer is rank 19. last reset it offerd me pug and conj marks. My conj is only lvl 15 (only lvled it to get shell/protect) Again none of them are over rank 20.

That is confusing. Perhaps the cutoff is actually lower than we thought. I don't have access to rank 30 leves yet myself, so I can't go test it, but I had thought that SE had specifically told us where the cutoff was. Maybe I was making that up and it's actually 15 or 16.
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#5 Oct 26 2010 at 9:25 AM Rating: Good
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Daimakaicho, Eater of Souls wrote:
Sethern79 wrote:
Daimakaicho, Eater of Souls wrote:
For your rank 20 guildleves, you will get marks for any job you have over rank 10. Rank 30 guildleves should only give you marks for jobs you have over rank 20, so that would be a good way to filter out what you're getting. Other than that, it's just luck as to what job you will get marks for.


This is what I was thinking but my rank 30 leves are offering me Pug and lancer marks today. Pug is rank 17 and Lancer is rank 19. last reset it offerd me pug and conj marks. My conj is only lvl 15 (only lvled it to get shell/protect) Again none of them are over rank 20.

That is confusing. Perhaps the cutoff is actually lower than we thought. I don't have access to rank 30 leves yet myself, so I can't go test it, but I had thought that SE had specifically told us where the cutoff was. Maybe I was making that up and it's actually 15 or 16.


See I thought I had read the same thing. But last week when I hit 30 and realy started to hit the rank 30 Leves I saw that I was still geting marks for jobs that I have not lvled past 20. I gess I could be making it up my self lol. but this is realy starting to get old. Why do they feel the need to have such a random system? I almost feel like ither starting over so that I can at least get the marks I need or just quiting the game.

This system if not a bug realy makes it hard to justify lvling other jobs to build the best tank/dps/healer/w/e you can. I have not tryed this with only one job lvled I think I mite test that out tonight.
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Why am I not geting GLA guild marks?


Because you play way too much FFXIV and have way too many jobs leveled too high. SE's guild mark system works great for casual players: if you level up one main job or if you just level up one or two jobs together that make sense (like CON/THM or some other logical combo) the system works fine as is.

If your main job is considerably higher level than your other lowbie jobs, you seem to get relevant guild marks for your main job regardless of what job you are doing your leve's as.
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#7 Oct 26 2010 at 12:47 PM Rating: Good
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If your main job is considerably higher level than your other lowbie jobs, you seem to get relevant guild marks for your main job regardless of what job you are doing your leve's as.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're saying here, but you can't earn guildmarks for a job if you don't actually complete the leve on that job, regardless of what the leve reward says. Leves will not even give you the option to earn marks for jobs that are too low.

DonFlamenco wrote:
Because you play way too much FFXIV and have way too many jobs leveled too high. SE's guild mark system works great for casual players: if you level up one main job or if you just level up one or two jobs together that make sense (like CON/THM or some other logical combo) the system works fine as is.

The scope of this thread isn't really discussing the merits or shortcomings of the system; his problem is that he has NOT been leveling his other jobs as high as his main, yet he is still unable to get the marks for the job he needs. We know how the system is supposed to work; the problem is that it is not working properly for him.
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#8 Oct 26 2010 at 1:28 PM Rating: Good
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it seems random so its very possible you're just getting bad "rolls" every leve cycle.

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Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're saying here, but you can't earn guildmarks for a job if you don't actually complete the leve on that job, regardless of what the leve reward says. Leves will not even give you the option to earn marks for jobs that are too low.


Not 100% how this works. You need to be rank 13 to accept r20 leves, but I get guildmark offers for classes I have at rank 11, which wouldnt have been able to accept had I not had con at 13+
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You can get marks for all battlecraft classes you have at 10+. I assume that you have been just unlucky.

That doesn't really help, I know. You just have to keep your faith.
#10 Oct 26 2010 at 11:47 PM Rating: Good
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Sethern79 wrote:
Daimakaicho, Eater of Souls wrote:
For your rank 20 guildleves, you will get marks for any job you have over rank 10. Rank 30 guildleves should only give you marks for jobs you have over rank 20, so that would be a good way to filter out what you're getting. Other than that, it's just luck as to what job you will get marks for.


This is what I was thinking but my rank 30 leves are offering me Pug and lancer marks today. Pug is rank 17 and Lancer is rank 19. last reset it offerd me pug and conj marks. My conj is only lvl 15 (only lvled it to get shell/protect) Again none of them are over rank 20.


The Guild marks DoW/DoM received is random, I have been getting Lancer and Archer GM from r30 leves way before any of them reach r20. The cut-off is actually at r10. You will have to stick with it as it is until they change it hopefully in November patch. It's one of the balancing mechanic I believe as DoH partially get to choose which class to get GM but the rate is several time lower.
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#11 Oct 27 2010 at 12:08 AM Rating: Good
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I've got the exact same issue with mine. It'll offer me tons of Thaumaturge marks, but none (thus far) for my Conjurer, which is where they're really needed. Maybe people should level the classes they DONT want marks for first and then switch to their chosen class once the marks show up.

Definitely feels like a bugged system to me. Hopefully it'll be on their list of repairs for Novembers update.
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#12 Oct 27 2010 at 1:24 AM Rating: Good
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I level all the jobs because I like mixing and matching the skills from each job. I thought this was what SE was aiming for but it seems they slap you in the face for doing that with this random guild mark system :(
#13 Oct 27 2010 at 3:32 AM Rating: Good
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Say hello to my six thousand conjurer marks... and my level 11 conjurer. (I got 3000 today from ONE LEVE. Crikey!)
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Say hello to my six thousand conjurer marks... and my level 11 conjurer. (I got 3000 today from ONE LEVE. Crikey!)


I got close to 5000 Lancer Mark from one leve, a faction one with stacking leve exchange. Then I'm sitting on some 24,000 LNC marks and working my way on 3rd Goldmsith training book. But that's way off-topic.
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One semi-related thing I discovered today: For DoW/DoM, If you have a leviquest that rewards Guild Marks for a particular class, upon completion of that levequest, the game will reward you with a percentage of the total Guild Marks, that percentage being the amount of monsters that you killed as that class over the total amount of monsters killed during that leviquest. Why does this matter? Well, say you accidentally picked a leviquest that had Guild Marks for another class. As long as you switch to that class to complete the leviquest, you'll get all of the Guild Marks. Just letting all of you know.
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I'm extremely dissapointed in how random the system is. I thought the entire POINT of this game was to not pigeonhole us into just 1 or 2 classes? Now we come to find out that if we really want to get the best abilities, we need to focus solely on those jobs or suffer the fate of the RNG each reset. Another very flawed system that has absolutely no purpose other than to frustrate the playerbase. All I really want to know is why.
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#17 Oct 31 2010 at 10:14 PM Rating: Default
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Have you been trying all 3 cities? I got pgl in limsa so out of curiosity i went to uldah and got another then gridinia and got another, wonder when it does show up if its not random for all cities.
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#18 Oct 31 2010 at 10:53 PM Rating: Decent
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I haven't seen any leves with Gladiator marks for the last couple of resets. I see mostly THM and PUG. Other times I was getting one GLA and THM every reset for a while.

I agree that SE needs to take a look at how the guild marks system is set up. And it's not because of the "grrr...I didn't get any guild marks for my preferred class this reset" cases; it's for those cases where one person goes two weeks or more without seeing any and the guy next to him is on his way to pick up his third training book. I'd rather see a system where you can get a bit of gil and a lesser amount of guild marks for a class of your choosing with every leve than what we have now.
#19 Nov 01 2010 at 12:19 PM Rating: Good
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Surprise, it's completely random, just like everything else!

My friend killed Leaping Lizzy over 25 times and still never got the Leaping Boots. I got them on my second kill. It's just how these games work.
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#20 Nov 01 2010 at 12:34 PM Rating: Decent
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Nainz wrote:
Surprise, it's completely random, just like everything else!

My friend killed Leaping Lizzy over 25 times and still never got the Leaping Boots. I got them on my second kill. It's just how these games work.


wow, its surely the same mechanic, you are right it work the same, you are a genius and surely work for SE


To the OP, i have the exact same problem, Mrd as main and pug,lnc,gla rnk 10.
ive got none GM leve for mrd over the past 2 week in every city but sometime get 2-3 GM leve for other class
on the same reset. the system seem to leave your main class off the roll, cant always be badluck there must be
something that trigger the main job out of the leve roll, maybe the class you are when the leve reset.

very sad
#21 Nov 01 2010 at 1:33 PM Rating: Decent
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They have succeeded at making casual play not very casual. And getting 3000 marks for Con when Im a MRD is very helpful, thanks SE!
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#22 Nov 01 2010 at 1:41 PM Rating: Decent
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As someone who went through this myself I have a small bit of advice. Level another job. Why? I hit surplus with my glad (which i love playing) and i could NEVER get marks for it. I leveled Mar for fracture and guess what.... Gla marks. It seems like the system likes to give you marks for the class you aren't leveling at the moment.

Now It could be complete and utter luck or whatever but I never check for marks as the class I want marks for. The end result? Sitting on (rounded @) 12k gla marks, 14K Thm marks, 6k Con marks

I still get pug and Mar marks on occasion, but I have all the marks I need for the skills I want on my main classes
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