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#1 Nov 01 2010 at 12:12 AM Rating: Good
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Good day to all.

Still playing the game and hope to stay here till it becomes equal or better than FFXI witch most of us loved.
Now to my topic, the things I really don’t understand what is the fun factor in them:

1- When you are rank 26 and your sword is rank 25 (Ash) and you have to repair it every 6 hours (depends on how much do you grind).

2- When you are 23 armor crafter and you fail 3 times on a raw on a rank 11 craft even when you are using crafting gear.

3- When you do localleve in LL and you have to run to 5 camps to hand them in (BB-Blood-Iron-Skull-Bladi) on foot.

Am not talking about not having an AH, or the game UI is crap or things like that, am talking about the things that are working as intended but its not fun to do them, to me they are work and not spending quality time on my game to relax and have fun.

In the end I hope these things are just there because there is no content and they are planning to fix them soon.
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#2 Nov 01 2010 at 12:17 AM Rating: Good
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1. I don't grind much.
2. Look at Facility and Recommend Skill, that's how you botch it. A great many people don't notice this, but this become absolutely clear at higher ranks.
3. I know the pain, but I plan ahead which camp to save at, then death port after going to a far away camp and continue running around.
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#3 Nov 01 2010 at 9:54 AM Rating: Decent
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Hi there,

1.) Keep some ash planks on you when you grind, believe it or not some people are nice and if you ask, someone might have carpentry leveled enough to fix your paddle. In general, the whole grind idea (no matter how you sugar coat it) is still a ******* grind.. endless slaughter for hopes of SP/EXP gain. Try to put some fun into it though. Instead of following what everyone else is doing, get a group and go explore for new camps, different mobs to kill, or form a static leve group as that is one great way to sp.

2.) Same as Khornette said, but also check to see if the recepie recommends primary or secondanry tool. Not sure where atm, but I do recall SE posting that using the wrong tool automatically drops your odds of a successful synthesis. (could be me making **** up though.. if someone knows where I saw that then woohoo!)

3.) While I agree that running to camps due to anima limitations and their sheer distance between one another is a pain, but what about only doing local leves in the city? Not sure about other crafts, but when I get carpentry leves in Gridania, I usually get 2-3 that involve the npc outside the archer's guild. Now maybe by doing just those I am not utilizing the full potential for carpenty skill gains however I also pick up a clothcraft and leathercraft leves for the same npc and I slowly level up those two classes as well. It goes slower but it's free, saves you anima and running time.

All in all I think you just need to find the things you enjoy most and stick to that for now while we all await the updates that will make gameplay better. I think if you try to force yourself to do things you don't enjoy you will dislike this game more and more and just get frustrated with it.

Peace!
#4 Nov 01 2010 at 10:10 AM Rating: Default
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Oh wait... now even the things that "work as intended" are bullcrap? Ouchy not much left why we should play eh? ;)

Well those points i found out myself as not really "funny" but i still do them everyday. I guess in 4-5 month no one is talking about them anymore because we moved to other contend. So i guess we just bear with it trying to like it.
#5 Nov 01 2010 at 10:33 AM Rating: Good
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1) This is highly annoying to me. Even if it was every 12 hours, or 24. I keep my crafting ranks at a point to where I can repair my own gear. I'm not sure how long I can keep that up though.

2) While annoying, this *does* make it fun because it still takes skill or knowledge to complete the synth. Ensuring you have a crafting facility if it calls for one, or the specific training.

3) While it would certainly be nice if you got a bit more of a reward for providing a services *and* being their delivery boy; this is just one of those things we'll have to deal with. Think of it as SE's way of forcing DoH people to venture outside the city limits. Personally, I don't take a leve if it's not on a path I'm already planning on taking.
#6 Nov 01 2010 at 10:34 AM Rating: Decent
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1) I can repair my own weapons. But yes, durability does need to be adjusted.

2) I've never experienced this. The only time I fail crafts are when they're at my rank or slightly above it. I'm sure it happens but I can't comment on why it might happen (the specific example you gave besides: but even in XI you still had a chance of breaking a lvl 1 synth when you were 100).

3) This is going to be addressed in the future, we know it's coming and rightfully so. For now, I just skip the ones that are out of my way. I do city leves and I do leves for camps that I'm going to fight at.
#7 Nov 01 2010 at 10:54 AM Rating: Decent
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daour wrote:
Good day to all.

Still playing the game and hope to stay here till it becomes equal or better than FFXI witch most of us loved.
Now to my topic, the things I really don’t understand what is the fun factor in them:

1- When you are rank 26 and your sword is rank 25 (Ash) and you have to repair it every 6 hours (depends on how much do you grind).

2- When you are 23 armor crafter and you fail 3 times on a raw on a rank 11 craft even when you are using crafting gear.

3- When you do localleve in LL and you have to run to 5 camps to hand them in (BB-Blood-Iron-Skull-Bladi) on foot.

Am not talking about not having an AH, or the game UI is crap or things like that, am talking about the things that are working as intended but its not fun to do them, to me they are work and not spending quality time on my game to relax and have fun.

In the end I hope these things are just there because there is no content and they are planning to fix them soon.


Actually, I think the durability thing is a bit annoying but... I also like it because it adds some use to crafting and makes the skills I worked so hard to level even more useful over time, and useful to a party as well! One should always carry mats to repair their weapon.

I don't agree with underwear durability though because it is pretty much impossible to repair in the field which is lame.

I don't have that problem with crafting. I very very rarely fail on synths - even synths that are above my level that require training that I don't have. I can't comment on your specific situation because I don't know what you failed etc - but there are a lot of things to be taken into consideration. As someone who managed to get off at least 2/5 maple syrup synths at R18 (it is a R25 leve craft) with the correct support, I attest that this system is starting to get a nice balance to it which allows you to generally make things above your level with difficulty and skill, while making it so you have to either mess up or be aiming for too much quality etc. to fail a lower level synth. There is an RNG goblin but it is generally pretty well behaved.

(at R22 alchemist I could make buffalo leather dyes with about a 50% fail rate and paralyzing powders with about 30% fail rate, even though they are above my level and both require training I don't have... thanks to some skill as well as preserve, tender touch and harmonize, a R22 tool in full repair, and decent and job appropriate crafting gear.)

yeah having to do runs is annoying but I just don't bother doing it unless I want to. I know it is inefficient of me but I don't do many leves because I don't feel like running around to do them. The game doesn't make you do them - you do them because you want the rewards... if you want the rewards you have to do the annoying things that entitle you to the rewards...



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#8 Nov 01 2010 at 12:37 PM Rating: Decent
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1: This is very annoying. I aswell find myself constantly burning my weapon down to dust in only a couple of hours depending on grind times. My solution is to carry 2-3(iron labrys, iron war axe, spiked bronze labrys)axes with me so i dont have to run back forth to town to keep repairing. I also keep my mats on me just incase a player near by may be able to repair for me.

2: I have experienced this a few times myself and i call it off as "**** happens" even though it ****** me the **** off.

3: No Comment lol

In the end i guess my hopes are the same as the OP's. But i still enjoy the game regardless...
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#9 Nov 01 2010 at 3:20 PM Rating: Decent
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daour wrote:
Good day to all.

Still playing the game and hope to stay here till it becomes equal or better than FFXI witch most of us loved.
Now to my topic, the things I really don’t understand what is the fun factor in them:

1- When you are rank 26 and your sword is rank 25 (Ash) and you have to repair it every 6 hours (depends on how much do you grind).

2- When you are 23 armor crafter and you fail 3 times on a raw on a rank 11 craft even when you are using crafting gear.

3- When you do localleve in LL and you have to run to 5 camps to hand them in (BB-Blood-Iron-Skull-Bladi) on foot.

Am not talking about not having an AH, or the game UI is crap or things like that, am talking about the things that are working as intended but its not fun to do them, to me they are work and not spending quality time on my game to relax and have fun.

In the end I hope these things are just there because there is no content and they are planning to fix them soon.


1) At rank 14 Thaum, I have to repair my weapon every 3 hours. That's fine, I just carry a stack of repair items with me and get on with the game (benefitting also from the small skill up for repairing every 3 hours).

2) I dont have any crafts as high as you but I rarely fail synths once I am above the level. I am sure I will get frustrated as I level up if this happens but I will complete a level 11 synth most times with a level 11 crafter.

3) I carefully manage anima, grouping with friends for leves and sharing the anima cost between each of us. I suppose solo, this would be annoying. As a longtime player of FFXI though, travel was always a pain in the backside.

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