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#1 Oct 27 2010 at 2:38 PM Rating: Decent
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Okay, just curious. What is it costing to have weapons repaired by PC?
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#2 Oct 27 2010 at 2:43 PM Rating: Good
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depends on the weapon... generally higher ranked weapons cost more to repair. The repair mat contributes to the cost. My iron alembic costs more than 16K to repair at the NPC
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#3 Oct 27 2010 at 4:18 PM Rating: Decent
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I meant by actualy people...playable characters :P
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#4 Oct 27 2010 at 5:46 PM Rating: Good
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I do it for free unless im just browsing someone's bazaar for their set price.
#5 Oct 27 2010 at 9:54 PM Rating: Default
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Anything under tank 20 I offer 1000gil to 3000gil.

Depends on my current state of finances and if im supplying the repair mats.

Most times I can put up all 3 of my brass daggers, gladius and a machquilt and offer 1000gil a piece, come back 30 mins later and they are all repaired!

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#6 Oct 27 2010 at 10:25 PM Rating: Good
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depends on the mats requiered mainly.

Bronze plate for hoplon are pretty expensive to make for example, close to 4000 a piece if you include all mats/cristals/shards, even though it is for really low level gear.

here is a quick table for the mat cost (for the one I know and use daily), use at will to guess what you can offer. Those prices DONT include:
- time to make the mats
- time to make the repair
- cost of opportunity of the crafter clogging his inventory with such mats
- possibility to fail the repair
- reward for the crafter time spent skilling up
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- it only covers the price of 1 mat, if several are requiered, just make the calculation :)

bronze plate: ~4k
brass plate: ~5.5k
bronze ring: ~1k
brass ring: ~1.3k
bronze nuggets: ~300
brass nuggets: ~600
iron nuggets: ~1000
silver nugget: ~1000
iron rings: ~2000
copper nuggets: ~300
iron plate: ~10k
copper square: ~200
bronze square: ~360 (npc price)
iron square: ~500
brass square: ~300
leather spetch: ~400
silver plate: ~10k

as the above person said, 1k for a brass dagger (1 brass nugget) is feasible (I would do the repair at that price if I have time) but it is nowhere near generous, i would say it's below market price. I would clearly not go out of my way for that price (ie if I need to craft some nugget from ore for that or If I'm in the middle of something else)
I see a lot of people just totally out of touch when asking for repair (hello, haubergeon for 500). At first I didn't make my calculation so I was basically repairing if the price looked ok (like 5000, i take it), but after making the calculation, I just stopped making repair if the price isn't right (unless the person is a friend, its just plain free then if i have the mat on me)

Honestly, people would get their repair made a lot faster if they were being fair in their pricing. I'm pretty sure it's just a matter of ignorance of the price and it will settle down once the playerbase is more informed.

a really easy way to get repair made fast is:

Fill you bazard with your items, use a decent price.
go to a crowded place (like a camp, a guild or a a repair NPC)
say (or shout, up to you), using auto-transalte function

<my gear is in poor condition><repair><can i have it> <name of craftS needed)><thank you>

that way people with the appropriate craft can check you bazaar and do the necessary. Fast for you, a bit profitable for them, still a lot cheaper than npc. Not annoying for everybody.
another way that will make crafter love you is to offer shard/cristal for repair (preferably shard related to the mats requiered for the repair lol). Even without overpaying, if the crafter can get some real money (sharps/cristal) instead of phony money (gils) for their work, you can bet they will be happy.


Nothing like the guy shouting (so people dont know if he is close or not) for repair, in english only, without mentionning the craft needed etc.
just plain annoying for everybody and not getting the repair done anyway.


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#7 Oct 27 2010 at 11:29 PM Rating: Good
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If the person in need of repairs has the mats already, ill do the repairs and most likely wont charge them.

If I have to supply the mats myself? Im going to charge for the mats.
The repairs themselves are quick and easy, but like the above poster said, if ive got to supply the mats or go out of my way to make the them and then do the repairs for you, the least you can do is front cost of the mats. You know?

I see to many people with equipment in their bazaar in need of repairs offering 1k when the mats alone would run for 5k+
and these people wonder why noone is willing to repair their equipment for them.....

Edited, Oct 28th 2010 1:33am by Faaeng
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#8 Oct 27 2010 at 11:47 PM Rating: Good
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LillithaFenimore wrote:
I meant by actualy people...playable characters :P
misread that, apologies...
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#9 Oct 28 2010 at 2:11 AM Rating: Good
Currently I do 1.2K for my bone gear, 2K for brass items such as earrings, circlet, and choker. I use a canvas robe and that I pay about 3-4K for. Generally all my equipment gets repaired when I sit AFK overnight or at work. Only a few times things didn't and that usually the bone gear (bone ring, bone armilla) but I can often get that repaired later. So far what I've done is purchased two of each type of jewelry I normally use so I can swap as they break down. From what I've seen if you're fairly generous with your repair rewards people are far more inclined to repair it.
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#10 Oct 28 2010 at 2:15 AM Rating: Good
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I don't mind repairing someone's gear as long as what they're offering in exchange at least covers the cost of the materials. People bazaaring repairs for 1 gil can keep right on seeking for repairs.
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#11 Oct 28 2010 at 2:22 AM Rating: Good
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I don't mind repairing someone's gear as long as what they're offering in exchange at least covers the cost of the materials. People bazaaring repairs for 1 gil can keep right on seeking for repairs.


I've done the 1G thing before, but that was just to store unique gear when I didn't have access to my retainer at the moment. Don't always assume someone with an item listed for 1G is actually seeking repairs, they could just be using it for extra storage space.
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#12 Oct 28 2010 at 2:40 AM Rating: Decent
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I've always put up repairs for NPC material cost (rounded up) plus a 5k tip. It seems reasonable; I've never had a damaged item in my bazaar for more than a few hours.
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#13 Oct 28 2010 at 2:53 AM Rating: Decent
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I pay 10k a piece for my 20ish gears. They cost me 20k repair fee fm NPC and only repair up to 75%.

I usually park my char next to the repair NPC, make a shout and go afk for a few mins. So far, it worked 100% fine with me and all my stuff are repaired to 100% when I come back.

People might think paying 10k to repair when the mat cost is only 1-2k is insane, however, as I dont have the skill to repair my own stuff, I see it as a Win Win situration. Its cheaper and have better result than the other option(finding repair fm NPC), and the ppl who repair my stuff is happy 'cause the price is decent.
#14 Oct 28 2010 at 2:56 AM Rating: Good
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i usualy offer 50-100 lightning or wind shards depending on rank it gets me repairs real fast.. offering gil takes forever
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#15 Oct 28 2010 at 4:13 AM Rating: Excellent
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The last three posts: I would repair their gear in a heartbeat.

As a clothcrafter:
I might repair hempen items for 1-2k. Anything over 2k and I'm more likely to.
I might repair cotton items for 2-4k. 5k+, I'm likely to.
Canvas, I can't do yet, but when the time comes I'm probably going to walk on anything less than 5k.

Shards/Crystals: Wind shard, thunder shards/crystals, and earth shards are likely to interest me more than gil.

Might just be me, but I feel very little incentive to repair most of the time. The SP gain is pointless, and the interface is annoying (still have to select from your entire list of gear which item you want to use to repair).

And if you want something repaired, for the love of god, don't move around. I have to stay within 5 feet of you for 20+ seconds to do the repair. If you move to far, I am highly unlikely to try to come repair it again.
#16 Oct 28 2010 at 6:44 AM Rating: Decent
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MasterOutlaw the Irrelevant wrote:
I don't mind repairing someone's gear as long as what they're offering in exchange at least covers the cost of the materials. People bazaaring repairs for 1 gil can keep right on seeking for repairs.

I've done the 1G thing before, but that was just to store unique gear when I didn't have access to my retainer at the moment. Don't always assume someone with an item listed for 1G is actually seeking repairs, they could just be using it for extra storage space.


Putting things in your bazaar for repair take up TWO spaces not ONE. Putting it in your bazaar for sale for 999,9999,999 takes up ONE space.
#17 Oct 28 2010 at 6:46 AM Rating: Decent
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The SP gain is pointless, and the interface is annoying (still have to select from your entire list of gear which item you want to use to repair).


When you do a repair it only shows the list of mats that can be used for a repair. It does not show the whole inventory.
#18 Oct 28 2010 at 7:07 AM Rating: Good
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As a goldsmith I'll do brass nugget repairs for 1k at a minimum but if I'm not already on GSM I won't switch for less than 2k most of the time. 3k or better and I'll almost always stop to repair. I'd say 3k + material cost is what I would expect someone to pay (and that's what I tend to seek for).
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MasterOutlaw the Irrelevant wrote:
I don't mind repairing someone's gear as long as what they're offering in exchange at least covers the cost of the materials. People bazaaring repairs for 1 gil can keep right on seeking for repairs.

I've done the 1G thing before, but that was just to store unique gear when I didn't have access to my retainer at the moment. Don't always assume someone with an item listed for 1G is actually seeking repairs, they could just be using it for extra storage space.


Putting things in your bazaar for repair take up TWO spaces not ONE. Putting it in your bazaar for sale for 999,9999,999 takes up ONE space.



Can't sell an item in bazaar if it's not 100% durability, hence storing in two bazaar slots for 1 gil.

Though you're right and I'm betting it's more effective to put some cotton bolls or ash branches up there, but if Weathered Slops are what you want out of your inventory at the moment, so be it.
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If people are nice about the way they ask, then I will often repair items at or under cost. I always mention the true cost of the repair, however, because I feel that they should know. I strongly believe that there are a lot of non-crafters out there who really have no understanding of the time and cost involved in making the materials.

I had one person in Camp Horizon balk at me for this just yesterday. He wanted his Dodoskin Cesti repaired, which takes two Dodoskin Leather Spetches. He was asking around the camp for someone capable of fixing it, and lo and behold he descovered me doing a Leatherwork Guildleve there. He promptly put it up for 1000 gil.

I did fix it, but I let him know that his offer wasn't very generous. It is true that 1000 gil will barely cover the cost of mats with no failures, but when you're the one who is looking for spur-of-the-moment repairs to avoid a long walk back to town, then you should compensate as such. Heck, I routinely sell Dodo Spetches in my bazaar for 1000 each, let alone interrupt my guildleve and use two for you at the same amount.

I was polite about it, and continued to repair the item anyway, but he had to come back with "Well, I've seen them on sale for as low as 300." That's great buddy, but that's below cost and hardly indicative of the market. You can choose to take my advice in future transactions or you can get a cold shoulder turned to you repeatedly because you're being a cheapskate. Not a good idea to ask for a favor on one hand but nickel-and-dime them on the other.
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#21 Oct 28 2010 at 10:49 AM Rating: Decent
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my opinion on repairs is if it costs 10k, 20k, 30k, etc to repair at the npc onlt to 75% dont be a **** and offer 1k for the repair...i spent time leveling the craft to get to the point to repair your weapon...you aren't doing me a favor by offering 1k to repair your gear...it is the other way around.

i don't demand a tip (it is unspoken that i'll get one) but if you tip me **** i'll remember your name and remember not to repair your ****.

may sound douchey...but i'm helping you out and have to go out of my way.

and i'll <3 you forever if you tip me in earth shards!
#22 Oct 29 2010 at 3:58 AM Rating: Excellent
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The SP gain is pointless, and the interface is annoying (still have to select from your entire list of gear which item you want to use to repair).


When you do a repair it only shows the list of mats that can be used for a repair. It does not show the whole inventory.


No, we're both wrong.
It doesn't show every item, but it definitely shows more than can be used for a repair (it seems to exclude anything equipable, but that's all), and even showing every item that could be used for any repair is more than it should show. It should only show you 4 items: The repair item, and its +1, +2, and +3 versions.

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