Seems what I got instead was some *** Hat flaming me on the assumption that I was spreading this as truth.
First of all the only person flaming here is you. I was quite polite in my post. And most of the people who actually read the forums don't like wasting their time reading unfounded speculation.
Yes I posted this twice, though the posts aren't exactly identical. I edited the General Forum post a little bit. I posted the idea in the Alchemist forum, but then noticed that may of those threads hadn't been used since September, so to try and reach a broader base I moved the base idea to a new thread on the general forum. Sorry if that offended anyone.
I read about the Strength Increasing skill that Alchemists receive in one of the data mines done on the game, but am having trouble locating it. This has been mentioned on a few of the pod casts covering the data mining in the last couple of weeks. As soon as I find the forum and thread I read it in a few weeks back I will edit and link it.
I read about how Refresh dropped off of Taisai, in FFXI. Doesn't mean I believed it. All jokes aside... if you speculation IS based off of some kind of credible source, then in the future try to have your references upfront before posting your theories, to alliviate confusion or disapproval.
Why would a piece of equipment that has nothing but a + to STR, no matter who else it is recommended for, be recommended for an ALC? I would think that the recommendation would mean that it is made for that class. If this wasn't the case, why don't we see any + STR gear recommended for Cullinarians? Or + STR for Fishers (that don't include a + to Gathering as well)
I don't know if you have ever done a crafting levequest, but a lot of them require you run out to Camps that are dangerous to get to because of aggro. If you took the time to look at available equipment to crafting classes, every class has favorable crafting gear (Control+, Craftmanship+, Mag. Craftmanship+...) in addition each crafting class, as well as DoL classes, have access to some type of Armor that favors them. If you didn't know, armor that favors your class will give you the full benefit of stats. Since and Alchemist can only throw pebbles for negilible daamage and/or possibly Stun a monster, having some Armor to increase you Defense is very useful, especially when you have to run right past a monster that will undoubtedly kill you in 1-2 hits if your naked or wearing weak crafting gear. The STR+ in this case is just a coincidence.
To be fair however lets examine this assuming you are CORRECT however. As a crafter, lets say Alchemist to keep it on track. Which piece of gear do you think i will choose for crafting: Mercenary's Chainmail
, for the STR +4?
or Velveteen Gown
for the Craftmanship +17, and Mag. Craftmanship +7?
I realize the Gown is 2 ranks higher than the M.Chainmail, but even if STR does effect Off-hand synthesis, there is no way it will help more than wearing crafting gear.
However, is it believable that SE gave crafting classes a favorable armor to wear so they can be better protected while running all over the world? Especially, since they designed crafting classes to be a Main Job? Yes.
I personally have no DoW, or DoM class leveled, however i still have to run around r30 camps with aggro, and such. So will I use gear like that to protect myself? Definitely. Would I be caught dead wearing it while crafting? **** no.
At this point no one knows the ins and outs of the game and we should figure this game out the same as we figured out FFXI, through discussion, trial and error. I thought that a forum was, by definition, a meeting place for a discussion of questions of public interest. If that is not the case here at ZAM and people would rather flame an honest inquiry just let me know and I'll find another community.
A Forum is an online discussion site where people can hold conversations in the form of posted messages. So yes, your more than welcome to post your ideas, thoughts, and opinions, any time you see fit. It is, however, a lot better when your idea isn't just an idea, and you actually have some references, or in this case, more than just the fact that there happens to be a useless stat on an item favoring a class. (If you played FFXI, you would know just how often SE puts useless stats on gear. ****, look at SAMs AF gear, there's a great example.)
Secondly, Flaming is a hostile and insulting interaction between Internet users. I was not hostile towards you, I just stated that you have no idea what your talking about, and showed you why I believe that to be the case. I don't tolerate flaming, and I do not appreciate, someone referring to my posting as flaming.
Finally, if you had asked in your post: "I heard about an ability Alchemist gets at a higher rank that increases STR from a Podcast on datamining (Link goes here). I also noticed that there are a few pieces of equipment that increase STR that favor ALC (List equipment here). This leads me to beilieve that STR may effect Alchemy in some way. What do you think?"
This would make me more inclined to not only examine your references myself, but solidly give a good reason for me to take my time checking up on this, rather than explaining to you how it is frowned upon to make random statements, and then say, oh i heard it on this one podcast...or i read it on this one website, but i cant remember where, so ill just get back in a few weeks...
This tells me right away that it's not even credible. There is nothing on the interent that should take WEEKS to find, just so you can site a reference.
Furthermore, no one is trying to push you away from ZAM. From what I have seen, a lot of others websites' databases are in dissarray (more so than ZAM). Just try to write a better post next time.
If there are some here who see any validity to my observations or have a theory backed by their own experience that says that my observations are wrong I would love to hear about them :)
Done, and done.
Let me quote one of your original lines:
I haven't tested this theory yet in numbers, but my observations of gear and skills seem to point to this.
Your skill information is currently wrong. (Check any FFXIV site if you don't believe me.)
Instances of Stats on Gear that Favors MULTIPLE classes (including DoW/M) are circumstancial at best, and any access to them by DoH/L classes are more likely to be a result of my information given above.
If you still believe your thoery to be true, then do what you said you hadn't done yet, and go test this out yourself. Parse the data, and post us some solid numbers, please.
I look forward to seeing some actual data, since on the slim chance you happen to be correct, it may help me out, eventually.